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This is a bad and hardly structured review with a focus mainly on video playback. This is not a full review, and there's more things I want to test (and probably info I will post) for the future. It is also 4 AM, so don't expect any literary gymnastics.
So, I've had the (Euro) HDMI dock for a few weeks now (as well as the black leather sleeve, which is nice) but hadn't really gotten around to testing it. Primarily because I hadn't gotten around getting a mini-to-normal HDMI cable - yes the dock has a mini-HDMI output. The cable in question is commonly known as an HDMI "A<->C" cable with male ends on both sides.
Let's get the details you all know already out of the way. We're talking about the ECR-D980, more info here.
The dock itself comes packaged with nothing. No extra USB cable, no HDMI cable (or even converter plug), nothing. Keep in mind that these up the total cost of ownership for the dock quite a bit. I got the dock for about 29 euro, add about 20 euro total before you have a second SGT USB cable and a mini-to-normal HDMI cable. So that's 50 euro or about $70 US minimum cost at the time of writing, significantly more if you don't search a bit to find the cheapest deals. You don't strictly need the extra USB cable, but it becomes annoying in most setups if you don't have it - you'd be switching the cables location a lot.
The dock itself feels like a solid piece of equipment, much like the Tab itself. It features a 3.5mm audio out, mini-HDMI out, and 30-pin Samsung "PDMI" USB / power connector (the same connector on the Tab itself).
I started out testing at a friend two weeks ago, using his Sony soundsystem (several HDMI ins & outs) and his 42" high-end-4-years-ago Philips LCD. We were however completely unable to get it to work. Having no clue which component the problem was, we gave up after a bit. Note that his LCD doesn't do 1080p, but max 1080i (at time of purchase, even 1080i was rare). So I borrowed his cable, and today I tried it (with his A-C cable) in my home, on my Samsung 6-series 37" LCD that does do 1080p, without any special soundsystem. Note again that I used a converting cable, not an A-C converter plug. I know people have reported problems using those.
As soon as I plugged everything in, I immediately had display on my screen. We still don't know what the issue was at my friend's house, but keep in mind that it may be a requirement that the display device supports 1080p. The signal received by the TV was 1080p30. I think this is the maximum the device will do, as my TV does support both 1080p50 and 1080p60 as well (and I regularly use both those modes).
Immediate snags:
(1) First, the dock needs to be connected (via the USB cable) to a power, or HDMI will not work. I actually used an old HTC adapter instead of the Samsung one, that delivers 1a instead of 2a, and that worked fine. Connecting it to a computer USB port (0.5a) reportedly does not work, but I have not tested this myself (yet).
(2) Second, the Samsung USB cable you got with your Tab is really short, using an extender cable is almost certainly necessary for most situations.
(3) Third, the 3.5mm audio out does NOT work while HDMI is connected (reported by others, not tested myself)
(4) Last, the backlight will NEVER go off when connected over HDMI. Not even using the power button.
So, when you have it all connected, you will see one of two things: a really narrow output of your portrait screen, or a screen-filling output of your landscape screen. I advise everyone to put the device in landscape mode and enabling the orientation lock before connecting. Note that the HDMI dock is also a really handy standard for landscape mode!
When in the normal Android UI, you can clearly see the artifacts of upscaling. You'll see whatever happens on the Tab on the TV as well, scaled up (and not using a good resampler). The Android UI does NOT suddenly see a FullHD screen (as I expected, but some may be surprised).
However, some applications that go full-screen do see and use the FullHD resolution. I have not extensively tested this on many applications. For example, the YouTube app appears to see FullHD, but I can not be certain. The stock Samsung video player does see and use the FullHD resolution, as far as I can make out.
I have tested playback of the following videos, in the stock video player:
(1) Iron_Man_2-DivXPlusHD.mkv - 81mb, 2:30, CCV1 1920x800 23.98fps, AAC 48000Hz stereo, 4.4mbps
(2) Cowboys & Aliens - Trailer.mp4 - 174mb, 2:31, CCV1 1920x816 23.98fps, AAC 48000Hz stereo, 9.2mbps
(3) v.2009.s02e03.720p.hdtv.x264-ctu.mkv - 1118mb, 41:22, CCV1 1280x720 23.98fps, Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch, 3.6mbps
(4) the.mentalist.s03e12.720p.hdtv.x264-ctu.mkv - 1119mb, 41:48, CCV1 1280x720 23.98fps, Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch, 3.6mbps
These four videos all played fine, with audio and everything. V even had subtitles, and those worked well. However I must note that the button to disable subtitles is disabled while outputting to HDMI. Not sure what that is about. DTS is still on my to-test list, but I'll get around to that when we get the setup working on my friend's soundssystem, where I can also test whether or not the output is more than stereo or always downsampled to 2-channel.
The video output is pretty good, but not without buts.
(1) First, as stated before, the backlight on the Tab will not go off no matter what you do, and you will see one of the first frames of the video as a still on the Tab. You can however still use much of the videoplayer UI (which is suddenly slightly different: amongst other things options like brightness and scaling disappear), and that UI only appears on the Tab, NOT on the TV. Now if only I could control that UI, over Wi-Fi, with my SGS ... (might be possible through DLNA, btw, a nice test for the future)
(2) When you look closely at the image produced, you will see that the postprocessing is not quite up to par to the quality you get from CoreAVC or even ffmpeg on a laptop or HTPC or whatnot. The difference does really seem to be postprocessing though, not bad decoding or scaling.
(3) There is some shift in framespeed. Not traditional suttering you might see when the player cannot decode fast enough, though, the speed seems to be fine. I think this has to do with the fact that first the Tab has to scale 24fps to 30fps, which is probably done with some pulldown scheme, and then my TV has to scale that to 100hz, again with some pulldown scheme. I'm sure the videophiles amongst you will understand what I am talking about, even if the jargon is not correct. If you're not following, you are probably someone who wouldn't even notice it. Also note that I have all video-enhancing features on the TV itself turned off (as always). Enabling the 100hz motion interpolation mode makes the issue mostly disappear, but I really hate the "homevideo" effect you get when doing that. All in all, when watching a 40 minute show, you don't really notice it anymore after a few minutes, but if you're like me you know it's there and see it. If it were 1080p25 instead of 1080p30, the issue would probably not exist.
All in all, it does look good and works pretty well. Unfortunately, though most of these individual issues are small, together they are big enough to prevent this from being more than a casual playback device. It comes close, but not close enough to being a home-theater device. However, who knows maybe XBMC can be ported and we'll get past a number of these problems.
I won't make any claims as to whether the HDMI dock is worth the money or not. You know the price, and you have a bit of information here, and more in other reviews online. You have to decide for yourself it it's worth it. Hope this is helpful and/or interesting to someone.
For me the dock was totally worth it. The framespeed issue you describe is definitely there, but I do not notice that unless I am consciously looking for it. I have watched a lot of movies quite comfortably using the dock on Full HD TV.
And yes, if TV is not 1080p, for example just HD Ready and not Full HD, the video output is not HD at all. I think it's the same as Tab's screen: 1024x600.
"Connecting it to a computer USB port (0.5a) reportedly does not work, but I have not tested this myself (yet). "
USB from my computer (Kies drivers installed) works fine with the Dock. I have an HDMI capable computer monitor and this also works fine with the dock.
Thanks for the review!
For those who purchase movies through MediaHub, you will not be able to play back through HDMI dock to TV. http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ECR-D980BEGSTA-reviews
GeorgijSapkin said:
For me the dock was totally worth it. The framespeed issue you describe is definitely there, but I do not notice that unless I am consciously looking for it. I have watched a lot of movies quite comfortably using the dock on Full HD TV.
And yes, if TV is not 1080p, for example just HD Ready and not Full HD, the video output is not HD at all. I think it's the same as Tab's screen: 1024x600.
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Have you tried movies with DTS ? And on a surroundl soundsystem ? If so, can you share the details ?
Re: 1080p, you are saying even if the TV does not support 1080p, you do still get output ? Would mean that 1080i is not the problem on my friends' system, as we got no output at all.
(good info on this dock is hard to find )
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"Connecting it to a computer USB port (0.5a) reportedly does not work, but I have not tested this myself (yet). "
USB from my computer (Kies drivers installed) works fine with the Dock. I have an HDMI capable computer monitor and this also works fine with the dock.
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I meant using the computer as power source for HDMI. Do you get HDMI output when the USB cable is connected to a computer ? I read on some other reviews people did not get that to work.
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Thanks for the review!
For those who purchase movies through MediaHub, you will not be able to play back through HDMI dock to TV. http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ECR-D980BEGSTA-reviews
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That is really silly ...
Yes, dock connected to my computer via usb and connected to my monitor via hdmi. Outputs to the computer monitor just fine with this configuration.
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Dock but no audio
I have this dock but I get no audio what so ever... Have you had to do anything at all to enable it?
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I have this dock but I get no audio what so ever... Have you had to do anything at all to enable it?
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Worked out of the box for me, through HDMI. Haven't tried 3.5mm jack. Have heard that complaint before though.
Nice review its a bit dissapointing for me that they chose the mini HDMI standard as there is plenty of space to have included a normal size plug.
Maybe I'm just annoyed because I have HDMI cables laying around but now need to buy a mini HDMI cable
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Nice review its a bit dissapointing for me that they chose the mini HDMI standard as there is plenty of space to have included a normal size plug.
Maybe I'm just annoyed because I have HDMI cables laying around but now need to buy a mini HDMI cable
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100% agree
YouTube is great when you're docked. You can flip through videos and playlists on the tab while a YouTube clip continues to pay fullscreen on your TV - nice! It's a shame you can't play HD though.
I stripped the DRM off all the free movies that came with my Tab so I can play them directly through the dock. Inception looks great! You're right though, post-processing looks a little rough at times.
The dock is pretty overpriced for what you get but I'm happy with it all-in-all. If it came with a mini HDMI cable it would be perfect.
are you using a stock rom or custom rom? wondering if that will matter in regards to dock performance, i am on the rotohammer jme v4 and love how fast it is compared to the stock roms.
thanks for the notes/review!
Chainfire said:
Have you tried movies with DTS ? And on a surroundl soundsystem ? If so, can you share the details ?
Re: 1080p, you are saying even if the TV does not support 1080p, you do still get output ? Would mean that 1080i is not the problem on my friends' system, as we got no output at all.
(good info on this dock is hard to find )
I meant using the computer as power source for HDMI. Do you get HDMI output when the USB cable is connected to a computer ? I read on some other reviews people did not get that to work.
That is really silly ...
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My projector is 1024x768 and the dock work well with it, so 1080p is not necessary for it to work, and as a power source I use an external battery rated 500mh, so I guess a computer usb port should be able to power it.
My problem is that my projector doesn't have an audio out jack, and when the hdmi cable is connected all the audio port of the tab get disabled, INCLUDING bluetooth audio. This is why I now use this dock as an overpriced charging dock
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Just an FYI. $37 Shipped.
FYI, I got this 6 foot long Samsung sync/charge cable for only $8 (with shipping) that is a great companion for the Dock because the stock Samsung cables are way too short.
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FYI, I got this 6 foot long Samsung sync/charge cable for only $8 (with shipping) that is a great companion for the Dock because the stock Samsung cables are way too short.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300509955254
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Just what I needed !
does SGT screen needs to be turned on while docked, because while streaming / watching vids i dont want to hav twin/identical display
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erlz said:
does SGT screen needs to be turned on while docked, because while streaming / watching vids i dont want to hav twin/identical display
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As metioned in the first posting of this thread, unfortunately you cannot turn off the screen on the Tab when it's in the doc. When watching video's the first frame of the video stays visibile on the Tab the entire time. When your not watching videos the displays on the Tab and your TV are mirrored.
I buy the HDMI station dock and I find it no really good!
A HD photo is not so nice on the LCD, it ok buy when you see then at the real resolution with the camera, it's bad!
The only way that I can have good resolution is when i plug the tab into the PS3 like a hard drive annd the I see the same photos like they are and my videos arein real 720P or 1080P
I will returned it and wait for a new model or plug into my PS3
I just picked one of these up and was a bit disappointed with the video quality too. Videos looks great in HD on the Tab but jaggy and average quality on the TV - no better than a DVD really.
I bought one so I could connect it to the TV in my hotel room when I go on Holiday soon. Is it true that if you get no audio over HDMI, you can't use the line out at the same time? I was going to take some small speakers just in case the TV in the hotel didn't support audio (should be fine, think they're Samsung 32" LCD TVs).
I'm a bit surprised there's no settings you can tweak on the Tab other than PAL or NTSC to correct the overscan and advise on resolution and FPS.
Surprised about the quality, I loaded a webpage up in Xscope and could hardly read it on the TV, very poor. I genuinely thought it would be near HD. I could just take my 13.3" Laptop with HDMI out but that's 2.5KG.
At least I'll get lots of films on the Tab as there's no point putting HD ones on there if they don't look HD on the big screen. What an oxymoron that they look better on the Tab screen!
Anyone having an issue where the Cc is not turning on your TV when you cast content?
I set mine up the recommended way with the power adapter powering it instead of one of the USB ports on the TV. I have a year and a half of Panasonic plasma TV that supports HDMI 1.3a.
I was trying to show my wife how it worked in the demo but I instead got laughed at. Is there some other standard I should check to see if it's the TV or the Cc or a setting/config I missed?
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Anyone having an issue where the Cc is not turning on your TV when you cast content?
I set mine up the recommended way with the power adapter powering it instead of one of the USB ports on the TV. I have a year and a half of Panasonic plasma TV that supports HDMI 1.3a.
I was trying to show my wife how it worked in the demo but I instead got laughed at. Is there some other standard I should check to see if it's the TV or the Cc or a setting/config I missed?
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The ability to change the input is found on HDMI 1.4 and higher I believe
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Well that sucks if that's the case. I reread the instructions and it seems that I was wrong. The recommended method is to use the USB on the TV and not the charger. I'll give that a whirl and hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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The CEC function is not HDMI version specific (it was defined in 1.0, though there have been revisions since).
Do you have the CEC feature enabled on your television set? The name varies by manufacturer (list lifted from Wikipedia HDMI article, CEC section): Anynet+ (Samsung), Aquos Link (Sharp), BRAVIA Link and BRAVIA Sync (Sony), HDMI-CEC (Hitachi), E-link (AOC), Kuro Link (Pioneer), CE-Link and Regza Link (Toshiba), RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) (Onkyo), RuncoLink (Runco International), SimpLink (LG), T-Link (ITT), HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, VIERA Link (Panasonic), EasyLink (Philips), NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi).
Also, I'd guess you should power it using an external adapter unless the television provides power to ChromeCast even when on standby.
mikejr83, I have a brand new LG 47LA6200 and I have the same problem. Chromecast does not turn on the TV when I try to cast a moving or video. Simplink is on.on the LG TV and I have tested it that it works with my LG Blu-ray player.
My Chromecast does turn on the tv when I push content to it. Does it turn off when idle though? i haven't left it on and not-casting for long but if it doesn't turn off then that would really suck. At the very least it needs to kill the hdmi signal so my tv will auto-turn off. I'm testing this on the Sony Playstation TV. I will then test it on my sharp aquos in my living room to see if it works there.
Hey Chromecast Users,
is there any possibility to change the Aspect Ratio (and with it resolution of chromecast) from 16:9 to 4:3?
Got a 4:3 TFT Monitor and want to use it on, resolution is 1280x1024...
I also own a 16:9 monitor, but I want to use the 4:3 instead of the 16:9.
Greetz - Xorianator (from Germany)
Xorianator said:
Hey Chromecast Users,
is there any possibility to change the Aspect Ratio (and with it resolution of chromecast) from 16:9 to 4:3?
Got a 4:3 TFT Monitor and want to use it on, resolution is 1280x1024...
I also own a 16:9 monitor, but I want to use the 4:3 instead of the 16:9.
Greetz - Xorianator (from Germany)
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As far as I know, Chromecast only like 16:9 resolutions.
Can you change your monitor settings to display 1280x720 (720p) letterboxed?
Otherwise you would need some sort of scaler, and that's going to cost more than the Chromecast itself.
No i did not find any method to do this on my TFT LCD
I also know those boxes... But a 24 inch monitor with HDMI is much cheeper
No possibilities with rooted Cast?
Xorianator said:
No i did not find any method to do this on my TFT LCD
I also know those boxes... But a 24 inch monitor with HDMI is much cheeper
No possibilities with rooted Cast?
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How are you even plugging the CCast into an SD monitor?
usually the adapter used to connect to SD is what does the conversion for you...
And those converters are usually as expensive as a new monitor is.
I changed the signal from HDMI to VGA with this one (cant post because new member, just look on amazon for "HDMI Female to VGA"... Looks similiar to an USB Stick
But it does not convert any signal to any aspect ratio.
The monitor is a "Fujitsu L7ZA", i got this one just because a friend want to dump it, so i said i would take it before he put it into trash.... And then i bought the Chromecast, because i thought it might would be funny, but if it does not work with the 4:3 its bad :/
Maybe Google brings an update? I would appreciate!
I did some digging and it seems your Fujitsu L7ZA may be same/related to ScenicView A17-2 based on this (far from authoritative). If that's correct, I looked up the manual and unfortunately there seems to be no vertical size (usually V-SIZ) control.
Don't get me wrong, I'm like you - one of my Chromecasts is connected to a SD TV through HDMI-VGA converter and downscaler, but I'm currently letting the downscaler (and my TiVo) do the aspect ratio conversion as my TV model doesn't have the "easy" vertical compression option. But doubtful that Google will update for 4:3 users like us as very few non-16:9 televisions have HDMI input, and Chromecast isn't aimed at usage on computer monitors (or HDMI->VGA conversion, for that matter).
What you really need is a Scan Converter similar to what we use when we want to put an old VGA computer onto a Standard Def screen.
And by the time you bought that you could get a good 24" HDMI monitor instead.
I just bought Mom (for Mother's Day) an old Dell 24" for $149 (Tiger Direct) although it doesn't have speakers built in it does have a connector to attach speakers to that will pass the HDMI Audio.
A decent scan converter can go for $200.
It's really the best option because Google will never make a setting for the CCast that supports SD...
Makes no sense for an HDMI Dongle...
Hi,
I noticed that when using Screen Mirroring from my Tab S2 to any of my Samsung TVs, the picture on the TV is about 3/4 the size. However, when using any of my phones (Galaxy S5, S6 Edge), it shows up fullscreen on the TV and takes up the entire TV screen size.
Does anyone know how to set the Tab S2 to do fullscreen when using Screen Mirroring, similar to the Samsung Galaxy phones? Thanks!
Sounds like your problem is a matter of aspect ratio. Your TV is 16:9 ratio, as is your S5 & S6 afaik. The Tab S2 is 4:3. Its kind of like trying to fit a square peg into a rectangular hole.
Thanks for your reply. Since I can't find out how to adjust the Tab S2 to 16:9, I adjusted my TV to 4:3, but still have the same problem. Lookso like this is a Samsung design flaw? That sucks, I was hoping to screen mirroring and enjoy movies on the TV from the tablet
Not a design flaw the way you mean it. Your S2 is physically a different shape then your TV (L x W pixel ratio). Specifically, the screen on the S2 is a shorter rectangle. Thus, casting the screen to your TV means it won't use the whole TV screen. Setting the TV to 4:3 would be redundant. There might be a way to make the TV stretch the image to 16:9 but it would look stretched, not right. Now, there might be a way to play a 16:9 video (1920/1080p) on your S2 (which on your S2 would show top and bottom black bars) and cast that to your TV in a way that uses the whole TV screen correctly, but I can't instruct how yet. Still playing with mine.
Glad to know that screen mirroring works... may i ask which versions are you guys using... 9.7 inch or 8 inch... and what OS version please? Modified OS?
Thanks.
The reason i asked and glad to know that Mirroring works on our Tab S2 is... i read from one of the review comments from GSM Arena that it does not work.
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I have the same problem. I was thinking the aspect ratio might be the problem as well. However, when you DL a video or movie onto your tablet and play it, it uses the full screen, no problem.
This is not an aspect ratio problem
I have the same problem. When I set a streamed video on my S2 to full screen, the mirrored image on the TV has a black band all around it--top, bottom and both sides-- and is only about 3/4 of the TV screen size. The menu items on the TV that allow you to zoom or stretch an image are all disabled when the TV is in mirror mode. I can't find any settings on the S2 that allow you to modify the image that is being mirrored to the TV.
At the same time, a Galaxy phone can mirror a full-sized streamed video to the TV with no problem.
This is frustrating and potentially bad for the TV (elsewhere, the manual warns not to watch TV in 4:3 mode because the black stripes will "burn in").
Does anyone have a suggestion for how to address this?
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I have the same problem. When I set a streamed video on my S2 to full screen, the mirrored image on the TV has a black band all around it--top, bottom and both sides-- and is only about 3/4 of the TV screen size. The menu items on the TV that allow you to zoom or stretch an image are all disabled when the TV is in mirror mode. I can't find any settings on the S2 that allow you to modify the image that is being mirrored to the TV.
At the same time, a Galaxy phone can mirror a full-sized streamed video to the TV with no problem.
This is frustrating and potentially bad for the TV (elsewhere, the manual warns not to watch TV in 4:3 mode because the black stripes will "burn in").
Does anyone have a suggestion for how to address this?
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Use a different device to screen mirror. As stated before, since the tab s2 is in 4:3 ratio, there is no way to force 16:9 via screen mirroring.
If you have the content on your device(not streaming), then your best bet is to use a DLNA app and send it that way.
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Use a different device to screen mirror. As stated before, since the tab s2 is in 4:3 ratio, there is no way to force 16:9 via screen mirroring.
If you have the content on your device(not streaming), then your best bet is to use a DLNA app and send it that way.
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I understand that the aspect ratio is different. I don't expect the image to reach out to all the edges. That is not the issue.
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I understand that the aspect ratio is different. I don't expect the image to reach out to all the edges. That is not the issue.
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What is the issue then?
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Give "SecondScreen" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farmerbb.secondscreen.free a try. It's a bit flaky though.
But, when it works, it does work.
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Give "SecondScreen" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farmerbb.secondscreen.free a try. It's a bit flaky though.
But, when it works, it does work.
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Worked perfectly thanks
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Changing the screen orientation on your device to landscape may help.
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What is the issue then?
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From what i can read, he's sayign that he has black borders all four sides.
Surely even "aspect ratio" displaying should fill the image to top and bottom and let the sides go to the borders.
A wide screen TV would show a 4:3 image as top to bottom full with black bars left and right where the 4:3 didn't fit the 16:10
I'll take a guess and say it's a setting on his TV not right - maybe a zoom or auto-aspect not set, "wide", "full", etc.. (My Sony 55" used to do it with 4:3 old-style TV from video until i found the expansion setting.
Can i ask...
What device can you recommend for a non-Smart TV (2008 Sony 55") for receiving from the Galaxy S2 tablet?
I bought a "Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter" becasue i was told it;d work... but it doesn't.
There's nothing on the Galaxy Tab S2 to "cast" or "connect to" or whatever... it just doesn't see the MWDA.
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What device can you recommend for a non-Smart TV (2008 Sony 55") for receiving from the Galaxy S2 tablet?
I bought a "Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter" becasue i was told it;d work... but it doesn't.
There's nothing on the Galaxy Tab S2 to "cast" or "connect to" or whatever... it just doesn't see the MWDA.
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Chromecast + Google home app (screen mirror mode) does a nice job for me
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Thanks for that - I was looking at the chromecast. £30 is a bit high though...
I found out why the microshaft one won;t work - it needs a firmware update before the Samsung Galaxy will "cast" to it.
BUT you need to be able to connect to it to do the firmware! - so i can't connect until i update the fW and I can't update the FW until i connect to it.
F**k Microsoft!!
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Thanks for that - I was looking at the chromecast. £30 is a bit high though...
I found out why the microshaft one won;t work - it needs a firmware update before the Samsung Galaxy will "cast" to it.
BUT you need to be able to connect to it to do the firmware! - so i can't connect until i update the fW and I can't update the FW until i connect to it.
F**k Microsoft!!
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You don't have a laptop or desktop running Windows that you can use to cast to it? I doesn't have to be the tablet to update the firmware.
Laptop, yes, but it's win 7 and 2012 date, no wifi direct (the intel drivers won;t install)
I;d need to buy a new lappy to get this updated! *grin* typical microshaft!
Out of interest:
What about casting/mirroring to an amazon firetv stick (it's cheaper than the chromecast and has more useful features)?
Here I want to put some screenshots from two YouTube videos about Samsung Dex which shows unlocked (not greyed out) option for WQHD 2560x1440p resolution which gives desired resolution on monitor. Unfortunately, in both videos they using Samsung monitors. This arise question that WQHD resolution is option only for Samsung monitor. I dont know anibody that post screenshot with enabled WQHD resolution on monitors from other vendors.
Is there any solution to get WQHD on other displays which support that resolution or we can say that this question is obsolete and that there is no solution for that problem? On developer.samsung page I saw some runtime options for modifying Dex app including to change resolution to WQHD.
I tested Dex Pad with original HDMI to HDMI cable on Note 8 and get qreyed out option for WQHD (on Sony 55XE8505 4K TV which have no support for MHL). In screen mirroring I get 4k 4096x2160 at 60hz.
Links:
https://youtu.be/umvnRlj9yN8
https://youtu.be/S63wn5nTa5E
I've been getting x1440 in Dexmode on a non-Sam monitor using a non-Sam DeX hookup. If that matters to your test.
Thanks. What is the TV model and non-Sam Dex hookup, and what is the settings on TV? I dont understand where is the problem. Many people reported same problem.
Modified the DEX environment a bit in my custom ROM (swapped 2560x1440 with 3440x1440) and can confirm that works with official dock on the LG 34UC98-W. (So I assume 2560x1440 would)
Only thing not working is HDR and 10-bit color, but I think thats more of a problem with the DEX hardware and how its outputting
Could you let us know how you modified the ROM to enable higher Dex resolutions?
mwittie said:
Could you let us know how you modified the ROM to enable higher Dex resolutions?
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Bump!
aleks3008 said:
Here I want to put some screenshots from two YouTube videos about Samsung Dex which shows unlocked (not greyed out) option for WQHD 2560x1440p resolution which gives desired resolution on monitor. Unfortunately, in both videos they using Samsung monitors. This arise question that WQHD resolution is option only for Samsung monitor. I dont know anibody that post screenshot with enabled WQHD resolution on monitors from other vendors.
Is there any solution to get WQHD on other displays which support that resolution or we can say that this question is obsolete and that there is no solution for that problem? On developer.samsung page I saw some runtime options for modifying Dex app including to change resolution to WQHD.
I tested Dex Pad with original HDMI to HDMI cable on Note 8 and get qreyed out option for WQHD (on Sony 55XE8505 4K TV which have no support for MHL). In screen mirroring I get 4k 4096x2160 at 60hz.
Links:
https://youtu.be/umvnRlj9yN8
https://youtu.be/S63wn5nTa5E
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mwittie said:
Could you let us know how you modified the ROM to enable higher Dex resolutions?
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for mine, just tried with the Android Pie beta and can use Dex station mode very well on my Note8. U may wanna try Pie Beta as well
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TrungHTC said:
for mine, just tried with the Android Pie beta and can use Dex station mode very well on my Note8. U may wanna try Pie Beta as well
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The question is NOT whether you can you DeX mode on pie but how to enable greater resolution WQHD and mods were made to get there.
server5 said:
The question is NOT whether you can you DeX mode on pie but how to enable greater resolution WQHD and mods were made to get there.
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Yes, u can choose higher solution from Beta rom settings (Dex mode settings) as i experienced from my device last night
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TrungHTC said:
Yes, u can choose higher solution from Beta rom settings (Dex mode settings) as i experienced from my device last night
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Okay thanks. Screen grab?
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Okay thanks. Screen grab?
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FYR....
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gLTyRyzX61mxaJPTqm8xq5XrK4KeHqUA/view?usp=sharing
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FYR....
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gLTyRyzX61mxaJPTqm8xq5XrK4KeHqUA/view?usp=sharing
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Thanks!! But at the max resolution how does the text look on the lapdock? Sadly, my eyes are not as good as they used to be....
Thanks again for posting! [emoji106]
TrungHTC, can you post the screenshot with checked WQHD option, not FHD. The WQHD option on your screenshot is greyedout which mean that can't be enabled. This is my situation, and still no solution with official Note 8 firmware.
I have an older Samsung 4k monitor, not the QLED one. Using International Exynos version of Note 8. I Just tried 3 different adapters.
AmazonBasics Type-C to HDMI adapter, it only goes upto 1080p, 2560x1440 is greyed out. I also get message that I should use genuine Samsung adapter or somethin.
LC-dolica USB C hub. Without power going to it, it does not work, not even a USB drive. But when I gave it power, it let me pick 2560x1440! I returned it though since I'm not too keen about having it plugged into the power.. plus the port wont fit in my Note 8 case.
Samsung Type-C to HDMI adapter. 2560x1440 option is greyed out again! However I dont see any "should use genuine Samsung adapter" message. But still.. no 2k option, I might as well just get the cheaper AmazonBasics adapter.
Edit*: I wonder if this cable will work? Samsung DeX Cable USB Type-C to HDMI. Anyone want to try it out?
If there's some file modification we can do on phone that lets us pick 2k option, I'm willing to root it too.
aleks3008 said:
Here I want to put some screenshots from two YouTube videos about Samsung Dex which shows unlocked (not greyed out) option for WQHD 2560x1440p resolution which gives desired resolution on monitor. Unfortunately, in both videos they using Samsung monitors. This arise question that WQHD resolution is option only for Samsung monitor. I dont know anibody that post screenshot with enabled WQHD resolution on monitors from other vendors.
Is there any solution to get WQHD on other displays which support that resolution or we can say that this question is obsolete and that there is no solution for that problem? On developer.samsung page I saw some runtime options for modifying Dex app including to change resolution to WQHD.
I tested Dex Pad with original HDMI to HDMI cable on Note 8 and get qreyed out option for WQHD (on Sony 55XE8505 4K TV which have no support for MHL). In screen mirroring I get 4k 4096x2160 at 60hz.
Links:
https://youtu.be/umvnRlj9yN8
https://youtu.be/S63wn5nTa5E
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I read reports from others being able to use something else than a DeX pad. I was not able to get that resolution with other than the DeX pad. I'm using a viewsonic right now. I can use HDMI, Displayport and Mini display port to achieve the resolution with a macbook pro. I can use a USB-C to HDMI and a USB-C to DP/mini DP no problem. The same cables, on the Note 9 only get the FHD option. I know the cables and monitor are capable since they were in use seconds before, and that the Note 9 is also capable, since I am using it in WQHD right now. So the only explanation I can see, if Samsung test for someting when plugged in, and so far only the DeX pad met those requirements. I can't even change the charge on the DeX pad. I have a multi charger on my desk, I could use a thunderbolt 3 cable to power it. It supports QC 3.0, and 9v to 5v. But not Adaptive Fast Charge that uses the same voltage/amp. Weird.
Anyhow, it's the only config that worked for me. I would like to know if there's anything more portable that support higher resolution for when I travel. Otherwise, no big deal. I have been using the HP LapDock at FHD when I travel, and since the screen is only 11", FHD does not look bad.
My 2 cents.
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Thanks guys
I am trying Note 8 (Pie of September) with Dell D6000 USB-C Dock
1) I confirm WQHD 1440p is greyd out for the External Monitor when i go to DEX Settings
2) I also confirm the D6000 Dock works with HP Laptop and same screen and cables at 1440p, so just not the right dock
3) I try now the same setup with the older DEX Station and will report later... I love that Ethernet on the DEX Station