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[Q] Best Galaxy Ace Overclock Frequancy... And something else thanks

Hey guys
I know their probably another thread out there with this in it but... Yeah. But go ahead troll me lol, im still a bit of a noob.:silly:
Anyways, i have a Galaxy Ace s5830. I have Beats with smooth sense ROM. I had it upto 883MHz Yesterday but after i turned it off then back on ROM Toolbox reverted it to 806MHZ. 883MHz seemed a lot faster even though some people get theirs close to 1GHZ
My phone afterwards rebooting had issues such as the phone becoming un-responsive when i was even doing nothing (maybe the overclock to 883MHz had some short term effect?) But the phone seemed fine after safely turning it off then back on several times. Still works perfectly i got scared when it started to become un-responsive. But it works well now i have also used pimp my ROM, and the scripts work like a charm. Especially the call quality one (it uses bravia engine or something?). But with pimp my ROM wi-fi and network tweaks it completely broke wi-fi saying wi-fi connecting... Then saying under the network name 'Error'. Dam it took so long to get the IP address then said error like i said lol
At the frequency 883MHZ the phone seemed stable and faster than ever before, i did change it in small increments
So just wondering, what is the safe and most reliable frequencies to set it at? I currently use 225Min and 806 Max. With the userspace governer.
I know the terms of ' Safe ' and overclock don't mix (sorta like water and my dads S2 :crying: ).
Im also considering buying a 2450MAH battery from ebay for about 5.99 AUD. Any suggestions on should it be okay and better? But i mainly would like to knwo about the overclcoking lol.
So yeah, basically what is a good frequency to set it at? Is 883MHZ okay? Am i going to fry it out or completely brick or damage the phone or cpu if i set it at 883MHZ? Would love to buy a new phone but i need to save im only 14
So yeah please help me and you could help others too. Please be welcomed to troll me
I plan on having this phone another 3-4 Months before i consider buying the S2 or Galaxy note when their cheap (like really cheap)...
Like i said please help, and feel welcomed to troll me when you do help :highfive:
Man i feel like a Rebel when i overclock

That battery is a fake and has been confirmed as such. If you want a higher cap. battery get a 1500mAh or 1600mAh. I don't like messing with the clocking, good luck to you.

Thanks
Narwhal73 said:
That battery is a fake and has been confirmed as such. If you want a higher cap. battery get a 1500mAh or 1600mAh. I don't like messing with the clocking, good luck to you.
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Thank you for informing me that the battery is a fake ... But the seller has like 96%/100% seller rate or something?
Thanks for all your help, i hited like
Sorry for my 'Noobiness'.
What battery do you reccomend? or should i consider getting a AA battery to USB power charger?

i'm pretty comfortable with 825 or 844 mhz

It's pretty good with 614 MHz lol
Sent from my GT-S5830 using Tapatalk 2

Running smooth even on 614 Mhz.
Moderate usage.

King Android said:
Thank you for informing me that the battery is a fake ... But the seller has like 96%/100% seller rate or something?
Thanks for all your help, i hited like
Sorry for my 'Noobiness'.
What battery do you reccomend? or should i consider getting a AA battery to USB power charger?
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Right now I am just using the stock one. I personally wouldn't change my battery to anything other than stock, but people have reported that 1500mAh or 1600mAh work well. I wouldn't use anything that has a higher capacity than that though. Also, if it's very inexpensive it's probably not real.

Clocking actually goes on the rom. I've seen people having OC over 1gHz & still stable with the mad kernel but I gave up clocking as I didn't see much of a difference & also underclocking started giving me FCs on some heavy apps while it was all fair in the unclocked state. And again, there's no such thing as a best frequency. You find your own values. What works well for him might mess up your phone rebooting all by itself. Stock batteries are always fine & they also keep you under warranty. Anyone ever wondered why the phone manufacturers didn't implement clocking as a part of it ? Stability is the word. I've seen here, I've seen there. East or west, stock is the best ! Try keeping as close to stock as possible, just to have that extra touch of safety & stability
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Hello all.
I was reading this thread and became interested in overclocking. In my case my device is:
Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-S5830L (labeled as GT-S5830 by CyanogenMod)
CyanogenMod-7.2.0-cooper stable (Android version 2.3.7)
Kernel 2.6.35.7-perf-CL882825 ([email protected] #21)
I was checking in CM settings -> Performance -> CPU settings that I could adjust min and max clockspeed, but in max frequency the maximum one is the same processor's speed, 800 MHz. So my kernel doesn't support overclocking.
After a search in the forums I found there are plenty of custom kernels for this legacy device. But I'm relatively new to the kernel world, so I wanted to ask you for advise. What custom kernel could I try for my device for overclocking? Or King Android, what custom kernel are you using?
It'd the first time I do the overclocking stuff, I'd like to try it to see if some higher quality mp4 videos (which are run by MX Player only in software acceleration) can run better, as well as some games and emulators.
I'm also kind of a noob as you can see. If you want to troll/scold me...
Thank you all.

ctcx said:
Hello all.
I was reading this thread and [...]
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Hi you can try FireKernel or BlackHawk kernel. Use the search function to find them easily. Both supports Overclocking and are made for CM7. [MAKE SURE THEY SUPPORT YOUR S5830L]
At the moment I'm with Democracy ROM which is based on unofficial CM7 and I don't really feel the need of overclocking. It is all smooth with firekernel at
Min 245
Max 806
Governor smartassv2
Sent from my... oh wait, who cares?

I did my search.
Maybe I forgot to mention I haven't installed a custom kernel before... Does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I already mentioned what CM7 I have installed. It's the "official" stable one.
Would OCing help to improve videos and games performance? i.e, faster, no lag...

You can set it to whatever your phone can handle. Mine can't go past 844Mhz otherwise apps start force closing and such. If your phone is completely stable at 883Mhz then you're good.
As for the battery, no. It's a fake. Buy a 1500mAh like I did. Works like a charm and it brought 3. Lasts a little longer and it's really amazing. Had it for a while now. Still have one in the pack, only been using 2 when I don't get to charge my phone. Really handy.
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ctcx said:
I did my search.
Maybe I forgot to mention I haven't installed a custom kernel before... Does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I already mentioned what CM7 I have installed. It's the "official" stable one.
Would OCing help to improve videos and games performance? i.e, faster, no lag...
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OCing helps the phone over all. But remember, without much free ram, OC won't really change much. You need a balance of ram and CPU. Like me, I use swap and OC to 844Mhz. Even if it's a low OC, it's still better than nothing.

1. @SuperAce609: I have 104 Mb free RAM out of 278 Mb total RAM. Mine is Galaxy Ace S5830L with CM 7.2. Would OC work for me? Up to what frequency?
And how can you have 600 Mb of RAM? Is your device really an Ace?
2. There's still a doubt I haven't been able to find out myself: does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I was suggested FireKernel or BlackHawk ones...

Any help?

ctcx said:
1. @SuperAce609: I have 104 Mb free RAM out of 278 Mb total RAM. Mine is Galaxy Ace S5830L...
And how can you have 600 Mb of RAM...
2. There's still a doubt I haven't been able to find out myself: does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I was suggested FireKernel or BlackHawk ones...
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1.- Every Ace is diferent..some Ace's can go up to 960 Mhz while other just 844 Mhz, the thing is: try it yourself overclocking in small jumps. Swap is a small amount of memory of your SD card, that Android use it like if where RAM, but decreases SD card life...
2.- Some Kernel came Built in on Some particullary ROM's but generally cames on a CWM Flashable zip; FireKernel & BlackHawk are specially for CM7; In my opinion FireKernel is the best... And there are others like Battery Extender Kernel or NimsKernel but these Kernel are only for Stock ROM's...
I hope you find useful my info...

Thank you, Blake2893.
Then there's just 2 doubts left, if you don't mind.
There's a fair number of custom CM7.2 roms with FireKernel in the developer forum. Is there one you or someone else could say is the best in terms of stability and least number of bugs? Or is that something I should test myself in the S5830L?
The Ace S5830/S5830L has 278 Mb total RAM by default. If I understand well, you're implying I could modify SWAP partition in order to increase RAM and, probably if lucky, with this make OC work better. How can I do that? Do I also need a custom kernel/rom for that?

The best stable Roms so far are the stock GingerBread based ones... but if you aks me about CM7 there a few like Apocalypse rom(ICS styled ROM) with the FireKernel that suports swap I think...
and for Swap you only need a Kernel with Swap enabled and a SWAP Partition on your Sd card...

lets see im fine and stable with 979 mhz without reboot for 9 hours
overclock is depend on your hardware

best over clock freq.
King Android said:
Hey guys
I know their probably another thread out there with this in it but... Yeah. But go ahead troll me lol, im still a bit of a noob.:silly:
Anyways, i have a Galaxy Ace s5830. I have Beats with smooth sense ROM. I had it upto 883MHz Yesterday but after i turned it off then back on ROM Toolbox reverted it to 806MHZ. 883MHz seemed a lot faster even though some people get theirs close to 1GHZ
My phone afterwards rebooting had issues such as the phone becoming un-responsive when i was even doing nothing (maybe the overclock to 883MHz had some short term effect?) But the phone seemed fine after safely turning it off then back on several times. Still works perfectly i got scared when it started to become un-responsive. But it works well now i have also used pimp my ROM, and the scripts work like a charm. Especially the call quality one (it uses bravia engine or something?). But with pimp my ROM wi-fi and network tweaks it completely broke wi-fi saying wi-fi connecting... Then saying under the network name 'Error'. Dam it took so long to get the IP address then said error like i said lol
At the frequency 883MHZ the phone seemed stable and faster than ever before, i did change it in small increments
So just wondering, what is the safe and most reliable frequencies to set it at? I currently use 225Min and 806 Max. With the userspace governer.
I know the terms of ' Safe ' and overclock don't mix (sorta like water and my dads S2 :crying: ).
Im also considering buying a 2450MAH battery from ebay for about 5.99 AUD. Any suggestions on should it be okay and better? But i mainly would like to knwo about the overclcoking lol.
So yeah, basically what is a good frequency to set it at? Is 883MHZ okay? Am i going to fry it out or completely brick or damage the phone or cpu if i set it at 883MHZ? Would love to buy a new phone but i need to save im only 14
So yeah please help me and you could help others too. Please be welcomed to troll me
I plan on having this phone another 3-4 Months before i consider buying the S2 or Galaxy note when their cheap (like really cheap)...
Like i said please help, and feel welcomed to troll me when you do help :highfive:
Man i feel like a Rebel when i overclock
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The best and most stable overclock freq. is actually 906mhz-864mhz. It works like a charm mate! Try it.

Cyb3rVect0r said:
The best and most stable overclock freq. is actually 906mhz-864mhz. It works like a charm mate! Try it.
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Using CPU high frequencies is not recommended, your device's life will be reduced considerably

Xperia z Antutu varying benchmark scores

Antutu benchmarks score gets reduced after installing the latest update from Sony.
i have run the benchmark soon after unboxing the device.. and it gave me a score of 20707..
and there was an update from Sony which after installing for some reason locks the processor speed when its heated up.. when i run the benchmarks now it gives me a score of 16080 with a processor speed of 1.2 Ghz while the processors actual speed is 1.5 Ghz.
even i did a factory reset and tried running the benchmarks.. but still the same results in 16k-17 window..
is any one else facing this issue after installing the update

Isn't it affected by the numbers if apps you have on your phone? And it's always better to do a restart and run the bench mark right after before running any other apps.
And btw, those numbers means nothing. Don't get hooked onto those apps, it doesn't mean your phone is any slower than others.
Sent from my C6603 using xda app-developers app

LitoNi said:
Isn't it affected by the numbers if apps you have on your phone? And it's always better to do a restart and run the bench mark right after before running any other apps.
And btw, those numbers means nothing. Don't get hooked onto those apps, it doesn't mean your phone is any slower than others.
Sent from my C6603 using xda app-developers app
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Yes, those are just numbers .. but still i was puzzled if it was happening after installing the update.... otherwise the phone is fine. except for the known heating problem :cyclops:

LitoNi said:
Isn't it affected by the numbers if apps you have on your phone? And it's always better to do a restart and run the bench mark right after before running any other apps.
And btw, those numbers means nothing. Don't get hooked onto those apps, it doesn't mean your phone is any slower than others.
Sent from my C6603 using xda app-developers app
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But the fact that Antutu is showing he has a 1.2 Ghz processor, for me is a reason to worry. Even if the numbers are lower, it should show 1.5Ghz.
So, maybe there is some overheating problem on his phone.

Antutu has recently been updated - refer the comments on the Play Store. Seems other people with different phones getting high scores before the update and then lower scores post update.
I think this is the solution to the problem...... Mind you I just ran Antutu and got 20656

mubeen.asim said:
Antutu benchmarks score gets reduced after installing the latest update from Sony.
i have run the benchmark soon after unboxing the device.. and it gave me a score of 20707..
and there was an update from Sony which after installing for some reason locks the processor speed when its heated up.. when i run the benchmarks now it gives me a score of 16080 with a processor speed of 1.2 Ghz while the processors actual speed is 1.5 Ghz.
even i did a factory reset and tried running the benchmarks.. but still the same results in 16k-17 window..
is any one else facing this issue after installing the update
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When the XZ heats up, the processor throttles down. That's why it shows you the 1.2Ghz.

mubeen.asim said:
Antutu benchmarks score gets reduced after installing the latest update from Sony.
i have run the benchmark soon after unboxing the device.. and it gave me a score of 20707..
and there was an update from Sony which after installing for some reason locks the processor speed when its heated up.. when i run the benchmarks now it gives me a score of 16080 with a processor speed of 1.2 Ghz while the processors actual speed is 1.5 Ghz.
even i did a factory reset and tried running the benchmarks.. but still the same results in 16k-17 window..
is any one else facing this issue after installing the update
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AnTuTu is kinda generalization of hardware accessibility and performance
So i think it almost depend on Kernel, after that update all kernels updated to Feb. kernel (a kernel with different date)
and Sony said will update xperia Z to 4.2.2 with 3.6 (*nix) kernel
and it can increase performance and higher AnTuTu benchmark
:good:

mubeen.asim said:
Antutu benchmarks score gets reduced after installing the latest update from Sony.
i have run the benchmark soon after unboxing the device.. and it gave me a score of 20707..
and there was an update from Sony which after installing for some reason locks the processor speed when its heated up.. when i run the benchmarks now it gives me a score of 16080 with a processor speed of 1.2 Ghz while the processors actual speed is 1.5 Ghz.
even i did a factory reset and tried running the benchmarks.. but still the same results in 16k-17 window..
is any one else facing this issue after installing the update
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As far as I am concerned, I think these are all crap in reality. Because you can run these benchmarks over and over again and keep getting different results, even after disabling things like autosync etc.
In theory the phone should run benchmarks faster when it is colder, but when I ran these tests they were much worse.
My phone didn't change much after updates for bench mark scores.
Phones do have a thermo throttling of the CPU to stay within the SAFE temperature ranges, so the 1.2GHz will most likely have something to do with this.

danw_oz said:
As far as I am concerned, I think these are all crap in reality. Because you can run these benchmarks over and over again and keep getting different results, even after disabling things like autosync etc.
In theory the phone should run benchmarks faster when it is colder, but when I ran these tests they were much worse.
My phone didn't change much after updates for bench mark scores.
Phones do have a thermo throttling of the CPU to stay within the SAFE temperature ranges, so the 1.2GHz will most likely have something to do with this.
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Yes, indeed the benchmark programs depend on many factors.. i had factory restored the Rom from Sony Pc companion, and again the first time i run, it shows me 20k number.. and then it gradually decreases when i run again. i wonder if its the same with other phones which have the same processor.

mubeen.asim said:
Yes, indeed the benchmark programs depend on many factors.. i had factory restored the Rom from Sony Pc companion, and again the first time i run, it shows me 20k number.. and then it gradually decreases when i run again. i wonder if its the same with other phones which have the same processor.
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Well ran it just after you mentioned this got 18000, next run 20170 and nothing really can have changed between those runs, and that is a significant difference

danw_oz said:
Well ran it just after you mentioned this got 18000, next run 20170 and nothing really can have changed between those runs, and that is a significant difference
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does it show the same processor speed in two runs?

so your e-p***s just got smaller after update ?

Jealous cuz u don't have one. !
Sent from my C6602 using xda app-developers app

mubeen.asim said:
does it show the same processor speed in two runs?
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Surely did, phone is always really fast, so I do not believe these benchmarks. Maybe I was running on just 3 cylinders (cores)

In other words, don't trust benchmarks

harfot said:
In other words, don't trust benchmarks
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partly true.. but it the difference is way too much with others scores then points to a problem in the device...

mubeen.asim said:
partly true.. but it the difference is way too much with others scores then points to a problem in the device...
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Don't think so, every device I have used has done the same thing, find it impossible to believe that it is a problem device. The problem is most likely to do with the way that a phone operates, if the memory does a garbage collection event while you are doing a test, is going to throw a ridiculous result
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harfot said:
In other words, don't trust benchmarks
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Pretty much.

danw_oz said:
Don't think so, every device I have used has done the same thing, find it impossible to believe that it is a problem device. The problem is most likely to do with the way that a phone operates, if the memory does a garbage collection event while you are doing a test, is going to throw a ridiculous result
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Pretty much.
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:good:

Custom roms, or stock rom modification?

Hi,
im on stock rom, with bootloader unlocked and root installed. my deivce is still very hot even after system configurations, so id like some advice on how to tweak the kernel or improve performance, make it not overheat, install custom roms or delete system apps and so on.
Ive tried uninstaller system applications or bloatware, tweaking the kernel with CPU Tuner, installing and configuring the L Speed app, who i was someone had awesome resaults with here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/themes-apps/one-to-tweak-apps-l-speed-t3350288
i only get around 2 hrs of screen on time with my deice, and a lot of heat, i saw it over 80 degrees yesterday...
id like some good optimization and battery life for the device, as im not able to do so now...
thanks in advanced

xswish said:
Hi,
im on stock rom, with bootloader unlocked and root installed. my deivce is still very hot even after system configurations, so id like some advice on how to tweak the kernel or improve performance, make it not overheat, install custom roms or delete system apps and so on.
Ive tried uninstaller system applications or bloatware, tweaking the kernel with CPU Tuner, installing and configuring the L Speed app, who i was someone had awesome resaults with here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/themes-apps/one-to-tweak-apps-l-speed-t3350288
i only get around 2 hrs of screen on time with my deice, and a lot of heat, i saw it over 80 degrees yesterday...
id like some good optimization and battery life for the device, as im not able to do so now...
thanks in advanced
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Well try to install the latest firmware .244 is not that much hot. I'm using it for the past 8 hours ?

njaya95 said:
Well try to install the latest firmware .244 is not that much hot. I'm using it for the past 8 hours ��
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Ive been using that firmware sins the day it released (a weak ago almost)? but no change there...
what i have done now is done some heavy modifications to the kernel and some CPU governors.
I flashed this Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/development/kernel-andropluskernel-t3392772
the kernel works like a dream after under-clocking it with this program: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor&hl=no
Used the "alucard" governor, CPU is sitting around 60 degrees when using the camera, and its a bit laggy, but much more survivable that it was before...

This Kernel is the best you can do, perhaps you can try to deactivate one or two of the big cores.

xswish said:
Ive been using that firmware sins the day it released (a weak ago almost)? but no change there...
what i have done now is done some heavy modifications to the kernel and some CPU governors.
I flashed this Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/development/kernel-andropluskernel-t3392772
the kernel works like a dream after under-clocking it with this program: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor&hl=no
Used the "alucard" governor, CPU is sitting around 60 degrees when using the camera, and its a bit laggy, but much more survivable that it was before...
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I never tweaked anything but mine is only hot when I play heavy games and record video for more than 20 mins (720p)
Anyway your lag is too much or just a little bit???
And one thing I use stamina mode whenever I'm about to do something CPUy
So try it without tweaks and tell me what's the result.

Trilliard said:
This Kernel is the best you can do, perhaps you can try to deactivate one or two of the big cores.
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thanks ill try that!!

njaya95 said:
I never tweaked anything but mine is only hot when I play heavy games and record video for more than 20 mins (720p)
Anyway your lag is too much or just a little bit???
And one thing I use stamina mode whenever I'm about to do something CPUy
So try it without tweaks and tell me what's the result.
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I get the stamina thing, id do that too if i did not need the screen brightness
The laggs are not small, im talking CPU om 80 degrees an so hot that i can not touch top backside of the phone
and thats withou any tweaks on MM .244 with everything stock. Ive also tried it with root, but really that does not make any differense, i need to edit the kernel to be able to use the camera, or else it will shut down when recording in 720p.
Anyways, underclocking the device for me, actualle made it faster in my case, i have no idea why makes no sense, but there is no throtteling and cpu struggles when underclocking it, so now it relly smooth, a lot smoother than on stock .244 MM,
Hope it help!

xswish said:
I get the stamina thing, id do that too if i did not need the screen brightness
The laggs are not small, im talking CPU om 80 degrees an so hot that i can not touch top backside of the phone
and thats withou any tweaks on MM .244 with everything stock. Ive also tried it with root, but really that does not make any differense, i need to edit the kernel to be able to use the camera, or else it will shut down when recording in 720p.
Anyways, underclocking the device for me, actualle made it faster in my case, i have no idea why makes no sense, but there is no throtteling and cpu struggles when underclocking it, so now it relly smooth, a lot smoother than on stock .244 MM,
Hope it help!
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Okay i'll try underclocking and let you know what happened here.

njaya95 said:
Okay i'll try underclocking and let you know what happened here.
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thank! would like to see what others get as resaults !
have u had any heating issues as well?

xswish said:
thank! would like to see what others get as resaults !
have u had any heating issues as well?
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Well it gets hot but I don't mind about the heat, I'll throw it in a glass of water or inside the refrigerator if it's too hot [emoji48] . And I didn't underclock it. It's still running stock governor.
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njaya95 said:
Well it gets hot but I don't mind about the heat, I'll throw it in a glass of water or inside the refrigerator if it's too hot [emoji48] . And I didn't underclock it. It's still running stock governor.
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I dont mind the heat as well, but it is throttling in my day to day use applications, that's what's bothering me?

Good workaround (Kernel/Firmware) against overheating?

Hello guys I got some huge problems here.
I recently switched from my Z2 to the Z3+ and actually like the phone but the overheating is insane and especially kills Pokemon Go through CPU throttling, which runs smoothly on my old Z2 .
So far I am on 253, cleaned it up and tried a self modified and the zach beta9 Kernel and and runs quite bad on both. Is heating a lesser issue of 224? I actually do not want to reflash the whole system to 224 just to find out it doesn't get better.
Also is there a way to undervolt/underclock? I can change settings in Kernel Aduitor but I have the feeling the phone doesn't really care.
Help much appreciated - thanks!

Try Zach beta 8 kernel. Limit max cpu frequency by kernel auditor.
Still it's only your Goodluck if your device cools down. It's a bitter truth about this model.

waseemakhtar said:
Try Zach beta 8 kernel. Limit max cpu frequency by kernel auditor.
Still it's only your Goodluck if your device cools down. It's a bitter truth about this model.
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Do you have a clue whether 224 or 256 make a difference?
I will try beta8 and report back.

Delvius said:
Do you have a clue whether 224 or 256 make a difference?
I will try beta8 and report back.
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no there was no thermal improvements between these builds, dont flash your system back
but do underclock and tell us the results!
Im also affected by your exact problem

Try this kernel, seems promising. I haven't tried it since it doesnt have twrp.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...m5z-kernel-t3421630/post67813517#post67813517
Edit: Today I have flashed 256, haven't found any improvement. As per my experience 256 haven't brought any noticable change.

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Thank you for the replies!
Tested zach beta8, didn't help. Now I am testing http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/orig-development/kernel-om5z-kernel-t3421630/ as suggested and if that doesn't help much also with http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/general/kill-overheating-flash-zip-t3421782.
And Stamina Mode helps at least a bit.

Statusreport: It always runs bad. But best at the moment with root patched Stock Kernel (253) and that underclocking zip. Although I think that underclocking doesn't really help at all.

Delvius said:
Statusreport: It always runs bad. But best at the moment with root patched Stock Kernel (253) and that underclocking zip. Although I think that underclocking doesn't really help at all.
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What are your temps? When does it start to throttle? Done any thermal-conf configuration to allow more heat?
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I know that @Trilliard has a very good and stable cpu governor where he has disabled two of the little and two of the big cores, this helps a lot if you underclock the remaining 4
Here are his files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/general/dont-custom-kernels-want-to-avoid-idle-t3409647
UPDATE: Added my edited files used to apply CPU tweaks (cores down clocked to 0.9 and 1.2ghz, two core disabled, tweaked cpu governor, power and others mods) and these files located in etc folder. Replace them and set correct permissions then reboot.
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bjowol said:
What are your temps? When does it start to throttle? Done any thermal-conf configuration to allow more heat?
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I know that @Trilliard has a very good and stable cpu governor where he has disabled two of the little and two of the big cores, this helps a lot if you underclock the remaining 4
Here are his files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/general/dont-custom-kernels-want-to-avoid-idle-t3409647
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Actually I didn't know about this combination - I will try it thanks!
Do you know about a thermal-conf? Actually never tried one. The phone gets hot indeed but I still think there might be some space before it actually melts.

Delvius said:
Actually I didn't know about this combination - I will try it thanks!
Do you know about a thermal-conf? Actually never tried one. The phone gets hot indeed but I still think there might be some space before it actually melts.
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Thats what i thought as well i have my own here, its based on another persos post, but i dont remember where...
Anyways, his camera mod worked, but cpu throttle was not tampered with, and it caused a very unbalanced throttling... Ok yay i can use the camera linger and fluently, but when i exit the camera app, i cant use the phone couse its runnig at 348 mhz...
So i i did some modifications to it cpu never get under 840 for little cores, so your phones menues end web browsing are always safe from performance drops.
I made it to be able to play Pokemon go, and achieved a lot better resault than without any changes.. still prefer playing on my shield tablet, but if i dont have it around when theres a lot od pokestops nearby, then this will work for me.
While playing Pokemon go it does not go over 80 degrees, but using snapshat it can get to 85, so dont use snap for to long
Let me know if it worked for you!

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Thats what i thought as well i have my own here, its based on another persos post, but i dont remember where...
Anyways, his camera mod worked, but cpu throttle was not tampered with, and it caused a very unbalanced throttling... Ok yay i can use the camera linger and fluently, but when i exit the camera app, i cant use the phone couse its runnig at 348 mhz...
So i i did some modifications to it cpu never get under 840 for little cores, so your phones menues end web browsing are always safe from performance drops.
I made it to be able to play Pokemon go, and achieved a lot better resault than without any changes.. still prefer playing on my shield tablet, but if i dont have it around when theres a lot od pokestops nearby, then this will work for me.
While playing Pokemon go it does not go over 80 degrees, but using snapshat it can get to 85, so dont use snap for to long
Let me know if it worked for you!
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Oh nice! Thank you a lot! I will totally try it out directly when PTC comes back alive. X)
What kernel and governors do you use?

Delvius said:
Oh nice! Thank you a lot! I will totally try it out directly when PTC comes back alive. X)
What kernel and governors do you use?
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Im using stock kernel, may switch to another soon. Im using stock bcause of batterylife and idle power consumption
Im using the governor and cpu modifications in this post ; http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/general/dont-custom-kernels-want-to-avoid-idle-t3409647

Hmm. Still runs ****ty.
Can anyone give me a short guide how to edit thermal and governors?
According to my observations the phone gets hot and then cold. I think the throttle is more aggressive and needed and I want to make it less aggressive.

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I made my own modifications to the thermal engine. It is pretty bad for battery I guess but I had a very good expierence playing Pokemon Go with it today. Yes the phone gets hot. Like it doesn't drop below 70°C while playing and regulary hits 80°C but it works good. No dark screen, no 0 CPUs downclocking. So far it's fine for me, maybe I get squeeze even more out of it.

Delvius said:
Update:
I made my own modifications to the thermal engine. It is pretty bad for battery I guess but I had a very good expierence playing Pokemon Go with it today. Yes the phone gets hot. Like it doesn't drop below 70°C while playing and regulary hits 80°C but it works good. No dark screen, no 0 CPUs downclocking. So far it's fine for me, maybe I get squeeze even more out of it.
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Done any other modifications to your file for a while? Or is it working good for you now? What's your SoT?

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Done any other modifications to your file for a while? Or is it working good for you now? What's your SoT?
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Still working good for me. Not sure if I can really squeeze out more and as long as it works at the moment I do not have a good motivation to try anything else.
No idea about SoT. Always running around with a powerbank. Probably bad, it is not designed for good battery life.

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Still working good for me. Not sure if I can really squeeze out more and as long as it works at the moment I do not have a good motivation to try anything else.
No idea about SoT. Always running around with a powerbank. Probably bad, it is not designed for good battery life.
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Allright thanks i might try your conf if i cant get mine to work like I want

Vainglory

Hi guys, now that I'm really desperate and gave up, I want to ask you all if you guys know a single ROM that can play vainglory without any issue, I literally have tried all ROMS in this forum, but nothing could satisfie me, maybe JDC 7.1 is an exception, its a perfect ROM for playing games, but in long term of use, it started to slowed down, and issues occurred, so any of you guys know which ROM, or maybe a best configuration to play vainglory without any issues like lags, thermal throttled, and high ping issue? Or is it just me? Or maybe I bought a wrong phone for gaming? The snapdragon 820 in this Mi 5 really gave me boner but now that its not sound so awesome anymore, even Redmi note 4x could play this game without any issue at all. Thank you in advance guys

did u tried Purefusion OS? or CRDROID ? Both are a great ROM, and i play all those game without any issue.

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did u tried Purefusion OS? or CRDROID ? Both are a great ROM, and i play all those game without any issue.
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Could you give me the link to those ROM sir?

The361 said:
Could you give me the link to those ROM sir?
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Crdroid : https://sourceforge.net/projects/cc0705/files/CRDROID/
For purefusion, you can found it on mi 5 section on xda

The361 said:
Hi guys, now that I'm really desperate and gave up, I want to ask you all if you guys know a single ROM that can play vainglory without any issue, I literally have tried all ROMS in this forum, but nothing could satisfie me, maybe JDC 7.1 is an exception, its a perfect ROM for playing games, but in long term of use, it started to slowed down, and issues occurred, so any of you guys know which ROM, or maybe a best configuration to play vainglory without any issues like lags, thermal throttled, and high ping issue? Or is it just me? Or maybe I bought a wrong phone for gaming? The snapdragon 820 in this Mi 5 really gave me boner but now that its not sound so awesome anymore, even Redmi note 4x could play this game without any issue at all. Thank you in advance guys
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Saying Issues u mean FPS drop? Im playing similiar game Mobile Legends and I had same problem.. after 10min cpu throttled like sh*t with gpu.. both went down gpu from 624mhz to 410 and cpu from 2.1 to 1.6. I found solution here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/how-to-disable-thermal-throttling-t3636574
On every rom I just delete these 2 files and everything is fine - phone is not even HOT when playin. Im using it for like 3 months or more and its awesome.. 60fps without lags even if im playin 2/3hours from 100% to 0% battery. u should try if u want to play mobas on mi5 ))))

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Crdroid : https://sourceforge.net/projects/cc0705/files/CRDROID/
For purefusion, you can found it on mi 5 section on xda
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Okay, tried crdroid 7.1 and its fast, true, but not fast enough, and purefusion 7.1 is at the same speed compared to JDC 7.1, i think it's because "EAS" similarity, i dont know for a long time usage, soon i will find out if this rom is really the rom that i looking for or not, thank you so much sir, oh btw i read in the purefusion thread that using bb kernel is recomended, i mean, how bis is the difference with using it?
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Saying Issues u mean FPS drop? Im playing similiar game Mobile Legends and I had same problem.. after 10min cpu throttled like sh*t with gpu.. both went down gpu from 624mhz to 410 and cpu from 2.1 to 1.6. I found solution here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/how-to-disable-thermal-throttling-t3636574
On every rom I just delete these 2 files and everything is fine - phone is not even HOT when playin. Im using it for like 3 months or more and its awesome.. 60fps without lags even if im playin 2/3hours from 100% to 0% battery. u should try if u want to play mobas on mi5 ))))
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Yeah, i already knew about that sir, but i dont know, my phone seem stuttering for a long term usage, i tried with JDC 7.1 and Viver OS, on both ROMs i deleted those files, but still, after a while the lags came back., but thank you for answering

I am also searching for this one, but for another game haha, I bought it for playing Rules of survival but while playing fps drops, i tried on several roms but still didnt find solution, i would be glad if you tell me if you find any solution?

richard el renthlei said:
I am also searching for this one, but for another game haha, I bought it for playing Rules of survival but while playing fps drops, i tried on several roms but still didnt find solution, i would be glad if you tell me if you find any solution?
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I can't say for sure for now my friend, now im using purefusion os 7.1 and deleted thermal files, its on day 2 now i think, and the only issue i got is the force close apps sometimes like 9 gag, youtube and i cant delete a system app like google camera, i want to change it to the updated version, tried to delete it with link2sd, didnt work, and the gesture setting is force close when i open it, but regarding to gaming performance, its great, at least for now even tho its warm , but acceptable, will report here about 1 or two weeks my friend

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I can't say for sure for now my friend, now im using purefusion os 7.1 and deleted thermal files, its on day 2 now i think, and the only issue i got is the force close apps sometimes like 9 gag, youtube and i cant delete a system app like google camera, i want to change it to the updated version, tried to delete it with link2sd, didnt work, and the gesture setting is force close when i open it, but regarding to gaming performance, its great, at least for now even tho its warm , but acceptable, will report here about 1 or two weeks my friend
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Ok ill wait for your update, i usually play with charging my battery, will it be alright if i remove thermal for that?