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Hi,
I notice that even if I kill applications "Maps" and "Sms" they keep showing in the list. I guess they are restarted by something. I have my GPS turned on but surely that should not start Maps? And I'm using Handsent for my messaging - not Sms.
Any advices?
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Don't quote me on this but I always thought that 3rd party messaging apps need the stock app running to work correctly
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shiftyllama said:
Don't quote me on this but I always thought that 3rd party messaging apps need the stock app running to work correctly
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Sounds reasonable, then I'm only left with why Maps is restarting
Thanks.
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Lately I've noticed a lot of apps myself that never used to start by themselves doing so now. Even after shutting them down in settings they seem to start up again. The only way I've found around this so far is to clear cache and data. Clearing data is a bit of a pain because it means entering user names and passwords again everytime you wanna use the app. If there is a better solution I'd also be interested to know. As far as I know from my own experience none of the app killing apps out there really work and I've tried a good few.
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Lately I've noticed a lot of apps myself that never used to start by themselves doing so now. Even after shutting them down in settings they seem to start up again. The only way I've found around this so far is to clear cache and data. Clearing data is a bit of a pain because it means entering user names and passwords again everytime you wanna use the app. If there is a better solution I'd also be interested to know. As far as I know from my own experience none of the app killing apps out there really work and I've tried a good few.
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Hope you are not right. I'd hate to reset Maps. On the other hand I dont want it to use 25% of the battery doing nothing as it does now!
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call me stupid, but i think the device is preloading all the system apps...
Hawkysoft said:
call me stupid, but i think the device is preloading all the system apps...
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No that I'm seeing "Maps" in the application list without starting it is a new experience. And surely a navigation application is not a system app...
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Got it!
My GPS was lit (as it should be), and if the "Maps" application is set to automatically register my locations it will fire Maps when the GPS is lit. Disable the GPS or disable the automatics in Maps and it all works
Thanks.
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with system apps i ment the default apps that are preinstalled on your device / rom...
and it does preload these ^^
Whenever I use this app **** it doesn't work properly, here is some bugs:
The widget is ****ed up! You click on the bottom and it says it closes 6 apps, the turn out: it doesnt close any ****. My apps keep running, and on settings I configure it to close way more apps than 6. but doesnt work..
Properly configured I go to optimize to close 42 apps. Ok, I know some of them are from android and android properly blocks that even though Im rooted and I grant the permission.
But some apps don't even close.. like facebook, cleaner...
Do that on your own. Close the apps with the Battery doctor app then go check apps that's running, and they will be there!
What is happening ?
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Liooh said:
Whenever I use this app **** it doesn't work properly, here is some bugs:
The widget is ****ed up! You click on the bottom and it says it closes 6 apps, the turn out: it doesnt close any ****. My apps keep running, and on settings I configure it to close way more apps than 6. but doesnt work..
Properly configured I go to optimize to close 42 apps. Ok, I know some of them are from android and android properly blocks that even though Im rooted and I grant the permission.
But some apps don't even close.. like facebook, cleaner...
Do that on your own. Close the apps with the Battery doctor app then go check apps that's running, and they will be there!
What is happening ?
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Test DU Battery Saver is best
keeps running...
Also, DU doesnt have the lowering CPU usage function --'
I personally use Greenify (non-root) with Automated hibernation enabled. Works fine for me and keeps those apps that sick the battery hibernated. I've not used Battery Doctor, and possibly won't since it sounds like some of the malware I remove off client unit's at work.
Battery "saver" apps usually end up doing the opposite... Wasting.
Except Greenify, when used properly. ?
Just my 2 cents.
Also, no need for the language... This is an all ages site remember. ?
Ok I'm new here, signed up just to get help with this, so here's my problem.
Just got a new phone, a Nexus 6 (not the 6p). Upgraded to Android 6.0. Previously had a Note 3 running kitkat. On my Note 3 if I got new posts to a thread I'm subscribed to on a forum I'm a member of, new messages on Instagram or new messages on kik my phone notified me that I had the message. The app didn't have to be running for this to work. With my Nexus 6 however that isn't the case!
Text messages, voicemails and emails all work fine and notify my just the way they should, it's only the 3rd party apps that don't work. I know it's not the apps because like I mentioned it's ALL the installed 3rd party apps doing this! It has to have something to do with the Nexus 6 or the Android 6.0 or a combination of the 2.
I scoured the web looking for answers, including this forum, and came up empty so here's the information that people usually ask for:
1) My phone isn't on silent or do not disturb mode
2) My volume is turned up
3) Sound and notification settings-App notifications are normal and allow peaking for the apps in question. Treat as priority if not on because I don't want the notifications when I'm sleeping but this shouldn't keep them from coming in normally when the volume isn't turned off.
4) Settings-Apps for each app the notifications ARE NOT blocked and allow peaking is on.
5) I enabled ALL requested permissions for each app just to make sure a blocked permission wasn't the problem.
6) I white listed each app from battery optimization to ensure this wasn't causing the problem.
7) Battery saver is not turned on.
8) Push notifications are turned on and allowed for each app in the settings on the app and the notifications sound in the app settings is my default notification, which is set because it's the same one I get when the app is running.
Someone please help! This is driving me crazy. Like I mentioned I get the notifications if I have the app running in the background but if the app is off I don't. On my last phone I didn't have to leave the app running 24/7, draining my battery, to get the notifications! Is there some way to fix this????
Also, I already wiped the system data partition.
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Ok I'm new here, signed up just to get help with this, so here's my problem.
Just got a new phone, a Nexus 6 (not the 6p). Upgraded to Android 6.0. Previously had a Note 3 running kitkat. On my Note 3 if I got new posts to a thread I'm subscribed to on a forum I'm a member of, new messages on Instagram or new messages on kik my phone notified me that I had the message. The app didn't have to be running for this to work. With my Nexus 6 however that isn't the case!
Text messages, voicemails and emails all work fine and notify my just the way they should, it's only the 3rd party apps that don't work. I know it's not the apps because like I mentioned it's ALL the installed 3rd party apps doing this! It has to have something to do with the Nexus 6 or the Android 6.0 or a combination of the 2.
I scoured the web looking for answers, including this forum, and came up empty so here's the information that people usually ask for:
1) My phone isn't on silent or do not disturb mode
2) My volume is turned up
3) Sound and notification settings-App notifications are normal and allow peaking for the apps in question. Treat as priority if not on because I don't want the notifications when I'm sleeping but this shouldn't keep them from coming in normally when the volume isn't turned off.
4) Settings-Apps for each app the notifications ARE NOT blocked and allow peaking is on.
5) I enabled ALL requested permissions for each app just to make sure a blocked permission wasn't the problem.
6) I white listed each app from battery optimization to ensure this wasn't causing the problem.
7) Battery saver is not turned on.
8) Push notifications are turned on and allowed for each app in the settings on the app and the notifications sound in the app settings is my default notification, which is set because it's the same one I get when the app is running.
Someone please help! This is driving me crazy. Like I mentioned I get the notifications if I have the app running in the background but if the app is off I don't. On my last phone I didn't have to leave the app running 24/7, draining my battery, to get the notifications! Is there some way to fix this????
Also, I already wiped the system data partition.
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Are you using a custom ROM or did you take an OTA to get to Android 6.0? I also wanted to ask if you were getting the proper notifications from using lollipop 5.1.1 while you were on it? If you took the OTA I'd suggest wiping app cache/data for kik and that MIGHT restore the kik functionality. If it works for that one app it may work for others.
You haven't installed a third-party notification system at all have you? Like Teslaunread or anything else that requests notification access on your device?
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Ok I'm new here, signed up just to get help with this, so here's my problem . . .
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I know you said battery saver is not turned on now, but did you ever have it on? I ask because ever since I turned it on for a few hours (then turned it off and kept it off), 3rd-party notifications have been wonky.
No custom ROM, I took OTA to get to 6.0 but I didn't install any of the APP's prior to getting to 6.0 so I don't know if they would have worked with 5.1.1 or not unfortunately.
I do have Nova Launcher and use Teslaunread with that but I had that on my previous phone and it didn't interfere with any of my notifications coming through.
And yes the battery saver was on a couple times when the battery got low.
Ahhh see you are making a misconception. The app has to be running to get notifications. At least the service does. When you killed them with your old device it only removed them from your view. It didn't really close them out. Unlike stock Android. If you kill the app then it is really killed. Killing the app will also stop the service which prevents your notifications from coming in.
Your best bet is to leave it be.
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Ahhh see you are making a misconception. The app has to be running to get notifications. At least the service does. When you killed them with your old device it only removed them from your view. It didn't really close them out. Unlike stock Android. If you kill the app then it is really killed. Killing the app will also stop the service which prevents your notifications from coming in.
Your best bet is to leave it be.
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Actually leaving it running in the back ground still won't give me the notification, I only get the notification when I click on the app and open it, even if it is listed as running in the background. I found that out because I did start leaving the apps running so I'd get the notifications, only to find out that didn't fix my problem like I thought it would.
Party Girl said:
Actually leaving it running in the back ground still won't give me the notification, I only get the notification when I click on the app and open it, even if it is listed as running in the background. I found that out because I did start leaving the apps running so I'd get the notifications, only to find out that didn't fix my problem like I thought it would.
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Do you have greenify or any apps that effect doze installed?
Could have been an issue with the OTA, you could flash the Stock 6.0 image via Fastboot, it may be worth trying PNF on android play, i use the root version so not sure on the non root but it's stops delayed notifications.
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Do you have greenify or any apps that effect doze installed?
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I used greenify w/root on my last phone but not this one. I don't think any of my apps would affect doze and turned doze off for the apps I've had trouble with to try and make sure doze wasn't the issue. Still not luck.
stylez said:
Could have been an issue with the OTA, you could flash the Stock 6.0 image via Fastboot, it may be worth trying PNF on android play, i use the root version so not sure on the non root but it's stops delayed notifications.
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I may try those option and see if they help. This is driving me crazy, I figured a newer operating system would mean a better android experience but so far I was a lot happier with kitkat than I have been with marshmallow.
first think, my phone running stock and no root and still locked bootloader. warranty is off and i dont want to go to official service center as much as possible.
its 90% chance it would force reboot (freeze and then reboot) when i play game listed in armory crate (such mobile legend, arena of valor,or pubg). so i exclude the game from armory crate and it seems fine.
i update to latest firmware and it seems make it worst. sometimes when i scrolling down instagram or even make a whatsapp video call, it force reboot..
i already tried to downgrade from android 10 Version WW-17.0240.2108.103 using "Version Android 10 downgrade to P (WW)" from official website.
is anyone here have my problem or heard of such problem??
help me please
Factory reset... before the OS crashes and burns.
That's where you're headed; Androids exhibiting system instability have a severe issue(s).
Possible malware or rootkit.
Don't reload the trashware; WhatsApp, Instagram, FB and be wary of gaming apps.
already done that.. factory reset before downgrading.. and usually it happen consecutively.. after done reboot.. i go straight to the game to reconnect.. if i forgot to exclude it before go to the game, its 100% freeze and reboot again right away..
Ditch the problem app before it crashes your OS.
You need to keep your house in check...
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Ditch the problem app before it crashes your OS.
You need to keep your house in check...
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i think the problem apps is armory crate.. because i close all apps before launch the game except armory crate..
truevalkyrie said:
i think the problem apps is armory crate.. because i close all apps before launch the game except armory crate..
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Check it's permissions.
Clear it's cache.
Clear system cache.
If no joy, clear the app's data.
If still no joy, ditch the buggy app before it causes more trouble.
I have zero tolerance for poorly coded apps. They can cause a lot of trouble including the need for a factory reset. Boot loops and altering hidden user settings are some of the mayhem they can cause. Better to nip it in the bud.
done..problem still there (mobile legends+armory crate = freeze then reboot)
I will test and post any other changes, like the version of the camera app
Kenshin1870 said:
I will test and post any other changes, like the version of the camera app
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New update, PD2227B
Here is a screenshot, later i post if i see any obvious changes
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It's not new
Damn, after the upgrade I can't install apks. The window closes when I press "Continue Installation"
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Damn, after the upgrade I can't install apks. The window closes when I press "Continue Installation"
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I had that issue previously. I fixed it by restoring the V-Appstore.
jericho246 said:
I had that issue previously. I fixed it by restoring the V-Appstore.
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How do you restore the v-appstore?
Since last version constant problems
And yeah same problem with apk as mentioned above. This is simply a phone constantly causing problems... Things don't work steadily...
agree completely. and the bugs are so inconsistent..so you cant really make sense of whats going on to remedy to it.
PILLS2389 said:
Damn, after the upgrade I can't install apks. The window closes when I press "Continue Installation"
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Weird everything is fine for me.
extremecarver said:
Since last version constant problems View attachment 5839799
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Did you change the "Background power consumption management" setting of AccuBattery to "High background power usage" ?
djyeo123 said:
How do you restore the v-appstore?
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well it only applies if you actually removed or disabled the V-Appstore. Otherwise no idea what could be causing this problem.
If you debloated via ADB AppControl (https://adbappcontrol.com/en/) then it should be as easy as going into the "disabled" or "removed" tab and then restoring the app.
The alternative solution would be to run the reverse debloat script (credit to @raimondomartire for original script.
I edited it so it only restores the V-Appstore)
671 byte file on MEGA
mega.nz
No change, accubattery is still set to high battery use, it's locked in the recent apps drawer and Autostart etc. Enabled.
But Autostart never worked for it. On reboot I always have to start it manually and never close the window in the recent apps otherwise I know Vivo kills it. It's really a pain seeing how unreliable those settings are. And I don't ever use power saving mode or dark mode....
Seeing it was killed several times according to the message is even more strange
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No change, accubattery is still set to high battery use, it's locked in the recent apps drawer and Autostart etc. Enabled.
But Autostart never worked for it. On reboot I always have to start it manually and never close the window in the recent apps otherwise I know Vivo kills it. It's really a pain seeing how unreliable those settings are. And I don't ever use power saving mode or dark mode....
Seeing it was killed several times according to the message is even more strange
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I use no problem accubattery on my x90 P+
Need to set correct and work perfect
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No change, accubattery is still set to high battery use, it's locked in the recent apps drawer and Autostart etc. Enabled.
But Autostart never worked for it. On reboot I always have to start it manually and never close the window in the recent apps otherwise I know Vivo kills it. It's really a pain seeing how unreliable those settings are. And I don't ever use power saving mode or dark mode....
Seeing it was killed several times according to the message is even more strange
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What about the vivo.pem thingy? Did you remove it?
Yes of course. All other apps I added to Autostart and high battery use seem to be fine, at least for notifications. Because muted group chats on Line and Signal clearly need to download if not actually open before. So they seem to be somehow affected too. Note that this doesn't apply to non muted individual chats or non muted group chats.
I read somewhere that the bug with dark mode is triggered by muted group chats. Maybe this has system wide implications? That's what I hate here, bugs are kinda always depending on super strange combinations which don't seem to make sense in first place (more like some vivo engineer thought he can save some battery here or there without noticing to breaking a lot of functions. Clearly missing quality control between Teams or individuals working on the software)...
And again as long as an app is open in recent Apps app drawer its not affected.
Could it be that those users that aren't affected are using a third party app drawer for recent apps? If you do that than maybe the results will be way different (same as not having muted group chats).
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Damn, after the upgrade I can't install apks. The window closes when I press "Continue Installation"
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If you can't install APKs, go to settings > Apps > package installer. On package installer clear cache, clear dat, force stop & uninstall updates. You can then install APKs again
PILLS2389 said:
Damn, after the upgrade I can't install apks. The window closes when I press "Continue Installation"
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If you can't install APKs, go to settings > Apps > package installer. On package installer clear cache, clear dat, force stop & uninstall updates. You can then install Apk
extremecarver said:
Since last version constant problems View attachment 5839799
And yeah same problem with apk as mentioned above. This is simply a phone constantly causing problems... Things don't work steadily...
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go to settings > Apps > package installer. On package installer clear cache, clear dat, force stop & uninstall updates. You can then install APKs again
The notifications works as expected, I just disabled AOD, and installed Muviz Edge to use AOD
Thanos88 said:
to settings > Apps > package installer. On package installer clear cache, clear dat, force stop & uninstall updates. You can then install APKs again
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Settings, apps& permissions --> apps manager --> there is no app with package in Name...
And accubattery got killed again... See zero battery usage and I had charged it to 100%... I really wonder if anyone gets equal hours here to actual phone use...
Accubattery is secured with the lock symbol yet if I swipe it up it gets killed. Adguard as a service works perfectly however. Accubattery cannot seem to get running as plain service however while storing usage data. The lockdown only changes that if you click on the X at the bottom the locked apps aren't killed.
Hmm, removing it from Autostart and reading it seems to have helped on reboots. But something seriously is wrong with this system if so often (notifications too) adding and removing an app from the lists changes something.
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Settings, apps& permissions --> apps manager --> there is no app with package in Name...
And accubattery got killed again... See zero battery usage and I had charged it to 100%... I really wonder if anyone gets equal hours here to actual phone use...
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Accubattery is secured with the lock symbol yet if I swipe it up it gets killed. Adguard as a service works perfectly however. Accubattery cannot seem to get running as plain service however while storing usage data. The lockdown only changes that if you click on the X at the bottom the locked apps aren't killed.
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Hmm, removing it from Autostart and reading it seems to have helped on reboots. But something seriously is wrong with this system if so often (notifications too) adding and removing an app from the lists changes something.
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There is definitely a app called package installed installer, it's on every android device. Unless you've debloated it
Yes there is but I cannot open it. I can delete it's data/cache however which doesn't change anything.
It's only a service not an app itself it seems to me. And as it's a service only it cannot be managed through apps and permissions. It can be found by searching for it from settings search field
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Yes there is but I cannot open it. I can delete it's data/cache however which doesn't change anything.
It's only a service not an app itself it seems to me. And as it's a service only it cannot be managed through apps and permissions. It can be found by searching for it from settings search field
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That's strange . I had same apk installation issues as, and I was able to uninstall updates for this package installer, cleared data and cache, and then apks installation worked without issues