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I always tought i was getting awful browsing speeds in all the broswers stock, dolphin,skyfire because of poor speed with my 3g connection or my wifi , but i got an ipod touch 4th generation and was blown away but how quickly the pages loaded , i am no apple troll, or fanboy i just want a rational explanation , i know the browser in froyo was adevrtising as a the fastest browser around , but is it any true? can someone with leaked 2.2 or official 2.2 running in the droid comment on this?
The browser is not blazing fast because of lack of CPU speed on a droid for the most part, apple likely has some type of gpu acceleration going on.
Loading times of web pages are noticeably improved in froyo.
fivefour said:
The browser is not blazing fast because of lack of CPU speed on a droid for the most part, apple likely has some type of gpu acceleration going on.
Loading times of web pages are noticeably improved in froyo.
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i have my milestone overclocked to 900 mhz and the gpu is supossed to be one of the best in android , so im guessing it must be the lack of gpu acceleration im pretty sure they wont implement it in gingerbread, maybe in honeycomb?
Are you getting poor download speeds or slow rendering speeds? The former is not the Milestone's fault because it should very fast with 3G/Wi-Fi G.
I get similar rendering speeds compared to the iP4, but the download speeds seem to be a bit slower on Wi-Fi. I'll attribute this to Wi-Fi N on the iPhone versus G on the Milestone.
AFAIK, the iPhone 4 uses PowerVR SGX 535, and the Milestone has the 530 --both pretty good and similarly powered. Even the Milestone 2 uses the same 530 chip.
IMO, Safari on iOS4 is superior to Dolphin HD on 2.1/2.2., but I love Dolphin's flexibility and options.
@900 rendering speeds of the stock browser surpasses ios on froyo....on 2.1 I don't know. I use xscope most of the time.
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Are you getting poor download speeds or slow rendering speeds? The former is not the Milestone's fault because it should very fast with 3G/Wi-Fi G.
I get similar rendering speeds compared to the iP4, but the download speeds seem to be a bit slower on Wi-Fi. I'll attribute this to Wi-Fi N on the iPhone versus G on the Milestone.
AFAIK, the iPhone 4 uses PowerVR SGX 535, and the Milestone has the 530 --both pretty good and similarly powered. Even the Milestone 2 uses the same 530 chip.
IMO, Safari on iOS4 is superior to Dolphin HD on 2.1/2.2., but I love Dolphin's flexibility and options.
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poor download speeds, the pages take forever to load even on 3g so i dont think wifi g is to blame
Hi all,
I have noticed that the stock browser runs really slow in comparison to Opera Mobile, especially when browsing the XDA forum. Page loading speed, panning and scrolling is a lot slower. Do you guys find that? Currently I have CM7 on an SDCard. Do you notice any performance difference running it on internal memory?
Thanks.
This is because Opera mobile uses the GPU for zooming and scrolling. It has nothing to do with it being on your SD card or CM7.
I tried out a Xoom today at Best Buy. I was mainly curious about its performance with web browsing through the stock browser. It seemed to perform pretty similar to the Nook Color on CM7, if a little faster, but some sites like the XDA forums here were still noticeably slow.
I find the slow performance of Android's UI to be very annoying because my 3 year old EeePC 900 on XP with its ancient Celeron M and Intel GMA 900 perform far better. Only Opera Mobile comes close but Opera Mobile is a rather annoying browser to use because of how limited the config options are and bookmark management is terrible. (yes I know about the ridiculous secret config page with its indecipherable options )
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I tried out a Xoom today at Best Buy. I was mainly curious about its performance with web browsing through the stock browser. It seemed to perform pretty similar to the Nook Color on CM7, if a little faster, but some sites like the XDA forums here were still noticeably slow.
I find the slow performance of Android's UI to be very annoying because my 3 year old EeePC 900 on XP with its ancient Celeron M and Intel GMA 900 perform far better. Only Opera Mobile comes close but Opera Mobile is a rather annoying browser to use because of how limited the config options are and bookmark management is terrible. (yes I know about the ridiculous secret config page with its indecipherable options )
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Blame the lack of GPU utilization on UI elements. Here's a good breakdown of opera:config settings.
So, I'm a droid user.
Got the tab and a xperia x10 (customized rom).
Why is it that I get 33mflops on the mobile and like 8mflops in the tablet (also customized rom)?
They both have a 1mghz processor....
Cheers!
i dont know but i also got an xperia x10
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i dont know but i also got an xperia x10
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what about your scores on both of them?
Which version of android is the x10 running? Id expect the tab to score better due to the fact that it is using a newer hummingbird than the x10's snapdragon. on the other hand i know one of the parts of the dalvic vm (JIT?) introduced in froyo is not only optimised for the snapdragon whilst in 2.3+ it is also optimised for the hummingbird. The problem with the snapdragons is that they tend to have bad GPUs compared to the hummingbird (same GPU as the ipad if i remember - then again the apple a4 in the ipad is a hummingbird with less ram)
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Which version of android is the x10 running? Id expect the tab to score better due to the fact that it is using a newer hummingbird than the x10's snapdragon. on the other hand i know one of the parts of the dalvic vm (JIT?) introduced in froyo is not only optimised for the snapdragon whilst in 2.3+ it is also optimised for the hummingbird. The problem with the snapdragons is that they tend to have bad GPUs compared to the hummingbird (same GPU as the ipad if i remember - then again the apple a4 in the ipad is a hummingbird with less ram)
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the hummingbird has to power a much larger WXGA 7 inch Display!
The SE X10 is only a FWVGA display.
My TG01 (1ghz snapdragon is faster than my tab even! :O
More pixels to load etc!
Also the TouchWiz is well known to be slow + laggy.
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Which version of android is the x10 running? Id expect the tab to score better due to the fact that it is using a newer hummingbird than the x10's snapdragon. on the other hand i know one of the parts of the dalvic vm (JIT?) introduced in froyo is not only optimised for the snapdragon whilst in 2.3+ it is also optimised for the hummingbird. The problem with the snapdragons is that they tend to have bad GPUs compared to the hummingbird (same GPU as the ipad if i remember - then again the apple a4 in the ipad is a hummingbird with less ram)
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So, it means that when we finally get 2.3 on our tabs, hopefully, we can expect better performance, right?
Anyway, I just thought it was really odd to have better scores in the tab. In this case, size doesn't matter
TY guys!
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So, it means that when we finally get 2.3 on our tabs, hopefully, we can expect better performance, right?
Anyway, I just thought it was really odd to have better scores in the tab. In this case, size doesn't matter
TY guys!
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the updates just roumd the corner!
Is there anyone playing Temple Run without lags on the Nexus one? If so, can you please tell me your ROM + kernel and specs. Thanks.
I'm running KANG CM7 Nightly, with Tiamat GB kernel...and i overclock it to 1228/460, with LAGFREE Governer... but i still experience lag. On the other hand, my HTC Desire Z is all stock, and it runs without any problems?
If anyone knows a solution, please post it here as it will help me and many others. Thank you
I think its due to the graphic card not enough powerfull
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I experience lag in both GB and ICS. I think it's a GPU limitation. It just get worse as the game gather speed.
Lag spikes (a second or two) on hummingbird which supposedly has higher clocked CPU and a graphics chip that is 2 times more powerful than the icrap 4.
The game is just badly optimised for android, needs a bloody dual core to run lag free ... while my friend with iPod touch 2g w/412MHz CPU & super slow PowerVR MBX Lite doesn't experience that kind of lag.
Hey guys, I know its kind of a stupid thing to start a thread on so just spear with me
In 2009 I had an iPhone 3GS. Its was the latest iPhone in 2009 and was super fast. No lags on opening apps, closing apps, multitasking, scrolling screen and stuff like that. It was 99% LAGFREE. Games worked wonderful. I'm a big fan of hacking, so I jailbroke the iPhone and it still remained smooth and fast. For those who don't know, iPhone 3GS has a 779mhz CPU (apple clocked it down to 600mhz to prevent battery drains and other instabilities) and only 256mb ram. Now I have an international version of galaxy S that is clocked to 1.3 GHZ that has a 512 MB of RAM and believe me its slower than the iPhone. I just want to know what is wrong with our phones? Does apple use some magic superpowers on their devices? Opening apps lags, closing apps lags the home screen scrolling for some time, there are frequent crashing due to low RAM, there's lags in browser :S the music player lacks things as filtering of files, it has a worse reception than the iPhone 3gs. GPS is not goood. Even typing is sometimes laggy... the new jellybean made it a lil more like an iPhone due to its 60hz refresh rate and triple buffering but it still lags. Can you guys give me your opinions on this and stuff? Again I'm not trying to complain, I'm just wondering how could this be possible.
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Didn't you ask the same question in general section?
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Didn't you ask the same question in general section?
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Yes I did. Is that bad?
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Helloworld294 said:
Yes I did. Is that bad?
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Asking one time is absolutely enough. We could stop posting in here, your other thread already got some responses.
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Asking one time is absolutely enough. We could stop posting in here, your other thread already got some responses.
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I didn't know, my bad.
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I own itouch 4 and i9000 with miui 2.8.10 and i can say that the SGS not slow as you describe
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I own itouch 4 and i9000 with miui 2.8.10 and i can say that the SGS not slow as you describe
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Itouch 4 maybe you have the 8gb one which is clocked to 600mhz and has 256mb ram. & believe me I had the iPhone 3GS in 2009 and I remember how everything was smooth even when I jailbroke it I OCed my iPhone to 800mhz and it became really fast. So idk... but now I know. Android uses CPU to render the UI, but as the new JELLYBEAN came out, its UI is rendered by the GPU which is how its supposed to be. That's why its alot smoother than previous android OS
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The answer is quite simple: Apple produces hardware and software made only for this hardware, Android is only software which has to work on any device. Furthermore there are more specs than RAM size or CPU frequency. If the hardware is specialized for something, you don't need that heavy hardware.
E.g. Playstations: They are optimized for graphic rendering and do that really well without a great amount of Hardware (I think the latest has 256 MB of graphic RAM). But try running anything else (Windows, lol) on them, it will lagg like hell
Same thing with the iPhone.
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The answer is quite simple: Apple produces hardware and software made only for this hardware, Android is only software which has to work on any device. Furthermore there are more specs than RAM size or CPU frequency. If the hardware is specialized for something, you don't need that heavy hardware.
E.g. Playstations: They are optimized for graphic rendering and do that really well without a great amount of Hardware (I think the latest has 256 MB of graphic RAM). But try running anything else (Windows, lol) on them, it will lagg like hell
Same thing with the iPhone.
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If that's the case, then why don't the android community create like groups? You know, Motorola Android group, Samsung Android group, HTC Android group etc. to ensure that the software is running according to the hardware! That'd be easier and cheaper for the companies too, plus will have a great impact on the reliability of the OS
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Hey guys, I know its kind of a stupid thing to start a thread on so just spear with me
In 2009 I had an iPhone 3GS. Its was the latest iPhone in 2009 and was super fast. No lags on opening apps, closing apps, multitasking, scrolling screen and stuff like that. It was 99% LAGFREE. Games worked wonderful. I'm a big fan of hacking, so I jailbroke the iPhone and it still remained smooth and fast. For those who don't know, iPhone 3GS has a 779mhz CPU (apple clocked it down to 600mhz to prevent battery drains and other instabilities) and only 256mb ram. Now I have an international version of galaxy S that is clocked to 1.3 GHZ that has a 512 MB of RAM and believe me its slower than the iPhone. I just want to know what is wrong with our phones? Does apple use some magic superpowers on their devices? Opening apps lags, closing apps lags the home screen scrolling for some time, there are frequent crashing due to low RAM, there's lags in browser :S the music player lacks things as filtering of files, it has a worse reception than the iPhone 3gs. GPS is not goood. Even typing is sometimes laggy... the new jellybean made it a lil more like an iPhone due to its 60hz refresh rate and triple buffering but it still lags. Can you guys give me your opinions on this and stuff? Again I'm not trying to complain, I'm just wondering how could this be possible.
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OEM ROMs are not that great, you should for sure try some custom ROMs:
(i) ICS: https://www.fixmystuff.in/FMS_Forum...dwich-4-0-4-on-samsung-galaxy-s-gt-i9000.125/
(ii) JB: https://www.fixmystuff.in/FMS_Forum/threads/installing-jelly-bean-4-1-on-galaxy-s-gt-i9000.131/
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OEM ROMs are not that great, you should for sure try some custom ROMs:
(i) ICS: https://www.fixmystuff.in/FMS_Forum...dwich-4-0-4-on-samsung-galaxy-s-gt-i9000.125/
(ii) JB: https://www.fixmystuff.in/FMS_Forum/threads/installing-jelly-bean-4-1-on-galaxy-s-gt-i9000.131/
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My friend let me assure you the last time I had a stock ROM was when I first got this phone and I only had it for two days. then I went to cm7--->darky's rom--->cm9--->slim ics--->TAJB----> now hellybean 12/10 so yeah..
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