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First of all I'd like to apologize because I'm sure this has been covered already but I just feel more comfortable asking myself.
I have had my g1 for a couple of months now and I'm starting to get all itchy for root for all the obvious reasons. I hoping someone can answer some questions or point me in the right direction.
I have ota CRB43 build on my phone. I see LOTS of different instructions for rooting.. I'm wondering what one I should go by. I also notice some people say to take out the SD card instead of mounting to prevent possibly bricking your phone... should I do that or is it better to mount with the usb? And after following whatever instructions is there anything else necessary to do?
I was also interested in what themes people are using. Can I jump right into that after rooting or is there something else I will need to do. Any links for themes you are using would be great also.
Thanks so much… I really appreciate it.. Thought I had more questions.. If I remember anything else I’ll update.
I used Gizmodo's guide - very simple and clear.
http://gizmodo.com/5146797/how-to-hack-android-for-multitouch-web-browsing-on-the-t+mobile-g1
If you follow it step-by-step you'll wind up with an old build, but you'll have root and be ready to step up to any new build. New builds are easy once you've rooted - rename to update.zip and flash using recovery (explained in the guide above).
You'll also want to get the newest radio (after rooting per directions above) - Download the ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip file from http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html#s3 -- Rename to update.zip and flash as usual.
And I had absolutely no problems mounting the SD Card via the phone itself. Just make sure you cleanly eject the card from your PC every time, to avoid corruption.
And let me suggest CyanogenMod for your build.. Simply the fastest and most stable Android build out there - "official" firmware included.
Thanks a lot for your response! It was helpful and I checked out your link.. I was looking at -
http://androidsocialmedia.com/root-access/android-g1-root-access-why-how
originally, but I think they look similar. Thanks for the radio info as well.. anything else besides that I'll need to update?
let me ask one more thing- what's the difference between CyanogenMod and the others available?
thanks again for your help!
sole3s said:
Thanks for the radio info as well.. anything else besides that I'll need to update?
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Well, I did skip the SPL - Some ROMS require a different SPL (Secondary Program Loader/Launcher, I think..) to free up additional space on the device. Mostly the Hero based ROMs. I haven't touched any of those, need someone else to help there.
sole3s said:
let me ask one more thing- what's the difference between CyanogenMod and the others available?
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Cyanogen is tweaking the heck out of Android - endlessly enhancing it for performance and stability. Cyanogen has a few visual tweaks but mostly it looks like stock Android with all the improvements under the hood.
The other builds.. Mostly visual, in my opinion. They all have fans though, check out the threads under Development for more details. Also, the Android ROM Database - http://www.simonwalkerphotos.com/android/android_build_information.asp
Dude, thanks so much for all this info.. http://www.simonwalkerphotos.com/and...nformation.asp was really helpful.
last question I'm gonna ask.. if i hard reset do is it going to unroot my phone?
Again.. you were really helpful! I appreciate it so much!
Nope it will not unroot you're phone
No, you'll just go back to a fresh version of whatever ROM you have installed. However, some ROMs (Like Cyanogen) put some apps in the /data folder, so a wipe could break the ROM. Typically it is better to flash after a wipe. But you won't loose root either way.
Only way I know how to loose root is to flash a none rooted ROM.
The only thing I would do is avoid the DangerSPL until you either need it or know what you are doing. Otherwise its pretty much hard to brick your phone unless your trying to with a low battery.
I'd just like to take a second to thank everyone for their help, especially Saiboogu. Like I said in the first post, I'm sure this stuff was covered somewhere but this really made me feel a bit more confident. Thanks for not flaming me... I'm actually a bit surprised at the friendly responses... again thanks everyone.
Most likely I'll be able to get around to rooting on monday or tuesday.. I'll post updates just for the fun of it.
Take it easy guys
Lol well you posted it in the right section. Of course you are going to get help
What alritewhadeva said .. You ask in the right place, we'll help. You're off to a good start.
Is there a difference between the two or are they identical?
If identical then i'll just install
http://db.androidspin.com/android_developer_display.asp?developerid=21
would save the trouble of unrooting
hawee8 said:
Is there a difference between the two or are they identical?
If identical then i'll just install
http://db.androidspin.com/android_developer_display.asp?developerid=21
would save the trouble of unrooting
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1st is myfave in OTA if you dont have myfave in your account then it's basically the same
Feels like beating a dead horse saying this is posted in the wrong forum. There's a q&a section and general...
Anyways, ota updates are tmobile based. They have myfaves, are labeled as a g1 device, and are usually odexed. Adp updates are aimed at a dev phone, they are labeled as such, don't come with myfaves or other propprietary software, and are usually not odexed. Both are signed with different keys
ADP1 doesn't have tmobile spam.
ADP1 has root.
ADP1 doesn't waste data by downloading OTA updates behind your back.
My concern is different. I use the one-click method to root the phone, namely the recovery flasher. I understand that it uses a hole that it patched in newer Unix OS. So my question is whether accepting Donut over the air will include a patch that would disable the one-step rooting of the phone?
Rooted phones don't receive ota's, hope that's not unresponsive
Yes, we know that, but right now my phone is unrooted and I am pondering whether to accept the OTA 1.6 or to reject it because it might be preventing future rooting.
There may be many unrooted users as of this moment and we need guidance whether we should accept or reject a 1.6 OTA.
EDIT: From the official announcement, "Android 1.6 upgrades the Linux kernel from 2.6.27 to 2.6.29". So the real question is whether the kernel pdate renders one-click rooting impossible.
donut patches that lunix exploit for the one click root hack. so yes if you accept that image you will have to root it the old fashion way by reflashing the rc 29 image and using telnet and whatnot.
1) So shouldn't someone post a big warning to unsuspecting users not to accept 1.6 OTA automatically?
2) Is anybody going to create an alternative one-click method. Not everyone out there (and that includes me) has the expertise to do the more complex rooting process ...
rbrahmson said:
1) So shouldn't someone post a big warning to unsuspecting users not to accept 1.6 OTA automatically?
2) Is anybody going to create an alternative one-click method. Not everyone out there (and that includes me) has the expertise to do the more complex rooting process ...
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If you don't have the expertise to root your phone the old fasion way. Then you SHOULD NOT be rooting your phone at all. Just accept the ota update and leave it at that.
rbrahmson said:
1) So shouldn't someone post a big warning to unsuspecting users not to accept 1.6 OTA automatically?
2) Is anybody going to create an alternative one-click method. Not everyone out there (and that includes me) has the expertise to do the more complex rooting process ...
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okay why dont u just hurry up and root..then install one of the custom 1.6 roms
yes the OTA 1.6 will patch up the "hole" needed for the 1-click root.
from what i figure out if you already have OTa 1.6 then downgrade to OTA cupcake and then try 1 click root. or root the LOONG way.
If you cannot root by downgrading to rc29 ,then how do expect to solve any problems your phone gives you after you root it?
starscream00 said:
If you don't have the expertise to root your phone the old fasion way. Then you SHOULD NOT be rooting your phone at all. Just accept the ota update and leave it at that.
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highly untrue. i dont have "expertise" in doing root the long way.
i dont even remember EVERYTHING(mostly commands in terminal) since i only rooted ONCE the long way. and its been a loong tim since i rooted. so i am no expert
so i think u need to stfu. what you said wasnt being very constructive and very much false.
david1171 said:
If you cannot root by downgrading to rc29 ,then how do expect to solve any problems your phone gives you after you root it?
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i agree thats y i dnt like the one click method. it just brought a flood of noobs who didnt understand what they were doing by rooting it. i mean i was a noob when i rooted but i did it the old way by dwngrading and such.
pistol4413 said:
i agree thats y i dnt like the one click method. it just brought a flood of noobs who didnt understand what they were doing by rooting it. i mean i was a noob when i rooted but i did it the old way by dwngrading and such.
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Same here. Though I like to do things the easy way, the 1-click got many people who don't even understand what root access is nor the dangers of having root access on their phone.
I only hope that they learn the details of how to use and maintain rooted android fast
i root an unroot for meditation...
rbrahmson said:
1) So shouldn't someone post a big warning to unsuspecting users not to accept 1.6 OTA automatically?
2) Is anybody going to create an alternative one-click method. Not everyone out there (and that includes me) has the expertise to do the more complex rooting process ...
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But.... have found that certain builds lack that credentials i.e internal storage or market access for apps.... so i have found that the (holiday updates for the adp1 work the best for me!)
Not everyone will agree with me at this time, and yes ive had all the jf and cm mods on my devices, but i care more about internal storage and warranty than all that crazyniess!
And even after getting hero on my pda, i still went back to the adp1 1.6 and lost root!
Now the minute somebody figures out who to gain root after donut/1.6 applying hero wont be hard at all!
tommyinhi27 said:
But.... have found that certain builds lack that credentials i.e internal storage or market access for apps.... so i have found that the (holiday updates for the adp1 work the best for me!)
Not everyone will agree with me at this time, and yes ive had all the jf and cm mods on my devices, but i care more about internal storage and warranty than all that crazyniess!
And even after getting hero on my pda, i still went back to the adp1 1.6 and lost root!
Now the minute somebody figures out who to gain root after donut/1.6 applying hero wont be hard at all!
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Most, if not all, custom roms have 100% market access. All donut builds have support for using internal ROM for apps only. You warranty is null if you have the ADP image installed on a T-Mobile G1
ADP1.6 still has root.
We all know how to gain root after donut.
Read the stickies
First post!
Hi guys, I'm making this thread after fiddling around with the search for a while because I don't know exactly what to search for to get the answers to the questions I need answered. If anyone could link me to a thread containing these answers, I'd be eternally grateful. Please don't be mad, I'm sure the regulars have answered these a thousand times.
I live in Brazil and got my N1 through an american friend.
1- Can I root a N1 running Froyo (FRF91)?
2- If I root my phone, will I have access to paid apps? Do I pay for them with my google account somehow?
3- Will rooting my N1 screw up my ability to call folks?
4- Is there any reason to root a froyo N1? (I've been told Cyanogen's mod of 2.1 was a billion times better than the default one, but I don't think there's a 2.2 build)
Again, Sorry if these were answered somewhere else. In that case, please link me and I'll be quiet
Edit - Ugh, there's a Q&A subforum. Way to go, me.
1. Yes, I'm sure you can, but maybe not yet with the method that doesn't unlock the bootloader.
2. Yes, with MarketEnabler. You pay with a Google Checkout account.
3. No.
4. When CyanogenMod 6 comes out, for sure. Right now I have CM5.08 (2.1) and Froyo FRF83 on my N1 and I prefer Froyo to be honest. But CM6 will have 720P recording and other cool stuff.
arkain123 said:
First post!
Hi guys, I'm making this thread after fiddling around with the search for a while because I don't know exactly what to search for to get the answers to the questions I need answered. If anyone could link me to a thread containing these answers, I'd be eternally grateful. Please don't be mad, I'm sure the regulars have answered these a thousand times.
I live in Brazil and got my N1 through an american friend.
1- Can I root a N1 running Froyo (FRF91)?
2- If I root my phone, will I have access to paid apps? Do I pay for them with my google account somehow?
3- Will rooting my N1 screw up my ability to call folks?
4- Is there any reason to root a froyo N1? (I've been told Cyanogen's mod of 2.1 was a billion times better than the default one, but I don't think there's a 2.2 build)
Again, Sorry if these were answered somewhere else. In that case, please link me and I'll be quiet
Edit - Ugh, there's a Q&A subforum. Way to go, me.
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1. you can but you may have to downgrade your rom using the PASSIMG.zip method
2. Yes, you can use google checkout
3. No
4. You can theme your phone, flash custom roms, block ads on your phone, use root enabled apps, etc
some good questions and answers here! gonna bookmark this
Thank you so much, guys.
flybyme said:
1. you can but you may have to downgrade your rom using the PASSIMG.zip method
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Can this method above be used without having having to cut the battery with a razerblade?
I want to root but without unlock bootloader to keep warranty intact.
Bjur said:
Can this method above be used without having having to cut the battery with a razerblade?
I want to root but without unlock bootloader to keep warranty intact.
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well imo cutting that small tab on the battery is very easy to do and in no way affects vital battery operation. its just a separate piece of plastic.
however, some members have managed to force their sdcard in without cutting the tab, but that may cause more damage than cutting the battery if something goes wrong.
you can also either get a spare battery that doesnt have the tab or a class 6 transcend 4gb microsd.
there arent to many viable options im afraid, but the piece you cut off the battery is not really even a part of the battery. i think its just there to ensure the sd remains secure during operation
Okay thanks for the elaborating answer. I have been considering root for a long time, but the thing that will make me root right away was if FM was working, and perhaps 720p, but with the new Froyo I haven't seen arguments that should make me use costum rom yet, but if there's someone that can tell me otherwise, I would like to know
I hv been thinking about rooting for long time as well.
Currently I m on FRF91 stock, I hv read the posts in dev section and it seems the only way now is to downgrade first then upgrade afterwards. And there are so many different combination of kernels, tools, etc. which bloated my head. And in different tutorials I read ppl facing different issues. Cutting the plastic part of the battery is another obstacle (for my mind) to overcome. In some tutorials, however, I don't see this particular step as necessary, e.g.:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710351
So for now, I will keep reading and probably wait for a new tutorial for rooting stock frf91 without touching the bootlocker, and without issues...
lou2s said:
I hv been thinking about rooting for long time as well.
Currently I m on FRF91 stock, I hv read the posts in dev section and it seems the only way now is to downgrade first then upgrade afterwards. And there are so many different combination of kernels, tools, etc. which bloated my head. And in different tutorials I read ppl facing different issues. Cutting the plastic part of the battery is another obstacle (for my mind) to overcome. In some tutorials, however, I don't see this particular step as necessary, e.g.:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710351
So for now, I will keep reading and probably wait for a new tutorial for rooting stock frf91 without touching the bootlocker, and without issues...
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Well you can avoid cutting the battery if you can see your phone through ADB while in recovery. That is the most difficult part of the whole process. The rest of it is easy and takes less than 2 minutes.
If your phone shows up in adb while in recovery, your pretty much good to go. As for rooting, you really dont need to mess with any kernels or roms. You can stay stock and rooted. Thats what ive done (though i plan on moving to other roms soon enough)
The workarounds and problems for the root method without unlocking bootloader all stem from seeing your phone in recovery and the SD is what plays the major role. All other problems are because of circumstances of people not following directions or flukes.
So according to the sticky: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
The very 1st step is:
- Extract the files within "ROOT_FRF83.zip" into the "tools" directory of the extracted SDK package
While I m already on FRF91, this sounds like I m going to push something older to my phone. Am I correct?
(I stay in this thread for a reason, I m a noob in rooting )
Thanks!
well, i updated a stock european rom (EPF30)
unlocked the bootloader and was rooted. Glad
after downgrading to firmware ERD79 still rootacces
then i received by OTA build FRF91
installed without problems.
butt, no rootacces now.
searched for a working superboot for FRF91. No succes at the moment
For me it is not clear how to get full acces. ?
flybyme said:
well imo cutting that small tab on the battery is very easy to do and in no way affects vital battery operation. its just a separate piece of plastic.
however, some members have managed to force their sdcard in without cutting the tab, but that may cause more damage than cutting the battery if something goes wrong.
you can also either get a spare battery that doesnt have the tab or a class 6 transcend 4gb microsd.
there arent to many viable options im afraid, but the piece you cut off the battery is not really even a part of the battery. i think its just there to ensure the sd remains secure during operation
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I cut my battery to root my phone, and the amount you have to remove is really negligible. I don't think it even makes a difference to the security of fit of the SD card. I can get the card in, but I can't get it out with the battery in
lou2s said:
So according to the sticky: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
The very 1st step is:
- Extract the files within "ROOT_FRF83.zip" into the "tools" directory of the extracted SDK package
While I m already on FRF91, this sounds like I m going to push something older to my phone. Am I correct?
(I stay in this thread for a reason, I m a noob in rooting )
Thanks!
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As the requirements for that guide state, you must have an N1 at FRF85B or lower. It doesn't work on FRF91.
- Stuck on FRF91? Use THIS to downgrade to EPE76, then use my links to upgrade to FRF85B, FRF83, or FRF72 to complete the process.
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I need some help. I have a revolution with 2.2.2 still on the phone. due to being a noob I tried to install a gingerbread version of a rom on the phone of course It didn't seem to work. by the way i should mention I am rooted and I can not upgrade veia the phone upgrade failed every time. However in the research I have done has lead me to believe that all of the roms I want to try to get a hold of are on a non existence web sight Right now I just need anything that will get my phone back up and running. I would very much like to use the revolt Rom but again the multiupload.com is down. Can anyone help me with this. I have searched the sight but I seem to be going around in a circle.
Ok so thank you for helping me out, however, being as I am slow to understand things. I figured things out. and just so everyone else doesn't feel bad. I have no problem with people laughing at me
this may help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337386&highlight=zv4&page=1
im currently dabblin with this one since my phone is still runnin 2.2.2 as well, reverted to stock rom unrooted everything and no ota updates so this is how to do it manually.
as long as its not currently bricked otherwise u have to do it the long way. i think, unless im thinkin of my old droid... but if this doesnt help give more info and someone will be able to help
regarding OTA, does anyone know the name of the file, and what folder in which to find it? Tired of having to DL it aGAIN every time whatever I try fails. I'm guessing cache....nothing seems real obvious, like it was on my Bionic
(update, got update to complete 2nd try, MtMichaelson is slightly richer!)
Quick background info: I come from iPhone and was an avid jailbreaker. I always jailbroke my iphone's. I now come to android and have learned of this amazing thing called a "root". I am very new to the rooting scene and would like some info.
Ok, so now Im assuming that because im on xda, most people will say I should root. But I have a few questions:
1. I am currently worried about if it is possible to restore my phone or unroot it. This is because I have heard there is no kdz file for restore on the sprint variant of the lg g4. If I am wrong please correct me and tell me exactly how one would go about unrooting their phone. I would like the security of having a backup. If it is possible please link me to the file/thread.
2. Can I update my phone after it is rooted? Or do I have to restore stock image?
3. If I follow the steps to rooting my phone what are the chances of it bricking?
4. Do you think I should root if I come from jailbreaking. I loved jailbreaking and rooting seems to be similar to that, but more things your able to do. So basically would you say someone of my callibar should root?
I have already downgraded to ZV6 via LG UP and am prepared to root. I just have mainly these 4 concerns. I am especially worried about the 1st question I had. Please keep in mind I am brand new to rooting and I might be a complete idiot when you comment on something.
Last thing. If there is any info you think I should know before I dive into this please share it with me. I might be missing some crucial info.
Edit: Yes I know the title is spelled wrong
cjc2040 said:
Quick background info: I come from iPhone and was an avid jailbreaker. I always jailbroke my iphone's. I now come to android and have learned of this amazing thing called a "root". I am very new to the rooting scene and would like some info.
Ok, so now Im assuming that because im on xda, most people will say I should root. But I have a few questions:
1. I am currently worried about if it is possible to restore my phone or unroot it. This is because I have heard there is no kdz file for restore on the sprint variant of the lg g4. If I am wrong please correct me and tell me exactly how one would go about unrooting their phone. I would like the security of having a backup. If it is possible please link me to the file/thread.
2. Can I update my phone after it is rooted? Or do I have to restore stock image?
3. If I follow the steps to rooting my phone what are the chances of it bricking?
4. Do you think I should root if I come from jailbreaking. I loved jailbreaking and rooting seems to be similar to that, but more things your able to do. So basically would you say someone of my callibar should root?
I have already downgraded to ZV6 via LG UP and am prepared to root. I just have mainly these 4 concerns. I am especially worried about the 1st question I had. Please keep in mind I am brand new to rooting and I might be a complete idiot when you comment on something.
Last thing. If there is any info you think I should know before I dive into this please share it with me. I might be missing some crucial info.
Edit: Yes I know the title is spelled wrong
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As long as you are sticking with ZV6 or ZV9 or ZVA, you can at any time LGUP back to full stock. NEVER downgrade to ZV5 (Will HARD Brick), and don't upgrade to ZVB because you cannot downgrade from ZVB at this time.
Also:
You can never upgrade a phone with OTA while it is rooted.
ZV9, ZVB & ZVA do NOT have root, but there are Custom ROMS to flash over stock.
ZV6 has full root
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Agimax said:
As long as you are sticking with ZV6 or ZV9 or ZVA, you can at any time LGUP back to full stock. NEVER downgrade to ZV5 (Will HARD Brick), and don't upgrade to ZVB because you cannot downgrade from ZVB at this time.
Also:
You can never upgrade a phone with OTA while it is rooted.
ZV9, ZVB & ZVA do NOT have root, but there are Custom ROMS to flash over stock.
ZV6 has full root
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Can you supply me with the file for zv6?
cjc2040 said:
Can you supply me with the file for zv6?
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If you mean the .TOT files for ZV6, there are copies here:
http://rwilco12.com/downloads.php?dir=Files/Devices/LG G4 (LS991)/Stock ROMs
If you mean the actual ROMs (factory files), the thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-g4/development/stock-sytem-image-files-zv5-zv6-t3205640
If you mean modified stock, like my UltraPOP series, it is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-g4/development/zv6-ultrapop-rom-v1-2-ls991-g4-t3211725
and another one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-g4/development/rom-ultrapop-aospish-v1-0-ls991-g4-t3269470
If you are more precise in what you are seeking, it would be easier to help you. Everything you need has been discussed in various other threads.
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Agimax said:
If you mean the .TOT files for ZV6, there are copies here:
http://rwilco12.com/downloads.php?dir=Files/Devices/LG G4 (LS991)/Stock ROMs
If you mean the actual ROMs (factory files), the thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-g4/development/stock-sytem-image-files-zv5-zv6-t3205640
If you mean modified stock, like my UltraPOP series, it is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-g4/development/zv6-ultrapop-rom-v1-2-ls991-g4-t3211725
and another one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-g4/development/rom-ultrapop-aospish-v1-0-ls991-g4-t3269470
If you are more precise in what you are seeking, it would be easier to help you. Everything you need has been discussed in various other threads.
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I have now successfully rooted by phone for the first time! I am using you Ultrapop Rom and am super excited to explore my phone. I now have 2 more questions for you.
If I wanted to fully restore (a.k.a. No root, no rom, nothing but pure stock) i would have to repeat the process I just preformed following you instructions to install Ultrapop but instead of using the DD commands on the ultrapop file I would do it to the stock file? (I put the stock image on my phone just in case something went wrong)
Last one. If I wanted to update Ultrapop on ZV6, would I just flash the newest one over my current Ultrapop version? Or would I restore my phone to stock via the image method then reflash the newest version of ultrapop?