[Q] - Android OS high battery consumption on 4.4.4 - Moto X Q&A

Hello.
I've downgraded from 5.1 to 4.4.4 a while back, and I'm quite happy with the phone.
But, sadly, the old bugs from 4.4.4 came back as well.
The one that I'd like to solve, is the battery drain by Android OS.
I've noticed that after updating some apps, it's likely to happen. The only way to solve it, is by clearing the phone's cache (this includes a restart, of course)
It will work ok for some days, and then it would just re appear with no apparent reason.
I don't remember having this issue when I was natively at 4.4.4... That means this was not an issue at the time, or I did something to disarm the issue.
If the second one is the scenario, I don't recall what I did...
Now, I've most of Google Services disabled (no google now, or hello moto)... Only thin I use, is location at battery saving setting.
What else would I need to check?.
Phone does have a good deep sleep time.
Thanks in advance!

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Help - Phone Randomly Powering Down

Hi Everyone
Bit of help please.
Having problems over the last 20 days or so. The phone keeps powering down completely at random.
I had flashed No Root Stock Debloated/Deodexed N6 ViPER|Atmos Audiophile 1.6 and after a week the above started.
Fully wiped (including data) the N6 and re-installed from a OTG USB through TWRP. After a week the same random shut-downs began again.
Another full wipe and installed ver 1.7 from the above and within a couple of days the shutdowns started again.
Today thought a different ROM may be the answer. Full wipe and tried [MMB29U/Q][6.0.1][STOCK][OMNI][MOKEE][CMTE][LAYERS] FLUENCE HD9 and the shut-downs are still here.
Seems to be getting worse.
Not using layers or anything abnormal - nova launcher and popular apps, nothing strange. No Kernel optimizations.
Really stumped as to what I have done. Wondering if I have a HW fault rather than custom rom or apps. Going to un-root, lock the BL and give Google stock image a go, unless anyone has a suggestion.
TIA
Any water damage that you can think of? Any parts of the phone getting extremely hot?
You could try ordering a new battery, and see if that fixes the issue, as it is not a software issue.
I'm also having a similar issue, but it occurs when trying to open camera and having relatively low charges(%20). I could not pinpoint my issue exactly but generally complete shutdowns caused by battery problems(temperature, voltage, mis-feedback). Like flyeyes says it is probably a defected battery unit.
Grab some logcats or a crash message. Without them the only thing I can advise is that it is one of your apps causing it or a hardware issue.
Have you tried complete stock firmware from Google with no customizations? If so, does it happen then? If it happens on complete stock from Google you might be looking at a hardware issue. If it only happens on custom ROMS after you set them up, then it might be an inconsistency with whatever apps/changes you make to it.

downgrade from marsh. to lollipop

Guys,
I also made the mistake to upgrade from my fine working lollipop 5.1.1 to marsh-batterydrain-mallow.
I have a sony z3 compact D5803 and all I want is the following:
- install an unbranded STOCK 23.4.A.1.264 lollipop 5.0.1 firmware again (preferably a Dutch one) on a clean internal storage (so I would like to erase everything on the z3 compact).
I already looked on the forums of course, like here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/list-stock-firmwares-d5803-d5833-t2906706
But I don't see the option to completely wipe all the data including this f* marshmallow and install a clean non-rooted lollipop tutorial. Anybody here willing to help?
First of all it is not 'normal' that you battery performance is worse on MM. You may consider doing a clean flash and give it another try.
You can downgrade with the instructions in the link you indicated (do not forget to back-up your data). Actually Flashtool itself includes the links to all (?) firmwares that are available. The Nordic, US and German unbranded firmwares work well in the Netherlands (they also include the Dutch language pack). If you tick all the items inside the "Wipe" box, MM will be removed.
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Battery on MM is as good or better than LL, so if you are experiencing strange battery drain, then it's worth investigating to find the cause, rather than give up and go back to an older build.
BBS is your friend and the folks on the thread there will be happy to help with any wakelocks you don't understand.
Google Play Services is usually the culprit, have a look under settings/battery/battery usage. If Play Services is in the top 5 then that's your problem.
Problems with Google Play services are usually caused by location services or syncronisation errors on your Google account. Have you looked at your account sync status in settings? anything with an exclamation mark?
It might be something as simple as not logging into Chrome that's causing it to try and sync repeatedly, over & over, draining your battery. Turn Google sync off for a couple of days and see if the battery drain goes goes away?
Have you changed your password recently? I had this happen to me after changing my password, I had to delete my account, force stop play services, wipe data for play services, boot to recovery wipe dalvic/cache. When I rebooted phone I added account again with new password. Solved.
The location services bug seems to have disappeared since MM.
This isn't a rom problem
Well i actually don't agree. A lot of people are complaining that mm is worse than lp regarding battery life. The stamina mode in lollipop does wonderful things.
I first completely formatted my phone and then used flashtool to flash back to lp 5.1.1 and my battery life is perfect again
3ebdie said:
Well i actually don't agree. A lot of people are complaining that mm is worse than lp regarding battery life. The stamina mode in lollipop does wonderful things.
I first completely formatted my phone and then used flashtool to flash back to lp 5.1.1 and my battery life is perfect again
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Why ask for help if you're going to just give up?
I am getting 4 days between charges on my MM build.
I actually already gave up on mm before I started this thread. I wanted to get rid of mm.
Are you using mm on a sony z3 compact? How much screen-on time do you get on a full charge then? On lp I easy get 4hrs plus with heavy usage. On mm I barely managed to get 3hrs with heavy usage

WiFi Turning Off During Deep Sleep

Hi all,
Can anyone help with this issue. I can see no long discussion about it which seems to suggest it's either rare (not great) or something I am doing (probably).
My WiFi status appears to be fine throughout the day, when in regular use. I have no speed issues (connection speeds as expected for my home internet), no random drops or on/off switches and no seeming battery drain. I have all additional services on (Bluetooth, location and NFC as I want the phone to be fully functional at all times and not just 'look nice') and despite this I get what I would expect in battery life (c. 6 hrs screen on time). YET, amongst a few other problems (what is the slider customisation about - awful!) the one I can't fathom is this:
My WiFi switches off over night presumably when the phone goes into deep sleep. I have gone into the advanced settings and set it to 'Always on' but this doesn't seem to keep it 'always on'. I wake up in the morning and it is off. I was running some Tasker profiles (which seem to make little difference given the slider issue noted above) but actually my WiFi isn't one off the Tasks effected by a night time profile.
Any help would be appreciated.
AS a secondary question, I switched my VPN over to Canada as suggested and was provided with the Nougat update. I haven't yet tried it but was wondering if there are any bugs that I should consider before switching over given I am 4 days into owning this phone and still haven't ironed out certain things in Marshmallow.
Just as a follow up question, would the 'turn Doze off' option help with this? Surely I shouldn't have to do this though?
Am I the only one having this issue? That would suck. Even so, would anybody more adept at these things than me like to have a guess at solving the issue.
IV had agresive dose mode on and haven't had any wifi problems but I am on 4.0.1 so might want to just update it as it's really stable and I haven't had any issue except having to reconfigure the APN settings. PS if you do update reset you phone after as some people have said it helps with the new file system.
Greedyfly said:
Hi all,
Can anyone help with this issue. I can see no long discussion about it which seems to suggest it's either rare (not great) or something I am doing (probably).
My WiFi status appears to be fine throughout the day, when in regular use. I have no speed issues (connection speeds as expected for my home internet), no random drops or on/off switches and no seeming battery drain. I have all additional services on (Bluetooth, location and NFC as I want the phone to be fully functional at all times and not just 'look nice') and despite this I get what I would expect in battery life (c. 6 hrs screen on time). YET, amongst a few other problems (what is the slider customisation about - awful!) the one I can't fathom is this:
My WiFi switches off over night presumably when the phone goes into deep sleep. I have gone into the advanced settings and set it to 'Always on' but this doesn't seem to keep it 'always on'. I wake up in the morning and it is off. I was running some Tasker profiles (which seem to make little difference given the slider issue noted above) but actually my WiFi isn't one off the Tasks effected by a night time profile.
Any help would be appreciated.
AS a secondary question, I switched my VPN over to Canada as suggested and was provided with the Nougat update. I haven't yet tried it but was wondering if there are any bugs that I should consider before switching over given I am 4 days into owning this phone and still haven't ironed out certain things in Marshmallow.
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This happens when people is crying about updates every day. Then, when the updates are available, they update it in the first minute and again, they start crying, that they encounter bugs and stuff that doesnt work as it should, even if they dont have any idea how to revert their OS to the previous working one. People should learn how to be patient and enjoy their phones without being so greedy about updates.
Just sit tight, enjoy your phone, READ forums about latest updates and the problems encountered on that specific update ( since its still a beta update, and an early one , called Beta 1 ). If they seem to be fine with those issue, ONLY then should update to the latest one.
smilirulz said:
This happens when people is crying about updates every day. Then, when the updates are available, they update it in the first minute and again, they start crying, that they encounter bugs and stuff that doesnt work as it should, even if they dont have any idea how to revert their OS to the previous working one. People should learn how to be patient and enjoy their phones without being so greedy about updates.
Just sit tight, enjoy your phone, READ forums about latest updates and the problems encountered on that specific update ( since its still a beta update, and an early one , called Beta 1 ). If they seem to be fine with those issue, ONLY then should update to the latest one.
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I haven't 'cried' about anything, pal, so keep your unhelpful comments to yourself or help. Don't middle ground-it by offering your own personal, and incorrect, opinions.
I hadn't upgraded anything, I was running stock OS and stock marshmallow, so I had literally done nothing to my device other than switch it on and download the same apps I've been using for years.
I've also rooted several devices in the past with no issues and chime in when I can to help, but I'm not a dev and there are far more technologically gifted individuals operating in this forum which is why I sought help here... Not that I got much from you. But I'm more than capable of reading release notes and making sure I can revert backwards before installing anything.
Now to anyone still here, and with the same issue, it appears that carrying out the update to Nougat, re-adding my WiFi networks and clearing system cache solved the problem or at least for the first night. Should this change I'll update here.
ISO_Metric said:
IV had agresive dose mode on and haven't had any wifi problems but I am on 4.0.1 so might want to just update it as it's really stable and I haven't had any issue except having to reconfigure the APN settings. PS if you do update reset you phone after as some people have said it helps with the new file system.
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Hi Iso, thank you for your response, I hadn't seen this until now.
The upgrade to 4.0.1 does appear to have done the trick somewhat as it stayed on overnight without issue. I did notice it wasn't on a little later this morning but I am giving the device the benefit of the doubt on that one as I have been messing about with certain things and it's possible I or a profile in tasker switched it off.
As an aside do you recommend any other potential fixes, just to be on the safe side.
Did you factory reset after upgrading? Other than that it's probably a app you have I hear Facebook is really bad at battery
ISO_Metric said:
Did you factory reset after upgrading? Other than that it's probably a app you have I hear Facebook is really bad at battery
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I didn't factory reset, only Cache wipe after the upgrade, and as it seems ok so far, I am reluctant to factory reset the device as it took so long to set up in the first instance.
Should it start becoming an issue again I'll try it but for now...
Also I know there are backup options though I haven't found one that works flawlessly which gives me the confidence to explore this avenue just yet.
You might have to because in nuogat they optimized the file system and in order to get the new one you have to factory reset not 100% sure it affects battery life but it really affects performance, PS also try turning off gestures, ambient display and pocket mode
ISO_Metric said:
You might have to because in nuogat they optimized the file system and in order to get the new one you have to factory reset not 100% sure it affects battery life but it really affects performance, PS also try turning off gestures, ambient display and pocket mode
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Are you sure ISO? The UI has been updated and the already snappy OS feels snappier. Is there a way to tell for sure if it's required?
If so, any good recommendations for backup capability. I have used Helium to mixed results and I can't use Titanium as I have no root (and don't wish to).
Maybe not but it all elts fails

Severe battery drain October update

for 1 week the battery doesn't last a day, and I hardly use it, and I don't have thousands of apps, etc. One question can be made a reset to this phone, since at the beginning it was perfect ...
Thank you and is the same thing happening to someone?
Did you make analysis which applications use net/wifi/gps in background? issue wakelocks?
Did you check whether it is related to personal revival of infamous CPU frequency sticking bug, solved long time ago (and. if yes, did you clear Dalvik cache, etc.)?
Did you disable all unneeded apps (including pre-installed trash like Mi-Services).
Are you using battery saving mode? IMO switch it off immediately.
Did you set which applications may work in background? Having root you could also krystalize most of applications in more detailed way.
Have not you killed your battery freezing it or charging it permanently?
I am asking all this because nobody else is complains on this specific update and this specific issue in several forums I read from time-to-time (except that usually many complain on initially low battery capacity and now many complain on installation problems with this specific update).
One single app working in background and using net/wifi/gps can drain battery in a few hours.
thanks for responding, as I always have the phone only with the wifi on and the rest all off, I do not have many applications that consume battery only the WhatsApp, you can do a hard reset to this device? as it came with android one and now has android 10
cacarasa said:
..., you can do a hard reset to this device? as it came with android one and now has android 10
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Hmm, stock ROMs for MiA2 were/are Android One, versions 8.0, 8.1, 9.0, 10.0. And yes, if you did not make factory reset updating from 9.0 to 10.0, you are to make it (beware losing user data in phone and forced initial setup)

Random shut down

Mypixel 4xl sometimes randomly shuts down I think an app, may be responsible.
Ampere says my battery is good.
im bootloader unlocked running 12 beta.
but it was shutting down before 12 beta i wiped everything.
was fine for 2 weeks now its doing it again.
anyway to arrange apps by date,so i can see what may be causing this?
I would flash factory stock again and wait a while before installing any root apps. It may be hardware related, or battery connection related. Meanwhile keep an eye on battery temp. Any chance you were outside in the heat when the phone shut down? The other thing you could try would be to put it in safe mode. If it does it in safe mode it is more likely hardware.
So I have a similar problem after installing the latest security update... My phone pixel 4 xl was just fine prior, but now it will turn off randomly when the screen goes off (or is locked to turn the screen off). I can only turn the phone back on after I plug it in to a charger. Interestingly, the battery and phone will keep running and the battery will drain normally so long as I keep the screen/interaction active. Ideas? Thinking about flashing a custom ROM. This phone is stock and nothing has been done to it. I also reset to factory to see if that was the fix, but no joy. Help?
@Springcrime
If the problem remains after a factory reset, you very likely have a hardware issue. The two main battery related issues are 1) the battery connection issue (abnormal or stuck battery percentages) , and 2) the swollen battery issue (no wireless charging, back glass separation (it's not easy to see). Flashing a custom ROM will only add multiple variables that will not solve the problem over restoring the phone to factory stock like you have already. As a last ditch effort, you could flash the phone with a full image and letting it wipe (don't edit the flash-all.bat). If that doesn't fix it you probably need to starting thinking any warranty options, or repair.
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@Springcrime
If the problem remains after a factory reset, you very likely have a hardware issue. The two main battery related issues are 1) the battery connection issue (abnormal or stuck battery percentages) , and 2) the swollen battery issue (no wireless charging, back glass separation (it's not easy to see). Flashing a custom ROM will only add multiple variables that will not solve the problem over restoring the phone to factory stock like you have already. As a last ditch effort, you could flash the phone with a full image and letting it wipe (don't edit the flash-all.bat). If that doesn't fix it you probably need to starting thinking any warranty options, or repair.
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Normally I'd agree with that advice, but this literally and noticeably occured immediately after installing the latest security update. As a test, I've been running the battery down with videos, so long as I ensure I don't manually lock or turn the screen off, the battery has drained normally. No crashes or shutdowns while actively using the phone. Wireless charging works fine, and no visible swelling. Any other ideas? I joined the beta 12 program for the hell of it to see if that changes anything... Currently waiting for the push to my phone so I can download it.
Springcrime said:
So I have a similar problem after installing the latest security update... My phone pixel 4 xl was just fine prior, but now it will turn off randomly when the screen goes off (or is locked to turn the screen off). I can only turn the phone back on after I plug it in to a charger. Interestingly, the battery and phone will keep running and the battery will drain normally so long as I keep the screen/interaction active. Ideas? Thinking about flashing a custom ROM. This phone is stock and nothing has been done to it. I also reset to factory to see if that was the fix, but no joy. Help?
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Try disabling the screen lock.
Double check all security settings.
As for all updates, if the OS is running fast and stable... leave it be.
Pie and above are pretty secure unless you do something stupid. As you can see a malware forced factory reset be less trouble than an update induced one. In 7 years of using mostly outdated android OS's never once did I need to do a factory reset because of malware.
My current Pie load is over a year old running fast and stable. It hasn't been updated in over 1.5 years... and it won't be.
It's impossible to get BH to install the latest ROM, and even I don't wanna judging from Google crappy OTA updates.
I only update for security not anything else though.
blackhawk said:
Try disabling the screen lock.
Double check all security settings.
As for all updates, if the OS is running fast and stable... leave it be.
Pie and above are pretty secure unless you do something stupid. As you can see a malware forced factory reset be less trouble than an update induced one. In 7 years of using mostly outdated android OS's never once did I need to do a factory reset because of malware.
My current Pie load is over a year old running fast and stable. It hasn't been updated in over 1.5 years... and it won't be.
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So far so good on the screen lock. I wonder if it has anything to do with the facial recognition feature (which I enabled at the same time after the update). We'll see how this goes!
Springcrime said:
So far so good on the screen lock. I wonder if it has anything to do with the facial recognition feature (which I enabled at the same time after the update). We'll see how this goes!
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Meh, play with it. Usually you'll figure out what's going on... they are complicated little devils.

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