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As the title states, just wondering what the holdup is on us getting AOSP Roms seeing as how we currently have root and custom recovery. Thanks in advance to any who attempt to answer this question!
Ghstudent said:
As the title states, just wondering what the holdup is on us getting AOSP Roms seeing as how we currently have root and custom recovery. Thanks in advance to any who attempt to answer this question!
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Well our bootloader is locked. You need custom Kernals for anything other than TouchWiz ROMS.
I have seen some pretty close to AOSP roms with the right dev but we will NEVER have AOSP roms on this phone.
Only if Samsung had it like HTC's website for the M8. They have the option to unlock their bootloaders. SMH
Samsung, Verizon, and At&t are losing customers / sells due to this BS
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Well our bootloader is locked. You need custom Kernals for anything other than TouchWiz ROMS.
I have seen some pretty close to AOSP roms with the right dev but we will NEVER have AOSP roms on this phone.
Only if Samsung had it like HTC's website for the M8. They have the option to unlock their bootloaders. SMH
Samsung, Verizon, and At&t are losing customers / sells due to this BS
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Don't we always have this problem with carrier branded phones and the developers always find a way around it? I recall having issues like this all the way back to the S2, but I eventually got AOSP ROMs on it.
Ghstudent said:
Don't we always have this problem with carrier branded phones and the developers always find a way around it? I recall having issues like this all the way back to the S2, but I eventually got AOSP ROMs on it.
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Times have changed. Its sucks I know. Started with the Note 3 for me.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Times have changed. Its sucks I know. Started with the Note 3 for me.
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So there is absolutely no way that AT&T will unlock the boot loader?
Ghstudent said:
So there is absolutely no way that AT&T will unlock the boot loader?
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I doubt it bro. I was waiting for it to happen with the Note 3 and it never did.
Note 2 > Awesome. Miss it
Note 3 > GPS issues and Locked bootloader.
S 5 > Laggy, Slow, Locked Bootloader.
S 5 Active > Awesome. Locked Bootloader.
I want the M8 to try out now. HTC is actually making money and sells are going up. HTC is on to something
Samsung, SMH. Starting to disappoint me now. From the Note 3 to this phone has been sucky.
This Active is my last Samsung device on At&t.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
I doubt it bro. I was waiting for it to happen with the Note 3 and it never did.
Note 2 > Awesome. Miss it
Note 3 > GPS issues and Locked bootloader.
S 5 > Laggy, Slow, Locked Bootloader.
S 5 Active > Awesome. Locked Bootloader.
I want the M8 to try out now. HTC is actually making money and sells are going up. HTC is on to something
Samsung, SMH. Starting to disappoint me now. From the Note 3 to this phone has been sucky.
This Active is my last Samsung device on At&t.
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If your interested I have started an online petition to get the bootloader unlocked. Maybe, maybe not. But I think it's worth a shot. Petition is linked to att c.e.o. Randall stephenson. Here's a link
https://www.change.org/petitions/att-give-us-the-freedom-to-modify-and-build-unlock-our-bootloaders
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GDofWR420 said:
If your interested I have started an online petition to get the bootloader unlocked. Maybe, maybe not. But I think it's worth a shot. Petition is linked to att c.e.o. Randall stephenson. Here's a link
https://www.change.org/petitions/att-give-us-the-freedom-to-modify-and-build-unlock-our-bootloaders
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Thanks. We did one for the Note 3 too and got it up really high. Thousands of people helped out.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Thanks. We did one for the Note 3 too and got it up really high. Thousands of people helped out.
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Hopefully persistence will pay off
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With big red's habit of keeping their users from actually customizing their devices, would it be safe to assume that they are going to lock the bootloader on the nexus 6 just like they did with my gorgeous - but bone stock - GS5? (SM-G900V)
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To be honest, I am scared of Verizons evil deeds, but I can see Google putting up a fight for too much carrier customization. At worst, maybe sim locked and a Verizon logo. Same thing as ATT did, but that's why u get the unlocked version from the Play store, Motorola, Sprint, or T-Mobile.
but that's why u get the unlocked version from the Play store, Motorola, Sprint, or T-Mobile.
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- TRUE
Of course, I'm on a federal vzw plan at work, which means unlimited data, (which i ain't about to give up) and means vzw retail devices, straight from big red..... Doh!
Bone stock galaxy s5? A bit of an oxymoron.
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illushinz said:
With big red's habit of keeping their users from actually customizing their devices, would it be safe to assume that they are going to lock the bootloader on the nexus 6 just like they did with my gorgeous - but bone stock - GS5? (SM-G900V)
Thx!
~illushinz
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No. If the bootloader couldn't easily be unlocked, it wouldn't be a Nexus. It would be a Droid Turdo.
illushinz said:
With big red's habit of keeping their users from actually customizing their devices, would it be safe to assume that they are going to lock the bootloader on the nexus 6 just like they did with my gorgeous - but bone stock - GS5? (SM-G900V)
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~illushinz
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But there has been no word that they will really get one...and if so not soon
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Bone stock galaxy s5? A bit of an oxymoron.
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Lol, quite true
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I too am beginning to wonder if they are going to even get it.
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With big red's habit of keeping their users from actually customizing their devices, would it be safe to assume that they are going to lock the bootloader on the nexus 6 just like they did with my gorgeous - but bone stock - GS5? (SM-G900V)
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~illushinz
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Yes, they most certainly will lock the bootloader
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To be honest, I am scared of Verizons evil deeds, but I can see Google putting up a fight for too much carrier customization. At worst, maybe sim locked and a Verizon logo. Same thing as ATT did, but that's why u get the unlocked version from the Play store, Motorola, Sprint, or T-Mobile.
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VZW doesn't SIM lock devices anymore.
They will, however, encrypt bootloaders.
Not a snowball's chance in hell that the bootloader will be locked.
Mark this post and come back and thank it when you see I'm right. I'll donate money to charity if I'm wrong.
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Yes, they most certainly will lock the bootloader
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But it will be unlockable easily.
Ordered from moto. Popped in Sim from Verizon. Unlocked and rooted. F big red
bmwh0r3 said:
Ordered from moto. Popped in Sim from Verizon. Unlocked and rooted. F big red
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Got mine from best buy. Same thing - Sim in and away I went.
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Man I wish I wasn't locked into big red......
~illushinz
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It's hopeless
Mark MY words and come back to it and if I'm wrong I will donate to charity. The Nexus 6 will NOT be coming to Verizon. They will release a very very similar phone all marked up with Verizon labels with some type of "Droid" branding called the super duper turbo that will indeed have a locked bootloader and all sorts of bloat ware crap strung throughout the Motorola skinned app drawer... sorry I'm just a bitter Verizon customer stuck in a harsh reality!
If you can afford it, buy from google or Motorola. Slap in a nano Sim card from Verizon. It works. Got my nexus Thursday and swapped the Sim out of my moto x. Been using it since. Sold my moto x along with my note 3. Downloaded youmail and unsubscribed from Verizon visual voicemail.
I don't see why it would be locked. The Galaxy Nexus wasn't. I'm so glad my Galaxy Nexus SIM card works on the nsix. Lol with a serious trimming down...
illushinz said:
Man I wish I wasn't locked into big red......
~illushinz
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you can't buy it on your own from moto or play? i did and dropped my VZW sim from the moto x in it and it works great !
illushinz said:
Man I wish I wasn't locked into big red......
~illushinz
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I got my N6 directly from Moto and popped in my VZW sim without a hitch.
I'll say this... I used my OnePlus on TMobile for 6 months and their network is TRASH in comparison. This was after a summer of traveling around the U.S., traveling for work, and a few driving getaways. If TMo works in your neighborhood and you never leave it, then more power to you. If not, I'm here to tell you, VZW may be a-holes when it comes to devices but their network is no joke. Don't suffer from "the grass-is-greener" syndrome.
Is there anyone else who will get their Nexus 6 from Verizon? I will give it a try for a couple of weeks assuming I can easily root and install a custom recovery.
Nope. Got mine months ago and am already using it on Verizon.
I know I am wayyy late but there must be a person or two who will buy it.
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I know I am wayyy late but there must be a person or two who will buy it.
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Safe to say multiple people will buy it. Not sure what the point of this is?
I just changed my mind about getting this phone and wondered how many on Verizon will be doing the same.
ronaldheld said:
I just changed my mind about getting this phone and wondered how many on Verizon will be doing the same.
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I will be getting it. I doubt it will be locked down as bad as their Samsung devices.
Since it is a Nexus device we won't have to worry about kernels and locked bootloaders.
johnciaccio said:
I will be getting it. I doubt it will be locked down as bad as their Samsung devices.
Since it is a Nexus device we won't have to worry
Anyone see this, as it concerns me: http://rootzwiki.com/news/verizon-might-allow-unlock-nexus-6-bootloader-just-crazy/
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ronaldheld said:
johnciaccio said:
I will be getting it. I doubt it will be locked down as bad as their Samsung devices.
Since it is a Nexus device we won't have to worry
Anyone see this, as it concerns me: http://rootzwiki.com/news/verizon-might-allow-unlock-nexus-6-bootloader-just-crazy/
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4 month old opinion article on a dead website.
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ronaldheld said:
4 month old opinion article on a dead website.
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This is true, but we know how Verizon likes to lock up their phones. I am more optimistic than a few hours ago.
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i dont like verizon, so ill never be on verizon, but fastboot oem unlock IS a nexus feature, introduced to us through the nexus one and every nexus after. while verizons version can be sim locked, all nexus come with an unlockable bootloader, even if the provider doesnt like it. and im pretty sure that this fact wont change. heck, im pretty sure the att version would have had a locked bootloader, if they were allowed to add that in.
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i dont like verizon, so ill never be on verizon, but fastboot oem unlock IS a nexus feature, introduced to us through the nexus one and every nexus after. while verizons version can be sim locked, all nexus come with an unlockable bootloader, even if the provider doesnt like it. and im pretty sure that this fact wont change. heck, im pretty sure the att version would have had a locked bootloader, if they were allowed to add that in.[/QUOTEI am only slightly concerned.
Verizon tends to be pretty good about upgrades and such which is why I am with them.
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Except for the locked phones I am reasonable satisfied with Verizon.
Hi All,
Can someone PLEASE explain me howcome the Exynos variant's bootloader is unlockable while his Snapdragon counterpart is not? was it made in purpose from Samsung's side?
Is this bootloader unlocking of the Snapdragon variant is "dead end" 100% and he who wants custom recovery (TWRP) on Note 8 should obtain ONLY the Exynos variant ?
Thank you very much
Yes its dead it wont happen
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Yes its dead it wont happen
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Alright then I'll sell my SM-N950U1 and purchase a new Android based phone that has a custom recovery option in XDA.
Any suggestions? does the note 8 has the best specs?
I'm changing to htc
rpz79 said:
Alright then I'll sell my SM-N950U1 and purchase a new Android based phone that has a custom recovery option in XDA.
Any suggestions? does the note 8 has the best specs?
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So you purchased a $1000 phone... without understanding the limitations?
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So you purchased a $1000 phone... without understanding the limitations?
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Facepalm
myechophone said:
So you purchased a $1000 phone... without understanding the limitations?
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Unfortunately yes
This is my 2nd note and 4th galaxy
I only had Samsung's and they all were fully rooted with custom recovery.
This is the first and last time I buy cell phone with a locked bootloader i.e doesn't have TWRP option.
I don't need much TWRP as I need Xposed (although NAND backup could be very useful) but it seems they have a correlation.
I will sell this phone and buy the Exynos variant.
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Unfortunately yes
This is my 2nd note and 4th galaxy
I only had Samsung's and they all were fully rooted with custom recovery.
This is the first and last time I buy cell phone with a locked bootloader i.e doesn't have TWRP option.
I don't need much TWRP as I need Xposed (although NAND backup could be very useful) but it seems they have a correlation.
I will sell this phone and buy the Exynos variant.
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Yeah that's the best thing you could do. Honestly rooting and roms dien breed unfortunately. It hurts me to say that I am a die hard fan of it. I knew my model didn't have the best for root before I bought. Phone has the most sought after features.
I mean look at apple even copying a lot of samsung. That says something. I got my model because my carrier offered a more affordable payment plan then samsung. Once One plus catches up with samsung features that will be the phone to buy for sure.
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Once One plus catches up with samsung features that will be the phone to buy for sure.
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Unfortunately it will cost just as much if not more.....
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Unfortunately it will cost just as much if not more.....
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Samsung vast amount of features with one plus vast root/rom community= Dream come true and take my 1k please.
Nick216ohio said:
Samsung vast amount of features with one plus vast root/rom community= Dream come true and take my 1k please.
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Only if they stay true to the developement community.
Samsung used to be happy to support the developement community too, they had active representatives on our forums and every time a new phone came out, the new apps and feature that had been created here were suddenly incorporated into the new "Official Firmware"...
They even poached devs to work for them..
Then came KNOX and the end of Samsung support, though they do still seem to look for ideas to incorporate into their firmware for the latest devices at the best price to them, free...
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Only if they stay true to the developement community.
Samsung used to be happy to support the developement community too, they had active representatives on our forums and every time a new phone came out, the new apps and feature that had been created here were suddenly incorporated into the new "Official Firmware"...
They even poached devs to work for them..
Then came KNOX and the end of Samsung support, though they do still seem to look for ideas to incorporate into their firmware for the latest devices at the best price to them, free...
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That is definitely true. I remember having galaxy 1,2,3 and it was Rom heaven. I don't see One Plus going that route though. They started from the gate with Rom openness and listening.
I definitely think it's wrong how all the big phone makers turned there back on Rom community. Most of the great features phones have now days is because of developers. Then constraint that wtf?
No one have yet to explain why the Exynos variant has an unlocked bootloader.
Was is it deliberate by Samsung i.e lock the Snapdragon BL and unlock the Exynos BL ?
or was it through an effort of the XDA community to unlock it?
Im happy without root. Since we can do so many tweaks woth ADB and we also have apps. Like disconnet pro or adhell which only works on samsung phones to remove ads on apps. (Hate those vpn software like blokada adguard etc). Other things like getting spotify apps free ads. Youtube app free ads can all be found here if u look for it. Not sure why i would need root now.
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No one have yet to explain why the Exynos variant has an unlocked bootloader.
Was is it deliberate by Samsung i.e lock the Snapdragon BL and unlock the Exynos BL ?
or was it through an effort of the XDA community to unlock it?
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Has a lot to do with Carriers and Manufacturers.
Greed-
Choking innovation-
Little bit of security-
They know Roms can prolong the life of a phone and have features that the next device has. Of course they want you to buy over priced products every year.
Basically Androids turning into Apple. Google this if you will. Apple charges $1k for iphone x, yet only costs them $357 to make. That's incredible greedy returns.
Most of us at XDA know all this, but what can we do? We just say screw it and buy atleast the best android phone. You want root/rom? Stick to international/manufactured versions. Also make sure that international version has bootloader Unlock. Best bet is OnePlus latest phone for Root/Roms experience.
Alternatively can they not produce a "developer" edition of the Note 8 with no Knox at all and no locked bootloader?
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Stick to international/manufactured versions. Best bet is OnePlus latest phone for Root/Roms experience.
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I thought I bought an international one the SM-N950U1 is carrier unlocked. The irony is that I bought in the US to spare 100-200$ but where I currently live they sell the Exynos variant.
It's such a shame they (Samsung) doesn't give us the option to choose if want Knox or not. I'll try to sell my phone and buy a rootable with unlocked bootloader phone the Exynos variant is a possibility. They lost me as a devoted customer I can tell you.
Anyhow from what I understand the Exynos variant had an unlocked bootloader in the first place. No one had to nothing to unlock it.
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Alternatively can they not produce a "developer" edition of the Note 8 with no Knox at all and no locked bootloader?
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Alternatively can they not produce a "developer" edition of the Note 8 with no Knox at all and no locked bootloader?
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Exynos only option. They won't do that because they hate unlocked bootloaders. I am amazed international version has unlocked bootloaders. Probably because they can't it's not carrier locked. Legal reasons as well guessing. Sure that pisses off the manufactures, lol @ them.
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I thought I bought an international one the SM-N950U1 is carrier unlocked. The irony is that I bought in the US to spare 100-200$ but where I currently live they sell the Exynos variant.
It's such a shame they (Samsung) doesn't give us the option to choose if want Knox or not. I'll try to sell my phone and buy a rootable with unlocked bootloader phone the Exynos variant is a possibility. They lost me as a devoted customer I can tell you.
Anyhow from what I understand the Exynos variant had an unlocked bootloader in the first place. No one had to nothing to unlock it.
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It's not just Samsung bro. Pretty much all of them do it. Like I said before always stick to international with phones for unlocked bootloaders. Gotta find which version is bootloader unlocked 1st. Because you get screwed like you did. Especially if you care about root/roms. I myself knew I'd be screwed before even buying snapdragon Note 8. But carrier had best affordable payment plans.
$200 down and $20 month. Plus able to jump to new phone anytime. Hard to say no to that. This phone pricing ability due to carrier and packed features. Made it easy to over look root/rom. I miss Roms dearly though. Idc what anyone says Roms poop on ANY stock.
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Exynos only option. They won't do that because they hate unlocked bootloaders. I am amazed international version has unlocked bootloaders. Probably because they can't it's not carrier locked. Legal reasons as well guessing. Sure that pisses off the manufactures, lol @ them.
It's not just Samsung bro. Pretty much all of them do it. Like I said before always stick to international with phones for unlocked bootloaders. Especially if you care about root/roms. I myself knew I'd be screwed before even buying snapdragon Note 8. But carrier had best affordable payment plans.
$200 down and $20 month. Plus able to jump to new phone anytime. Hard to say no to that. This phone pricing ability due to carrier and packed features. Made it easy to over look root/rom. I miss Roms dearly though. Idc what anyone says Roms poop on ANY stock.
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Last Note with unlocked bootloader was the T Mobile Note 3 I owned.
I'm happy with stock N8 on tmo. Lots of "stuff" already can be done. I also use Substratum.
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Limeybastard said:
Last Note with unlocked bootloader was the T Mobile Note 3 I owned.
I'm happy with stock N8 on tmo. Lots of "stuff" already can be done. I also use Substratum.
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Roms have come a long way since Note 3 lol. Not try sound like a smart AO to you. But when was last time used a Rom? Bro for example Res remix is breathtaking with the features. My last phone had that Rom. Made stock look like a welfare case.
Not going to lie Samsung does have best stock IMO out of other stock androids.
Ok so I have read some stuff that claims if I buy the unlocked Note 9 on best buy's website that my service with at&t will be inferior compared to a note I would have bought through their payment plan BS. Despite both having identical hardware and both being on the same service plan.
Is this true? Is there a easy way around it?
If not, what carriers do not do this?
Because for the past 2 years I have been using an unlocked axon 7, and lately I have noticed the service quality severely drop, and if this is the game AT&T wants to play then I will just move to another carrier and get a better promotion.
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Ok so I have read some stuff that claims if I buy the unlocked Note 9 on best buy's website that my service with at&t will be inferior compared to a note I would have bought through their payment plan BS. Despite both having identical hardware and both being on the same service plan.
Is this true? Is there a easy way around it?
If not, what carriers do not do this?
Because for the past 2 years I have been using an unlocked axon 7, and lately I have noticed the service quality severely drop, and if this is the game AT&T wants to play then I will just move to another carrier and get a better promotion.
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Going by the unlocked note 8 series on t mobile. I think most functionality works with their Network out of the box.
I'm currently using a unlocked N9 on Sprint, out of the box Rich communication text doesn't work nor does HD calling. Also the damn camera shutter sound cannot be muted lol.
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reluttr said:
Ok so I have read some stuff that claims if I buy the unlocked Note 9 on best buy's website that my service with at&t will be inferior compared to a note I would have bought through their payment plan BS. Despite both having identical hardware and both being on the same service plan.
Is this true? Is there a easy way around it?
If not, what carriers do not do this?
Because for the past 2 years I have been using an unlocked axon 7, and lately I have noticed the service quality severely drop, and if this is the game AT&T wants to play then I will just move to another carrier and get a better promotion.
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I read something similar about using an unlocked version on on T-Mobile but I have had no issues so far. Some people were saying that the carrier versions will fully support all bands but the unlocked ones may not. If worst comes to worst you can just flash carrier firmware on your unlocked version and you'll be good to go.
It's not about the model, it's about the firmware. Regardless of reflashing or outright buying an unlocked firmware, the network detects this.
The result is loss of all network-propriety functions, including: WiFi calling, VoLTE, and other features.
If you don't care about them, power to ya.
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I read something similar about using an unlocked version on on T-Mobile but I have had no issues so far. Some people were saying that the carrier versions will fully support all bands but the unlocked ones may not. If worst comes to worst you can just flash carrier firmware on your unlocked version and you'll be good to go.
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Amen Rev. As you mentioned, one can flash the appropriate firmware.
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I have unlocked note 9 on AT&T.
Some tests:
volte provisioned - false ...
video calling provisioned - false ...
wifi calling provisioned - false ...
EAB/Presence provisioned - false
Staff unable to turn them on on their end.
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I have unlocked note 9 on AT&T.
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video calling provisioned - false ...
wifi calling provisioned - false ...
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Thanks for the feedback.
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It's not about the model, it's about the firmware. Regardless of reflashing or outright buying an unlocked firmware, the network detects this.
The result is loss of all network-propriety functions, including: WiFi calling, VoLTE, and other features.
If you don't care about them, power to ya.
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Not sure about AT&T but on TMO, WIFI calling works on my Unlocked N9.
Carriers probably hate when you use unlocked phones because that's money lost for them. So they may make it seem like you're losing something.
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Not sure about AT&T but on TMO, WIFI calling works on my Unlocked N9.
Carriers probably hate when you use unlocked phones because that's money lost for them. So they may make it seem like you're losing something.
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TMo sends their HD voice protocol/implementation to Google so it's "baked" into the phone. ATT chooses to be private.
ATT sucks for unlocked devices.
not only do the mentioned services not work, the reception also sucks compared to att branded phones. i have multiple iphones and last gen galaxy phones such as the S8, they all perform very well compared to my unlocked note 9.
i think i'm going to return my note 9 to bestbuy and get it exchanged for ATT branded one.
i can then carrier unlock from att.
unless i switch to Tmobile, no more unlocked devices for me.
it's 2018 and i gotta dial my voicemail on my note 9, what a piece of crap
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It's not about the model, it's about the firmware. Regardless of reflashing or outright buying an unlocked firmware, the network detects this.
The result is loss of all network-propriety functions, including: WiFi calling, VoLTE, and other features.
If you don't care about them, power to ya.
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Wifi calling and voLTE work on T-Mobile on unlocked devices works on my Note 9 works on my Oneplus 6 so it's not firmware based it's all up to the carrier
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ATT sucks for unlocked devices.
not only do the mentioned services not work, the reception also sucks compared to att branded phones. i have multiple iphones and last gen galaxy phones such as the S8, they all perform very well compared to my unlocked note 9.
i think i'm going to return my note 9 to bestbuy and get it exchanged for ATT branded one.
i can then carrier unlock from att.
unless i switch to Tmobile, no more unlocked devices for me.
it's 2018 and i gotta dial my voicemail on my note 9, what a piece of crap
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I haven't had that issue on AT&T out west . HD calling and stuff doesn't work, but download speed is just the same as it was a carrier branded phone.
Also why not flash the AT&T firmware, instead of returning the phone?
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Keep in mind that if you DO buy the unlocked version, you can flash AT&T's firmware on there for the full experience. You just won't have to deal with AT&T's incompetant SIM Unlock team if you ever leave (or sell it).
nuclearrage said:
I haven't had that issue on AT&T out west . HD calling and stuff doesn't work, but download speed is just the same as it was a carrier branded phone.
Also why not flash the AT&T firmware, instead of returning the phone?
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entropism said:
Keep in mind that if you DO buy the unlocked version, you can flash AT&T's firmware on there for the full experience. You just won't have to deal with AT&T's incompetant SIM Unlock team if you ever leave (or sell it).
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i've been trying to flash ATT firmware with this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/stock-official-attodinn960usqu1arg9-t3828691
no luck, seems the file is corrupt.
i know i can download official ATT stock firmware from sammobile.com.
but here;s the question:
every single usa version of the phone has the bootloader locked and safestrap does not work in oreo 8.1 as far as i'm concerned.
how do i flash this into my note9?
nycalex said:
ATT sucks for unlocked devices.
not only do the mentioned services not work, the reception also sucks compared to att branded phones. i have multiple iphones and last gen galaxy phones such as the S8, they all perform very well compared to my unlocked note 9.
i think i'm going to return my note 9 to bestbuy and get it exchanged for ATT branded one.
i can then carrier unlock from att.
unless i switch to Tmobile, no more unlocked devices for me.
it's 2018 and i gotta dial my voicemail on my note 9, what a piece of crap
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just flash the official ATT firmware. That's what I did and got all the ATT features
fbauto1 said:
just flash the official ATT firmware. That's what I did and got all the ATT features
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Hate to sound like an idiot but is flashing hard to do? I have had note phones since the note 2 and have always bought carrier branded phones but thinking of jumping on unlocked version this time.
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No flashing isn't hard. I have not done it for a while. Just make sure to read a few threads on it. Make sure you're using the latest method as some details can change and of course RTFM more than once and all the details. And if you're uncertain don't be a guinea pig and wait until some veterans verify the process. Soft bricking is possible and unbricking can be impossible for the technologically inclined. I forgot what phone, I think it was actually Galaxy Tab S2 I thought I hard bricked. Took me a couple days to get it back to functioning. There are many stories this some worse than mine.
fbauto1 said:
just flash the official ATT firmware. That's what I did and got all the ATT features
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could you kindly inform me on how to do this?
is it even possible to flash in my unlocked note 9? aren't all usa version bootloader locked?
how did you flash yours?
thank you for the help
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No flashing isn't hard. I have not done it for a while. Just make sure to read a few threads on it. Make sure you're using the latest method as some details can change and of course RTFM more than once and all the details. And if you're uncertain don't be a guinea pig and wait until some veterans verify the process. Soft bricking is possible and unbricking can be impossible for the technologically inclined. I forgot what phone, I think it was actually Galaxy Tab S2 I thought I hard bricked. Took me a couple days to get it back to functioning. There are many stories this some worse than mine.
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Thanks, will check into it. Still on the fence with getting unlocked ATT phone. Someone in another forum said he has bought two unlocked Samsung's for ATT and both had issues staying on LTE. But he hadn't flashed ATT firmware .. He was in low signal area so don't know if he was just unlucky or what...
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Rsmin said:
Hate to sound like an idiot but is flashing hard to do? I have had note phones since the note 2 and have always bought carrier branded phones but thinking of jumping on unlocked version this time.
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nycalex said:
could you kindly inform me on how to do this?
is it even possible to flash in my unlocked note 9? aren't all usa version bootloader locked?
how did you flash yours?
thank you for the help
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I also have a US unlocked n9, which i got directly from Samsung.
Here, there's a guide in
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/SM-N960U1/ATT/download/N960U1UEU1ARH2/231817/
You can either download the firmware from the link above, or from Venom's ATT thread. Either way, if you want the latest , just flash either, then trigger OTA. That's what I did. Now I'm on latest official ATT fw in my US unlocked n9.
And no, you don't need an unlocked bootloader for this. Will NOT trip know since these are OFFICIAL firmwares.