Hello,
I would like to try an official S-View case (the one with a small window up top, NOT the clear-view case), but I don't understand how it works with the Always-On Display. The Always-On display moves up and down the screen to prevent burn-in, but sometimes it seems to be displayed lower than the S-View window, which would defeat the purpose if the S-View case does not modify its behavior.
Does anyone have this case and used it with the Always-On Display ? Are there any moments when the display text is displayed outside of the S-View window and thus not visible ?
Thanks !
Not using one but plan to get it. I'd imagine always on display will be unavailable with the s-view cover or the clear view cover for that matter.
Always On Display is not available when you use Clear View Cover.
I have the S-View Cover and the Always On Display function does not work with it. I'm thinking about getting the LED flip cover.
Thanks everyone. It seems that many people on other forums are also upset that the always-on display does not work with the case, and not even with the Clear View case ! Another proof (combined with the quite high battery drain and lack of full notification display) that the Always-On Display was an afterthought from Samsung, they didn't plan it from the beginning. Hopefully a software update addresses these issues, until then I can't see the reason to get one of these cases.
I love this case..the led view is hard plastic and this one, all though fake, feels like leather.
No always on, but I don't care. The ability to take pics cover open, closed or folded over is fantastic. Also see all the notifications without opening. Had one on my note 4 and I'll get one on note6 or s8.
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Hi guys,
Just got my case cover for the Nexus 6 from google play.
Nice cover overall, but just discover that when i open the cover the screen turn on, if i put the cover back, screen turn off.
Not so bad, but i really like the save battery of ambiant display, i would have prefer to have ambiant display when i open the cover.
Anyone know if i can force the use of ambiant display or disable the screen on when the cover is open ?
Thank you in advance for your help.
mav54fr said:
Hi guys,
Just got my case cover for the Nexus 6 from google play.
Nice cover overall, but just discover that when i open the cover the screen turn on, if i put the cover back, screen turn off.
Not so bad, but i really like the save battery of ambiant display, i would have prefer to have ambiant display when i open the cover.
Anyone know if i can force the use of ambiant display or disable the screen on when the cover is open ?
Thank you in advance for your help.
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This is normal behaviour when you have a cover with a magnet in it. I'm not aware of any way to circumvent it.
Yep i know. But it will be so much better if it can turn on the ambient display and not the full screen
Damit, just discover that magnetic cover dont work well with the nexus 6.
It seems it's not only the one sell by google play (case mate stand folio) but other case too.
The screen turn off the the cover is flip on the screen, but soon after the screen turn on again, with result of a very fast battery use, 50% in 4 hours.
Guess i'll ask a refound ASAP.
Anyway this thread doesn't have any meaning now, it can be close.
I found out that whenever a magnet is close to the screen (like the ones to be found in auto wake/sleep smart covers ) the screen will go off, as it should, but wakes up again after 10 seconds.
It will keep doing that forever: wake up, sleep due to inactivity, wake up, sleep, etc etc. It is obvious that the magnet is somehow triggering the screen to wake up.
You can easily reproduce this by placing a white board magnet on the device (place it between the hours and minutes of the lockscreen clock). Just wait and see what happens.
This means that you are certain to drain your battery when your phone is idle, sitting in a smart cover like the official one from Casemate.
I would love to use the smart wake, it worked flawlessly on the Nexus 5 but works only as a battery drainer on the N6
Is there anything that can be done about it? or is it a hardware issue?
plaktoets said:
I found out that whenever a magnet is close to the screen (like the ones to be found in auto wake/sleep smart covers ) the screen will go off, as it should, but wakes up again after 10 seconds.
It will keep doing that forever:
Is there anything that can be done about it? or is it a hardware issue?
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The magnet sensor of the N6 is under the M logo at the back.
When there is a magnet on the M or there above on the display the screen is switched off. And stays off, but . . . a weak magnet that moves a bit away may cause the problem you described.
The magnet sensor cannot be disabled (could not find an app). The solution is to remove the magnet from the cover.
BTW this may occur also with a (belt) case that has a magnet closure. That closure must be about 1 cm from the M logo.
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The magnet sensor of the N6 is under the M logo at the back.
When there is a magnet on the M or there above on the display the screen is switched off. And stays off, but . . . a weak magnet that moves a bit away may cause the problem you described.
The magnet sensor cannot be disabled (could not find an app). The solution is to remove the magnet from the cover.
BTW this may occur also with a (belt) case that has a magnet closure. That closure must be about 1 cm from the M logo.
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Thats interesting, i didnt know the sensor as at the back. When i place the magnet there, the behavior is different. It does not go on entirely, instead it goes to ambient display. But not consistently... Weird.
Anyway i purchased some cheap neodyium magnets from eBay that are supposed to be quite strong, maybe that will have the desired effect. I plan to attach them to my spigen cover.
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Anyway i purchased some cheap neodyium magnets from eBay that are supposed to be quite strong, maybe that will have the desired effect. I plan to attach them to my spigen cover.
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If you want to be sure that the magnet sensor is active (screen off) you need probably more magnets.
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If you want to be sure that the magnet sensor is active (screen off) you need probably more magnets.
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That's OK, they come in ten
I've observed this too. I wrote a Tasker app to sound a notification everytime the screen turned on (since my casemate flip case was closed) just to prove I wasn't crazy. mine turns on with every magnet (auto sleep) case I've tried. this is with stock software.
after posting about this issue in one of the case threads in the nexus 6 accessories forum, it turned out not everyone experienced this issue. or at least they didn't know they did.
I just wanna know how Google can even sell the casemate case in the play store when this issue exists (at least for some)...
Xposed has a module that turns off the magnetic sensor. I have no idea if it works or not so look at the thread for it. My phone is naked so I don't have this problem.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621807
No software yet to disable the magnet sensor
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Xposed has a module that turns off the magnetic sensor. I have no idea if it works or not so look at the thread for it. My phone is naked so I don't have this problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621807
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On the hard cover I mounted a small round metal plate (glue) at the same height as the M-logo at the back.
I did choose that place, because it is above the coil for wireless charging.
But. . . . the problem is that exactly there the magnet sensor is located.
So when the N6 was mounted at the neodymium magnet, the screen becomes black.
The first thing I tried is to disable the magnetic sensor with the xposed-module. Unfortunately is does not work on the N6 with Lollipop.
Xposed need to be updated.
My hardware solution is to glue the metal plate on the cover, about 1 cm below the M-logo. And then wireless charging is not possible (metal becomes hot).
I am using at the moment two ultra thin covers for the N6. One with metal for car use and another original to allow wireless charging.
Same problem with the official case mate cover, it is useless. I pulled mine from a shelf this week wondering why I wasn't using it, two days later "ahh, now I remember...". One of the many reasons I don't like this phone. Generally, Motorola does a nice job but when they don't, the phones are real duds. At least this problem is better than those with the screen protectors keeping the screen off when you make a call.
Someone mentioned a fix using gravity box for the ambient display activating in a pocket and causing phone calls and texts inadvertently; I think it was setting to keep the screen off if the proximity sensor was active, like in a pocket. It would probably work for this problem too.
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. . . a fix using gravity box for the ambient display activating in a pocket and causing phone calls and texts inadvertently.
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When a magnet stays close enough to the M-logo there is no problem. But most leather cases are flexible. Little movings will continuously activate and deactivate the magnet sensor. So the screen is frequently tuned on.
We need a software solution that turns the magnet sensor completely off.
In the meantime you need to remove the magnet from the case/cover and replace it with Velcro.
In some types of cases the magnet is not in the center. Put the N6 in the case with the M-logo turned away from the magnet.
When the magnet is about 1 cm away from the M-logo, the magnet sensor is not activated.
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When a magnet stays close enough to the M-logo there is no problem. But most leather cases are flexible. Little movings will continuously activate and deactivate the magnet sensor. So the screen is frequently tuned on.
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The update really didn't make a difference for this but I did notice that for the official cover, either I received a defective one or the magnet is extremely weak. Velcro won't help as it doesn't have a flap to keep it closed. I guess the prosimity sensor only works with a phone call.
Has anyone got a flip cover for this phone that turns the screen off when you close it? Various reviews mention this phone has a hall sensor (Eg. nokiamob.net review). I installed a multi-sensor test app and can see a magnetic sensor there that shows changing readings when I waive a magnet over it, but opening or closing the case does not affect the screen. This work for anyone ?
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Has anyone got a flip cover for this phone that turns the screen off when you close it? Various reviews mention this phone has a hall sensor (Eg. nokiamob.net review). I installed a multi-sensor test app and can see a magnetic sensor there that shows changing readings when I waive a magnet over it, but opening or closing the case does not affect the screen. This work for anyone ?
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I've been looking into the cases of this phone since i got it on the first day of launch. Sadly to date there is none. Maybe Nokia will release a case that does so and enable thay feature in a future update.
I want to DIY my bicycle phone case to something like the original flip cover, and i have problem.
I try to find the sensor on the left side of the phone with a small magnet, but it doesn't work for me - the date and time display does not "jump" to the right side of screen (as in the youtube movies presents original flip cover).
Do these cases have something extra about them (like nfc, etc), except from a magnet stip with which the phone detects that the cover is closed? In LG, the magnet trick worked, in my p30 pro not .
I have the smart cover option turned on (Settings> Accessibility features> Smart cover), EMUI 12.0.0.134
Please see the photos, showing, where the magnet in the original cover is. Also, I've used a Xiaomi Mi Band 6 charger (with a magnet) to trigger the sensor.
Thank you for your help,
I recently purchased a Tab S8 Ultra and it's been great so far. However, I noticed that the S Pen doesn't work consistently at the edges of the tablet, particularly the 'bottom' edge where the keyboard connector is.
I initially observed this when I tried to click the 'home' navigation button with the pen, but the click would not register. Repeated attempts to click were met with failed responses more often than registered clicks. This was with the tablet in landscape mode and the taskbar enabled - so the navigation buttons were concentrated at the bottom right of the screen. With the tablet rotated to portrait mode, however, the buttons were responsive and worked as expected. I tested this in Samsung Notes as well. It seems to be common for small 'dead spots' to appear when drawing along the edge. The thing is, when making a pass back towards those spots, they can sometimes be drawn over. These spots are generally in the same area, but the pens' ability to function over these regions seems random. See examples.
I assume this has to do with the magnets around the sides of the tablet interfering with the display/pen EMR technology, but it's odd that it is inconsistent. If the tablet is using permanent magnets at the bottom, one would expect the effects of their magnetic field to be present at all times. It would also be a pretty major design flaw if the pen doesn't consistently work with the navigation buttons in one of their default locations as well.
Has anyone noticed similar behavior with their S8 Ultra (or any S8 series tablet for that matter)? Do you think I have a defective unit?
Make sure you have not turned on disable gestures and buttons when using s pen. That will make so when you use s pen the home button and such won't take affect when touching them with the pen. So no it has nothing to do with magnets for keyboard. Since i tried now with my s pen and it's registering fine.
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Im facing the same issue infact my s pen doesn't work properly in the middle of the screen also. If i press it too hard then it seems to work fine. It started happening a month ago can someone please suggest what i should do ?
Also if it take it to the service center will they replace the device ?
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I recently purchased a Tab S8 Ultra and it's been great so far. However, I noticed that the S Pen doesn't work consistently at the edges of the tablet, particularly the 'bottom' edge where the keyboard connector is.
I initially observed this when I tried to click the 'home' navigation button with the pen, but the click would not register. Repeated attempts to click were met with failed responses more often than registered clicks. This was with the tablet in landscape mode and the taskbar enabled - so the navigation buttons were concentrated at the bottom right of the screen. With the tablet rotated to portrait mode, however, the buttons were responsive and worked as expected. I tested this in Samsung Notes as well. It seems to be common for small 'dead spots' to appear when drawing along the edge. The thing is, when making a pass back towards those spots, they can sometimes be drawn over. These spots are generally in the same area, but the pens' ability to function over these regions seems random. See examples.
I assume this has to do with the magnets around the sides of the tablet interfering with the display/pen EMR technology, but it's odd that it is inconsistent. If the tablet is using permanent magnets at the bottom, one would expect the effects of their magnetic field to be present at all times. It would also be a pretty major design flaw if the pen doesn't consistently work with the navigation buttons in one of their default locations as well.
Has anyone noticed similar behavior with their S8 Ultra (or any S8 series tablet for that matter)? Do you think I have a defective unit?
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I have the exact same problem + it also happpes in the top edge not just the bottom ,,
As you said home button doesn't work with s pen but other buttons ( back , recent , screenshot , power off ) works instantly without any miss , which is weird
But in other scenarios , not home screen , like photopea.com ; the "adding layer" button ( which is at the bottom edge almost at the same place of home button ) doesn't work with s pen
Another example; in adobe lightroom the top edge have the same problem, it doesn't respond when tapping ir drawing on it , but it Does when starting the drawing in a closer area from the middle then moving the s pen to the edge , in this case it works , which is very weird
Ahmad-issa1999 said:
I have the exact same problem + it also happpes in the top edge not just the bottom ,,
As you said home button doesn't work with s pen but other buttons ( back , recent , screenshot , power off ) works instantly without any miss , which is weird
But in other scenarios , not home screen , like photopea.com ; the "adding layer" button ( which is at the bottom edge almost at the same place of home button ) doesn't work with s pen
Another example; in adobe lightroom the top edge have the same problem, it doesn't respond when tapping ir drawing on it , but it Does when starting the drawing in a closer area from the middle then moving the s pen to the edge , in this case it works , which is very weird
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If your issues are to the right of the front-facing camera, maybe they have to do with the S Pen magnets?
I ultimately decided to exchange the tablet. My new one doesn't have any of my aforementioned problems. Also, the issues had nothing to do with the gestures option - the dead spots existed with gestures on/off.
Although the issue is solved, the root cause is still unknown. I'm starting to consider if the problems I had were due to a case. For a short period of time I had a Speck Balance Folio on my first Tab S8 Ultra. It was a nice case but I had to remove it after the first day because the cases magnets were creating huge dead spots on the screen. The case had a pretty large magnet spanning the lower half of the tablet, so maybe it was strong enough to permanently alter the in-built tablet magnets? I never drew on the edges of the screen until after I removed the case, so there was no way to know if the issue existed beforehand.
I currently have the official Samsung Protective Standing cover on my new tablet, and while it does have two small magnets near the edges, I have no issues using any part of the screen with the S Pen.
I guess to answer my own question in the post, and to possibly help anyone reading this in the future:
Your tablet should not be having issues near the edges of the screen.
Avoid all third party cases if possible, unless they are confirmed to be magnet-free (e.g. Supcase Unicorn Beetle and Poetic Turtleskin - It's a shame there are no magnet-free folio cases with decent protection).
Versace_V said:
I recently purchased a Tab S8 Ultra and it's been great so far. However, I noticed that the S Pen doesn't work consistently at the edges of the tablet, particularly the 'bottom' edge where the keyboard connector is.
I initially observed this when I tried to click the 'home' navigation button with the pen, but the click would not register. Repeated attempts to click were met with failed responses more often than registered clicks. This was with the tablet in landscape mode and the taskbar enabled - so the navigation buttons were concentrated at the bottom right of the screen. With the tablet rotated to portrait mode, however, the buttons were responsive and worked as expected. I tested this in Samsung Notes as well. It seems to be common for small 'dead spots' to appear when drawing along the edge. The thing is, when making a pass back towards those spots, they can sometimes be drawn over. These spots are generally in the same area, but the pens' ability to function over these regions seems random. See examples.
I assume this has to do with the magnets around the sides of the tablet interfering with the display/pen EMR technology, but it's odd that it is inconsistent. If the tablet is using permanent magnets at the bottom, one would expect the effects of their magnetic field to be present at all times. It would also be a pretty major design flaw if the pen doesn't consistently work with the navigation buttons in one of their default locations as well.
Has anyone noticed similar behavior with their S8 Ultra (or any S8 series tablet for that matter)? Do you think I have a defective unit?
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Versace_V said:
If your issues are to the right of the front-facing camera, maybe they have to do with the S Pen magnets?
I ultimately decided to exchange the tablet. My new one doesn't have any of my aforementioned problems. Also, the issues had nothing to do with the gestures option - the dead spots existed with gestures on/off.
Although the issue is solved, the root cause is still unknown. I'm starting to consider if the problems I had were due to a case. For a short period of time I had a Speck Balance Folio on my first Tab S8 Ultra. It was a nice case but I had to remove it after the first day because the cases magnets were creating huge dead spots on the screen. The case had a pretty large magnet spanning the lower half of the tablet, so maybe it was strong enough to permanently alter the in-built tablet magnets? I never drew on the edges of the screen until after I removed the case, so there was no way to know if the issue existed beforehand.
I currently have the official Samsung Protective Standing cover on my new tablet, and while it does have two small magnets near the edges, I have no issues using any part of the screen with the S Pen.
I guess to answer my own question in the post, and to possibly help anyone reading this in the future:
Your tablet should not be having issues near the edges of the screen.
Avoid all third party cases if possible, unless they are confirmed to be magnet-free (e.g. Supcase Unicorn Beetle and Poetic Turtleskin - It's a shame there are no magnet-free folio cases with decent protection).
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The problem ( in lightroom ) happens in the left side of the cameras
I have the official Samsung bookcover keyboard , i removed it but the home button stil didn't respond , then i thought what will happen if i try from a different angle ? And that's what i did , i used the s pen as its top is heading to the cameras not to my side , and it worked ! Home button responded in every single try ,,,, then i placed back the kickstand piece of the bookcover and did the same with the s pen , and it also worked with no miss , so i think it's not the magnets' fault , it's something in the angle of the pen ,,,, note that i tried the normal way of using it ( when the top of the s pen is heading to me ) and rotate it many times and touch the home button , didn't work , so this probably confirms that it's a matter of angle detection not dead spots or magnet thing
Also , the top left edge responded when swiping down to bring the quick setting , so maybe lightroom app is programmed to not detect the edge's touch in order to prevent any accident touching when handing the device
So i guess there're no big concerns here , we can live with that
Generally speaking, Samsung tablets have always had issues with covers that use magnets to hold the flap closed against the screen as they are too strong for the inbuilt algorithms to compensate for. The Spen itself is nothing but a magnet whose movement is detected by these algorithms. The magnet flaps interfere with that.
I have had ZERO issues since I switched to a cover that uses an elastic band to hold the flap closed against the screen. It has magnets, sure, but they're tiny and only for the lock/unlock functionality, not to physically hold the flap against the screen.
Hope this helps!