Hello everyone. :cyclops:
Recently I got new AT&T XT1058 Moto x with Android 4.2.2. and I downloaded 41MB big critical update and installed it, so the system version now is 139.12.54.ghost_att.ATT.en.US
Android version is still 4.2.2. but now I keep getting pop-up notifications for update to Android 4.4. critical update, system version 140.44.5.en.US size of 326.5.
I read many comments of users which updated to 4.4 and in many cases battery lasts shorter than on 4.2.2.
So I was thinking maybe to stay on 4.2.2. if this update (4.4.) isn't very important to my phone besides its new features of a newer OS version.
What do you recommend? If I stay on this version, how to remove this pop-up asking to install 4.4 it is annoying.
And also, is there a way to root this AT&T XT1058 version, which is right now on Android 4.2.2. system version 139.12.54.ghost_att.ATT.en.US?
Thanks!
You can root it and also unlock the bootloader in this step for free so you can use any rom you want..
Salik Iqbal said:
You can root it and also unlock the bootloader in this step for free so you can use any rom you want..
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actually i had to contact at&t and they sent me sim unlock code, so now it is unlocked to all carriers
can you tell me how can i check if bootloader is unlocked, also how can i root this 4.2.2?
thanks!
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Hello everyone,
I am new to this forum, though I have used a lot of information posted, this is my first post. Please, bear with me on this!
I have a Moto X Developer Edition running 4.2.2 on Verizon network. I don't mind 4.2.2 but I would enjoy updating to kit kat, my only concern is that when I do so I am no longer able to use FoxFi. I have unlimited data so it is important to me to have the ability to run the hotspot.
What I would like to accomplish with root:
Upgrade to Kit Kat
Run stock hotspot, use the 5GHz hotspot frequency band, and bypass provisions from Verizon just like FoxFi does.
I would like to also be able to revert back to the current state I am at now, whenever I want. (4.2.2 etc)
I am super excited to start playing with my dev ed phone but I want to do it right, and like I said I would like to revert back to an unrooted state with 4.2.2 with no issues, then reapply the root when I feel necessary. (don't know if this is possible)
If this all sounds possible please feel free to help me and you will not regret it. Thanks in advance!
Did Doe said:
Run stock hotspot and bypass provisions from Verizon just like FoxFi does.
Use the 5GHz hotspot frequency band
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Once you are on 4.4 and rooted, you can use either the Xposed Tethering Module or the Native tether for VZW DE 4.4 Hack
Did Doe said:
I would like to also be able to revert back to the current state I am at now, whenever I want. (4.2.2 etc)
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Once on 4.4, you can downgrade to 4.2.2 post-camera update by flashing the firmware. Make sure you only go back to the 4.2.2 post-camera update and not the pre-camera update. Trying to downgrade from 4.4. to the 4.2.2 pre-camera update will brick your device.
Once you upgrade to the 4.4.2 bootloader, you cannot downgrade so don't take the 4.4.2 OTA. Rather, you want to stay on the 4.4 bootloader (since it is the only downgradable bootloader) and selectively flash the 4.4.2 firmware once it is released if you want to run 4.4.2.
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The only OTA that can downgrade is 4.4 to 4.2.2 Post Cam. Here is what we know right now that might make more sense
4.4 to 4.2.2 Pre Cam will Brick
4.2.2 Post Cam to 4.2.2 Pre Cam will Brick.
4.4.2 to to anything will Brick
4.4 to 4.2.2 Post Cam you are ok
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WARNING
Good start!
Cozume said:
Once you are on 4.4 and rooted, you can use either xposed module or the Native tether for VZW DE 4.4 Hack
Once on 4.4, you can downgrade to 4.2.2 post camera update by flashing the firmware. Make sure you only go back to the 4.2.2 post camera update and not the precamera update. Trying to downgrade from 4.4. to 4.2.2 precamera update will brick your device.
Once you go to 4.4.2 bootloader, you cannot downgrade so don't take the 4.4.2 OTA.
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This is useful information, but I was hoping for a bit more detailed walk through. I know that this post is going to get viewed a ton of times, so I will not be the only one that benefits from this. Thanks for the advise on how not to brick this is very important to me.
Good post but dig deeper people!
Did Doe said:
This is useful information, but I was hoping for a bit more detailed walk through. I know that this post is going to get viewed a ton of times, so I will not be the only one that benefits from this. Thanks for the advise on how not to brick this is very important to me.
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I put the link to the Xposed Tethering Module in my response to you.
Anyhow, everything you want to do can be done as long as by 4.2.2 you mean the 4.2.2 post-camera update. If by 4.2.2 you mean the pre-camera update, you cannot downgrade the 4.2.2 post-camera bootloader nor can you downgrade the 4.4 bootloader beyond the 4.2.2 post-camera update so you can't go from the 4.2.2 pre-camera update to Kit Kat and ever go back down to it.
Cozume said:
I put the link to the Xposed Tethering Module in my response to you.
Anyhow, everything you want to do can be done as long as by 4.2.2 you mean the 4.2.2 post-camera update. If by 4.2.2 you mean the pre-camera update, you cannot downgrade the 4.2.2 post-camera bootloader nor can you downgrade the 4.4 bootloader beyond the 4.2.2 post-camera update so you can't go from the 4.2.2 pre-camera update to Kit Kat and ever go back down to it.
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I have not update or messed with the phone in anyway. So does that mean I have 4.2.2 pre camera? I think I already mention how excited I am to get started with the tinkering.
Did Doe said:
I have not update or messed with the phone in anyway. So does that mean I have 4.2.2 pre camera? I think I already mention how excited I am to get started with the tinkering.
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What version does your phone say you are on?
You start by taking the 4.4 OTA. How are you blocking the annoying update messages, btw?
Also, are you unlocked already? Get unlocked if you haven't already but that wipes your device so get everything off of your device that you want off before you unlock the bootloader. Then once you are unlocked and have taken the 4.4 OTA, you can follow these instructions to get rooted.
Step-by-step instructions to get your Moto X Dev Ed running 4.4 unlocked and rooted
Cozume said:
What version does your phone say you are on?
You start by taking the 4.4 OTA. How are you blocking the annoying update messages, btw?
Also, are you unlocked already? Get unlocked if you haven't already but that wipes your device so get everything off of your device that you want off before you unlock the bootloader. Then once you are unlocked and have taken the 4.4 OTA, you can follow these instructions to get rooted.
Step-by-step instructions to get your Moto X Dev Ed running 4.4 unlocked and rooted
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And how am I supposed to go back to 4.2.2?
Cozume said:
What version does your phone say you are on?
You start by taking the 4.4 OTA. How are you blocking the annoying update messages, btw?
Also, are you unlocked already? Get unlocked if you haven't already but that wipes your device so get everything off of your device that you want off before you unlock the bootloader. Then once you are unlocked and have taken the 4.4 OTA, you can follow these instructions to get rooted.
Step-by-step instructions to get your Moto X Dev Ed running 4.4 unlocked and rooted
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I have just ignored the update and my phone says I'm on 4.2.2. Its the stock OTA
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And how am I supposed to go back to 4.2.2?
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To go back to 4.2.2 POST-camera, you flash the firmware for 4.2.2.
sbf firmware
You can never go back to 4.2.2 PRE-camera once you update beyond it.
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Did Doe said:
I have just ignored the update and my phone says I'm on 4.2.2. Its the stock OTA
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What version of the 4.2.2? Go into settings and about phone and status and it will tell you.
Did Doe said:
I have just ignored the update and my phone says I'm on 4.2.2. Its the stock OTA
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I see you're excited to tinker,so unless you want a paperweight, I suggest you do some homework first.
Everything you are asking for is already here in stickies, other threads and hundreds of posts.
You can say I'm being a jerk...but trust me, if you don't study up on this stuff you will one day regret it. There's tonnes of info here already.
Us "digging deeper" to lay it out for you isn't going to give you any of the tools to do this stuff trouble free. Just read about all the bricked devices and you'll see what I'm trying to say.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
kj2112 said:
Everything you are asking for is already here in stickies, other threads and hundreds of posts.
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And if you only had hundreds of free hours to read them you would be good to go.
Cozume said:
To go back to 4.2.2 POST-camera, you flash the firmware for 4.2.2.
sbf firmware
You can never go back to 4.2.2 PRE-camera once you update beyond it.
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What version of the 4.2.2? Go into settings and about phone and status and it will tell you.
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139.10.53.ghost verizon
Did Doe said:
139.10.53.ghost verizon
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If you go back to the sbf firmware link above, you will see that is the pre-camera version of 4.2.2 because it is the lower number of the two 4.2.2 versions. Again, you can never go back to that once you update. It is a one way street.
I don't know if the post-camera 4.2.2 allowed native tethering without root because I didn't stay on that version long enough to know. I wanted kit kat.
The pre-camera update camera is unusable. Don't know how you could stay on it.
Cozume said:
If you go back to the sbf firmware link above, you will see that is the pre-camera version of 4.2.2 because it is the lower number of the two 4.2.2 versions. Again, you can never go back to that once you update. It is a one way street.
I don't know if the post-camera 4.2.2 allowed native tethering without root because I didn't stay on that version long enough to know. I wanted kit kat.
The pre-camera update camera is unusable. Don't know how you could stay on it.
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Its stock OTA. I have been just ignoring the update. I will update. Unlock root then flash the post cam and I'll will let you know how it goes. If I have more question I'll let you know. Till then.. Thanks!
I've had a cleanup here guys and I'd prefer not to have to return for the same reasons.
I've you've got nothing constructive to add to the thread, don't even bother posting here.
Cozume said:
And if you only had hundreds of free hours to read them you would be good to go.
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Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!
Even though we had a nuisance, you guided me to a victorious root!!!!!
Now I shall work on the tether. I will let you know what I get.
Thanks again
Cozume said:
If you go back to the sbf firmware link above, you will see that is the pre-camera version of 4.2.2 because it is the lower number of the two 4.2.2 versions. Again, you can never go back to that once you update. It is a one way street.
I don't know if the post-camera 4.2.2 allowed native tethering without root because I didn't stay on that version long enough to know. I wanted kit kat.
The pre-camera update camera is unusable. Don't know how you could stay on it.
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All went extremely well. Updated. I unlocked my phone. Rooted. Got the tether working. Went back to 4.2.2 and now I am back rooted on kit kat. Thank you, you are beautiful!!!
Hi, tried searching my answer, but still not clear as to the answer for my situation, im about to purchase the unlock code for my non DE verizon moto x , code is from someone from china. If i upgrade to 4.4.2 while unlocked bootloader, any way back to 4.2.2 post camera update. Thanks
ericizzy1 said:
Hi, tried searching my answer, but still not clear as to the answer for my situation, im about to purchase the unlock code for my non DE verizon moto x , code is from someone from china. If i upgrade to 4.4.2 while unlocked bootloader, any way back to 4.2.2 post camera update. Thanks
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No you can not flash the complete 4.2.2 PCU package it will fail because you can't downgrade the bootloader
Yes because you can flash everything but the bootloader and it will take but if you accidentally take a OTA. you will brick your device.
but if you are able to unlock your bootloader then why would you want to downgrade. with a unlocked bootloader you will be able to root 4.4.2 with no issues
because when I was on 4.4, I had some battery consumption and heating issues also bluetooth was not perfect, I just wanted to make sure I have a way back To 4.2.2
also, not being able to downgrade the bootloader, in which way does this affect me going back to four point 4.2.2?
Your phone will work fine but like i said if you ever take a ota it will brick your phone
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dray_jr said:
Your phone will work fine but like i said if you ever take a ota it will brick your phone
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ota will brick, will be able to rsd to 4.4 or 4.4.2 if wanted?
Yup that is correct
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ericizzy1 said:
ota will brick, will be able to rsd to 4.4 or 4.4.2 if wanted?
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No. Once you start mixing bootloader versions with system file versions (i.e. 4.4.2 bootloader with 4.2.2 system files), RSD Lite won't work. You will have to use a command line and mfastboot.exe to manually flash each partition.
And I actually tried to run 4.2.2 (post camera update) system files with a 4.4.2 bootloader and it would not boot; however, 4.4 system files do work with a 4.4.2 bootloader.
This has actually been discussed at great length and detail in this forum and A LOT of people were bricking their phones playing around with bootloader versions, just like you are talking about doing. At one point there was a sticky dedicated to it, but its since disappeared from the board for some reason.
To put it simply, please don't start mixing bootloader versions with system files. If you like 4.2.2, don't upgrade to 4.4.2. If you are on 4.4, then you can still downgrade to 4.2.2 (post camera update version). Do that and stay there. But if you upgrade to 4.4.2, don't fool around with it and start trying to downgrade. There is no point, and you will likely end up bricking your phone.
It's your phone, so do what you want, but you have been warned (by someone with personal experience by the way). If you do brick it, please don't start another "OMG! HELP ME!! I BRICKED MY PHONE!!" thread. There's plenty of those already floating around here. :good:
I read that 4.4.3 will be coming any day for Sprint Moto X (already out for T-Mobile.)
I've rooted my phone, deleted some bloatware, installed Xposed, etc.
Will I need to re-flash the stock ROM before updating to 4.4.3?
Or will there be a pre-rooted 4.4.3 on this forum which I can flash right over my phone as it is (like there were for my older devices)?
Sorry, new to Moto X.
You'll need the bloat back, that's why you should only disable and not delete it. OTAs do file checks on the system partition and if any are missing or modified the OTA will fail. You'll also need to disable Xposed as well.
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d0g said:
I read that 4.4.3 will be coming any day for Sprint Moto X (already out for T-Mobile.)
I've rooted my phone, deleted some bloatware, installed Xposed, etc.
Will I need to re-flash the stock ROM before updating to 4.4.3?
Or will there be a pre-rooted 4.4.3 on this forum which I can flash right over my phone as it is (like there were for my older devices)?
Sorry, new to Moto X.
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I was just going to ask the exactly same question. I am also on Sprint, and had gone through the official bootloader unlock but not changed the stock rom. I imagine I will still get the OTA update, and taking it will not make me lose root?
I have the OTA update reminder frozen with Titanium Backup right now and am currently running 4.4 out of paranoia. Reading some of the other posts, it seems that I might be OK and OTA updates may only affect those on ATT/Verizon that had to go through other means to get get root?
Always best to freeze...not delete. Takes very little space up and no problem with ota's.
You can always download the official 4.4.2 from Moto and flash system.img and recovery.img. Those will get you back to stock. Then you can take the OTA, flash TWRP, root and reinstall Xposed (all your modules and Xposed/gravity box settings will still be there).
That is what I did going from 4.4 to 4.4.2. Worked like a charm.
You have to flash system.img with mfastboot though not just fastboot. Just Google instructions. They are on xda as well.
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What I'm curious about....is if you will be able to downgrade from 4.4.3 to 4.4.2? If its the same bootloader, which I'm sure it is....should be fine. If it isn't....I see many brick threads in the coming days. ?
d0g said:
I read that 4.4.3 will be coming any day for Sprint Moto X (already out for T-Mobile.)
I've rooted my phone, deleted some bloatware, installed Xposed, etc.
Will I need to re-flash the stock ROM before updating to 4.4.3?
Or will there be a pre-rooted 4.4.3 on this forum which I can flash right over my phone as it is (like there were for my older devices)?
Sorry, new to Moto X.
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ibwhite said:
I was just going to ask the exactly same question. I am also on Sprint, and had gone through the official bootloader unlock but not changed the stock rom. I imagine I will still get the OTA update, and taking it will not make me lose root?
I have the OTA update reminder frozen with Titanium Backup right now and am currently running 4.4 out of paranoia. Reading some of the other posts, it seems that I might be OK and OTA updates may only affect those on ATT/Verizon that had to go through other means to get get root?
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This was asked about when the 4.2.2 to 4.4 OTA came out, and again when the 4.4 to 4.4.2 OTA came out..
so see -> Taking an OTA
Sorry for such a basic question. I rooted my Moto X quite a while ago. It is still on 4.2.2, the phone asks me to update every day and I just decline it. How can I update it to a newer version without losing root or causing any issues??
Thanks in advance!
You'll have to lose the root first. But may I suggest you explore the option of unlocking your bootloader 1st before updating as you won't be able to unlock it once you do the update to latest firmware.
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Unroot + Update
treepog said:
Sorry for such a basic question. I rooted my Moto X quite a while ago. It is still on 4.2.2, the phone asks me to update every day and I just decline it. How can I update it to a newer version without losing root or causing any issues??
Thanks in advance!
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Unroot + Update, then Root again...
Thank you both for the replies. Yes, I'd like to unlock bootloader. I don't remember exactly what I used to root since it was a while ago. I believe it was an app. Does it matter? What's the easiest way to unlock bootloader?
How do I unroot since I don't remember exactly how I rooted? Then once I unlock bootloader do I try to get the auto update from Sprint or download the update somewhere?
Thanks again!
bushako said:
You'll have to lose the root first. But may I suggest you explore the option of unlocking your bootloader 1st before updating as you won't be able to unlock it once you do the update to latest firmware.
Sent from my Moto X
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nijom said:
Unroot + Update, then Root again...
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You can unroot by the su app but you don't have to be unrooted to take ota's. Just have stock recovery and your stock ROM. If I were you, I wouldn't update the bootloader, so you can easily go back. Lots of complaints about 5.1. So go unlock the bootloader first with root, flash twrp, and then flash this ROM here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3155843
Then if you don't like stock lollipop, you can go back. Lots of people like 4.4.4. This ROM doesn't update the boot loader
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I have AT&T XT1058 Moto x with Android 4.2.2. and I downloaded 41MB big critical update and installed it, so the system version now is 139.12.54.ghost_att.ATT.en.US.
Android version is still 4.2.2.
How can I root it?
Try pie, dont take any update past 4.4.2 after that your out of luck. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623
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Try pie, dont take any update past 4.4.2 after that your out of luck. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623
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I am on 4.2.2. version 139.12.54.ghost_att.ATT.en.US. locked bootloader, should I still try that one?