I have bought a note 4 from Dubai it is N9100C and it is internationaly unlocked. When I tried using it with tmobile in USA they offered me an insurance plan. As you all know insurance company will block the phone if it was reported stolen. But my question is what will happen to my phone if it was reported as stolen? I have already paid it full and it is an international unlocked version.
Would I be able to use it in a different carrier or just internationaly ?
If it's reported lost and or stolen. It's a no go for North America.
Even if I used prepaid ?
mistamikel said:
If it's reported lost and or stolen. It's a no go for North America.
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If you read some postings people report that once blacklisted in US it doesnt work with some European providers
Seriously, is your phone stolen or not.
If the phone is unlocked then it technically cant be blacklisted unless it had a previous owner who reported it stolen.
AT&T and T-Mobile share IMEI numbers so if the phone was reported stolen it wont work. And T-mobile doesn't make you buy insurance for your phone, that is a lie.
Your question is suspect and vague.
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Seriously, is your phone stolen or not.
If the phone is unlocked then it technically cant be blacklisted unless it had a previous owner who reported it stolen.
AT&T and T-Mobile share IMEI numbers so if the phone was reported stolen it wont work. And T-mobile doesn't make you buy insurance for your phone, that is a lie.
Your question is suspect and vague.
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How would he know if he purchased the device from someone. He wouldn't... AND he didn't say tmobile made him buy insurance he said they OFFERED it. And they offer the jump/insurance plan on any device they carry. It's because they get kickbacks from the company (https://myphpinfo.com/) that provides the insurance.
His question wasn't suspect. It was direct and specific.
what will happen to my phone if it was reported as stolen? I have already paid it full and it is an international unlocked version. Would I be able to use it in a different carrier or just internationaly ?"]what will happen to my phone if it was reported as stolen? I have already paid it full and it is an international unlocked version. Would I be able to use it in a different carrier or just internationaly ?
The answer is Nothing will happen to your phone. The device will either be Blacklisted and not work (even on prepaid), Work for a few months and then be blacklisted (See below), or it will work and you will have never have issues.
If the device was reported stolen by any of the major carriers it will definitely not make calls, text messages, or LTE from any of the NA carriers Even prepaid, most sub carriers that use sim cards like straight talk, simple mobile, h20, Red Pocket, family mobile etc piggy back on either Tmobile or AT&T towers, you won’t be able to use any of these.
Also a stolen device isn't the only device that will be blacklisted on NA carrier networks. Some other reasons include.. A past due balance on a phone not fully paid off or if the early termination fees weren't paid on the account. So you take a risk if you purchase a device from a disreputable source. For instance, if I decided I wanted to sell my phone for crack, I could , and the device would work for a month or two or three. That is, until tmobile decides to block it. "Okay this guy ins't paying us, Black list the device"
Not every phone bought off of the black market is stolen. But a phone bought off the blackmarket runs the risk of being blocked later down the road.
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How would he know if he purchased the device from someone. He wouldn't... AND he didn't say tmobile made him buy insurance he said they OFFERED it. And they offer the jump/insurance plan on any device they carry. It's because they get kickbacks from the company (https://myphpinfo.com/) that provides the insurance.
His question wasn't suspect. It was direct and specific.
what will happen to my phone if it was reported as stolen? I have already paid it full and it is an international unlocked version. Would I be able to use it in a different carrier or just internationaly ?"]what will happen to my phone if it was reported as stolen? I have already paid it full and it is an international unlocked version. Would I be able to use it in a different carrier or just internationaly ?
The answer is Nothing will happen to your phone. The device will either be Blacklisted and not work (even on prepaid), Work for a few months and then be blacklisted (See below), or it will work and you will have never have issues.
If the device was reported stolen by any of the major carriers it will definitely not make calls, text messages, or LTE from any of the NA carriers Even prepaid, most sub carriers that use sim cards like straight talk, simple mobile, h20, Red Pocket, family mobile etc piggy back on either Tmobile or AT&T towers, you won’t be able to use any of these.
Also a stolen device isn't the only device that will be blacklisted on NA carrier networks. Some other reasons include.. A past due balance on a phone not fully paid off or if the early termination fees weren't paid on the account. So you take a risk if you purchase a device from a disreputable source. For instance, if I decided I wanted to sell my phone for crack, I could , and the device would work for a month or two or three. That is, until tmobile decides to block it. "Okay this guy ins't paying us, Black list the device"
Not every phone bought off of the black market is stolen. But a phone bought off the blackmarket runs the risk of being blocked later down the road.
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You're two weeks late.
His question was vague, and I took it for exactly for what it was.
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You're two weeks late.
His question was vague, and I took it for exactly for what it was.
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Better late than never. At least now there is some actual information that isn't accusatory in nature. Glad to help out the community.
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Better late than never. At least now there is some actual information that isn't accusatory in nature. Glad to help out the community.
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The question was vague. The answer was based on the question. And believe me I know a lot about blacklisted phones, I own a "box" or two.
get a life
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The question was vague. The answer was based on the question. And believe me I know a lot about blacklisted phones, I own a "box" or two.
get a life
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I'll just leave this here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing and this does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is unacceptable. Treat new members in the manner in which you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instructions when you can, showing them respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
1. Flaming, I would not call it that.
2. My answer was based on the question.
3. If "get a life" is flaming I could care less.
4. You tried to answer a question by assuming and the OP himself left the thread weeks ago.
5. Y not build up your "thanks" meter with real helpful answers. Direct it at the OP not me, and just maybe you wouldn't be trying to flame and hide.
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I'll just leave this here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing and this does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is unacceptable. Treat new members in the manner in which you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instructions when you can, showing them respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
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sorry, but this user was very careful not to state why his phone might be considered stolen. it really sounds like this user knows it was stolen and is surprised that tmobile has made any offering at all. not to mention, the user has also gone silent since the start of the conversation. i know human nature enough to read between the lines.
You don't have to apologize, you did nothing wrong. I have considered your answer and in return I would like you to consider mine.
I don't think OP was tactful in his original request. His question was simply "If the phone is reported stolen, what would happen do the device or could he use it with a prepaid.... We can't infer from his inquiry that the device he was using is stolen. But only that OP was curious about what happens when a device is reported stolen. You're also right that he has gone silent. But wouldn't you if you asked a question out of curiosity and started to be accused of having a stolen device and not helpful post.
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1. Flaming, I would not call it that.
2. My answer was based on the question.
3. If "get a life" is flaming I could care less.
4. You tried to answer a question by assuming and the OP himself left the thread weeks ago.
5. Y not build up your "thanks" meter with real helpful answers. Direct it at the OP not me, and just maybe you wouldn't be trying to flame and hide.
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1. Flaming is the name of the rule. I probably wouldn't call your answer that either.
2. You're answer was incompetent and incomplete.
3. See #2
4. I left the answer for anyone else who also may be searching for the answer.. why? See #2.
5. I couldn't care less about the thanks. Just making sure there is accurate information for the community.
Cheers!
Where was my answer incompetent. Man please. If he had a truly unlocked device the only way it would have been blocked if it was reported stolen. He was worried about insurance which has nothing to do with the IMEI...which I stated. So you tried to sound correct but it's up to the OP to choose not you.
People like you dont know your stuff will do anything to boost post count with a lackluster contribution riding of the back of others.
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What you are discussing OP is fraud and it will not be tolerated on this site!
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Please! tell me how can i do it. Im willing to pay. If i wont unlock it im stuck with 2 devices. It is Sprint Prepaid.
Thank you !!!
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Please! tell me how can i do it. Im willing to pay. If i wont unlock it im stuck with 2 devices. It is Sprint Prepaid.
Thank you !!!
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Prepare for a soap box, I've hidden this now because as relevant as it is, it's a little over the top.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CALL SPRINT AND GET AN DEVICE UNLOCK CODE FROM THEM! It's pretty simple. Ya'll need to quit with all these posts. You're not encouraging anyone to do any work any quicker than they might already be doing it. You are simply being an annoyance. Twenty thousand posts about the same thing is getting really old. Buy a phone that works with your SIM card, buy a device already SIM unlocked, or wait until someone figures out a way!
STOP ASKING A MILLION TIMES OVER FOR THE SAME THING!!
This post is not just against you but EVERYONE begging over and over again about the same thing. The same thing goes for those with 64 bit devices who beg for a 64 bit recovery.
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Ok sherlock, Already called sprint before i made this post. You know what was their answer? "WE CANT UNLOCK IT, SORRY SIR". Yes, very dissapointing, I know. She told me "you can only use the wifi". Like, if she would answer me - Get lost.
And btw, I already have a phone, A OnePlus One I just bought these 2 sprint phones from amazon for super cheap - 30$ each. I've been planning using them as a backup / Give one for my sister's boyfriend. So, just saying again, I hope someone can do it and unlock it..
Go after Sprint
Seems to me that we are growing frustrated at the wrong people...
Obama signed into law a few months back that requires the phones to be "Unlockable" by the end user. I do know, a lot of the carriers have voluntarily put in promise to comply in the future, in regards to selling Unlockable phones. But, I just see it as lip service and does not help us Now.
Someone or a group of people need to take this up with the FCC or Justice Department...
But at the very least file a class action lawsuit on two fronts... I personally am miffed about this same phone being marketed as a 4 Gig of internal memory, when in fact it really has about 1.5 Gigs or less of available memory. And, this whole SIM/Locked, S-On, Bootloader Locked nonsense.
Owner of 4 HTC Desire 510s'
MeTaL.SnAkE said:
Ok sherlock, Already called sprint before i made this post. You know what was their answer? "WE CANT UNLOCK IT, SORRY SIR". Yes, very dissapointing, I know. She told me "you can only use the wifi". Like, if she would answer me - Get lost.
And btw, I already have a phone, A OnePlus One I just bought these 2 sprint phones from amazon for super cheap - 30$ each. I've been planning using them as a backup / Give one for my sister's boyfriend. So, just saying again, I hope someone can do it and unlock it..
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Well Watson, if Sprint wont help you, instead of creating such a useless thread--that helps nobody and gets you no answers--how about you utilize the search function and notice that nobody has currently found a way to sim unlock (save Virgin Mobile apparently). You'll also notice how many useless posts there are about this same thing. So "for the love of god", either figure it out yourself or sit patiently. You posting about this issue, really a non-issue, is not going to get it solved any faster. You are simply being an annoyance just like every other user incessantly posting about the same thing. I'm sorry if this seems mean or whatever but that post wasn't necessarily directed at you but all the damn posts about this non-issue. And honestly this is something you should have researched and considered before you bought the phone.
Sorry, I'm off the soap box.
Also, try calling Sprint International Customer Service at 1-888-226-7212 and tell them you are going to be traveling abroad to whatever country you want and tell them you want to use a local sim card while you're there. I can't tell you that they'll definitely do it because on the website it says that prepaid phones are not eligible to be unlocked, however, there are multitude of places on the internet (some respected, others not so much) that you can go to and get your MSL code. Also, this is the bill @flash4yish was talking about which you might bring up in conversation with Sprint, H.R.1123 - Unlocking Consumer Choice and Wireless Competition Act
Regardless, just chill, people are in fact working on it as it's a hot topic in the forums so it's really just a matter of time.
My friend is going to sell me his Nexus 6 that has a bad ESN on Sprint. Can I activate it on AT&T? I am pretty familiar with Sprint being able to block activation, but can they block activation on another carrier?
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kevg77 said:
My friend is going to sell me his Nexus 6 that has a bad ESN on Sprint. Can I activate it on AT&T? I am pretty familiar with Sprint being able to block activation, but can they block activation on another carrier?
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if a phone is blacklisted, now-a-days they register it on a national and international blacklist. so, if its blacklisted, chances are that it wont work on any US carrier.
Don't use stolen phones.
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Don't use stolen phones.
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It may not be stolen...may well just be the prior owner didn't pay his bills.
Besides odds are if it really was stolen...the actual owner would have used Android Device Manager to lock the device by remote.
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It may not be stolen...may well just be the prior owner didn't pay his bills.
Besides odds are if it really was stolen...the actual owner would have used Android Device Manager to lock the device by remote.
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If someone didn't pay their bills to cover the cost of the phone, phone was not paid for = stolen from sprint. Sprint won't use android device manager.
Either way, phone isn't theirs to sell
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If someone didn't pay their bills to cover the cost of the phone, phone was not paid for = stolen from sprint. Sprint won't use android device manager.
Either way, phone isn't theirs to sell
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Sprint (and many US telecoms) quite honestly deserve people stealing, one for another, from them after they're stuffing customer's bills with fraudulent charges:
http://www.techspot.com/news/59183-sprint-faces-105-million-fine-over-fraudulent-charges.html
Not a tear should ever be shed over customers "stealing" leased handsets that they failed to pay the bill on. There's a reason telecoms are the most hated companies in the USA.
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Sprint (and many US telecoms) quite honestly deserve people stealing, one for another, from them after they're stuffing customer's bills with fraudulent charges:
http://www.techspot.com/news/59183-sprint-faces-105-million-fine-over-fraudulent-charges.html
Not a tear should ever be shed over customers "stealing" leased handsets that they failed to pay the bill on.
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2 wrongs don't make a right. I think "don't use stolen phones" is a good moral code to stand by and since you'll never get the background of why something is blacklisted, it would make sense not to use them.
I don't think you advocating stealing from carriers is the sort of message this forum would support.
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2 wrongs don't make a right. I think "don't use stolen phones" is a good moral code to stand by and since you'll never get the background of why something is blacklisted, it would make sense not to use them.
I don't think you advocating stealing from carriers is the sort of message this forum would support.
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Call it "stealing" if you want.
The carriers don't. With the cost of the Nexus 6 (and many other smartphones), the carriers could easily sue customers who don't pay up and have them put in jail for grand theft. They never do. They just brick the phones on their network.
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Call it "stealing" if you want.
The carriers don't. With the cost of the Nexus 6 (and many other smartphones), the carriers could easily sue customers who don't pay up and have them put in jail for grand theft. They never do. They just brick the phones on their network.
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Yes, I call taking something without paying for it stealing. sueing someone costs more than the loss of a phone.
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Yes, I call taking something without paying for it stealing. sueing someone costs more than the loss of a phone.
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Not if you are a corporate entity in the USA it isn't. Further as exampled by the recording industry lawsuits against alleged file sharers.....what you do if you have a legal team with brains is you file civil lawsuits in bulk and legally blackmail people with the justice system for more than the actual monetary damages you've suffered. Further with that path you don't even have to prove wrong doing or damages....AND you only pay one filing fee for a few hundred John Doe
You're too used to the sensical way things apparently proceed in the UK judicial system to know how f#cked up things are in the USA WRT legal proceedings involving multi-billion USD corporate entities. And ISPs and telecoms are the scum of the Earth in the USA, even among corporations like Halliburton and Monsanto.
All in all I have to agree with @rootSU, which is why I'm gonna close this thread now. We do not know what exactly happened, and without knowing that the chances are pretty good that something illegal happened, which then does not belong on XDA.
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So I've been playing with my Nexus 6 (I am the original owner) for a while, and recently PCS'd to South Korea for 3-5 years.
AT&T suspended my wireless service under the Soldiers/Sailors Relief Act, which basically suspends my service for $.01/mo.
Now, AT&T also allows you to unlock your device so that you can use a local SIM in the country you are stationed, however their online support unlock request form does NOT recognize my IMEI???
Is it even remotely possible that flashing other radios/bootloaders/roms can potentially modify the IMEI? If so, how can I go about getting the original IMEI restored? I believe I flashed the Google-Fi rom/radio/bootloader most recently. Should I flash back a stock LMY47E or something like that with radios etc.?
I don't normally ask questions like this, but it has stumped me for the last 4 days and I've done lots of searching with no results. My google-fu sucks apparently.
Thanks in advance.
Nope. Does not change any of the IMEI info. I actually ran into the same thing with AT&T on my old Note 3. The reason it does that is because it ineligible to be unlocked through them. However, cellunlocker.net is great for unlocking phones.
AFAIK, Flashing Radio/Kernel/ROM wont change ur IMEI. I strongly suspect that the issue is on the ATT side not your IMEI.
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Holy smokes that was a fast reply!
I actually tried cellunlocker.net first, and they said that they couldn't find that IMEI in their database, and that if I wanted to wait a few additional days they would scrub other databases?
Should I have waited for them to scrub additional databases? I already got my refund back
EDIT: I do find it strange that they wouldn't unlock it or that it's not eligible though. It DOES have their branding. LOL.
There are other sites too. I would have let them scrub other sources.
Depends on how long you have had the phone and if it's financed or still in a 2 year contract.
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And it's likely ineligible because of the suspended service. Regardless of your military status. I had issues with phone companies doing that when I was in the Army stationed in Germany.
Thanks. I'll give another site a shot and be more patient with it. Hell I haven't been able to use the phone since the beginning of June, I can wait a few more days. HA.
Have seen it before on another thread here. It is ATT being an ass. They will say they can't even find IEMI till the device is payed off. Think other poster had to contact FCC. Hope you can work it out and thanks for what you do for the rest of us.
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So I've been playing with my Nexus 6 (I am the original owner) for a while, and recently PCS'd to South Korea for 3-5 years.
AT&T suspended my wireless service under the Soldiers/Sailors Relief Act, which basically suspends my service for $.01/mo.
Now, AT&T also allows you to unlock your device so that you can use a local SIM in the country you are stationed, however their online support unlock request form does NOT recognize my IMEI???
Is it even remotely possible that flashing other radios/bootloaders/roms can potentially modify the IMEI? If so, how can I go about getting the original IMEI restored? I believe I flashed the Google-Fi rom/radio/bootloader most recently. Should I flash back a stock LMY47E or something like that with radios etc.?
I don't normally ask questions like this, but it has stumped me for the last 4 days and I've done lots of searching with no results. My google-fu sucks apparently.
Thanks in advance.
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Nope. Does not change any of the IMEI info. I actually ran into the same thing with AT&T on my old Note 3. The reason it does that is because it ineligible to be unlocked through them. However, cellunlocker.net is great for unlocking phones.
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Have seen it before on another thread here. It is ATT being an ass. They will say they can't even find IEMI till the device is payed off. Think other poster had to contact FCC. Hope you can work it out and thanks for what you do for the rest of us.
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Actually, the AT&T online tool nearly always returns an "IMEI unrecognized" message for our N6. If you call them, you will have no problem getting a free IMEI code directly from AT&T. Been there, done that....
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Actually, the AT&T online tool nearly always returns an "IMEI unrecognized" message for our N6. If you call them, you will have no problem getting a free IMEI code directly from AT&T. Been there, done that....
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No idea that was an issue! And I just paid for another service. =| well I'll call ATT in the morning anyway to see what they can do. Thanks for the suggestion. This G4 is okay, but man do I miss my nexus. So clean and snappy.
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No idea that was an issue! And I just paid for another service. =| well I'll call ATT in the morning anyway to see what they can do. Thanks for the suggestion. This G4 is okay, but man do I miss my nexus. So clean and snappy.
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You can also email AT&T tech support if that's more convenient.
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Actually, the AT&T online tool nearly always returns an "IMEI unrecognized" message for our N6. If you call them, you will have no problem getting a free IMEI code directly from AT&T. Been there, done that....
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They won't give it to you if you are still withing a 2 year contract, or on a finance plan. Been there done that...
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They won't give it to you if you are still withing a 2 year contract, or on a finance plan. Been there done that...
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You are correct, for us civilians. But I understand that the OP is in the military, being posted overseas. They will do it under those circumstances.
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You are correct, for us civilians. But I understand that the OP is in the military, being posted overseas. They will do it under those circumstances.
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Again... Been there done that. Had trouble with them. They are complete pricks when it comes to giving out the code. I have always found it easier to either pay for an unlock or use another method. He could try contacting them, but it will take a few days to process the request and in my experience, they need orders to show the duty station and even then may deny the request. I even had one moron tell me no right off the bat. When asked why, he was like "because national security". I laid into that jackass about how stupid he was and how much BS I knew he was feeding me.
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Again... Been there done that. Had trouble with them. They are complete pricks when it comes to giving out the code. I have always found it easier to either pay for an unlock or use another method. He could try contacting them, but it will take a few days to process the request and in my experience, they need orders to show the duty station and even then may deny the request. I even had one moron tell me no right off the bat. When asked why, he was like "because national security". I laid into that jackass about how stupid he was and how much BS I knew he was feeding me.
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Well that certainly sucks. And their policy says the will SIM unlock for military personnel stationed overseas. FWIW, I had no problem getting an unlock code from them, but my N6 was paid off.
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Well that certainly sucks. And their policy says the will SIM unlock for military personnel stationed overseas. FWIW, I had no problem getting an unlock code from them, but my N6 was paid off.
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You know how it goes. "we say one thing then do the exact opposite" lol
Well its unlocked via the 3rd party service I paid $10 for
For the record, I'm military affiliated as an Army Civilian, but prior service military as well. ATT already has my orders on file as they required them in order to suspend my account for $.01/mo.
At least I have a fully functioning N6 again! Thanks everyone.
Glad to hear. Thanks for your service active or not. :good:
Here we go....another victim to Tmo's overbearing retroactive IMEI blocking
I bought it used from a private seller, now 3 months later the IMEI is blocked.
What can I do about it? No holds barred here. How do I get my phone working again? If it's against XDA rules to openly discuss it, don't...please discreetly point me in the right direction or drop a PM. I'm down for anything....ANYTHING!!!
So please give me a little help...I've done some searching and what I keep seeing is 'maybe...depending on the device'....is N6 one of them it's possible?
Also, just so it's said...I have another Nexus with physical damage, but a valid 100% legit donor IMEI of which I am the original owner, so this isn't an attempt to hijack one from someone....just wanted to make that perfectly clear.
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Here we go....another victim to Tmo's overbearing retroactive IMEI blocking
I bought it used from a private seller, now 3 months later the IMEI is blocked.
What can I do about it? No holds barred here. How do I get my phone working again? If it's against XDA rules to openly discuss it, don't...please discreetly point me in the right direction or drop a PM. I'm down for anything....ANYTHING!!!
So please give me a little help...I've done some searching and what I keep seeing is 'maybe...depending on the device'....is N6 one of them it's possible?
Also, just so it's said...I have another Nexus with physical damage, but a valid 100% legit donor IMEI of which I am the original owner, so this isn't an attempt to hijack one from someone....just wanted to make that perfectly clear.
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sounds like the seller sold you a stolen phone, or one not paid off. there's nothing you can do about it, and talking about changing your imei isn't allowed on XDA.
hp420 said:
Here we go....another victim to Tmo's overbearing retroactive IMEI blocking
I bought it used from a private seller, now 3 months later the IMEI is blocked.
What can I do about it? No holds barred here. How do I get my phone working again? If it's against XDA rules to openly discuss it, don't...please discreetly point me in the right direction or drop a PM. I'm down for anything....ANYTHING!!!
So please give me a little help...I've done some searching and what I keep seeing is 'maybe...depending on the device'....is N6 one of them it's possible?
Also, just so it's said...I have another Nexus with physical damage, but a valid 100% legit donor IMEI of which I am the original owner, so this isn't an attempt to hijack one from someone....just wanted to make that perfectly clear.
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Did you contact t-Mobile to ask why the imei is blocked? Contact the seller for a refund and/or file a police report if he is not willing to do that.
Thanks guys. I did call tmo...we had a lengthy conversation, I was passed to 3 supervisors, escalated ro tier 2, and they still refused to do anything. The customer cancelled service and has an outstanding balance for the device, so Unless I pay for it ($900 they said...I got a great laugh out of that one) they won't do anything for me.
I'm aware IMEI talk usn't allowed in public, which is why I have asked people to keep that discussion OUT of this thread please...don't get this thread closed on me please, people...if you have sonething to say, please PM me.
The thing that's so messed up is I did pay for it already...it's far from my fault if that money never got to the original seller in one way or another, and now they want me to pay for it again just to use it!!! How is this literally not extortion??? Can't I file a police report against Tmo for this? They activated a brand new prepaid sim using the IMEI from the same Nexus 6 just 2 months ago, which, in my eyes, is a guarantee from Tmo that the IMEI is good, no?? I sort of feel like Tmo should be responsible for this since they let me activate it after checking the number.
hp420 said:
Thanks guys. I did call tmo...we had a lengthy conversation, I was passed to 3 supervisors, escalated ro tier 2, and they still refused to do anything. The customer cancelled service and has an outstanding balance for the device, so Unless I pay for it ($900 they said...I got a great laugh out of that one) they won't do anything for me.
I'm aware IMEI talk usn't allowed in public, which is why I have asked people to keep that discussion OUT of this thread please...don't get this thread closed on me please, people...if you have sonething to say, please PM me.
The thing that's so messed up is I did pay for it already...it's far from my fault if that money never got to the original seller in one way or another, and now they want me to pay for it again just to use it!!! How is this literally not extortion??? Can't I file a police report against Tmo for this? They activated a brand new prepaid sim using the IMEI from the same Nexus 6 just 2 months ago, which, in my eyes, is a guarantee from Tmo that the IMEI is good, no?? I sort of feel like Tmo should be responsible for this since they let me activate it after checking the number.
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It all depends on when he canceled the contract. This is why I never buy used devices unless I know the person. T-mobile and many carriers are doing this because of things just like this. Its not their fault. It is the person that sold you the device. You could file a police report against that person for selling stolen property.
As @zelendel said, it depends on when he canceled the contract. I agree it's not your fault that the money didn't get to the original seller, but what T-Mobile does isn't extortion because they still own the phone as long as there are payments left on it. It sucks, and I can only imagine the spot you're in. But T-Mobile, as the original owner of the device, is within their rights to block the IMEI.
Keep in mind that T-Mobile blocking the IMEI on their network is different from blacklisting the IMEI. In the case of the former, it only applies to the T-Mobile network and covers non-payment of the monthly charge for the equipment. The latter applies to all carriers and covers if the device is lost or stolen.
In short, if the device is blocked, you can try it on AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, or any of their MVNOs. If it's blacklisted, the device likely won't work at all on any carrier. There are of course no guarantees that using another carrier will work, but as this apparently isn't a lost or stolen phone the chances of being able to use the device are high.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
As @zelendel said, it depends on when he canceled the contract. I agree it's not your fault that the money didn't get to the original seller, but what T-Mobile does isn't extortion because they still own the phone as long as there are payments left on it. It sucks, and I can only imagine the spot you're in. But T-Mobile, as the original owner of the device, is within their rights to block the IMEI.
Keep in mind that T-Mobile blocking the IMEI on their network is different from blacklisting the IMEI. In the case of the former, it only applies to the T-Mobile network and covers non-payment of the monthly charge for the equipment. The latter applies to all carriers and covers if the device is lost or stolen.
In short, if the device is blocked, you can try it on AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, or any of their MVNOs. If it's blacklisted, the device likely won't work at all on any carrier. There are of course no guarantees that using another carrier will work, but as this apparently isn't a lost or stolen phone the chances of being able to use the device are high.
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How about a Tmo mvno? Is metro going to block me, as well?
hp420 said:
How about a Tmo mvno? Is metro going to block me, as well?
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Yes because it still uses their network.
hp420 said:
How about a Tmo mvno? Is metro going to block me, as well?
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Use the xposed route I PM u about
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If your other nexus' board still works, why not swap boards? Not ideal, but at least you would have at least one working phone.
Port to cricket
mike102871 said:
Port to cricket
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They're AT&T...no thanks
chapelfreak said:
If your other nexus' board still works, why not swap boards? Not ideal, but at least you would have at least one working phone.
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Busted motherboard. I appreciate the input, though.
hp420 said:
Busted motherboard. I appreciate the input, though.
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https://swappa.com/boneyard/post/KV6XQ9
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Port to cricket is your easiest and quickest fix. Nothing wrong with the service. Been using it for a year.
I've been using Straight Talk for several years now. No problems with them, and they are a MVNO that has agreements for all the US networks.
Since T-Mobile isn't available, you don't like AT&T, and Sprint is terrible, your only real option is Verizon.
mike102871 said:
Port to cricket is your easiest and quickest fix. Nothing wrong with the service. Been using it for a year.
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I know they aren't, but they screwed me on data several years ago. I promised they would never see another dime from me, and I'm a man of my word lol
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I've been using Straight Talk for several years now. No problems with them, and they are a MVNO that has agreements for all the US networks.
Since T-Mobile isn't available, you don't like AT&T, and Sprint is terrible, your only real option is Verizon.
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Sprint is actually kinda ok where I live. I had them back in the WiMax days and I was always confused what all the complaining was about...I guess I was just lucky, but my Nexus S got some awesome "4g" (TOTALLY unlimited too)
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https://swappa.com/boneyard/post/KV6XQ9
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It's been a thought, but if I need to farm the IMEI from that device I can't sell it. Thanks though!
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Use the xposed route I PM u about
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Thank you!! I'm not ignoring you, bud I'm running N preview and I haven't had time to flash a 6.0 rom to test this. It's on my to-do list, though. If that actually works I'd be pretty happy with it at least as a temporary fix...just too bad it's totally dependant on xposed, you know? That could put a real damper on updating it, which is like 90% of what makes Nexus devices so awesome. Thanks for the idea, though!
@hp420,
If you bought on Swappa or eBay and paid with PayPal... PayPal's buyer protection is good for 180 days after purchase. File a claim against the seller on PayPal. Device "Significantly not as Described". You will get your money back, for sure....
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@hp420,
If you bought on Swappa or eBay and paid with PayPal... PayPal's buyer protection is good for 180 days after purchase. File a claim against the seller on PayPal. Device "Significantly not as Described". You will get your money back, for sure....
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I wish Private sale, and I thought I could trust the guy. Lesson learned.
hp420 said:
Thanks guys. I did call tmo...we had a lengthy conversation, I was passed to 3 supervisors, escalated ro tier 2, and they still refused to do anything. The customer cancelled service and has an outstanding balance for the device, so Unless I pay for it ($900 they said...I got a great laugh out of that one) they won't do anything for me.
I'm aware IMEI talk usn't allowed in public, which is why I have asked people to keep that discussion OUT of this thread please...don't get this thread closed on me please, people...if you have sonething to say, please PM me.
The thing that's so messed up is I did pay for it already...it's far from my fault if that money never got to the original seller in one way or another, and now they want me to pay for it again just to use it!!! How is this literally not extortion??? Can't I file a police report against Tmo for this? They activated a brand new prepaid sim using the IMEI from the same Nexus 6 just 2 months ago, which, in my eyes, is a guarantee from Tmo that the IMEI is good, no?? I sort of feel like Tmo should be responsible for this since they let me activate it after checking the number.
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I agree that the private phone sales situation is in a pretty sad state. In fact, I would go so far as to say that it is fraudulent on the part of the service providers. They should either provide an easily accessible lookup database (this would have to be a joint database among *all* service providers) to validate that a device is unencumbered, or forgive the "new" owner if the original skipped town.
Normally I would say that a problem with a product should be handled between buyer and seller, but in this case, that doesn't secure the buyer at all.
The service provider just wants to sell you a new phone.
so I've been robbed twice by this service I will no longer use the service I'm trying to get my money back. I've been in contact with these people, he asked me if I got my money back like come on now you would know if you issued me a refund or now they've been playing games with me they told me to install this app some kind of unlocking app and it was a lie it was all a lie but they took my money and now they're refusing to give it back anyone who's experienced this please get back to me I'm interested in trying to see if we can go after them because I'm not the first person they've done this to. no matter where you're from you do business here in America or using American policies you have to buy by the law that's just what it is you're selling a dummy service and that's not right. every time I enter my email to track my order it says server is busy but I know that was a fake set up as well because when I press enter it said the same thing so that's a lie. We need to act as one XDA is an important community and it's members are what makes it thrive. You're not sure about the service don't pump them because you're helping them with the LIE
Just curious, wouldn't contacting your carrier have been a better and a secure choice? I know tmobile unlocked a couple of phones for me after a certain period of time. Also, this website is built so poorly that it screams scam.
I chatted with the guys 1 Minute ago.
That smells like scam x1000 !
Iam using Note 9 Exynos (Europe, Germany,DBT) and we in germany dont have Sim or Netlock anymore.
I asked the Chatguy if they unlock Exynos Note 9 with DBT-"Branding"(Its no branding, it means : FREE) too, and he thold me : "Yes !"....
Totally scam. Realy, you have Netlock in the US ? And do you guys have Simlock too ?
And what if you flash via Odin a brandingfree rom ? Does it unlock the phone ?
Sorry this happened I used CellUnlocker once and they are great. Know it doesnt help your situation but for future reference.
Sent from my SM-N950U TWIZtd Vengeance Rom
K-alz said:
Just curious, wouldn't contacting your carrier have been a better and a secure choice? I know tmobile unlocked a couple of phones for me after a certain period of time. Also, this website is built so poorly that it screams scam.
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Don't you think had I been able to use the phone company I would have. Mr know it all comments aren't necessary.
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I chatted with the guys 1 Minute ago.
That smells like scam x1000 !
Iam using Note 9 Exynos (Europe, Germany,DBT) and we in germany dont have Sim or Netlock anymore.
I asked the Chatguy if they unlock Exynos Note 9 with DBT-"Branding"(Its no branding, it means : FREE) too, and he thold me : "Yes !"....
Totally scam. Realy, you have Netlock in the US ? And do you guys have Simlock too ?
And what if you flash via Odin a brandingfree rom ? Does it unlock the phone ?[/QUOTE.
I don't think it's a US company that is providing false unlocking services, they've been in contact with me and some of their messages were in Russian. Maybe to throw me off but I believe it's a shell company of some sorts
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Sorry if I repost your thread on my response. Still learning how to use XDA completely
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Don't you think had I been able to use the phone company I would have. Mr know it all comments aren't necessary.
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You didn't specify your device in your original post. So, I'd assumed that you had a carrier that provides that service like we do here in the US. My apologies if I gave a "Mr know it all" impression, non of that was my intention.
Carriers here in the US do unlock your phone after you've had it for a certain amount of time. My advice to you for next time is to start a thread here asking people to post their best and most trusted unlocking websites that they have actually used before, before going on your own to some random websites that you don't know much about.
We are always here to help, buddy. Sorry about what happened to you and I hope it wasn't a big chunk of money they've scammed you on.
If you unlock your phone and it is not paid off( you dont own it) and you unlock it through a third party. Then you stop paying the bill for the device then your carrier will black list the phone. You wont be able to use it with prepaid services or other carriers. Once you put a different sim in the device even though its unlocked. The phone will start Burning your sim cards so they dont work anymore. Only thing you can do is have an imei "repair" done. Or just change the csc code to a different country and just never use the original carrier which is easier.
I also totally agree with K-alz. This site does not look reputable at all. Take for instance all their claims like "Official service Even Samsung employees use our service to unlock their phones". Or even the fact you can enter anything you want into their text fields for your phone. Hell, at least the IMEI field should only accept numbers. Looks like a total scam...
On a side note, I had some fun with them:
IMEI: YOU GUYS ARE F****** JOKES
Samsung Model: WHO NEED TO
Carrier: STOP RIPPING OFF PEOPLE. YOU ARE BEING REPORTED TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES. BYE BYE
I do hope you can get your money back, but I would definitely not trust these kind of sites in the future.
Edit: I doubt it will go anywhere, but I just called Samsung to let them know of this specific site using Samsung's logos, and making fraudulent claims. Gave the URL, and the guy I talked to stated he would bring it to his supervisor/manager.
I'm sorry you have had your money stolen from you by a fake service, but I do have to add that this is such a painfully obvious scam, the site just screams fake, throwing money at services you're unsure of or that aren't reputable is never a good idea, stick to proper authorised services in the future, hopefully this is a lesson to others considering doing the same thing, good luck with getting your money back
Not good.
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/samsungsimunlock.com
Sent from my Still Rooted NOTE 8