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Anyone sick of their O2X and moving to the 4S?

Dont get me wrong. The O2X community has grown considerably from the first time I got the phone 6 months ago. There's CM7, MIUI and leaked GB roms around which are all close to 100% functional.
However, I know for a fact the battery life in most if not all Android phones are average at best. That's the case with the O2X too. Even below average I should say. I still have no idea how you guys can have it last more that a day. Even with all the battery-saving tips, the most I can make it last is around 12 hours.
Another problem is LG itself. Official GB is yet to land after all these months. Hopes of an official ICS by LG is all but gone.
My point is, has anyone jumped ships to iOS? Going back to iOS after almost a full year with the Dell Streak and the O2X.

no i would NEVER get a ****ty iphone not even if it was free

Na, never purchased a apple product and never will.
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I got my O2X for the price of a 3GS not a 4S! I'd agree it's hardly the best phone if money is no object, but it's a hell of a lot better than the 3GS for the money.
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I got the o2x just to have an android device to play with and it was dirt cheap. I've never had the problems people speak of. Even though it isn't the smoothest I will never buy an apple device simply because their design is against upgrading/modding it yourself.
I plan to never buy an apple product unless their whole philosophy changes.
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3.5 Inch screen size are you kidding, no way. If you want to change ur device go for Nexus Prime, you will no longer need to wait six months for update.
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12 hours?
I have CM nightly #171 and it goes for 2 days on regular usage...

Here we talk about Smartphones.
Not about toys.

dude I dont know how you use your phone, are you playing games on it alot?? if not, how is it that you only last for 12 hours??

droweed said:
dude I dont know how you use your phone, are you playing games on it alot?? if not, how is it that you only last for 12 hours??
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I don't game at all. I only have one home screen. But 3G is always on cos I use whatsapp alot. I'm also considering galaxy nexus and galaxy note. If they arrive here soon.
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Never Going for an apple product...Anyway i bought my o2x for custom roms..and we have cm7 and miui...soon we get cm9...so m not that worried really.

I dont know why but when i surf on the net with wifi my phone battery drops very fast. In on topogigi 2.0 with HP rc4 with -50 undervolt on alla clocks and no overclock, BB 823 and matching ril, retroillumination is set to 20%. I unplugged the phone at 7 o'clock, used google nav for 30 minuts, and surfed for 3 hours, and now the battery is 20%. I can't understand why :-(
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sacredsoul said:
I don't game at all. I only have one home screen. But 3G is always on cos I use whatsapp alot. I'm also considering galaxy nexus and galaxy note. If they arrive here soon.
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ohh I see the problem there, you cant find a phone these days with 3g always on and lasting any longer than that... 3g/mobile data is a battery hog, we all know that sadly even if you try other droids, you wont get any higher battery than that

droweed said:
ohh I see the problem there, you cant find a phone these days with 3g always on and lasting any longer than that... 3g/mobile data is a battery hog, we all know that sadly even if you try other droids, you wont get any higher battery than that
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yes you can get better battery then 12 hours, i have minimum 24 hours on my phone with nomal-heavy use

DJ Palmis said:
Here we talk about Smartphones.
Not about toys.
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So what are you doing with your smartphone? Toying?
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Except LG Update issues and battery I'm really satisfied with 2x It;'s cost-effective. As we always talks negetive which is true let's take a look at positive aspects.
First of all display yep it does has bleeding issue but IPS display is adorable in compare to AMOLED plus.
And sooner or later they'll release kernel sources of GB and that will massively progress development and Soon we can taste ICS from CM
And battery first of all 1500mAH is not sufficient evenif S2 with 1600 has battery probs but you could always buy a battery >2400mAh battery cant be a good reason to change a device.
As per the price we've got more than enough.

spica1234 said:
Except LG Update issues and battery I'm really satisfied with 2x It;'s cost-effective. As we always talks negetive which is true let's take a look at positive aspects.
First of all display yep it does has bleeding issue but IPS display is adorable in compare to AMOLED plus.
And sooner or later they'll release kernel sources of GB and that will massively progress development and Soon we can taste ICS from CM
And battery first of all 1500mAH is not sufficient evenif S2 with 1600 has battery probs but you could always buy a battery >2400mAh battery cant be a good reason to change a device.
As per the price we've got more than enough.
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Completely agree
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Sick of LG for sure but never a iphone. Samsung our HTC again after this
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For me, it was a mistake to purchase the P990, but the move from iOS to Android was eye-opening. I will never go back to iOS again.

akyp said:
For me, it was a mistake to purchase the P990, but the move from iOS to Android was eye-opening. I will never go back to iOS again.
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EPIC !!

SAR, Radiation, that kind of thing

You're probably not going to like this thread.
SAR levels... phone radiation, that kind of thing.
This isn't something I worry about that much but I've noticed some things since upgrading my phone over the years. Also, I've been in some areas with lots of radio waves and then in areas where there are very few radio waves and I have to say
If you think you don't believe in radio as pollution try standing in the middle of the rainforest where there is no power, no phone signal and you'll feel a sense of peace than cannot be compared to in an isolation tank in a city.
When you do this contrast a number of times I come back to the city and there's this sense of buzzing. Bear in mind this is from the ocean to a high rise apartment. I'm 100% sure I'm not imagining it, though I always accept the placebo effect where I could be imagining it, I've seen it so many times now and so clearly I'm adamant the human body's electrical nervous system can be effected by a lot/strong magnetic fields.
Basically I've noticed in years gone by that newer phones seem to feel like they're emitting more power than they did before when idle, but emitting less power when in use.
The reason I think this is because it used to take 20mins on the phone before getting a headache with a Phillips Savvy but that now takes now that takes 35-1hr on a Android gen of device.
However, if I use a modern phone and it's right in the centre of my chest I swear I can feel it. I wonder if there's been any double-blind tests on this. The thing is, I have WiFi on browsing like this and also 3G is at 2 bars but this feeling continues a little in 3G and a very tiny amount in airplane mode. This makes me think there's a magnet in there even during airplane mode. So, is the magnetometer always engaged like it seems to feel? Can we turn that off when not in use to save battery or is that proximity sensor always on?
As I say, I only don't like using the phone with it near my heart, I don't sense any problem anywhere else. Then again, more electrical signals come from the heart to the brain then the other way round so it could be a sensitive area.
Regards bluetooth. I checked out bluetooth headsets because they say the sweep spectrum should reduce area heating and so a SAR rating wouldn't even be possible. But that wasn't what it felt like. I still get headaches with bluetooth headsets, it's just greatly reduced. I figured it's pointless if it's not really working.
After a lot of research I found tube headphones and I use these just for longer calls.
The next thing I'm thinking is to optimise how the phone uses radio and sensors. This should be automated. I'd like to know how to turn off wifi when a connection drops rather than doing it by location in tasker for example. The same sort of thing should be done with GSM & 3G switching so what isn't needed is turned off. All of this meshes nicely with battery life - the 2 are synonymous. Why not enable call forwarding, carry a 2nd phone for GSM and only go out of offline mode for when you need to do something?
However, if my intuition is correct (this is one of the reasons I'm posting this thread), then SAR is just one of 3 radio signals coming out of the phone excluding electricity itself (EMF source).
So,
- so you get headaches during long phone call in the vicinity of the phone?
- do you find it easier to think clearly when on a wired connection compared to WiFi?
- have you thought about this much?
WiFi has been found to effect sperm mobility for definite but other than than it's all pretty unproven. WiFi seems to be lower power but somehow worse than GSM. Not sure about 3G.
However, phones are getting more and more powerful. 3G uses more battery than GSM and WiFi is an additional signal. Then we got 4G WiMax and all the rest on the way. Plus as I mentioned the seemingly minor development of the magnetometer. Is there any limit?
I never used to care that much until I experienced an electrically quiet place and then had to return to the drudgery of the city.
I still feel it's a subtle thing, but the effect for me can actually be very clear now, something that wasn't so for me in the days of GSM only, back then I didn't believe in all this at all.
Another thing I find is that typing on a computer without WiFi is somehow easier to think in a linear way without getting thoughts interrupted. I know, I know, this is a bit much now.
There is less energy coming off of your cell phone's radio transmitter than there is coming off of your computer screen that you interpret as visible light.. but the difference is that light bounces off mostly and if it doesn't it's burning your skin.
So, there's a load of info for you. Also some fixes too. Hopefully these things aren't a problem for you but also I hope to find people to discuss it with.
One thing I never understood was when training in the Air Corp we were taught to keep distance from UHF radios 25 years ago but then in the 90's and 00's phone radiation was not taken seriously at all and we still get people joking about it like it's taboo.
All this is very inconvenient for a tech addict. Obviously I've gone out on a limb with this thread. Be kind
Previous threads for reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826585
Some comments on previous discussions:
"Radio waves are not ionizing, and thus do not carry enough energy to pose any danger whatsoever"
^ I agree there is no immediate effect, but I disagree that a electromagnetic field from a mobile phone does not interfere with an electromagnetic field from the human nervous system
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484313
^ background data. Good to disable to save battery... but does push email need that? If so then personally I might switch to a poll every 30mins and turning off and on data.

Man you really believe that electrically quiet stuff huh?
--sent from my glacier.

110%!
I bet you've never been somewhere without electricity and a phone signal? Try it

tl;dr
cliff note anyone?

boborone said:
tl;dr
cliff note anyone?
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TL; DR VERSION
He says (not bashing) pretty much that the worlds full of waves from electronics, compares them, provides remedys. Talks about waveless places example the jungle, and says there's a slight feel he gets around said waves
--sent from my glacier.

Well, if you're "scared" of high SAR values, i would recommend you to get the Note. It's extremely low at 0.16 W/kg, and it looks like it's the lowest of all cell phones today. I personally don't care about SAR, but i can't complain if it scores well.
- Galaxy Note = 0.16 W/kg
- Samsung Galaxy S = 0.24 W/kg
- Samsung Galaxy S II = 0.33 W/kg
- Samsung Nexus S = 0.50 W/kg
- iPhone 3GS = 0.79 W/kg
- iPhone = 0.97 W/kg
- ZTE Blade - 1,35 W/kg
- iPhone 3G = 1.38 W/kg
- Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro = 1,61 W/kg (!)

LordManhattan said:
Well, if you're "scared" of high SAR values, i would recommend you to get the Note. It's extremely low at 0.16 W/kg, and it looks like it's the lowest of all cell phones today. I personally don't care about SAR, but i can't complain if it scores well.
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Ah but one of the points I'm making is that the SAR is only for some of the function on the phone. I think it only covers 2G or 3G during a call. Afaik it's not covering WiFi, WiMax, sensors and also EMF which shielding is there to shield against you see. I guess what's needed is more info on SAR because while I know it's basic I wonder how basic it is. Holding a EMF meter next to a phone would be interesting too. In fact I have another android now so when I got this i9000 fixed I'll hold
Another point I am making is that according to the SAR values my i9000 should be better than my old Phillips Savvy but what I'm saying is that this is not what it feels like.
My guess for why this might be could be because a SAR rating only measures local tissue heating as if the amount of radiation is the only factor. What I'm saying is that it's not simply the peak power output that's important but also what is being transmitted.
I believe WiFi is lower power but it's closer to the frequency at which the human nervous system works.
Thanks for those SAR values, that's interesting. I don't think I'd be able to tell the difference between those values and to be honest I'm not that bothered. It's more of an interesting thing to talk about for me. The iphone looks interesting though, it would be nice to actually use one and see if it actually makes a difference in everyday use.
One thing to clarify is that while I'm totally sure that I can feel radiowaves I'm not too sure that it makes much of a difference to health, especially seeing as flying is a massive dose of radiation and so on.
More more thing to add, the signal effect drops off almost exponentially so if you hold it just 1cm from your ear you've made a reduction. I also prefer to keep it away from the centreline of the body, away from the spine.
That said, I wonder if SAR ratings are a cynical way to sell more phones, no?

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jago25_98 said:
110%!
I bet you've never been somewhere without electricity and a phone signal? Try it
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Wales? East Anglia?
Arabian desert? Never noticed any difference.
Mobile operators in the UK have run their own tests where they've told people that a mast is active (and received assurances that those people can feel the EMF resulting in headaches/palpitations) when the masts have actually been off.
In the 70s and 80s it was electricity pylons being blamed for cancer, now people have grown up not thinking twice about them hypochondriacs have latched onto mobile masts, wifi (remember those "leave a chicken breast on your router and it'll cook" stories?), and now they're starting to blame wind farms.

Honestly, your perception is likely heavily weighted by the fact that in cities, etc you know all those devices are surrounding you. Most of what you are feeling is psychosomatic all things considered. Whatever the case, the only way to know will be long-term, properly-executed studies where perception biases can be overridden.

I live in the woods.
Nice and peaceful.
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A house in the woods, mmm, get your coat, you've pulled. How would you like your eggs in the morning? Hard boiled or fertilised?

jago25_98 said:
A house in the woods, mmm, get your coat, you've pulled. How would you like your eggs in the morning? Hard boiled or fertilised?
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Are you Annie Wilkes?

LordManhattan said:
Are you Annie Wilkes?
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Don't be silly, she hasn't got a do-do.
She's standing behind me whispering directions to KRAZYADROIDMASTER with her micro sock puppet in my ear

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I think I regret buying the Nexus 4

I had the HTC One S before, but wanted the Google Nexus experience (vanilla Android, latest updates (and on this phone compared to the One S quad core, 2GB RAM, etc..) and the price was too good to pass up. I mean, the value for money with this phone is amazing, I don't think I have ever seen, or will ever see better, but...
Coming from the One S, it seems like a huge step down. The phone seems a lot bigger in comparison (mainly width and especially depth), yet when taking into consideration the on screen back/home buttons, the screen is pretty much the same size, but a little wider (maybe 5mm)
Also, when doing a Quadrant test, the One S looks much smoother on the video parts, and the overall score is miles better (score of 6452 vs 4798) on everything
One S v Nexus 4
CPU: 9211 v 10402
RAM: 12383 v 7020
I/O: 7408 v 4149
2D: 1014 v 247
3D: 2245 v 2173
The One S also has HTC Sense which I like (but can live without)
Maybe I will get used to this phone, or just appreciate it more when the next update comes out, but in the mean time I don't really see a huge improvement in speed/responsiveness or the screen over the One S
I can imagine it being a huge improvement over plenty of other phones however, but I think the One S is unbelievably underrated and actually more powerful than I thought it was before. I feel like the Nexus 4 is a downgrade for me right now. I understand the Nexus is thicker because of the wireless charging plate? Well, this is something I would give up for a slimmer phone, especially considering the phone doesn't come with a wireless charging unit.
I don't wanna sound like I'm just bashing the phone, is there anything I should try out on the Nexus 4 that I would be missing on other phones (already tried Photosphere which is great btw)

There is already a nexus 4 vs any other phone thread present as a sticky in which this should have been posted. Didn't need a whole new thread dedicated to this
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Honestly, noone cares...

I think I regret reading your thread

ingenious247 said:
I think I regret reading your thread
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Awe man you beat me to it:good:

Eh, if anything, I'm sure you could probably trade back for a One S.
Both are great phones, but at least you can say you gave the Nexus 4 a try.

I don't get why people care so much about the quadrant score. Nexus 4 runs very smooth; no lag at all. Does it makes you feel special when u see a higher number? Most of the stuff OP mentioned could been avoided if he/she done a little research before purchasing N4. It all comes down each user likeness. Now days just Google any phone vs any phone and you will see a very great comparison of every spec.
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badboy47 said:
I don't get why people care so much about the quadrant score. Nexus 4 runs very smooth; no lag at all. Does it makes you feel special when u see a higher number? Most of the stuff OP mentioned could been avoided if he/she done a little research before purchasing N4. It all comes down each user likeness. Now days just Google any phone vs any phone and you will see a very great comparison of every spec.
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This. Quadrant is a random number generator at best.

naripsta said:
Eh, if anything, I'm sure you could probably trade back for a One S.
Both are great phones, but at least you can say you gave the Nexus 4 a try.
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I like the Nexus 4, but I really like the One S too
In fact one thing I just noticed (found in another Google search) is if you put them side by side on a table they're the same depth (of course the One S is slimmer in the middle)
Maybe I need to get used to the feel of it...
I'm gonna use the Nexus 4 for one full week instead of the One S and see how it goes
Anything you recommend me trying out on the N4?
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I don't get why people care so much about the quadrant score. Nexus 4 runs very smooth; no lag at all. Does it makes you feel special when u see a higher number? Most of the stuff OP mentioned could been avoided if he/she done a little research before purchasing N4. It all comes down each user likeness. Now days just Google any phone vs any phone and you will see a very great comparison of every spec.
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Nah I don't care about the Quadrant score, but the scores just really surprised me. I think the RAM comes down to LPDDR2 (low power DDR2 instead of DDR2) and I don't know about the I/O (thought it was all flash storage)
The GPU results surprised me though (the video looks smoother) as I thought the N4 had a dedicated GPU chip?
One of the problems I think is everybody compares phones to the One X, nobody has really done any great One S v Nexus 4 comparisons

The nexus 4 runs fast, is a great phone to use, has sufficient battery life for me, and cost half of the HTC phone you mentioned.
I really don't see the point in running benchmarks all day and not worrying about real usage and real cost. If you want to be a benchmark jockey you will always be running after the latest and greatest phone and lusting after every new phone ever 2 months.
The nexus 4 is a great phone and a solid purchase. If you regret buying it, sell it and get something else. But if your nexus 4 isn't defective in some way realize that the problem is with you and your inability to be happy with anything, and not with the phone that is a great performer and great value. I can already see that you're the kind of guy who will never be happy with anything, as you owned an HTC One S and then bought a phone that came out 6 months later. You won't be happy with anything as long as you see something shinier. You are the perfect customer.

Quadrant gets weird scores on Nexus 4, no one really 100% sure why.
Try Antutu, with a bionic optimised rom (most roms have this now) you get 21000+ scores; Antutu had to be updated when Nexus 4 (with 4.2.1) came out because of weird low scores, quadrant was never updated.
Also get your full screen by removing the nav bar and using something else like pie controls from LMT.
edit.. also '3dmark' test will show you the adreno320 in the nexus4 blowing everything else away.

You're incredibly stupid to base your phone choice over some benchmarks.

meangreenie said:
Quadrant gets weird scores on Nexus 4, no one really 100% sure why.
Try Antutu, with a bionic optimised rom (most roms have this now) you get 21000+ scores; Antutu had to be updated when Nexus 4 (with 4.2.1) came out because of weird low scores, quadrant was never updated.
Also get your full screen by removing the nav bar and using something else like pie controls from LMT.
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Yeah, I have seen some people posting Quadrant scores of like 7500+ on the Nexus 4
I'm still running stock everything (unrooted) - maybe I need to just root it and try some different ROMs, etc..
Pie Control looks sweet too, will check it out

bsaidmalta said:
You're incredibly stupid to base your phone choice over some benchmarks.
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leave it out

Quadrant doesnt like 4.2. Antutu and 3Dmark are better guages of performance.

LooieENG said:
Anything you recommend me trying out on the N4?
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Hmm, not sure really. The Nexus 4 is pretty much that, a Nexus device with pure Android. I can see why it may (not saying that it does for you) be boring or not as flashy. But there's not much to try out for the Nexus 4. Everything is pretty basic and minimalistic, and that's why some go for the Nexus I suppose.
With the N4, you get a decent device that can run with the best of them. If you're into flashing ROMs, pretty much almost every ROM posted here will work with very very minimal bugs, if any bugs at that. Although the One S isn't a bad device at all, so it's really up to you. :good:

My Nexus 4 absolutely fly's.. it speeds through everything.
It's all well and good having a number on a screen but I owned a HTC ONE briefly and many apps on that lagged yet run fine on my Nexus 4?

Oh great another one of these threads. IB4L
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Can you please give your phone to me? I will pay you 50 $ because its so not good and you can go back to your wonderfull htc one s... :banghead:
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LooieENG said:
Yeah, I have seen some people posting Quadrant scores of like 7500+ on the Nexus 4
I'm still running stock everything (unrooted) - maybe I need to just root it and try some different ROMs, etc..
Pie Control looks sweet too, will check it out
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yea, if you are running your device at 1.8ghz+ and have other things optimized(custom rom/custom kernel), itll score high. at stock speeds and the stock rom/kernel it will never get close.
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battery life discussion

Hi guys, if you use nexus 4, I think you will be probably disappointed by the battery life of nexus 4. Things seems to changed this year.
Here's what Google says about nexus 5's battery life
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It seems pretty good compare with nexus 4, based on the way how Google test the device and the result.
I can't wait to receive my new nexus 5 :laugh:
How you guys think? Are you satisfy with the battery life?
update:
according http://www.android.com/versions/kit-kat-4-4/ said, the nexus 5 maudio playback can up to 60 hrs, witch is really incredible!!!

did you notice by any chance that battery test has been don on airplane/no sim with wifi on?
Any cellural reception has significant impact on battery life therefore it is most likley goi9ng to be the same or worse due to size of the screen vs battery capacity

MattSkeet said:
did you notice by any chance that battery test has been don on airplane/no sim with wifi on?
Any cellural reception has significant impact on battery life therefore it is most likley goi9ng to be the same or worse due to size of the screen vs battery capacity
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Yes I do notice, but for the LTE internet browsing 7 hrs are pretty awesome, and they are using the default settings with wifi on

jasonlu1992 said:
Hi guys, if you use nexus 4, I think you will be probably disappointed by the battery life of nexus 4. Things seems to changed this year.
Here's what Google says about nexus 5's battery life
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It seems pretty good compare with nexus 4, based on the way how Google test the device and the result.
I can't wait to receive my new nexus 5 :laugh:
How you guys think? Are you satisfy with the battery life?
update:
according http://www.android.com/versions/kit-kat-4-4/ said, the nexus 5 maudio playback can up to 60 hrs, witch is really incredible!!!
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audio playback

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audio playback
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Damn.... After going from bad to worse in my last devices (from SGS, to SGS2, to Gnex), it looks like I'm finally gonna be satisfied with the battery life of my phone.

Molitro said:
Damn.... After going from bad to worse in my last devices (from SGS, to SGS2, to Gnex), it looks like I'm finally gonna be satisfied with the battery life of my phone.
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The same here. the specs even look better than iphone, lol

I think it might have something to do with the optimized OS. The phone can run the OS with a minimum of 512mb of the RAM. I was pretty disappointed with the Nexus 4 battery life but it was better than the Galaxy Nexus for sure.
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Anyone know if the Nexus 5 also has G-RAM that's in the LG G2? supposedly helps improve battery life of display by about 20% if it's displaying static pages.

Hey guys, just joining the discussion for the upcoming news about the battery from all of you.
Personally, I am going to wait for a while until the typical problems of a "newborn phone" get solved.... IF THERE IS FOUND ANY, which I hope not. :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:

I hope the battery life isn't too bad. I decided to skip getting the LG G2 and instead ordered the N5.

How do you think the battery life compares to the GS4?
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Battery life shouldn't be that bad at all i suppose. From years now we are used to charge our phones one per day at least...this won't change for the n5. That said, i think this is a big failure of modern smartphones. Lg is tring to make a change, and it's a point to his favour i think.

Alfonso87 said:
Battery life shouldn't be that bad at all i suppose. From years now we are used to charge our phones one per day at least...this won't change for the n5. That said, i think this is a big failure of modern smartphones. Lg is tring to make a change, and it's a point to his favour i think.
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Failure of a smartphone? What makes you say that? The software that is debuting with the phone is a huge push forward in mobile communications, that's at least a little win.

The thing that will probably greatly help the N5's battery life is that it's the Snapdragon 800... which has the same "bonus core" that the G2, Moto X, and other devices have that allows very little battery usage while the phone is asleep, while still being able to do stuff like play music.

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Failure of a smartphone? What makes you say that? The software that is debuting with the phone is a huge push forward in mobile communications, that's at least a little win.
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You've misread him.
He was saying that the battery life is a failing of all current smartphones. Not that the N5 is a failure of a phone

Dan1909 said:
You've misread him.
He was saying that the battery life is a failing of all current smartphones. Not that the N5 is a failure of a phone
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whoops! My derp there. In that case yea, I'll agree. Google should have but in a bigger battery, but alas I think they're really trying to stick with the philosophy of it being a developer's phone and less of a general consumer's phone.
That said the battery thing is the only thing stopping me from placing my order this very second...

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Failure of a smartphone? What makes you say that? The software that is debuting with the phone is a huge push forward in mobile communications, that's at least a little win.
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I mean a failure of a generation of phones. Before the advent of smartphones the recharge of a phone came, how much a week? Three times? Even twice on some phones. That said, we had a great progression on software and hardware, with a clear loss in term of duration per single charge.
The advancement in hardware and software were not matched by the advancement in battery tecnology.
Someone said that you can build the best car at all, but you will need good wheels to make it run faster..Or in our case, to make it "run" xD

Got to admit, I'm a little dissapointed they didn't throw a USB 3.0 port on this beast for multi-charge bonuses :/

drew_grant said:
I think it might have something to do with the optimized OS. The phone can run the OS with a minimum of 512mb of the RAM. I was pretty disappointed with the Nexus 4 battery life but it was better than the Galaxy Nexus for sure.
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Amazing Google designed 4.4 to run on devices with as low as 512mb of Ram but they are not updating the Galaxy Nexus to 4.4.

[email protected] said:
Amazing Google designed 4.4 to run on devices with as low as 512mb of Ram but they are not updating the Galaxy Nexus to 4.4.
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It's not because of the RAM, it's because of the processor. The manufacturer stopped supporting it.

Which Hardware Revision do you have?

Hi,
After reading in another thread that there are different Hardware Revs i took another look at my Box and found out that's true.
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So how many different version are there? Someone said he had Rev 3.
How is the distribution? Timebased? and How many of each...
And most important, what's the difference.... anyone knows anything?
So, as you can see in the Picture above, i got the H8216 in Rev 2.
What do you have?

I don't know about differences but I have revision 3.

H8266 revision 3 here.
I'm not sure if I am not noticing it, but I do not experience touch screen sensitivity issues when I play games or maybe they are minimal. Granted I play rhythm games and mobile rpgs, not fps or fighting games so maybe its just me.

H8296 Rev 2

H8266 Rev 3

This thread is pointless if revisions are not linked with specific comparisons in behaviour.

Revision 1, and I'm having massive heat issues. Recording videos, especially with SteadyShot, HDR and 4K activated is stopped after 7 to 10 minutes usually, because the phone got too hot. I'd like to know if later revisions fix these issues.

Does Revision 3 fix the hardware issues?

I have Deep Green H8266 (Rev 3).
I don't experience too much heating issue and don't experience touch sensitivity issue either. Battery life is great and can be really amazing, a lot of time (reaching the point where I'm struggling to drain the phone's battery at night, just because I want to charge the phone at 15%). It is also lightning fast, superb gaming performance, and has great multitasking performance, too.

H8266 Rev 4 here, just bought it a couple of weeks ago after frying my Z5p, I had no intention on getting this phone, was going to wait til the end of the year to see what Sony will offer but necessity obliged ?
Absolutely zero issues, no heat or screen sensitivity as other mentioned, this thing stays cool and is lighting fast, battery life is insane, crossed a few times 10+ hours of SOT...just waiting tight for a drm fix to root and xposed (whenever that is)
The only thing that bugs me is the esthetic of the phone, not a fan of the back side at all (finger print sensor works pretty damn well though, still prefer a side placing)

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H8266 Rev 4 here, just bought it a couple of weeks ago after frying my Z5p, I had no intention on getting this phone, was going to wait til the end of the year to see what Sony will offer but necessity obliged
Absolutely zero issues, no heat or screen sensitivity as other mentioned, this thing stays cool and is lighting fast, battery life is insane, crossed a few times 10+ hours of SOT...just waiting tight for a drm fix to root and xposed (whenever that is)
The only thing that bugs me is the esthetic of the phone, not a fan of the back side at all (finger print sensor works pretty damn well though, still prefer a side placing)
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Interesting. I'm not getting anywhere close to those battery times either. Can you run the GeekBench battery test? I'm at 4 hours and something...

I will ask the support to repair my phone.
Switch it to the latest hardware revision.
And see if this fix my touch screen issue.

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H8266 Rev 4 here, just bought it a couple of weeks ago after frying my Z5p, I had no intention on getting this phone, was going to wait til the end of the year to see what Sony will offer but necessity obliged
Absolutely zero issues, no heat or screen sensitivity as other mentioned, this thing stays cool and is lighting fast, battery life is insane, crossed a few times 10+ hours of SOT...just waiting tight for a drm fix to root and xposed (whenever that is)
The only thing that bugs me is the esthetic of the phone, not a fan of the back side at all (finger print sensor works pretty damn well though, still prefer a side placing)
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Impossible physically. The battery is not big enough to sustain that long of a SOT no matter how efficient you claim to be. unless sony changed the battery capacity in their latest revision, conning people who got earlier revisions.

I haven't had any of the issues reported, the phone never seems to get hot either but I don't play games very much and for the time that I just got slightly warm. I agree with the battery life, it's really amazing compared to everything else I've ever owned.

hotcakes_shinku said:
Impossible physically. The battery is not big enough to sustain that long of a SOT no matter how efficient you claim to be. unless sony changed the battery capacity in their latest revision, conning people who got earlier revisions.
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I've been on xda long enough and I'm not the type to post nonsense ?
This pic below is not from my phone, it's from the xz2 thread on Esato, so you can see that I'm not the only one either...I didn't take a screen shot of mine when I crossed 10+ hours (I will next time)... I said that passed it a few times, mostly range in the ≈9+ hours...
I don't game, few accounts with push notifications and an email client with 3 imap notifications (so those run in the background constantly)
This one below is from my phone...I'm at 1.5 hours of SOT with a 12% down from full charge...you can extrapolate the end results ?
System optimization is an important factor, not only battery size...they did a great job with the xz2...

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System optimization is an important factor, not only battery size...they did a great job with the xz2...
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Indeed, I've also about 9h SOT
8266 Rev 2

adwinp said:
This thread is pointless if revisions are not linked with specific comparisons in behaviour.
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and WHAT exactly do you want to test? We don't know what they changed, might the supplier from glue which holds the Screen on the phone, might be the a different speaker/microphone inside or something else smaller.
Else we wouldn't be a rev4 already. Changing something during production is no small feat...
hotcakes_shinku said:
Impossible physically. The battery is not big enough to sustain that long of a SOT no matter how efficient you claim to be. unless sony changed the battery capacity in their latest revision, conning people who got earlier revisions.
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Lol.
The Battery inside the XZ2 has:
Min: 3060mAh 11.6Wh
Typ: 3180mAh 12.3Wh
So i've measured the powerdraw for Screen+Phone Idle/flightmode:
Minimum Brightness uses 0.49W
Maximum uses 1.83W
Screen Off uses 0.24W
Doing the Math even at full brightness if you use your phone as E-Book reader you could reach 6h 45min At Minimum even over 25h!
So yes, it is very well possible.

chili_red said:
I haven't had any of the issues reported, the phone never seems to get hot either but I don't play games very much and for the time that I just got slightly warm. I agree with the battery life, it's really amazing compared to everything else I've ever owned.
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Hm. Before the XZ2 I've had a Xiaomi Mi 6, which impressed me more in terms of battery. Smaller screen, bigger battery (and much slimmer phone).
And IMHO it's not better, perhaps worse than my LG V20. I did take a lot of photos, which does seem to drain the battery badly.
I really wonder what they have done through the revisions. It seems clear to me now that revision 1 had some serious flaws (or maybe my unit is defective), especially in terms of cooling.

Rev 2 i have
Wat is exactly the point of this... More info please and can you explain us what Rev 1, 2 and so on is and what it mean ?

Pandemic said:
Rev 2 i have
Wat is exactly the point of this... More info please and can you explain us what Rev 1, 2 and so on is and what it mean ?
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No one except for Sony probably knows. But it is interesting to see, which revisions made it to the market and which didn't. And if people report on issues with their phone, we can at least figure out a bit what was fixed. Also now we know there are 4 revisions so far. Mine is revision 1 and says demo only, not for sale. So maybe it is also possible to find out when these phones were released.