Front Camera Setting max at 1.2mp in 6.0.1 - Nexus 5 General

MMB29V March update. Notice in our camera settings that front camera only max at 1.2mp whereas Nexus 5 specifications on paper say front camera is 1.3mp..

Attached picture show front camera setting in 6.0.1

It's a 1.3Mpx camera, what would you expect? It's probably just a rounding error.

farsight73 said:
MMB29V March update. Notice in our camera settings that front camera only max at 1.2mp whereas Nexus 5 specifications on paper say front camera is 1.3mp..
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It looks like crap anyway

I went to attend my son student award day. Prepare my Nexus 5 camera to take a video when they call his name to go up on stage to receive his award. Just the moment my son walk up my nexus froze up and hang.. I totally lost the moment...!! WTF...

farsight73 said:
I went to attend my son student award day. Prepare my Nexus 5 camera to take a video when they call his name to go up on stage to receive his award. Just the moment my son walk up my nexus froze up and hang.. I totally lost the moment...!! WTF...
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Never underestimate the importance of bench testing before reliance.
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farsight73 said:
I went to attend my son student award day. Prepare my Nexus 5 camera to take a video when they call his name to go up on stage to receive his award. Just the moment my son walk up my nexus froze up and hang.. I totally lost the moment...!! WTF...
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Both Nexus 4 and 5 have camera issues if you use the camera a lot. It tends to cause the phone to reboot.
In fact, this is the main reason I am NOT getting another Nexus device. Little bugs like these makes the phone unreliable.

akash3656 said:
Both Nexus 4 and 5 have camera issues if you use the camera a lot. It tends to cause the phone to reboot.
In fact, this is the main reason I am NOT getting another Nexus device. Little bugs like these makes the phone unreliable.
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granted i have not yet updated my wife's nexus 5 to MM but we have NEVER had any issues with the camera on this phone, its been a great phone and a great camera, very dependable, just my 2 cents
and yeah probably just a rounding issue is why it shows 1.2 and not 1.3

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Nexus 4 camera vs iphone 5

hey guys you know that both of these phones are pretty good.so lets see if the cameras are the same too.
To see the comparison,go here:http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/12/04/nexus-4-vs-iphone-5-camera-shootout/
The camera isn't that bad and it can only become better, thanks to google's updates
The Zel said:
The camera isn't that bad and it can only become better, thanks to google's updates
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Okay, i honestly thought the iphone 5 is miles ahead camera wise. Guess i was wrong, comparison makes me more than satisfied with the output.
The Iphone 5 Camera isn´t better, you can´t rely on such comparisons because you could so easily manipulate them in a way you like. After you had both smartphones in your hand you can decide which suites you better. But in the end its a phone which isn´t made for taking hq pics, like all other smartphones as well.
im just annoyed with the pinkish purple tinting in photos
Never owned iPhone so didn't know it was so close to Nexus 4 in camera department.
All iPhone does it add punch to certain colors like green to make the photo look good. Nexus 4 on the other hand had more accurate colors. Especially the first photo where sky color was pretty accurate with Nexus 4 where as iPhone have it purplish tinge
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I own both phones, iP5 and N4 and the iP5 camera is much better no question about it.
I think our camera blows. Only cuz low light is horrible.it's the same as the galaxy nexus.but I can't complain since the price is half an iPhone.
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The iPhone 5 suffers from horrible purple fringing when faced directly at the sun (or another source of light). Apple won't come up with a recall, just expect a fix once the 5s comes out.
The camera on the iphone 5 is better, its one of the best cameras out there on a phone.
tvdang7 said:
I think our camera blows. Only cuz low light is horrible.it's the same as the galaxy nexus.but I can't complain since the price is half an iPhone.
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+1 My wife's Galaxy S4 makes me wanna cry. And to the point about phones not taking HQ pics, today's phones are without a doubt the next generation of point and shoot. We NEVER take our camera anywhere anymore unless we just happened to remember it. Now there's phones coming with 41 megapixel and great lenses. Cameras are becoming more important as we shift to this digital lifestyle. I for one wish we had a little better camera. But it works for me..... For now.
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sweet I can compare to phone I will nver touch or want
I think the only reason iPhone camera *might* arguably produce better looking pictures is because of apples software which automatically adds a bunch of effects for the iSheep. I can just take a pic and edit it with default editor and I bet it would look better than iPhone s pics.
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I remember having an iPhone and the camera is way better than the current Nexus 4 camera. Still room for improvement!
You also have to consider the price of the device out-right... N4 is a much cheaper phone using parts not has expensive as the iPhone5... if you take that into consideration, N4 puts up a good fight..
So if you compare it strickly on hardware without factor in price, there is no comparison the iPhone5 will be a better device...
Lots of Apple haters.. Then again it is XDA. Personally, and from a photographer's standpoint, my iPhone 4S took better images and videos than my Nexus. More specifically in low light situations. Can't see how the Nexus would also take better images than the iPhone 5. Because that would mean the Nexus takes better pictures than the Galaxy S4. Either way, I'm not saying our camera on or phone is terrible, but it most definitely isn't in the conversation of being in the top 3, and possibly not in the top 5.
As an owner of iPhone 4s, user of iPhone 5s and a new owner of Nexus 4, I'd say both iPhones have superior cameras in terms of image quality and colors. Nexus 4 has seems to have a faster camera though, and while the image quality isn't top, it is still quite good. Why would you expect a better camera on a much cheaper device anyway?
The issue I have with the N4 is that the pics look good in preview mode sat using up a quarter of the desktop screen but if you go full size...whoahhhhhhhhh. Noise noise noise.:silly:
I've tried several different camera apps (even one that will take 8MP 12MB .PNG shots) and the result is the same for all of them, just noisy full size shots, even in bright sunlight. So the issue with the N4's camera isn't compression at the file output stage it's somewhere earlier in the chain.
Colour balance is good though.
Someone really needs to hack that camera but I fear it may be a hardware limitation.
Fille84 said:
The camera on the iphone 5 is better, its one of the best cameras out there on a phone.
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its behind s4 camera, not even talking about Lumia 920/925/1020. But again any phone looks like toy agaisnt Lumia cameras...
Personally from my experience all Nexus phones have come with crappy cameras. The problem is the company doesn't implement a really good camera for the Nexus which is beyond me. Even though it's an 8mp camera my note 2 takes way better still images as well as videos.
For instance on this phone when recording a video you can't click the screen to focus in on whatever your recording, instead it just takes a picture which is stupid. Quality isn't great.
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I used to have a N4, compared to that, this phone is a stupid piece of....

...amazing hardware! I got my N5 a couple of days ago (bought at launch hour, used comGateway to forward it to India, takes time ) and so far I've been playing with it non-stop (have a few exams prep leaves ), and here are my impressions so far.
My background: I'm a huge Nexus fanboy, I own (or have owned) every Nexus device with the exception of Nexus Q and currently possess fully working Galaxy Nexus (16GB), Nexus 4 (16GB), Nexus 7 (2012, 16GB) and Nexus 7 (2013, 32GB) all bought more or less at launch along with a Galaxy Note and Galaxy S2. My device before was my N4 bought at launch and it was great, but I can't simply skip my temptation to get the new N5, so I did. I don't care about the price, I can very well afford a phone far more expensive. I buy Nexus devices because I love the pure stock experience they bring, it just somehow feels better to me.
Note: I've been using N4 exclusively before this for almost a year, so all my views are in relation to it.
My device: White Nexus 5, 32GB. Pure stock with an unlocked bootloader and rooted.
The Good:
Bigger, better screen! The screen is taller without being (much) wider, and it's gorgeous! I know some people are saying colours are washed out etc, but that's just the IPS display which I'm used to, plus when colour control gets modded into kernels that won't be much of a problem. It's a lot sharper than my N4 and definitely brighter]
Performance! It has the highest binned Snapdragon 800! Need I say more? It can smoke anything out their
Storage is a welcome improvement, sometimes I had to choose between games on my N4 but with double the storage I don't have that problem (atleast for a while )
Camera is a lot more improved than the one on N4, I haven't tested it too thoroughly but it's definitely improved especially in low light conditions
KitKat and GEL are a welcome change, I like the subtle UI improvements and I love the fact that BT audio and software audio levels are not two different things anymore, that used to drive me crazy
I love the white version's looks and build, I was torn what to get when purchasing this from the Play Store but decided to go with the white since it's different. The speaker grill adds a really nice touch IMO and back has a good feel to it. Personally I'd prefer a little more build, but with the ceramic sides and everything it's nice, definitely not cheap.
The Okay:
Battery life, meh. This was expected, it's slightly better than N4's but still not great. On my first run I was able to get out about 2 hours of SOT with 1 hour of GPS, 1 hour of audio over BT, and a lot of updating/downloading games. So that's not bad, N4 lasted me a day and I don't see N5 doing any worse, if anything it'll do better when I switch to custom kernels
Speaker is an improvement but nothing great
The Ugly:
Camera shutter lag, I absolutely hate this. Maybe I'm crazy or something but I hate that it takes a lot of time to click pictures, with the chance of entirely blurring out the picture when given to someone else. Hopefully something improves this
No always on listening , I was hoping for this feature from Moto X
TL;DR: Get the freaking device. It's awesome. And get it in white, seriously.
Lmao you got me with the thread title.
Very clever! Good thread!
Google should make a COMPLETELY new camera app, and upload it to the Play Store for everyone to enjoy. And they should do that quickly. Current camera app is terrible! (The shutter lag it because of the software, not the hardware)
Can 3rd party camera apps help or is this only a google issue?
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I see what you did there.
I'd get it, if it wasn't sold out EVERYWHERE in Belgium, Netherlands, and Germany.
Shealpi said:
I'd get it, if it wasn't sold out EVERYWHERE in Belgium, Netherlands, and Germany.
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See, that's why you stay awake till midnight of your country's time to place an order in US the moment it launches so that you can import it to your country
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Your thread title will surely gather greater intra-xda SEO. (Bringing more and more members confused by the title of the thread).
Please get it changed.
I agree.. Amazing phone! I came from a n4 and HTC one.. I just wish there was better speakers on this device. My one spoiled me!
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dashing.sujay said:
Your thread title will surely gather greater intra-xda SEO. (Bringing more and more members confused by the title of the thread).
Please get it changed.
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I don't see why that is a bad thing?
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you Win..
the game!!
chrisinsocalif said:
Can 3rd party camera apps help or is this only a google issue?
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Yes! Just found this last night and played around with it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spritefish.fastburstcameralite
The quality is a little less than the regular camera, but there is zero shutter lag. The paid version is $2 and it allows you to tap focus and take nicer pictures when you want to. Will still need the standard camera for HDR+ mode (which takes excellent shots that this can't touch).
stremax said:
you Win..
the game!!
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I hate you so much...
:crying::crying::crying:

HTC one... what could have been.

Love this phone, but the lack of a good camera killed it for me. Takes terrible pics. But on a higher note I got 4g in my neighborhood now! Yeah buddy
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I don't get it.. Am I missing something?
Get what?
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Get what?
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The point of this thread? The camera issue is old news
Ya, this seems like more of a FB post... but.. XDA isn't FB! Lol
booooooo!!!!!
Like you decided to make a thread about the camera when you could have posted the same thing in one of the open threads....
I, for one, love this camera. It takes pictures where no other phone can. The only smartphone camera that I would prefer over it is the new iPhone 5S camera, which was released half a year later.
gobaers said:
I, for one, love this camera. It takes pictures where no other phone can. The only smartphone camera that I would prefer over it is the new iPhone 5S camera, which was released half a year later.
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I think they are both crap I cant wait till we get something awesome like the nokia built into that windows phone i want a 41 mp camera or whatever insane number it is... Thats something i cant wait to see for androids...
Pneuma1985 said:
I think they are both crap I cant wait till we get something awesome like the nokia built into that windows phone i want a 41 mp camera or whatever insane number it is... Thats something i cant wait to see for androids...
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Don't know if we're going to see another PureView-esque camera for a while. I just don't think the profit margins or demand are out there to justify anything beyond the incremental bumps in MP count we've been seeing 4 to 5, 5, to 8, 8 to 13, etc.). Might be nice, but to be honest I'd rather see improvements in battery tech right now.
That being said, point of thread is a little confusing.
Rirere said:
Don't know if we're going to see another PureView-esque camera for a while. I just don't think the profit margins or demand are out there to justify anything beyond the incremental bumps in MP count we've been seeing 4 to 5, 5, to 8, 8 to 13, etc.). Might be nice, but to be honest I'd rather see improvements in battery tech right now.
That being said, point of thread is a little confusing.
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Well battery tech has come quite a long way in the past 5 years... This being a clear example of that http://www.extremetech.com/computing/153614-new-lithium-ion-battery-design-thats-2000-times-more-powerful-recharges-1000-times-faster So batteries have come a long way and continue to get advancements about every 2 years or so. But yeah I'd like to see all the beast tech put into one phone.
Providing a truly great camera would increase the price of the device by too high a margin. Why do you think the N5 has the same camera as the 4? To keep costs down. When you get right to it, everybody wants everything in one device, but don't want to pay a grand for it. So, something has to give. The N5 has a better processor, screen, connectivity, and gorilla glass. They couldn't upgrade the camera too, without losing the 399 pricepoint. So......I haven't seen a device yet that doesn't have umpteen threads about the camera being less than marketed. Whattayagonnado
Well sorry that I created so much drama opening this thread. Just the camera is so disappointing. Sorry had to vent.
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What could have been.... Same focus on camera but with 8 ultra pixel instead (or whatever it's called) removable battery so extended batteries could be made and used, micro sd slot, dedicated camera button (don't know why that is going away).
Subwoofer, 5.1 surround, slide out gamepad, stylus that doubles as a microphone so I could do karaoke games my phone,.... Lol sorry couldn't resist but the above paragraph is what I'm hoping they do next or at least Samsung adds stereo speakers to their next phone hopefully the s5
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I love this camera.
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The camera sucks for people with the purple-tint issue... I've seen examples - even those with a mild hardware defect have foggy-looking pics and may not exactly see much purple tint in them. If your pictures suck, prove it so we can determine it isn't defective and not just the photographer.
I'm a photographer - not making my living with it, but certainly more knowledgeable and skilled than the average person. This camera is great. It can be a little quirky and it takes a little getting used to, but it's far better than any mobile camera I've used. The shallow depth of field is a nice thing to have for macros or some "artsy" pics. The clarity is great, but yes, snapping into light greatly diminishes the dynamic range - this is true for any camera but I'll agree this is worse off on this one. The gains in low-light performance are far better than most other mobile cameras and as long as you didn't get stuck with a defective unit, this phone rocks.
In regards to the 41 pureview camera request... wtf are you thinking? The ONLY benefit this gives is superior digital zoom/cropping possibilities. adding more pixels does nothing more than give you room to crop or enlarge. For perspective, 3MP is what is needed for 4x6 prints without any cropping. This means the 4 MP camera is plenty to print from, although not much for enlargements. I HAVE printed 8x10s from the HTC One and they've looked great. Pixels and image quality are unrelated, despite what years of digital camera marketing teams want you to believe.
I think the One's camera makes a really great companion to a more proper camera like a DSLR. When I went to New Zealand recently the two cameras played off of each other quite well. The DSLR for zoomed shots that I had time to compose and the One for quick snaps where a really wide angle and speed was best. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that doesn't have the purple tint issue, and even if I did it's really easy to correct, I go in and tweak white balance and colors on most of my pics anyway.
BonkyMoon said:
I think the One's camera makes a really great companion to a more proper camera like a DSLR. When I went to New Zealand recently the two cameras played off of each other quite well. The DSLR for zoomed shots that I had time to compose and the One for quick snaps where a really wide angle and speed was best. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that doesn't have the purple tint issue, and even if I did it's really easy to correct, I go in and tweak white balance and colors on most of my pics anyway.
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Well said, however I don't think you fully understand the purple tint issue. White balancing isn't correcting the problem at all. It appears to fade in from the edges and cover portions of the image like a fog. Others have it randomly scattered in weird patterns. White balancing would worsen the portions of the image that aren't affected, if it does anything at all. I'm convinced it's a hardware problem after watching a YouTube video of a One owner showing the issue on his torn apart HTC One. When he put his finger behind the camera heatsink to help dissipate the heat, the purple tint went away. When he let go of it and let it get warm again, the issue worsened. Fortunately, I don't have the issue. But others have shown how this is a serious problem and white balancing likely won't do any good to fix it.
This is a galaxy s4 camera vs HtcOne camera I can't complain at all. These are the One
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[Q] Where's the 60 FPS recording?

Is a way for me to get 60 FPS video recording capability on my Nexus 6? I am rooted...
EDIT: I'm an idiot. It's been a long day at work. I should learn to search.
EDIT 2: Nope... L Camera only lets me do 30 FPS... hmm.
It is right next to the burst mode on your camera [emoji23]
Great hardware crappy software
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DebianDog said:
It is right next to the burst mode on your camera [emoji23]
Great hardware crappy software
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Everything ending in x60 is greyed out.
Yes these are the biggest complaints about the phone. I had more options on my Galaxy S3 or my Motorola Xoom than I do this phone when it comes to camera and video tools.
Does the camera take a decent picture one at a time? Sure. But compared to an iPhone 6 the software supplied is laughable
oh the other thing that is going to drive you crazy is the focus hunting that the camera will do while in video mode .
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DebianDog said:
Yes these are the biggest complaints about the phone. I had more options on my Galaxy S3 or my Motorola Xoom than I do this phone when it comes to camera and video tools.
Does the camera take a decent picture one at a time? Sure. But compared to an iPhone 6 the software supplied is laughable
oh the other thing that is going to drive you crazy is the focus hunting that the camera will do while in video mode .
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you better be careful around here, people don't like honesty. they would rather hear/read something pretty instead, even of its not the truth
Try open camera
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DebianDog said:
Yes these are the biggest complaints about the phone. I had more options on my Galaxy S3 or my Motorola Xoom than I do this phone when it comes to camera and video tools.
Does the camera take a decent picture one at a time? Sure. But compared to an iPhone 6 the software supplied is laughable
oh the other thing that is going to drive you crazy is the focus hunting that the camera will do while in video mode .
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Takes a great picture. I love HDR + too. The time lapse and slow motion on iPhone 6 is really impressive though. And I agree with the focus hunting or even sometimes, lack of...
I was at a gig last week. Focused in on the band then decided to get some crowd shots... Then I couldn't focus on the band again. Ruined the vid.
Yes it is very agitating. my boss has an iPhone 6+ and I was shooting video with it and I have to admit, I was kind of jealous.
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Yes it is very agitating. my boss has an iPhone 6+ and I was shooting video with it and I have to admit, I was kind of jealous.
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Swings and roundabouts. We put them both together playing the same 4k video, and the iPhone user definitely preferred the sharpness and saturation of the nexus.
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Takes a great picture. I love HDR + too. The time lapse and slow motion on iPhone 6 is really impressive though. And I agree with the focus hunting or even sometimes, lack of...
I was at a gig last week. Focused in on the band then decided to get some crowd shots... Then I couldn't focus on the band again. Ruined the vid.
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Built-in iOS8 time lapse mode is indeed interesting, though most iPeople I know like Hyperlapse by the Instagram folks
I like Gallus for Android, though YMMV.
- ooofest
I tried all the cameras to fix the focus issues. None don't work best bet is to keep hdr+ on for still pictures and don't move when recording. Or do what i did sold my nexus and bought a note 4. I really wanted to like the n6 but way to many issuses for me. Maybe things changed since it came out but i got mine when it came out and sold it about a month later, i couldn't fix the issues it had nor the time to wait for it to get fixed.
bonebeatz1234 said:
I tried all the cameras to fix the focus issues. None don't work best bet is to keep hdr+ on for still pictures and don't move when recording. Or do what i did sold my nexus and bought a note 4. I really wanted to like the n6 but way to many issuses for me. Maybe things changed since it came out but i got mine when it came out and sold it about a month later, i couldn't fix the issues it had nor the time to wait for it to get fixed.
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Have fun. My roommate's Note 4 has the same focus issue when he records video.
L Camera can lock the focus and record. There's even a few recordings floating around the Nexus 6 subreddit of a guy taking an excellent video of a low light concert with no focus hunting at all.

Blind Camera Shootout Results

Android authority did a blind shootout test where they tested 6 different devices. It's funny hearing how horrible the camera is, but seeing this quickly debunks it as the camera problem as hearsay vs actual testing.
http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-5-camera-shootout-780369/
Tl;Dr..... One Plus 5 came in 2nd.
While the camera is a large part of a phone experience, I think a lot of people went overboard with their anger about the camera. Is it perfect? Nope. But we are in the first weeks of release. It's bound to get better, and I've used this camera on a trip already and it's produced better pics than my previous phones.
It's starting to slowly feel like the dust is settling on the negativity around here.
sodomanaz said:
While the camera is a large part of a phone experience, I think a lot of people went overboard with their anger about the camera. Is it perfect? Nope. But we are in the first weeks of release. It's bound to get better, and I've used this camera on a trip already and it's produced better pics than my previous phones.
It's starting to slowly feel like the dust is settling on the negativity around here.
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I'll be receiving my OnePlus 5 in the mail tomorrow (says fedex), and I will still have my Nexus 6p, cause it hasn't sold on swappa yet. I'll take them both out and do some comparison shots between these two.
I'll probably do default settings, manual settings, and then one edited with Snapseed for both phones.
ab7casper said:
I'll be receiving my OnePlus 5 in the mail tomorrow (says fedex), and I will still have my Nexus 6p, cause it hasn't sold on swappa yet. I'll take them both out and do some comparison shots between these two.
I'll probably do default settings, manual settings, and then one edited with Snapseed for both phones.
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Sounds good. There is a camera thread on the forum that I'm sure would appreciate seeing the comparison.
ab7casper said:
I'll be receiving my OnePlus 5 in the mail tomorrow (says fedex), and I will still have my Nexus 6p, cause it hasn't sold on swappa yet. I'll take them both out and do some comparison shots between these two.
I'll probably do default settings, manual settings, and then one edited with Snapseed for both phones.
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The 6P destroys it in low light.
B3501 said:
The 6P destroys it in low light.
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That's what I heard.
I might skip the manual mode, and do a comparison of auto, and then Snapseed edited photos. Honestly, anyone who is really giving a crap about their photo quality will do post production work before it's uploaded. So I'm hoping post Snapseed, the 5 will surpass the 6p in lowlights quality. It will be interesting to test nonetheless.

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