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Samsung PR lollipop.. Be honest?

Am I the only person who wish Samsung would keep us updated. Even a statement like.... we have found a number of issues with lollipop which will take some time to resolve. We want you to have a great experience so we will ensure that when we send out the update you will enjoy the benefits. Please be patient.. We hope to send out the updates by end of April.
It would save us all checking for updates. Plus make Samsung a more human company

Would be good if the 910G snapdragon variant actually got lollipop....

**** Samsung, getting iPhone 6 soon if LP is not released anytime soon!

Mate that's a crazy thing to say... I would still prefer 4.4 then own another iphone

Agreed, at least some info would be nice. I'm running lollipop on a few of my other devices now, the note 4 is lagging behind
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The amnoyance in regards to this is that both the Note 3, S4 & S5 seem to have had a wider rollout so far than the Note 4. Likewise Samsung's PR were promising a rollout to Android within a couple of months of its final release when the Note 4 was released and thar seemingly has been abandoned too. It just leads to user apathy and distrust.

nookcoloruser said:
The amnoyance in regards to this is that both the Note 3, S4 & S5 seem to have had a wider rollout so far than the Note 4. Likewise Samsung's PR were promising a rollout to Android within a couple of months of its final release when the Note 4 was released and thar seemingly has been abandoned too. It just leads to user apathy and distrust.
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I'm over Samsung ... I never even hardly use the damn pen anymore anyway. I promise myself I will not be back again. This BS with a million models and other crud... NO GOOD SAMSUNG!

oh stop bull****ting .
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OS Updates for mobiles are so much overrated.
What features did lollipop bring that are important to you?
I could even use gingerbread today and it would work for mostly anything that I'd want to do.
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magichoward said:
Am I the only person who wish Samsung would keep us updated. Even a statement like.... we have found a number of issues with lollipop which will take some time to resolve. We want you to have a great experience so we will ensure that when we send out the update you will enjoy the benefits. Please be patient.. We hope to send out the updates by end of April.
It would save us all checking for updates. Plus make Samsung a more human company
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Hoping for honesty from the PR arm of an international chaebol is like nicely asking a stone if it wouldn't mind bleeding a bit. It also assumes that they are even remotely interested in providing these kinds of updates, that they communicate with the developers, and that they have that information in the first place. They've done their job already - you've bought a Note 4, so why should they care? Besides which, if they've already stated a timeframe previously, and been unable to meet it, they're going to be very cautious about announcing anything else apart from "it'll be ready when it's ready", and even that is unlikely compared to simply remaining silent.

tr1cky1 said:
OS Updates for mobiles are so much overrated.
What features did lollipop bring that are important to you?
I could even use gingerbread today and it would work for mostly anything that I'd want to do.
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Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.

airwa1kin7 said:
Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.
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This is totally true....why get a device like the Note 4 if you are ok with Gingerbread...I don't understand people who get such a good phone and don;t know how to eve use it...but rather use it for calls and messages only...

airwa1kin7 said:
Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.
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Oh common, Android is mostly about apps and they would run on gingerbread aswell.
I'm coming from a nexus 5 btw.
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tr1cky1 said:
Oh common, Android is mostly about apps and they would run on gingerbread aswell.
I'm coming from a nexus 5 btw.
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I sincerely hope this post is a joke; if I merely cared about apps I'd own an iPhone.

I bought a 800€ smartphone i espect to have the lastest and best software. Thats why so many people is going from android to iOS. If you have a iPhonne 6+ you have the lastest iOS. Next time a change smartphonne i am going to think twice before have Android or iOS, and for me Nexus line are no option, ugly and overrated. For me Samsung or HTC or LG (this two allready have 5.0 Lolipop)

I updated my Moto X 2014 to lollipop and it made it slower, worse battery and it stuttered more than it did on kitkat. Also with all the problems people were talking about on most of the phones that got the update(not just Samsung) why are people in such a rush? Google really messed up with lollipop.
I would like to get the S6 TW though.

GTCC said:
I updated my Moto X 2014 to lollipop and it made it slower, worse battery and it stuttered more than it did on kitkat. Also with all the problems people were talking about on most of the phones that got the update(not just Samsung) why are people in such a rush? Google really messed up with lollipop.
I would like to get the S6 TW though.
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I've not had any problems with 5.0 on my Moto X 2014
Performs like a champ. No FC's and no stutters or 'contacts stopped working' bugs.
That being said, It would be nice to see 5.1 sometime soon on both it and the Note 4. Had to rollback my Note 4 to KitKat as performance was so bad on lollipop for me.
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why i want lollipop and Samsung to treat us better
based on google claims ...better security. no lags, the apps like quickpik can delete photos and much more usability...hoping for better camera.plus many other things on lollipop
every year I think of going back to the Iphone ,,,but now the iphone 6 plus is a real competitor ....but this upgrade policy and silence from Samsung is really annoying .
later this year if the iphone 7 competes with the note 6 I will have to consider changing to
iphone ....upgrades are fast on iphone ,works works worldwide every language preinstalled Samsung doesnt) both have good battery the iphone 6 plus better camera in most cases but marginal .the fingerprint
is a joke on note 4 .
im just ranting cause got another error re my names have crashed again. ...grrr
Finally android sumsung after all these years cant offer a full back up and restore .
this rant is after watching a friend of mine just buying a new Iphone 6 and everything but evething restores in one go ...awesom ...Im not rooted so it takes a whole day for me to restor everthing ... Im restarting my phone daily these days so bad day for me sorry about the ranting
come on samsung TREAT EXISTING CUSTOMERS better.

magichoward said:
based on google claims ...better security. no lags, the apps like quickpik can delete photos and much more usability...hoping for better camera.plus many other things on lollipop
every year I think of going back to the Iphone ,,,but now the iphone 6 plus is a real competitor ....but this upgrade policy and silence from Samsung is really annoying .
later this year if the iphone 7 competes with the note 6 I will have to consider changing to
iphone ....upgrades are fast on iphone ,works works worldwide every language preinstalled Samsung doesnt) both have good battery the iphone 6 plus better camera in most cases but marginal .the fingerprint
is a joke on note 4 .
im just ranting cause got another error re my names have crashed again. ...grrr
Finally android sumsung after all these years cant offer a full back up and restore .
this rant is after watching a friend of mine just buying a new Iphone 6 and everything but evething restores in one go ...awesom ...Im not rooted so it takes a whole day for me to restor everthing ... Im restarting my phone daily these days so bad day for me sorry about the ranting
come on samsung TREAT EXISTING CUSTOMERS better.
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iPhone are great for fluidity and fast updates, but they lack the customization and freedom that android offers even with Jailbreak.
Also , I don't know if you need glasses or not, but the note 4 camera beats the iPhone any day in good light situations...both in photos and videos.

nookcoloruser said:
I've not had any problems with 5.0 on my Moto X 2014
Performs like a champ. No FC's and no stutters or 'contacts stopped working' bugs.
That being said, It would be nice to see 5.1 sometime soon on both it and the Note 4. Had to rollback my Note 4 to KitKat as performance was so bad on lollipop for me.
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Yeah I didn't have major problems but the battery is worse and it just wasn't as smooth and quick as it was on kitkat. I didn't have the app redraws that others had but I put that down to a full wipe before and after the update.

Android 5.1. update is LIVE!! Yay! Build G925FXXU2BOFJ

T-Mobile Galaxy S5 just got the 5.1 update, build G900TUVU1FOF6.
The international set used to receive before US-sets but it seems T-Mobile is bucking the trend. Anyway, hope it is ported soon. Or we have our own official 5.1 firmware soon. :good:

Here's the link http://31.220.4.75/dl/TMB-G900TUVU1FOF6-20150622093044.zip
I wonder if we can run this on 900f with a custom kernel? What's the worst thing that would happen: soft brick? or need to flash ofw in odin?
Edit: Here's a mega mirror.
And here's a system dump with APK's and whatnot .

Can anyone post some screenshot of this release? Thanks in andvance!

lingowistico said:
Here's the link http://31.220.4.75/dl/TMB-G900TUVU1FOF6-20150622093044.zip
I wonder if we can run this on 900f with a custom kernel? What's the worst thing that would happen: soft brick? or need to flash ofw in odin?
Edit: Here's a mega mirror.
And here's a system dump with APK's and whatnot .
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No, only when 900F recive update
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For anyone who wants some anecdotal evidence; this was a great update!!!! extremely happy. lock screen is snappier, multitasking button lag seems to be gone, calling using ok google " call x" with google voice is fixed. phone just seems snappier overall. great great great update! thanks t mobile and samsung. i didn't expect to ever get 5.1.1

Reeebo said:
For anyone who wants some anecdotal evidence; this was a great update!!!! extremely happy. lock screen is snappier, multitasking button lag seems to be gone, calling using ok google " call x" with google voice is fixed. phone just seems snappier overall. great great great update! thanks t mobile and samsung. i didn't expect to ever get 5.1.1
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Anything from the s6 included? Mostly interested in the new theme engine.

fedor12 said:
Anything from the s6 included? Mostly interested in the new theme engine.
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No new theme engine. Typical Samsung-style move - artificially forcing previous models to look and feel old by not updating touchwiz on them.

lingowistico said:
No new theme engine. Typical Samsung-style move - artificially forcing previous models to look and feel old by not updating touchwiz on them.
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Pathetic...
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Samsung don't seem to introduce features from the new phones to older devices. Seen the same thing every year

mrstabs said:
Samsung don't seem to introduce features from the new phones to older devices. Seen the same thing every year
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lingowistico said:
No new theme engine. Typical Samsung-style move - artificially forcing previous models to look and feel old by not updating touchwiz on them.
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Remember that Galaxy S2, born with Android 2.3.3, received the "Nature UX" namely TouchWiz 5.0 with same features of Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean on Galaxy S3. Maybe they think that the new Touchwiz is no such new than the "older" one on S5 KitKat nay on S5 Lollipop with white UI.

Lympe said:
Pathetic...
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Huh?
nfs11 said:
Remember that Galaxy S2, born with Android 2.3.3, received the "Nature UX" namely TouchWiz 5.0 with same features of Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean on Galaxy S3. Maybe they think that the new Touchwiz is no such new than the "older" one on S5 KitKat nay on S5 Lollipop with white UI.
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But that was a whole year after the S3 was released. And even then they disabled little things like waterrings unlock etc ONLY to make a point that the S2 is not the S3.

Hello,
Is there camera RAW/DNG support? (Camera2 API)

_hko_ said:
Hello,
Is there camera RAW/DNG support? (Camera2 API)
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Some people are saying that there isn't any raw support, I can't confirm it though.

lingowistico said:
Huh?
But that was a whole year after the S3 was released. And even then they disabled little things like waterrings unlock etc ONLY to make a point that the S2 is not the S3.
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Also Galaxy S5 has a year.

nfs11 said:
Also Galaxy S5 has a year.
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Yeah, best case scenario for when we get an official s6 rom is a whole year from now.
If they're gonna copy Apple and the iphone they might as well copy their update style and keep all devices with the same os and ui...

Although the thread has started with the Idea of Port, it has become Firmware Feature discussion. That should be happening in [SM-G900/F/K/L/W8/A/T/M] S5 Firmware Thread
Any firmware should be posted in that thread if its not there already. You can choose to Work with that OP if need be. This one needs to close as its duplication.

Leak android 6.0.1 g900f

One user has received the update 9n a Galaxy S5 G900f.
Soon will have it it seems.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/12/27...obably-released-by-mistake-for-the-galaxy-s5/
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That is some very good news.

well i saw the video and if this is really the mashmallow update for galaxy s5 it will be very disappointed, because the only new thing i see is the icons and the rest are still the exact as lollipop , and this sucks
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I think is from Algeria or Morocco or Tunisia French language
BUILD G900FXXUCOL4 or COK4

I really hope this is a very early version, because the leaked firmware is basically Lollipop S5 with new icons...
Hopefully the guy who received it cooperates in providing a ROM dump instead of trying to sell his phone.

it will be the same as lollipop with the diffrence of icons usual samsung bullsh-t good news is once we get it we can port s6 and s6 edge roms hopefully

I hope New Camera API is implement. so we can play with manual Camera.

i guess that it's a fake because theres another video on his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw86a2-atEY <- same buildnumber -,-

warboss said:
i guess that it's a fake because theres another video on his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw86a2-atEY <- same buildnumber -,-
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Hi , it not same buildnumber
in your youtube limk the version is: -- G900FXXU1COK4
and in this post the version is: -- G900FXXU1COL4

fake s*** he delete some comments

people seem to think that the latest android version will bring the latest touchwiz/features of the note 5 and s6 to the s5. it won't and why would you expect it? it's an old phone. samsung want you to pay for a new phone to get newer features

mikeyaj said:
people seem to think that the latest android version will bring the latest touchwiz/features of the note 5 and s6 to the s5. it won't and why would you expect it? it's an old phone. samsung want you to pay for a new phone to get newer features
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Correct
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warboss said:
i guess that it's a fake because theres another video on his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw86a2-atEY <- same buildnumber -,-
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Not really, don't you think about the article on Sammobile?
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mikeyaj said:
people seem to think that the latest android version will bring the latest touchwiz/features of the note 5 and s6 to the s5. it won't and why would you expect it? it's an old phone. samsung want you to pay for a new phone to get newer features
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The S4 did get S5 UI and some of its features when it got updated to Lollipop

trettet said:
The S4 did get S5 UI and some of its features when it got updated to Lollipop
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I prefer the S5 UI, the icon images for example have more material design that it's successors *cough* *cough* the S6
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trettet said:
The S4 did get S5 UI and some of its features when it got updated to Lollipop
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so it didn't get the s5 features or ui
it got some bits and pieces
the s5 won't get anything of interest from the s6 or note 5

I would say that as long as we get 6.0.1 is a good thing. I mean is not like we're not going to run some custom ROM anyway. If it is on the latest android version we will probably be able to get some of if on all of the new features that marshmallow offers via mods.

Some tests on Galaxy 6 edge proved that Android 6 was much more multi threads processing better than Android 5 Lollipop. Hope the same things would come to our G900F
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The Marshmellow TouchWiz looks bad. When will Samsung come up with something cool?

ansariaamir_leo said:
The Marshmellow TouchWiz looks bad. When will Samsung come up with something cool?
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Never?
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[REVIEW] Official 6.0.1 TW firmware for Tab S

Here you have a proper review of the MM firmware update for the 8.4 inch model.
I personaly didnt like the update it hasnt got a much better performance and it hasnt got any design change like new samsung devices. It also hasnt got the theme store or microsd card as internal storage option. Its as laggy as the old LP and it doesnt have all languages (12 languages). Another thing to mention is that the s planner icon the gallery icon and the s browser icon are a bit blurred. It doesnt matter that much but its embarrassing anyway for such a big manufacturer like samsung. The biggest changes are the changed icons which now look like the ones on the note 5 on 5.1.1. Also the wallpapers has been repleaced with the s7 wallpapers as well as ALL transition animations. The last thing to mention is that the magazine UX is not working anymore, no matter if u activate it in the launcher settings or not.
Here is the video about the real life performance and all changes

Thank you for the review. At least we've been upgraded to 6.0.1 so the custom ROMs from the likes of yourselves will see an improvement

suburbadroid said:
Thank you for the review. At least we've been upgraded to 6.0.1 so the custom ROMs from the likes of yourselves will see an improvement
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Yeah but there are so many people who dont even know about custom roms.
And the bad performance like in 5.0.2 could be fixed also.
But yes u are tight at least we got thag update where others likentab pro didnt even got one updatesince now

Limited number of languages is because this first release is the Korean region version, and not an XXU1 (worldwide) version
It's sad indeed that Samsung has disabled adoptable storage for SD card. Do any of the workarounds found on other devices work here?

fred_be9300 said:
Limited number of languages is because this first release is the Korean region version, and not an XXU1 (worldwide) version
It's sad indeed that Samsung has disabled adoptable storage for SD card. Do any of the workarounds found on other devices work here?
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I am not sure but i think i have heard that someone has found a way to activate that on the s7..

Looking at the pictures I do not see much changing
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aumast said:
Looking at the pictures I do not see much changing
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That's because Samsung almost never update the Touchwiz UI for older devices.
The important part is that all Marshmallow features are there. (Well, except the adoptable storage, but there's a workaround using adb.)

TimurAlaskara_TR said:
I am not sure but i think i have heard that someone has found a way to activate that on the s7..
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That method has so far only worked on the S7. It fails on other devices like the S5 and Note 4 that got MM. A rooted device might have an alternative solution tho.
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Annoying that they didn't implement all the icon changes - ie they rounded all the default installed apps but not the Folder icon. The Note 4 got the new folders when MM came out. ?
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Annoying that they didn't implement all the icon changes - ie they rounded all the default installed apps but not the Folder icon. The Note 4 got the new folders when MM came out.
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Jup also saw that. Also the app drawer icon is still the same as before. They havnt changed anything on the TWlauncher :/

Sounds like my experience with MM on other devices. Not a huge difference. The improvements were fairly incremental. I'll probably keep LP on my rooted Tab S for a long time, and then flash the MM ROM when the final version/update comes out.

Guys, I totally understand your concerns about the shallow TouchWiz UI, but the major advancement with MM is supposed to be doze, which works under the hood. That alone justifies migrating to MM, IMHO. ?
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We always have the devs who makes sh*tty Samsung ROMs into masterpieces

Another important change is that this Rom should be compatible to a lot of newer Samsung apps as well as Rom mods from different devices. Stuff like Game Launcher or Good Lock for example should now work and maybe someone can port some other elements of newer devices like Grace UI. Good Lock alone is enough to change the notification UI BTW.
Anyway, what about the performance of the device? Has it improved with M?

Not really, performance is quite bad in my opinion.
Geekbench 4
822 - Single Core
1736 - Multi Core
Comparing with other geekbench 3 scores its around -40% multi core and -10% single core.

TheGoD said:
Another important change is that this Rom should be compatible to a lot of newer Samsung apps as well as Rom mods from different devices. Stuff like Game Launcher or Good Lock for example should now work and maybe someone can port some other elements of newer devices like Grace UI. Good Lock alone is enough to change the notification UI BTW.
Anyway, what about the performance of the device? Has it improved with M?
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Good lock has some bugs on the tab s.
The notification height is too small and the width of the quick settings and keep area is too big also.. However i fixed both with a modified good lock apk but it wont recompile -.- when i get that fixed i will upload this tab s modified good lock app
For grace ui i would recommend to wait its only aviable on phones yet. Sure we can port them but they wont look good on a tablet. The best way is to optimize them after porting but i know it from sucukrom when i ported s6 systemui and launcher - optimizing was hard and boring like hell.
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Not really, performance is quite bad in my opinion.
Geekbench 4
822 - Single Core
1736 - Multi Core
Comparing with other geekbench 3 scores its around -40% multi core and -10% single core.
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There must be gone something wrong while testing. This score is reallly bad..

TimurAlaskara_TR said:
Good lock has some bugs on the tab s.
The notification height is too small and the width of the quick settings and keep area is too big also.. However i fixed both with a modified good lock apk but it wont recompile -.- when i get that fixed i will upload this tab s modified good lock app
For grace ui i would recommend to wait its only aviable on phones yet. Sure we can port them but they wont look good on a tablet. The best way is to optimize them after porting but i know it from sucukrom when i ported s6 systemui and launcher - optimizing was hard and boring like hell.
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Wow, nice to see there is already somebody working on this (thanks for your support). I think its best than to wait for the Tab S3 to release which should be in the next few weeks anyway.
pacc said:
Not really, performance is quite bad in my opinion.
Geekbench 4
822 - Single Core
1736 - Multi Core
Comparing with other geekbench 3 scores its around -40% multi core and -10% single core.
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Geekbench 4 runs a completely different set of benchmarks than version 3. I just recently read a (I think) Anandtech writer rant about how not related Geekbench 3 scores are to the experience in practical usage compared to the (then still closed beta) Geekbench 4.
So you can't compare those scores at all.
I just run Geekbench 4 on my Tab S 8.4 with Lollipop (but using Iron Kernel - interactive governor - and f2fs data/cahce) and got this:
812 - Single Core
1849 - Multicore

Do this update upgraded the imprint sensor functions?
Now can I interact with other app or like before it is only to unlock the device?
This is the main feature I'm expecting from MM (plus Doze, obv)

skapez said:
Do this update upgraded the imprint sensor functions?
Now can I interact with other app or like before it is only to unlock the device?
This is the main feature I'm expecting from MM (plus Doze, obv)
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Yes, in MM apps can use the fingerprint API. This works with Google Play Store and Dropbox, to mention a few. My experience is with AOSP only, but I don't see why stock ROMs should be different.
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stopa10 said:
Yes, in MM apps can use the fingerprint API. This works with Google Play Store and Dropbox, to mention a few. My experience is with AOSP only, but I don't see why stock ROMs should be different.
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They didn't implemented the SDCard feature, they could also not implement this.
Before flash with odin the new FW I would like someone could assure me about this, because I will flash the new FW only to have this feature

Is it worth upgrading from Galaxy S6 to OP3T?

I'm stuck with touchwiz and I hate it
I want to upgrae to a phone with a great dev support and this seems like a good choice but I have no idea if its a good idea since I think I will be downgrading my camera and display

Isus <3 said:
I'm stuck with touchwiz and I hate it
I want to upgrae to a phone with a great dev support and this seems like a good choice but I have no idea if its a good idea since I think I will be downgrading my camera and display
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the s6 camera is better but the display I do not think will be a problem at all.

Well, yeah but you're upgrading much more than you're downgrading. Living stuck with a software you don't like its the worst that can happen tp you in smarphones world, the software its the only spec of your phone you're on direct contact with so it's pretty important
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Isus <3 said:
I'm stuck with touchwiz and I hate it
I want to upgrae to a phone with a great dev support and this seems like a good choice but I have no idea if its a good idea since I think I will be downgrading my camera and display
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Ofcourse!

I have the very same dilemma. Another concern is the warranty and support in case there are problems with the phone.

I'm currently unhappy with my S6 edge because of touchwiz and the battery for example. About 2 month ago my display broke and the fix would cost 260€ so I will buy a Oneplus 3t.
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Imo it's an upgrade. One plus is very similar to Nexus and for that even if the specs were not quite up to par to a previous device with an overlay it's still a win. I'm grabbing a 3T in a month or so. When I looked at the Pixel and Pixel XL and the op3t and op3 I made my mind up immediately. Going to keep my eyes on pixel also and see what happens there but just not willing to spend 800-900 USD on a phone at this point in my life. ;p Why when we can grab a Op3T for so much less and it's very similar in specs. External sdcards are over rated imo and for Samsung type phones. I've been a Nexus user since the Galaxy Nexus and well actually the G1 and never seen a use for them after ditching Samsung back on the S4. Internal is fine imo and I'm not into all the little marketing features like Sammy has. I'll take a clean phone with little to no extra crap onboard with a good camera and battery and screen any day and that's what I see we have here with the One plus 3t. I've studied the Op3 forums and battery is unreal and camera is very good. Coming from my Nexus 5x I can't wait!!!!! :angel: I look forward to seeing all of you on the forums.
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marc1091998 said:
I'm currently unhappy with my S6 edge because of touchwiz and the battery for example. About 2 month ago my display broke and the fix would cost 260â?¬ so I will buy a Oneplus 3t.
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Just curious, what's wrong with touch wiz?

Aimara said:
Just curious, what's wrong with touch wiz?
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It burns battery and it's ugly imo. The are two kinds of people, one who likes tw and one who doesn't. Neither are wrong just different taste is all. I prefer Nexus phones or phones like them.. (one plus..) Development is better for Nexus and One plus and there's more of it and it's more stable than on a Samsung device. I know that from owning them all and seeing for myself. You just can't beat how AOSP runs on a device like One+ and how many devs work on them constantly. It's just personal preference is all.
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toro_37 said:
It burns battery and it's ugly imo. The are two kinds of people, one who likes tw and one who doesn't. Neither are wrong just different taste is all. I prefer Nexus phones or phones like them.. (one plus..) Development is better for Nexus and One plus and there's more of it and it's more stable than on a Samsung device. I know that from owning them all and seeing for myself. You just can't beat how AOSP runs on a device like One+ and how many devs work on them constantly. It's just personal preference is all.
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it drains battery ? in what way ?

Aimara said:
it drains battery ? in what way ?
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Widgets and all the crap that runs in TouchWiz. Takes up ram too..
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toro_37 said:
Widgets and all the crap that runs in TouchWiz. Takes up ram too..
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oxygen os doesnt take up ram ?

Latest tw on s7 edge with 7.0 it's very nice..

cultofluna said:
Latest tw on s7 edge with 7.0 it's very nice..
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And it even came before OP 3 got Nougat.. that's impressive from Samsung...I used the latest touchwiz Grace UX on Note 5 and Note 7 and it is way better than normal touchwiz...but with Note 7 debacle, I had to buy OP 3...

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oxygen os doesnt take up ram ?
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It's a lot lighter and that's a fact. Also for me OOS its cleaner and beautiful to see, but that's just opinion
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Quite raw looking if you ask me, seeing the icons on it, guess that what pure android about, quite interested in this op 3t, will await the review, hopefully it does better on the display section.

Aimara said:
Just curious, what's wrong with touch wiz?
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Can't say that in words.
If you look at that crap which is installed on stock roms you get headache and that brains the battery like crazy and slows the phone down.
And if is even with a theme ugly
You even need to sort apps in stock launcher by alphabet manually with a button ?
If you try it for one year you get sick of it trust me. Even with theme and Nova launcher.
Samsung itself recommend to restart your phone every day to get the best performance and that in 2016 ?
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when is op3t out for sale ?

Isus <3 said:
I'm stuck with touchwiz and I hate it
I want to upgrae to a phone with a great dev support and this seems like a good choice but I have no idea if its a good idea since I think I will be downgrading my camera and display
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we are on the same boat, I just rooted my s6 and used Carhd rom and i regret it

Aimara said:
when is op3t out for sale ?
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nov 22nd