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12/16/2010 Captivate update. What is it?

Hi guys, I am a tmobile user so I don't have a captivate, but I do own a vibrant, nexus one, and nexus s.
I rooted my buddy's captivate a little while back. No custom rom or anything, just root, custom recovery, and such.
He just called me today and said he has a notification for an update and wants to know if he should get it. I told him no for now and I'll find out what it is.
So any of you captivate users get an update notification today 12/16/2010? What is it? Froyo? Is it safe to update with root and custom recovery?

No update afaik. It's probably jh7.
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curti.nogg said:
No update afaik. It's probably jh7.
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Ok so I just called him and he has f*3 I think he said? I don't even remember what he said but it was f something. Not jh7.
I guess would bring me to the question of whether we can just let the ota run it's course or if i need to take him back to stock first. Any thoughts? I'll call back and find out what exact version he is using if I need to. I'm kind of tired right now and forgot what he said.

Stock would be jf6 and the only ota the Captivate has received is jh7.
Edit: You should just flash a froyo rom imo.
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curti.nogg said:
Stock would be jf6 and the only ota the Captivate has received is jh7.
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Ok that's probably what he said, I just texted him to ask again. I knew it had a f in it though.
Do you know if i need to unroot and go back to stock recovery to update to jh7?
Ya he has jf6, just heard back from him. What is a stable everyday use 2.2 rom I should suggest to him? I'm guessing 2.3 will be ported soon too.

So no one knows if I have to unroot and revert the recovery to stock in order to get jh7 update safely? Currently on jf6 rooted with clockworkmod.

I've seen as others have also reported that if you have ever rooted your phone the OTA update to JH7 will fail. The phone will get to 50% in the update and fail. It could possibly even brick.

you would need to use the odin 1 click to update your buddies phone then re root it.
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avgjoegeek said:
you would need to use the odin 1 click to update your buddies phone then re root it.
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thank you, exactly the information I was looking for.

Old text message for update is old.

gunnyman said:
I've seen as others have also reported that if you have ever rooted your phone the OTA update to JH7 will fail. The phone will get to 50% in the update and fail. It could possibly even brick.
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It must be hit or miss. Had two phones and both rooted, with at the time oclf, and ain't bloatware removed. Both had ota go fine. But I guess better safe then sorry.
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Yea mine failed when I had attempted.
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I had been running the leaked Froyo and went back to stock. My OTA to JH7 always failed at 50%. I had to use Kies (what a piece of crap software) to finally get back to out of box. I had to return during 30 day for a continually crazy search button.

[Q] force update.??

first thing is that im rooted and tried to update the small "pre kitkat" update and all goes good til it gets to 25% then it says update fails and ive searched til i cant go anymore about ways to fix it so my question is that can att force update my phone to kitkat or should i wait til ss is updated for kitkat and if thats the case will i be able to flash in rom slot one and leave the stock slot alone ? im new to all this flashing roms and i dont have a computer so im trying to do everything from my phone any and all suggestions will help.

In on the same boat but I'm not rooted. It goes to 25 and then gets interrupted.
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shane1981 said:
first thing is that im rooted and tried to update the small "pre kitkat" update and all goes good til it gets to 25% then it says update fails and ive searched til i cant go anymore about ways to fix it so my question is that can att force update my phone to kitkat or should i wait til ss is updated for kitkat and if thats the case will i be able to flash in rom slot one and leave the stock slot alone ? im new to all this flashing roms and i dont have a computer so im trying to do everything from my phone any and all suggestions will help.
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Borrow a friend's pc or go to a library and use Samsung Kies, but you will lose root.

This is most likely because you deleted some the system apps that came with the stock rom..... This is why I never delete them only freeze with titanium backup! This happen to me on Ml9 so I had to restore stock rom reroot put super su in survival mode and then take the update!
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how would i go about doing that?
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shane1981 said:
how would i go about doing that?
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Kies is just going to tell you that your firmware is up to date. Either factory reset or you may have to use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715 < This is how I had to do it.

So if I am rooted and deleted the AT&T bloat apps, I can't install the KitKit update? What I unroot completely? I know that won't bring back the garbage AT&T apps back, but would I be able to OTA to kitkat then?

MattMJB0188 said:
So if I am rooted and deleted the AT&T bloat apps, I can't install the KitKit update? What I unroot completely? I know that won't bring back the garbage AT&T apps back, but would I be able to OTA to kitkat then?
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You will not be able to ota unless you do a full restore. You also must have att sim card. At&t is just dirty like that.

B_I_N_G_E said:
You will not be able to ota unless you do a full restore. You also must have att sim card. At&t is just dirty like that.
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Wow. Anyway, I was rooted, but had Wanam installed and successfully updated to Nb4. I had the fake system status set to official. I was alwasy under the impression if it said Official you could update.
And great, because now we all have to follow a really complicated guide to restore back to MJ5 if we want kitkat.

I was rooted on mj5 no wanam or anything and my phone update to nb4
It didn't even ask.
What you probably did was delete the att update software so now it's not even looking.
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I don't think being rooted affects your updating. I have read many people accidentally updating and loosing their root. If you couldn't update with root, people wouldn't freeze at&t update.

ive tried unrooting factory reset andthe only thing i can think of is that ive deleted something . i guess the lesson learned is juat freeze apps instead of deleting them
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Getting rid of superuser icon on the official 4.4.2 kitkat

As the title says I can't get rid of the super user icon on the official kitkat. Does anyone know a fix for this? I have super user but no root.
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You could try going to best buy and have them flash it... Other than that as of now no. There isn't a way
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You can only disable the app by going to System-App- and click disable. To 'get rid' of the app will require root but unfortunately there is no such thing as of now
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did you try uninstalling it from inside the playstore app?

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did you try uninstalling it from inside the playstore app?
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I'm experiencing the same issue, and no - since the phone thinks it's a system app, it will not let you completely uninstall it. It will however give you the option to uninstall any updates.
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You could try going to best buy and have them flash it... Other than that as of now no. There isn't a way
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Has this been done? I mean re-flash a stock NC2 over NC2 with the upgraded bootloader? If so, this will definitely get rid of that pesky SU app! Also, if it can be done, what do I say to the Samsung tech nerds about why i want it flashed?
Just asking.

Sounds like you're stuck with even more useless bloat then most.

Go to your nearest Samsung kiosk at your best buy and they will redo the update and that will get rid of the superuser files and all files associated with root. I just went and I'm root anything free. How I know is I used isis and didn't get the your phone is rooted message. Good Luck. O PS you won't loose anything meaning their update don't wipe your phone back to factory. But just in case do a BACKUP.
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Thanks guys for all you replies. Will try going to best buy soon to see if they can do it for me.
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Going bestbuy in your current state won't work. They are only able to do a update or emergency recovery to NC2, so you will still be stuck with non-working SuperSU still under /system/app even after reflashing. Unfortunately they don't have full factory reset image for 4.4.2 NC2 yet as of 5/17/2014.
What I did to remove that is to flash leaked Kitkat MLG with NC2 bootloader (look for the thread posted by Carl) using Odin, and this will wipe everything out. Then go to Bestbuy Samsung and update to NC2. This is the only way to remove SuperSU or any junk left behind.
As a precaution I did factory reset after I got mine updated to NC2 and after installing some stuff my PlayStore dissappeared so I had to do a factory reset another time. Now I think everything is pure stock.
And you don't have to make up any excuses about why you want it reflashed. Just tell them you had it rooted and now because att MFs locked down everything so bad you couldn't even get rid of it without flashing with leaked Kitkat. Samsung guys are there to help you.
I'm never going to buy another At&t crap again.

hp79 said:
Going bestbuy in your current state won't work. They are only able to do a update or emergency recovery to NC2, so you will still be stuck with non-working SuperSU still under /system/app even after reflashing. Unfortunately they don't have full factory reset image for 4.4.2 NC2 yet as of 5/17/2014.
What I did to remove that is to flash leaked Kitkat MLG with NC2 bootloader (look for the thread posted by Carl) using Odin, and this will wipe everything out. Then go to Bestbuy Samsung and update to NC2. This is the only way to remove SuperSU or any junk left behind.
As a precaution I did factory reset after I got mine updated to NC2 and after installing some stuff my PlayStore dissappeared so I had to do a factory reset another time. Now I think everything is pure stock.
And you don't have to make up any excuses about why you want it reflashed. Just tell them you had it rooted and now because att MFs locked down everything so bad you couldn't even get rid of it without flashing with leaked Kitkat. Samsung guys are there to help you.
I'm never going to buy another At&t crap again.
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I'm going to have to disagree with you since I was in the same boat as the OP. I went to Best Buy Samsung and they did the update from Samsung site and it wiped out all traces of root files and supersu. They first had to download the update from Samsung site and then they connected my note 3 on nc2 with superus still there. Once they finished I checked my disabled apps and superus was no longer listed. I did a complete factory restore to verify it worked and superus was nowhere to be found. Not sure what is different from AT&T update and Samsung but Samsung version completely wipes out root.
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[Q] Is the same Towelroot okay on 4.4.4?

I just successfully Odin'd back to stock 4.4.2 and updated to 4.4.4. Now that I want to get rooted/a custom recovery again, is it safe to root via towelroot and then install safestrap?
I imagine this should be okay, but I'd rather just ask first before I brick my phone, and googling it doesn't seem to pull up an answer.
As always, thanks y'all.

safestrap doesnt work with 4.4.4. and i dont believe root does. thats why in the other thread there is a way to update to 4.4.4 and keep root but no more safestrap recovery for now. and no way back to 4.4.2
i kind of wish i didnt update so soon as i lost the ability to save files to my external sd now, there was a fix for 4.4.2 but no longer works on the new 4.4.4

So do you have a link to the process that you used to Odin back to stock that worked ?

this is the thread I followed http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/how-to-root-n900aucudnj5-t2948355 but I was still on 4.4.2, once on 4.4.4 you cant flash back because of the kernel. if anyone else is reading this please correct me if I am wrong once on 4.4.4 we cant go back even with oden to 4.4.2

peterson65 said:
this is the thread I followed http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/how-to-root-n900aucudnj5-t2948355 but I was still on 4.4.2, once on 4.4.4 you cant flash back because of the kernel. if anyone else is reading this please correct me if I am wrong once on 4.4.4 we cant go back even with oden to 4.4.2
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If you updated via Odin with the 4.4.4 then you can revert back. But if you took the original ota then your f'ed....for now
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killacam1989 said:
If you updated via Odin with the 4.4.4 then you can revert back. But if you took the original ota then your f'ed....for now
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no I followed the thread about keeping root and flashed the modded 4.4.4 so I have a chance to go back then I guess

killacam1989 said:
If you updated via Odin with the 4.4.4 then you can revert back. But if you took the original ota then your f'ed....for now
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no I followed the thread about keeping root and flashed the modded 4.4.4 so I have a chance to go back then I guess
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You can Odin back to factory stock NC2 at anytime, regardless of the method used to update to NJ5 4.4.4.

Help needed..

OP update: fixed! Thanks! Fix was posted
My brother has a S5 g900a.. he's stuck on 4.4.2, ND3.. won't allow the OTA which is only the small 170mb (which from what I read was a ssmall bug fix blah blah blah.. well 4.4.4 is out OA1, well he can't update to it cuz the only OTA available is the small 170mb update which downloads fine but fails the install.. no 170 update means no 4.4.4 update.. can he Odin back to NCE to fix the OTA issues?? Anyone had luck with this? We even tried to use the stock recovery - update.zip from ext SD OA1 and when he did and it rebooted it still showed 4.4.2 as his FW.. I've read and read and all I see are people having issues but no good answer.. thanks guys (BTW I'm not accustomed to ATT nor the S5. I'm TMo Note 2 (and other phones) awaiting my Note 4 arrival tomorrow)
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HoustonsBirdman said:
My brother has a S5 g900a.. he's stuck on 4.4.2, ND3.. won't allow the OTA which is only the small 170mb (which from what I read was a ssmall bug fix blah blah blah.. well 4.4.4 is out OA1, well he can't update to it cuz the only OTA available is the small 170mb update which downloads fine but fails the install.. no 170 update means no 4.4.4 update.. can he Odin back to NCE to fix the OTA issues?? Anyone had luck with this? We even tried to use the stock recovery - update.zip from ext SD OA1 and when he did and it rebooted it still showed 4.4.2 as his FW.. I've read and read and all I see are people having issues but no good answer.. thanks guys (BTW I'm not accustomed to ATT nor the S5. I'm TMo Note 2 (and other phones) awaiting my Note 4 arrival tomorrow)
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i unrooted my s5 before and i went to accept that same update it downloads fine but whwn my phone would **** off to install it it would fail after 42%. so i did a factory reset and then redownloaded it and it installed fine. try it

Joehen873 said:
i unrooted my s5 before and i went to accept that same update it downloads fine but whwn my phone would **** off to install it it would fail after 42%. so i did a factory reset and then redownloaded it and it installed fine. try it
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He's factory reset it a few times already. I just instructed him to download NCE and flash via Odin. He did and is on NCE now, he checked for updates and of course there is a update.. he's updating now, I'm sure he'll have to go update to update til he gets back to where he was on 4.4.2 and then we'll see if the update he was originally trying but kept failing actually goes thru this time.. he's gonna text/call be soon with the results. I'll update with his progress soon.
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He ODIN'd back to NCE and OTAs still fail. So he's on a older version that he even started with the OTA issues.. don't make no sense. Told him to take it to Best Buy with a Samsung Experience team and have them flash the latest 4.4.4 .. what a bunch of BS. Glad I'm on TMo and my Note 4 arrives tomorrow. From the sounds of all the problems my Note 2 is better than a AT&T S5. Locked Bootloaders too? They screwed y'all. :thumbdown:
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HoustonsBirdman said:
He ODIN'd back to NCE and OTAs still fail. So he's on a older version that he even started with the OTA issues.. don't make no sense. Told him to take it to Best Buy with a Samsung Experience team and have them flash the latest 4.4.4 .. what a bunch of BS. Glad I'm on TMo and my Note 4 arrives tomorrow. From the sounds of all the problems my Note 2 is better than a AT&T S5. Locked Bootloaders too? They screwed y'all. :thumbdown:
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hes gotta go from nce to ne4 for it to even recognize the available ota.

Here
You need to make sure to search first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...to-root-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120

XsBones2 said:
You need to make sure to search first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...to-root-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120
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OK.. what I gathered was:
Downgrade to NCE (using the downgrade_to_nce file) via odin
Then just sideload the nce_to_ng3, then the ng3_to_oa1 via stock recovery ..
That should bring him to the latest stock unrooted OA1? Or will he have to go back and flash the kernels as well ? I got him doing the downgrade and side loading the other 2 otas right now. So I guess we'll find out soon enough.. what a bunch of BS you gotta go through on the S5 AND its a locked bootloader?? SO glad I got a N4 instead of a S5 lol
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how are we suppose to unrooted. i been having issues restoring to factory.

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My brother has a S5 g900a.. he's stuck on 4.4.2, ND3.. won't allow the OTA which is only the small 170mb (which from what I read was a ssmall bug fix blah blah blah.. well 4.4.4 is out OA1, well he can't update to it cuz the only OTA available is the small 170mb update which downloads fine but fails the install.. no 170 update means no 4.4.4 update.. can he Odin back to NCE to fix the OTA issues?? Anyone had luck with this? We even tried to use the stock recovery - update.zip from ext SD OA1 and when he did and it rebooted it still showed 4.4.2 as his FW.. I've read and read and all I see are people having issues but no good answer.. thanks guys (BTW I'm not accustomed to ATT nor the S5. I'm TMo Note 2 (and other phones) awaiting my Note 4 arrival tomorrow)
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I think that you are over complicating the process of upgrading to 4.4.4 . Mine originally failed trying to pull the OTA from AT&T. However my phone was extremely de-bloated stock rom(NG3). Muniz's safestrap upgrade to 4.4.4 worked flawless for me. As long as you are confident using safestrap I recommend that, and plus it will be rooted when you are done.

coho4life said:
I think that you are over complicating the process of upgrading to 4.4.4 . Mine originally failed trying to pull the OTA from AT&T. However my phone was extremely de-bloated stock rom(NG3). Muniz's safestrap upgrade to 4.4.4 worked flawless for me. As long as you are confident using safestrap I recommend that, and plus it will be rooted when you are done.
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We got it working.. Went to the Troubleshooting portion of the OP in the How-To-Root.. basically my brother couldn't do OTA update.. from ND3 forward.. So we downgraded to NCE per the file suggested, then we manually sideloaded the other 2 OTA files.. Thanks y'all. Sorry I wasn't comprehending it. I DO read and search just sometimes don't get my head wrapped around it. Thanks!
BTW: we are stock unrooted and wanted to keep it that way
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HoustonsBirdman said:
We got it working.. Went to the Troubleshooting portion of the OP in the How-To-Root.. basically my brother couldn't do OTA update.. from ND3 forward.. So we downgraded to NCE per the file suggested, then we manually sideloaded the other 2 OTA files.. Thanks y'all. Sorry I wasn't comprehending it. I DO read and search just sometimes don't get my head wrapped around it. Thanks!
BTW: we are stock unrooted and wanted to keep it that way
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Glad you got it fixed, but you know you will go back to root LOL...I use to tell myself that I would never root bootloader phones unless there is a current firmware available to restore with ODIN in case I **** up. However I stopped caring when all the roots out don't trip KNOX and if it comes down to it I can just have a AT&T store reload my firmware after playing stupid..did that once lol..

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Glad you got it fixed, but you know you will go back to root LOL...I use to tell myself that I would never root bootloader phones unless there is a current firmware available to restore with ODIN in case I **** up. However I stopped caring when all the roots out don't trip KNOX and if it comes down to it I can just have a AT&T store reload my firmware after playing stupid..did that once lol..
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LOL. I never leave phones stock.. this was my brothers phone, he was on ND3 and couldn't receive OTA updates, was essentially stuck on 4.4.2 and upset cuz 4.4.4 is out already and awaiting 5.0 hopefully. So he was a bit ticked off lol. I'm still on my TMo Note 2 running Lollipop, my Note 4 will be here tomorrow.. me and my bro have our own houses and weren't near each other, and he never rooted or flashed before so it was a figuring it out, communicating to someone.who doesn't flash issue
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