I am thinking of ordering the enhanced 64GB model from a Chinese seller (ebay or aliexpress). This would be the Chinese model. The sellers state that before shipping they install a multi-language ROM and Google Play, and that it will work no problem on my network (Canada).
Does anyone have experience with ordering such a phone? I have looked at the relevant threads on the forums of other Huawei phones and there seems to sometimes be problems with notifications and Chinese bloatware. I am also unclear whether I can expect to receive future OTA updates?
AFAIK at the moment a P9 Chinese version distribution has not yet been announced... and for the P9 the official availability is tomorrow 16th April.
The P9/P9 Plus presentation has been initially dedicated only to the European market, also prices where indicated in Euro, even if that event was held in London...
scdoyle said:
I am thinking of ordering the enhanced 64GB model from a Chinese seller (ebay or aliexpress). This would be the Chinese model. The sellers state that before shipping they install a multi-language ROM and Google Play, and that it will work no problem on my network (Canada).
Does anyone have experience with ordering such a phone? I have looked at the relevant threads on the forums of other Huawei phones and there seems to sometimes be problems with notifications and Chinese bloatware. I am also unclear whether I can expect to receive future OTA updates?
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all I can say is, even with the Chinese ROM, you can get all the google stuff without issues, with the exception being Now on Tap because the Home button is mapped to Huawei's own voice assistant.
i did have some issues with notifs on the Mate 8 but its since received at least 3 updates. My P9 is too new for me to notice any issues
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yellowchilli said:
all I can say is, even with the Chinese ROM, you can get all the google stuff without issues, with the exception being Now on Tap because the Home button is mapped to Huawei's own voice assistant.
i did have some issues with notifs on the Mate 8 but its since received at least 3 updates. My P9 is too new for me to notice any issues
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re: bloatware, it's possible to remove up to 90% of that stuff through "HiApp" - huawei's replacement for google playstore ( which is also where you download all the google stuff)
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all I can say is, even with the Chinese ROM, you can get all the google stuff without issues, with the exception being Now on Tap because the Home button is mapped to Huawei's own voice assistant.
i did have some issues with notifs on the Mate 8 but its since received at least 3 updates. My P9 is too new for me to notice any issues
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re: bloatware, it's possible to remove up to 90% of that stuff through "HiApp" - huawei's replacement for google playstore ( which is also where you download all the google stuff)
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That's great - thanks. My P9 is currently on its way so that's reassuring. I am not bothered about Now on Tap.
Presumably HiApp is in Chinese itself? Is it challenging to navigate around it?
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That's great - thanks. My P9 is currently on its way so that's reassuring. I am not bothered about Now on Tap.
Presumably HiApp is in Chinese itself? Is it challenging to navigate around it?
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it isn't in Chinese.. Once you've chosen English in your first setup step, all system apps show up in English. with the exception of bloatware. I believe there's a guide here on xda some place teaching folks how to download all the google stuff too. basically you'll need google play obviously, google contacts sync and google calendar sync. these are the basics you need to grab off HiApp. Then you can start using Google Playstore as normal to setup account etc
permissions are important as they are very strict and sometimes restrict first, and never ask later. be sure to check there often. Enjoy!
Just Got Mine Yesterday!
My P9 from a shop on aliexpress just came yesterday... and oh yes, it is pretty awesome! Going to use it a couple days and plan on doing a extensive comparison review to my LG G5 in my series of review called "Some Guy's Review..." I did one comparing LG G5 to the S7 Edge and people seemed to appreciate it... I have no brand loyalty so it a pretty honest review IMO
I try to sum up the general user / pro-user experience... what most people run into and care about.... plus stuff I always look for that are my "musts" for things I do in my daily life...
Not getting deeply into it, here's a quick 12-hour impression:
1. Design - It's a pretty phone, I got mine in Gold because the 64GB / 4GB only comes in Gold in China (EVA-AL10 Version is Chinese Version of EVA-L29 International Dual SIM). Let's say a Sony Xperia Z5 and an Iphone had a wild sexual encounter.... the result is a Huawei P9 (Basically an all metal Z5)
2. Snappiness - This phone rocks... didn't slow down even during setup... have yet to notice it heat up either! Have to put it through my grueling non-scientific testing of playing Clash Royale... hahaha. Really though, I won't do a AnTuTu or anything like that because those tests are pretty much meaningless to real world experience usage. Hope to have more later
3. Camera - have yet to take a "real" picture with it... tried it out, seems to have a lot of custom settings and a really good "pro" mode. more to come
4. Battery - seems spot on to all recent Huawei Phones, big, long lasting (that's what she said.... :silly: :good
5. EMUI - I am actually a fan of EMUI... especially with another launcher laid over (I use a HTC Sense Launcher Port). The amount of customization may annoy the regular user... but coming from having a Huawei Mate 8, I understand what you need to do to get everything working like you like. I will give more details later if it suffers from the "sleeping sickness" as I call it... this is where due to all the great battery customizations Huawei throws in, certain app notifications stop working after awhile because the app goes into hibernation and never comes out... time will only tell.
Look for a review probably Monday or Tuesday! I may even do a 3-way just for fun....!!! :good: :highfive: (3-way review... get your mind out of the gutter... hahaha)
I received my eva-dl00 yesterday. (Chinese Dual-Sim 32GB) from Ibuygou.com
Everythings seems to be ok, but Contact Syncing is not working. Any hint?
First impression: Nice phone, very solid quality! But coming from Vanilla....i don´t like EMUI.
Maybe i have to get used to it.
But the P9 with Stock Android would be awesome!
How are u finding notifications inflow? They come on time or with delays?? IMs like Whatsapp Telegram etc giving instant notification even when phone sleeps for 30 plus mins?
Seems to be ok. But it is only a first impression. Could be wrong.
Has anyone from Europe tried if the dual sim works for Chinese version ?
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My P9 from a shop on aliexpress just came yesterday... and oh yes, it is pretty awesome! Going to use it a couple days and plan on doing a extensive comparison review to my LG G5 in my series of review called "Some Guy's Review..." I did one comparing LG G5 to the S7 Edge and people seemed to appreciate it... I have no brand loyalty so it a pretty honest review IMO
I try to sum up the general user / pro-user experience... what most people run into and care about.... plus stuff I always look for that are my "musts" for things I do in my daily life...
Not getting deeply into it, here's a quick 12-hour impression:
1. Design - It's a pretty phone, I got mine in Gold because the 64GB / 4GB only comes in Gold in China (EVA-AL10 Version is Chinese Version of EVA-L29 International Dual SIM). Let's say a Sony Xperia Z5 and an Iphone had a wild sexual encounter.... the result is a Huawei P9 (Basically an all metal Z5)
2. Snappiness - This phone rocks... didn't slow down even during setup... have yet to notice it heat up either! Have to put it through my grueling non-scientific testing of playing Clash Royale... hahaha. Really though, I won't do a AnTuTu or anything like that because those tests are pretty much meaningless to real world experience usage. Hope to have more later
3. Camera - have yet to take a "real" picture with it... tried it out, seems to have a lot of custom settings and a really good "pro" mode. more to come
4. Battery - seems spot on to all recent Huawei Phones, big, long lasting (that's what she said.... :silly: :good
5. EMUI - I am actually a fan of EMUI... especially with another launcher laid over (I use a HTC Sense Launcher Port). The amount of customization may annoy the regular user... but coming from having a Huawei Mate 8, I understand what you need to do to get everything working like you like. I will give more details later if it suffers from the "sleeping sickness" as I call it... this is where due to all the great battery customizations Huawei throws in, certain app notifications stop working after awhile because the app goes into hibernation and never comes out... time will only tell.
Look for a review probably Monday or Tuesday! I may even do a 3-way just for fun....!!! :good: :highfive: (3-way review... get your mind out of the gutter... hahaha)
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I received my eva-dl00 yesterday. (Chinese Dual-Sim 32GB) from Ibuygou.com
Everythings seems to be ok, but Contact Syncing is not working. Any hint?
First impression: Nice phone, very solid quality! But coming from Vanilla....i don´t like EMUI.
Maybe i have to get used to it.
But the P9 with Stock Android would be awesome!
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How are u finding notifications inflow? They come on time or with delays?? IMs like Whatsapp Telegram etc giving instant notification even when phone sleeps for 30 plus mins?
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Seems to be ok. But it is only a first impression. Could be wrong.
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Has anyone from Europe tried if the dual sim works for Chinese version ?
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Posted my review here if interested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/how-to/huawei-p9-vs-tmobile-lg-g5-vs-tmobile-t3365349
I use the eva-dl00 in germany with 2 T-Mobile Sim Cards. Everythings works great. Including LTE.
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I received my eva-dl00 yesterday. (Chinese Dual-Sim 32GB) from Ibuygou.com
Everythings seems to be ok, but Contact Syncing is not working. Any hint?
First impression: Nice phone, very solid quality! But coming from Vanilla....i don´t like EMUI.
Maybe i have to get used to it.
But the P9 with Stock Android would be awesome!
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must check permissions!
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must check permissions!
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im having the same issue i checked the permissions for the contacts and i turned on and still the sync contacts on google accounts its not present like on my nexus 6p
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im having the same issue i checked the permissions for the contacts and i turned on and still the sync contacts on google accounts its not present like on my nexus 6p
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reboot after enabling permissions and Contact sync should appear
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reboot after enabling permissions and Contact sync should appear
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had to delete the account and create it again pain! worked now
I just got mine today. EVA-AL10. Beautiful phone. Works with cricket no problem... i was trying it out with my verizon sim didnt work. Seems to work well, but some of the stuff are in chinese like browser. Slowly removing the bloat and adding other software to it.
what did everyone end up doing when they first receive the phone? I factory reset it and downloaded google play store from hi app. I needed contacts sync and calendar sync so i downloaded from apk mirror. I downloaded gmail and everything. Its been a while since i came back from droid. I was with apple for a while. Last droid I had was a htc evo. Can't seem to get my contacts on this phone.
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what did everyone end up doing when they first receive the phone? I factory reset it and downloaded google play store from hi app. I needed contacts sync and calendar sync so i downloaded from apk mirror. I downloaded gmail and everything. Its been a while since i came back from droid. I was with apple for a while. Last droid I had was a htc evo. Can't seem to get my contacts on this phone.
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check and allow all permissions for contacta sync, reboot and see.
p. s. contact and calendar sync are both available from hiapp
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check and allow all permissions for contacta sync, reboot and see.
p. s. contact and calendar sync are both available from hiapp
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I searched for it numerous times couldn't find it. It works now, but still couldn't find in hiapp.Thanks!
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I bought an HTC Desire 510 few months ago cause my Xperia ARC died (was the best phone I ever had).
Now I am very disappointed with the HTC 510, mainly cause of it's awful operating system bundled by google ALL OVER the place
The user interface is a one big disaster, so much annoying and unnecessary stuff... besides the annoying bloatware (parental control app? srsly?)
I really wanna root this phone and change it's OS to those similar of gingerbreed, cyanogen etc but I don't know how to do this with my current phone
and don't even know what custom operating systems are available for the model I have.
What annoys me about the user interface:
*Often lowers the earphone music volume without my permission then gives me this annoying warning that making it higher will damage my hearing - srsly?
*Screen tends to lower it's lighting and back again by itself while I use the phone
*A button at the bottom of the menu that looks like a "home logo" will open somekind of useless google page each time I drag that button up by mistake.
*Terrible and irremovable Gallery app, not to mention it displays images in uncomfortable way, it also features a slideshow which often plays automatically without me asking it to each time I enter a photo album.
*Poorly made irremovable alarm clock app
*Other forced google apps installed on my phone which i don't use and can't just get rid of
*Bad just bad option of organizing apps, well for me atleast, back on my Xperia ARC I used to organize my apps by "commonly used apps" feature, went great, here it's just wacky, it doesn't do it automatically after you set it to organize the following way. So I find myself surfing through all the useless apps to find the app I need at the app menu.
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
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horrific google product
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Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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VigiDroid said:
Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
Sent from my HTC_0PCV2 using XDA Free mobile app
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Beggars can't be choosers. Of course this person is trying to be both.
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I bought an HTC Desire 510
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
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doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you.
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Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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All I can say (and I never said it was easy) is for you to subscribe to all of the HTC 510 Forums and start reading thru the threads. In your case, the most helpful one being this one..."Help & Troubleshooting" if you can not find answers to your particular questions then I would assume that means we just aren't there yet. This is a pretty new device after all. I wouldnt know about themes being I am on custom ROM and that is not an option. You should maybe go for the Unlock and root your phone method. Try out some of the ROMs available. I believe that will alleviate many of your issues since the stock ROM that came with these units have multiple issues. Many of them are the same ones you are experiencing. I wish you well and Read, Read, Read.
Good Luck
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Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now? I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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You should definitely read through the forums if you haven't so far. I have read/skimmed every thread here about our phone and I almost have no questions or concerns except for some ideas for a couple of issues that haven't been brought up yet or just not yet done.
I only use Sense Home or Dodol Launcher and they both don't have the option to sort by last used, check out Nova, Apex, or some other launcher.
As far as the update is concerned, you can follow this post by LarryBoyG, if you plan to stay on stock. I'm sure a custom ROM will be built that includes the update, unless everyone just wants to wait for Lollipop.
I have been seeing that apps like Package Disabler have been struggling to get around disabling packages with latest updates from samsung. Many users on the Play store keep complaining it doesn't work. Will the latest software of Note 8 work with package disabling? What about AdHell? is it as good a disabler like Package and BK?
Works fine in s8 plus. Perfect way to disable sh*tby totally.
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Works fine in s8 plus. Perfect way to disable sh*tby totally.
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Can the Bixby button be used for something else if it is disabled.
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Can the Bixby button be used for something else if it is disabled.
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Yes there are a few different apps for remapping the Bixby key or if you root you can do it yourself manually too.
Check in the s8 themes and apps section on XDA or just wait and they'll come to this one too.
However I like Bixby, it's quite helpful and saves me time
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Yes there are a few different apps for remapping the Bixby key or if you root you can do it yourself manually too.
Check in the s8 themes and apps section on XDA or just wait and they'll come to this one too.
However I like Bixby, it's quite helpful and saves me time
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I'm not planning on rooting, just disabling any unnecessary packages. I'm pretty happy with the Google assistant, and think that's likely to be superior to Bixby.
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I'm not planning on rooting, just disabling any unnecessary packages. I'm pretty happy with the Google assistant, and think that's likely to be superior to Bixby.
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The apps have non root options available so you should be good to go with those.
package disable doesnt work all the time. Its a known fact.
Samsung has told the dev to change some thing so it doesnt work.
I had it install on my phone and work great. Then one day i went to add another app to the list and the program wouldnt load.
So i uninstalled it and reinstalled it. Then got an error 102. Contacted the dev and he said it was samsungs fault and if im getting that error to uninstall and ask for a refund.
So with all that being said i doubt it will work on the note 8. I hope it does since i like to block ota updates but we will see what happens.
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package disable doesnt work all the time. Its a known fact.
Samsung has told the dev to change some thing so it doesnt work.
I had it install on my phone and work great. Then one day i went to add another app to the list and the program wouldnt load.
So i uninstalled it and reinstalled it. Then got an error 102. Contacted the dev and he said it was samsungs fault and if im getting that error to uninstall and ask for a refund.
So with all that being said i doubt it will work on the note 8. I hope it does since i like to block ota updates but we will see what happens.
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Curious what phone your currently using. My co worker just got the S8 and contacted the dev. The dev replied almost immediately with a link to the newest version that was not fully released yet. He hasn't had a problem since. That was this past week.
PDP Pro is working fine on my Note 4. That is an older phone that is on Marshmallow. It works well. I took a look at what was installed on the Verizon variant when I was in the Verizon store today and there was not much on it. Much, much less than what they installed on my Note 4. Does anyone know if they just put less on the model phones in the stores, or will there really be that little junk on the phone?
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Curious what phone your currently using. My co worker just got the S8 and contacted the dev. The dev replied almost immediately with a link to the newest version that was not fully released yet. He hasn't had a problem since. That was this past week.
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Tmobile s8+ The dev email me back within 5 mins and said if i got that error to ask for a refund and it wouldnt work. This was about 2 weeks ago.
But as said the app work when i first got my s8+ and installed it. but then i went to open it and it didnt open so uninstalled and reinstalled and it didnt work any more.
I'm sure they will work, some work better then others. the Bixby button is something that a lot of people don't really care for so if there is a way to remap/disable it, a post will be up fairly quick.
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I have been seeing that apps like Package Disabler have been struggling to get around disabling packages with latest updates from samsung. Many users on the Play store keep complaining it doesn't work. Will the latest software of Note 8 work with package disabling? What about AdHell? is it as good a disabler like Package and BK?
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it would be nice if they support they note 8 given the nasty they did to their customers when they caved to samsung and modified their app to let the stupid battery cap updates go thru on the note 7.
dear policedeveloper: that really sucked and you are gonna have to come back from that nasty deed. until you redeem yourselves, developer = police.
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it would be nice if they support they note 8 given the nasty they did to their customers when they caved to samsung and modified their app to let the stupid battery cap updates go thru on the note 7.
dear policedeveloper: that really sucked and you are gonna have to come back from that nasty deed. until you redeem yourselves, developer = police.
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Sorry, can't agree with this. Their decision to side with Samsung on this was good business sense. Had any customer using it been "lit up" by a faulty battery while the installation of the update was blocked by PD, they'd have been wide open to a lawsuit regardless of what the license agreement said.
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Sorry, can't agree with this. Their decision to side with Samsung on this was good business sense. Had any customer using it been "lit up" by a faulty battery while the installation of the update was blocked by PD, they'd have been wide open to a lawsuit regardless of what the license agreement said.
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i agree that this is the case but all the same i remember when it happened and was annoyed - i planned, as i have done, to use the note 7 for as long as i could and i was incensed at the attempts to hobble it and end those plans prematurely.
luckily i dodged this (and the others) and got a lot of good use out of it as a tablet. it totally rocked as a backup telecommute device or when on the go. the s-pen is what makes it work. remote desktop on windows 10 is actually pretty functional for coding. and this is a phone i just sold for $380. i can't complain about how it ended up but, yeah, i was a bit upset that these devs were assisting the attempts to hobble it.
i can't wait to try to work using the note 8. i checked one out in best buy yesterday and, tho intimidated by the size (that sounds wrong), i have high hopes for how it will perform as a telecommuting device.
Omg was this not a simple process, finally running L29C636 on the mate 10, fully re branded, the China firmware wasn't bad but too much chinese
Managed to brick it in the process, FRP locked, Bootloader locked, after a long night crying in my sleep we finally manged to unbrick and do it properly, or I should say he did lol
All thanks go to FUNKYHUAWEI, jesus this ain't like it was on the Mate 9, that was s, so simple, FH is finding a way to simplify it but that might not happen, you really gotta know what you're doing here but with FH's help...he made it look easy, very happy now, I'll rebrand to C432 when thats available lol, I feel much better about doing it again
Great news! Where can we find the instructions and the International firmware? Thanks!
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Great news! Where can we find the instructions and the International firmware? Thanks!
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Funkyhuawei support, go to their site
Hi. Once you've rebranded, do you get the updates associated with the new "brand" you converted to? Thanks!
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Hi. Once you've rebranded, do you get the updates associated with the new "brand" you converted to? Thanks!
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Sure.
Serious question. I understand many want to rebrand Chinese ROM to international L29 ROM. But why? My understanding is that you can change AL00 system language to English and you can install Google Play (and services). You can even uninstall all the Chinese bloatware apps via Huawei's Application Store manager app.
So what are the pros and cons? Surely there will be more updates too with the AL00 ROM considering Huawei is a Chinese manufacturer?
So why debrand? Why not just stick to AL00 and do all the above? What am I missing?
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Serious question. I understand many want to rebrand Chinese ROM to international L29 ROM. But why? My understanding is that you can change AL00 system language to English and you can install Google Play (and services). You can even uninstall all the Chinese bloatware apps via Huawei's Application Store manager app.
So what are the pros and cons? Surely there will be more updates too with the AL00 ROM considering Huawei is a Chinese manufacturer?
So why debrand? Why not just stick to AL00 and do all the above? What am I missing?
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You cannot remove all the chinese things from china firmware that's why.
What "Chinese things" though? How do they affect day to day use? Thanks.
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What "Chinese things" though? How do they affect day to day use? Thanks.
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You will get Hiboard instead of Google's version of that board. Hivoice instead of Google Now. Since the yellow book is filled with Chinese contacts, the dial pad shows up predictive Chinese contacts from yellow book whenever you dial. The Music and Video app has Chinese online content. And maybe because of the new "AI" introduction you might face China based AI pop up tips. You can turn off the Hiboard, but you can't replace it with Google board in a way you get the same swipe left shortcut. You can't remove nor replace the Hivoice (swipe up shortcut). The Music and Video app you can only get around by hiding the app and using alternate app from playstore. The Chinese Yellow book problem in dial pad also could not be resolved, however not sure if its different on the Oreo + EMUI 8. Most bloatware can be deleted but a couple of them cannot be. So those who wish to use the Chinese rom be sure you can adapt to these. Also not sure if 3rd party NFC payment apps will work.
Up to now I have brought Huawei phones from China because Huawei releases these phones internationally a couple months later, it is priced cheaper and more faster rom updates. So i didn't take much issue to the problems stated above. But this time i might go for the local version of Huawei itself as the release date here is not far off and the price is as cheap as the official price in China (getting from re sellers in China would increase price by 100-200$) and if i get 4-6 rom updates a year (https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/how-rom-update-year-t3696371) that should be more than enough for me.
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What "Chinese things" though? How do they affect day to day use? Thanks.
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I can't remember all but one of them is the chinese yellow page in dialer.
And one more thing not sure if they fix the notification bug in mate 10 cause in mate 9 all chinese firmwares has a bug that won't allow notifications like WhatsApp and Facebook to appear till you open the application itself.
gm007 said:
And one more thing not sure if they fix the notification bug in mate 10 cause in mate 9 all chinese firmwares has a bug that won't allow notifications like WhatsApp and Facebook to appear till you open the application itself.
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That is more to do with changing the settings that makes selected apps to close when phone is in sleep and also maybe toggling notification permissions. Also there is toggle in wifi settings which turns off wifi when in sleep.
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Sure.
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Hi. Thanks. Just to be clear. Does that include OTAs. Or are updates handled via FunkyHuawei? If you happen to know, can one simply purchase the rebranded Mate 10? Thanks again!
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tboy2000 said:
Serious question. I understand many want to rebrand Chinese ROM to international L29 ROM. But why? My understanding is that you can change AL00 system language to English and you can install Google Play (and services). You can even uninstall all the Chinese bloatware apps via Huawei's Application Store manager app.
So what are the pros and cons? Surely there will be more updates too with the AL00 ROM considering Huawei is a Chinese manufacturer?
So why debrand? Why not just stick to AL00 and do all the above? What am I missing?
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All the replys are quite accurate. From my experience with the Mate 9, another thing I noticed is that there are some features that work only if you know Chinese language. For example, you can set the phone to answer a call, hands free, by voice but you have to say "answer" in Chinese. I could never figure a way around that.
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That is more to do with changing the settings that makes selected apps to close when phone is in sleep and also maybe toggling notification permissions. Also there is toggle in wifi settings which turns off wifi when in sleep.
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It's not about settings,the notifications bug in Chinese firmwares is true and you cannot do anything about it,you can check by yourself the mate 9 forum.i don't have the phone anymore but i remember correctly.
mscion said:
Hi. Thanks. Just to be clear. Does that include OTAs. Or are updates handled via FunkyHuawei? If you happen to know, can one simply purchase the rebranded Mate 10? Thanks again!
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All the replys are quite accurate. From my experience with the Mate 9, another thing I noticed is that there are some features that work only if you know Chinese language. For example, you can set the phone to answer a call, hands free, by voice but you have to say "answer" in Chinese. I could never figure a way around that.
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When you rebrand the phone you will get the ota specified for the region u rebranded to,so no worry about that.
Once rebranded the phone acts like a genuine phone from the region it's rebranded to. Ota updates work normally. You can use volte, WiFi calling and so on
According to O2 in the UK, Volte only works with phones with O2 firmware so it's no point rebranding specifically if you want Volte and you will use an O2 SIM card.
Hi, did you by any chance managed to achieved root as well ? Saw funkyhuawei post on reddit regarding rooting mate 10.
And root is indeed all i need on any android phone. Including this. LoL
Btw, unfortunately, there's no VoLTE option on 636. My carrier has VoLTE and worked out of the box with my s8 and pro7, but not this phone
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Hi, did you by any chance managed to achieved root as well ? Saw funkyhuawei post on reddit regarding rooting mate 10.
And root is indeed all i need on any android phone. Including this. LoL
Btw, unfortunately, there's no VoLTE option on 636. My carrier has VoLTE and worked out of the box with my s8 and pro7, but not this phone
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Yeah root only works. I had volte and wifi calling on mate 9 oreo beta. But not mate 10 at the moment. How do in an update
how about volte
lawtq said:
Omg was this not a simple process, finally running L29C636 on the mate 10, fully re branded, the China firmware wasn't bad but too much chinese
Managed to brick it in the process, FRP locked, Bootloader locked, after a long night crying in my sleep we finally manged to unbrick and do it properly, or I should say he did lol
All thanks go to FUNKYHUAWEI, jesus this ain't like it was on the Mate 9, that was s, so simple, FH is finding a way to simplify it but that might not happen, you really gotta know what you're doing here but with FH's help...he made it look easy, very happy now, I'll rebrand to C432 when thats available lol, I feel much better about doing it again
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dose it support VOLTE in EURO? because C636 for Asia market !
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You will get Hiboard instead of Google's version of that board. Hivoice instead of Google Now. Since the yellow book is filled with Chinese contacts, the dial pad shows up predictive Chinese contacts from yellow book whenever you dial. The Music and Video app has Chinese online content. And maybe because of the new "AI" introduction you might face China based AI pop up tips. You can turn off the Hiboard, but you can't replace it with Google board in a way you get the same swipe left shortcut. You can't remove nor replace the Hivoice (swipe up shortcut). The Music and Video app you can only get around by hiding the app and using alternate app from playstore. The Chinese Yellow book problem in dial pad also could not be resolved, however not sure if its different on the Oreo + EMUI 8. Most bloatware can be deleted but a couple of them cannot be. So those who wish to use the Chinese rom be sure you can adapt to these. Also not sure if 3rd party NFC payment apps will work.
Up to now I have brought Huawei phones from China because Huawei releases these phones internationally a couple months later, it is priced cheaper and more faster rom updates. So i didn't take much issue to the problems stated above. But this time i might go for the local version of Huawei itself as the release date here is not far off and the price is as cheap as the official price in China (getting from re sellers in China would increase price by 100-200$) and if i get 4-6 rom updates a year (https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/how-rom-update-year-t3696371) that should be more than enough for me.
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I have the 115 C636 ROM and it has the Hiboard instead of the Google Now.. Is there anyway to enable google board instead?
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I have the 115 C636 ROM and it has the Hiboard instead of the Google Now.. Is there anyway to enable google board instead?
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I haven't used EMUI8.0 however for all previous versions, you cannot replace the Hiboard. You can only disable the Hiboard via home screen settings. I don't know if it can be done after rooting though.
The cliche of Chinese products being flawed is unfortunately extending even to well known brands like Huawei which I was hoping wouldn't be the case.
Not long ago I returned yet another dysfunctional piece of kit from a Chinese company and I'm on the verge of returning my Mate 10.
If I knew better I'd also return my Mate 9.
The Mate 9 has had a lot of issues (GPS for example) and for me, ruining my holiday, the random inability to change network settings to allow data roaming. Only a back up and hard reset which took the best part of a day worked.
Now the Mate 10 has the well documented horrific flaw of not updating widgets. What's worse is there is COMPLETE silence from Huawei over this issue despite repeated attempts through various channels for a response by me.
My phone is pretty much unusable. Widgets are the crowning glory of Android and the reason I jumped ship from iPhone and stayed. Without reliable updating widgets the phone is little more than a brick.
With my two experiences with Huawei phones I can categorically say that they are just unreliable sub-par products sadly.
My Samsungs have all had hardware issues (battery related), btu at least whilst they were intact they worked flawlessly as advertised, fit for purpose. The Huaweis are not even getting to the stage to be used enough for the hardware to fail as they are just not fit for purpose - far too buggy.
I hope I never touch a Huawei product again and can only hope that the competitors build phones with specs good enough to compete.
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The cliche of Chinese products being flawed is unfortunately extending even to well known brands like Huawei which I was hoping wouldn't be the case.
Not long ago I returned yet another dysfunctional piece of kit from a Chinese company and I'm on the verge of returning my Mate 10.
If I knew better I'd also return my Mate 9.
The Mate 9 has had a lot of issues (GPS for example) and for me, ruining my holiday, the random inability to change network settings to allow data roaming. Only a back up and hard reset which took the best part of a day worked.
Now the Mate 10 has the well documented horrific flaw of not updating widgets. What's worse is there is COMPLETE silence from Huawei over this issue despite repeated attempts through various channels for a response by me.
My phone is pretty much unusable. Widgets are the crowning glory of Android and the reason I jumped ship from iPhone and stayed. Without reliable updating widgets the phone is little more than a brick.
With my two experiences with Huawei phones I can categorically say that they are just unreliable sub-par products sadly.
My Samsungs have all had hardware issues (battery related), btu at least whilst they were intact they worked flawlessly as advertised, fit for purpose. The Huaweis are not even getting to the stage to be used enough for the hardware to fail as they are just not fit for purpose - far too buggy.
I hope I never touch a Huawei product again and can only hope that the competitors build phones with specs good enough to compete.
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Widgets work fine for me. No issues with auto updates.
gee2012 said:
Widgets work fine for me. No issues with auto updates.
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Thanks for the feedback. Perhaps the 10 Pro is different.
For me and for many others (check the threads) this is a big deal that is as yet unresolved even with yesterday's update.
No problems here with my Mate 10.
Using Huawei phones since 2013 and no plans to change yet.
Overreaction of there ever was one
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Overreaction of there ever was one
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Of you say so mate. Of you say so.
Change ur nickname to huaweihater lol
gm007 said:
Change ur nickname to huaweihater lol
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My thought, exactly! [emoji23]
Pretoriano80 said:
My thought, exactly! [emoji23]
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Hehe I could do, but I don't hate Huawei really, I just wouldn't recommend people buy their products based on my (and a whole multi-page threadful of) experiences on the flaws with this phone and Huawei's comically bad response to it, which so far seems to be "if widgets do't work that's not our fault - they are third party apps - you wouldn't buy a car and put a truck engine in it so why are you installing widgets?"... no BS, check out the thread. They are ridiculous. But nowhere near as Apple and their deliberate slowing of phones. My Mate 9 actuall gets faster with use - exactly as Huawei claims., They do do some stuff right!
The widget updating issue is frustrating, but rooting (as I explained in the thread) solves the issue by letting you freeze the responsible system app. You may not want to root -- and I agree that you shouldn't have to root to fix this issue -- but you might be a much happier camper if you did.
Mate 10 pro here and no problem with my widgets.
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Mate 10 pro here and no problem with my widgets.
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Not sure which Widgets you use, but it's mainly the scrolling types that freeze up.
Ok. No scrolling widget. Will try my mail widget later.
Had a p9 since they first came out and now a mate 10 pro. Best phones I have had and don't see any of those issues. Neither of them were rooted either.
No problem on my mate 10 pro. It's strange this message. Just now that the all patriotic America has fear of other smartphone maker. There aren't just apple or samsung...
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The widget updating issue is frustrating, but rooting (as I explained in the thread) solves the issue by letting you freeze the responsible system app. You may not want to root -- and I agree that you shouldn't have to root to fix this issue -- but you might be a much happier camper if you did.
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Ah... it's such a big thread it's got to 12 or 13 pages now (yes guys.... this is a big problem and no i'm not the only one) that I must've missed your solution. Every solution' has come back a couple of days later with "no sorry the problem persists". I'm open to rooting if need be I'm just scared to do it largely because mine is a CHinese one with an international ROM put on it, I have no idea how that will pan out. Or how it will affect other aspects of EMUI. Might be going down a rabbithole there... might be best to return it and buy... well... there's nothing else that comes close to this sadly Grrr.
what a troll... can one of the admins close this thread? please?
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what a troll... can one of the admins close this thread? please?
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Um.. sorry how am I a troll by saying Huawei has a problem and I wouldn't recommend it?
applehater00 said:
Um.. sorry how am I a troll by saying Huawei has a problem and I wouldn't recommend it?
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Scrolling widgets like chrome and Gmail is no problem for me, tried a factory reset?
Redmi K20 Pro Chinese variant Google Maps issue
does anyone have google maps timeline is turned off
no matter what i do my location history is paused and location sharing is not working as well
does anyone face the similar issue?
Map timeline works well here, no automatic disabling of location history.
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Map timeline works well here, no automatic disabling of location history.
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well,it not working for me, can you explain me how you did it?
ashok9949 said:
well,it not working for me, can you explain me how you did it?
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I didn't do anything special. It was functional from the beginning.
I have this in maps as in below attachment
I tried all, miui permission,app settings, battery optimization and app permission
I turned on everything but still I can't share my location and I can't view my timeline in Google maps
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I have this in maps as in below attachment
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Alright, I checked back and found location history off in the setting showed in the attachment. Did some digging and found that it's a widespread problem for china rom.
So, trying global rom is only option left.
Hi!
I have same problem and I think it have to do with ROM we are using. I'm guessing you are on CN ROM (as I am) and kibria.mgk is on IN version of ROM.
It must be something that Xiaomi removed from CN ROM.
I also have problem with using AR in Google Maps and guess it is all connected.
We have to wait for Global (EU) version and then it will work.
It's really disgusting that Xiaomi choose to lock the bootloader according to region,
I thought Android was open source and end-user is is free to choose what he wants ,how he wants his device to be,but these kind of things, I don't F*going understand,if I had brought something from someone then I don't have right to do to anything with the product I have purchased and I own ?
It's like you have freedom but still it's been regulated
WTF ??? Common man!!
Unlocking bootloader is like potential risk of your device to get hacked, at today everything is on phon. I mean literally all your personal data and Information regarding your bank account or your contact or your pictures,you name it you have it on your phone
And most recently it saw a news update that snapdragon proccessor has been hacked,it's named as repawn or snappawn I don't remember exactly
But what the ****???
I spent alot of money on a new device that it's better and secure than my previous device,but I'm so restricted???
I don't really understand
I feel like I should get back to my old Nokia black and white phone where I don't have to face all this ****
And just play snake game for fun
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It's really disgusting that Xiaomi choose to lock the bootloader according to region,
I thought Android was open source and end-user is is free to choose what he wants ,how he wants his device to be,but these kind of things, I don't F*going understand,if I had brought something from someone then I don't have right to do to anything with the product I have purchased and I own ?
It's like you have freedom but still it's been regulated
WTF ??? Common man!!
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ashok9949 said:
Unlocking bootloader is like potential risk of your device to get hacked, at today everything is on phon. I mean literally all your personal data and Information regarding your bank account or your contact or your pictures,you name it you have it on your phone
And most recently it saw a news update that snapdragon proccessor has been hacked,it's named as repawn or snappawn I don't remember exactly
But what the ****???
I spent alot of money on a new device that it's better and secure than my previous device,but I'm so restricted???
I don't really understand
I feel like I should get back to my old Nokia black and white phone where I don't have to face all this ****
And just play snake game for fun
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What are you complaining about. All regions are bootloader locked. All regions can unlock the bootloader. You are free to install anything you like on all versions of the phone.
The only restriction is that you can only relock the bootloader with the official ROM from the same region the phone is from.
Try buying an iPhone and see how much freedom you get to do what you want with the phone.
Same issue here on Taiwan telecom usage.
No Google Location History function in Google Map.
Can not Enabled it even install Apk from APKMirror.
On my Mi 9T Pro (global rom) everything is turned on, nothing paused, no battery restrictions, no monkey business whatsoever. Still, when I during one day by car visit six places, only 2-3 places is 'recorded' and visible on my timeline. What could possibly be the culprit here? Any suggestion appreciated.
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It's really disgusting that Xiaomi choose to lock the bootloader according to region,
I thought Android was open source and end-user is is free to choose what he wants ,how he wants his device to be,but these kind of things, I don't F*going understand,if I had brought something from someone then I don't have right to do to anything with the product I have purchased and I own ?
It's like you have freedom but still it's been regulated
WTF ??? Common man!!
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China set is sold much cheaper then global ,of course they want to control sales within their country,but many want to save $$ and buy china set ,so it's really the user choice to get china or global set. And don't ask me why china set are sold so much cheaper.
i flashed miui eu rom, location history is on but still, my timeline is can't record any place i visit that day...
Does anyone know of a work-around on China ROMs, as that is the issue.
Possibly a patched Google Maps app or system mod?
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i flashed miui eu rom, location history is on but still, my timeline is can't record any place i visit that day...
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I have exactly the same problem. Worked for a while then stopped.
I'm on china rom and planning to flash to eu rom.
I was wondering does the nfc working on eu rom?
fijea said:
I'm on china rom and planning to flash to eu rom.
I was wondering does the nfc working on eu rom?
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This is a thread for Google Maps issues, but I'm on EU ROM and am using NFC happily for Google Pay after following the guidance found elsewhere, so the answer is yes.
ianmxyz said:
I have exactly the same problem. Worked for a while then stopped.
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sorry for late respond bro,
update your ROM MIUI eu stable 11.0.4.0
it works