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Hi Guys,
I've been wondering for a few days, Sony is basically making the "Waterproof" function of this phone as the main selling point.
I'm just curious as to how the insurance and warranty is going to be affected by the water proof.
As I know most insurances claim its water damage and say its not covered.
Can they still do this with the Xperia, as its water proof?
Are warranties etc going to change incorporating the water-proof(ness).
Thanks.
It's not water-proof, it's water-resistant.
The water seals inside the phone will still void your warranty if voided, its just like a water proof camera, if YOU haven't secured your waterproof flaps/seals properly and then submerge it, then it is user error.
Wait a minute, so why the hell do they claim "Water-PROOF" whens it not.
So basically, you couldn't just wash it off like the advert.
Define RESISTANT compared to PROOF....?
??? It is water resistant, I washed my xperia z a few times now, mostly as a show of, and also spent some time in the bath with it watching....
Nevermind point is when you don't close the flaps and submerge it the sensors underneath the flaps turn red, making warranty void, but if there is water damage without the flap sensors tripping, then you are covered by warranty, some users are worried about the flaps turning red, but for me they are still white eventhough I submerged the phone in water several times now.
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bucho2004 said:
??? It is water resistant, I washed my xperia z a few times now, mostly as a show of, and also spent some time in the bath with it watching.... PPPOOORRRNNN
Nevermind point is when you don't close the flaps and submerge it the sensors underneath the flaps turn red, making warranty void, but if there is water damage without the flap sensors tripping, then you are covered by warranty, some users are worried about the flaps turning red, but for me they are still white eventhough I submerged the phone in water several times now.
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Hmm, what flaps?
Sony is deceiving me here. I though it was water-proof !!
Wilks3y said:
Hmm, what flaps?
Sony is deceiving me here. I though it was water-proof !!
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Erm... There are flaps on the phone covering every port and I'm sure the Xperia Z is advertised as water resistant. Not waterproof. It can still witstand being submerged underwater for up to 30mins and 100m though.
I guess you mean 1m and not 100m. But that would have been nice for deep sea diving.
anjath said:
I guess you mean 1m and not 100m. But that would have been nice for deep sea diving.
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Hahahah XD Yeah! My bad! Was doing Math while typing that post
Math screws up your brain.
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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bkbatboy said:
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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So whats the use in the flaps?
Why not just remove the flaps and then theres no chance of you messing up?
PokerFaze said:
Hahahah XD Yeah! My bad! Was doing Math while typing that post
Math screws up your brain.
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Maths obliterates your brain !!
Originally Posted by bkbatboy
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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You are wrong, it is
IP55 = Limited dust ingress protection low pressure water jets from any direction
and
IP57 = Limited dust ingress protection immersion between 15cm and 1m depth
And as long as the flaps are closed you'll be a ok.
biffsmash said:
Originally Posted by bkbatboy
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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You are wrong, it is
IP55 = Limited dust ingress protection low pressure water jets from any direction
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IP57 = Limited dust ingress protection immersion between 15cm and 1m depth
And as long as the flaps are closed you'll be a ok.
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What the heck, I need to see one of these in real I think.
I really wanted one but now with all the talk of flaps I'm thinking twice...
go ahead and get it. this is the most rugged high end phone to date and probably for the entire year 2013. all the best.
Wilks3y said:
What the heck, I need to see one of these in real I think.
I really wanted one but now with all the talk of flaps I'm thinking twice...
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The flaps don't really disturb, To charge the phone you can use the dock, and for listening to music (if you do that a lot) you can go with bluetooth earphones.
And I've submerged my phone also in a galss of water and also took it into the shower, you should just make sure that you dry your phone before openening the flaps again, then avaerything should be fine
Great, Xperia looks like my upgrade then. May see some of you around here in a few months time when I'll be an owner
Have fun all, thanks very much for your responses.
Do you maybe know any kind of protecting film or ligth waterproof case that could fit XZR for undersea snapshots? I'd like to make some underwater photos in ocean/sea like reef corals or colorful fish but I would avoid risking salt water to ruin speaker, buttons or mic. Swimming pool shooting works quite well without any problems.
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dsa88 said:
Do you maybe know any kind of protecting film or ligth waterproof case that could fit XZR for undersea snapshots? I'd like to make some underwater photos in ocean/sea like reef corals or colorful fish but I would avoid risking salt water to ruin speaker, buttons or mic. Swimming pool shooting works quite well without any problems.
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ok, what i'm about to say is only a suggestion and is not proven facts nor do i take responsebility on it but:
salt water are more dengerous than tap water if you let them linger and dry, so the salt and other minerals starts attacking your flaps and rubber.
basicly if you wash your device throughly in fresh water right after dipping it in salt water it should be perfectly fine.
now chlorine water in pools might be a different case, cos the chlorine is quite agressive.
Take a DC or DV that provided waterproof shell . You can easily clean or change waterproof shell and you don't need to record sounds under salt water.
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So I'm HUNTING for a waterproof case for this phone with summer coming...and I can't find any name brand ones...otter box is taking FOREVER to release theirs! I know the phone is itself supposed to be waterproof, but the ear phone hole doesn't seem protected. Looking in there I see metal prongs for the ear plug connectors. Is there supposed to be a cover for it?
I believe the headphone port is self sealing, otherwise the phone wouldn't have the ip67 certification.
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The headphone port is indeed self sealing. Source A)IP67 cert B)YouTube videos C)I submerged my own in a glass bowl filled with water and it lived just fine unscathed to allow me to author this post.
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
Moved to Q/A.
Audio is just metal touching metal, no need for it to be covered. It is however one reason you can't take this phone in salt water. Fresh water only. I take mine to the beach all the time, nice not to worry about getting splashed or rained on, but definitely want to rinse it with fresh water if it gets any salt water on it at all.
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The headphone port is indeed self sealing. Source A)IP67 cert B)YouTube videos C)I submerged my own in a glass bowl filled with water and it lived just fine unscathed to allow me to author this post.
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
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Remember IP67 certified as far as liquids go is 15cm to 1m (roughly 3ft) and is considered Water Resistant for short periods of time, in order to be Waterproof it must meet IP68 standards which is extended exposure to liquids.
Got it! Thanks all! i wanted to test it in the pool this weekend, but got nervous lol!
itsnowornever said:
Got it! Thanks all! i wanted to test it in the pool this weekend, but got nervous lol!
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i would caution against "Pool" water in any case as the chlorine content will damage the oleophobic coating on the glass (thisis the coating that helps resist fingerprints and smudges)
EW! So it's good for pond water only? LMAO! Otterbox needs to hurry up and come out with the darn waterproof case!\
So back on topic...there is a case called Griffin Defender series that claims to have waterproofing. I had a griffin on my old s3 and dropped in water plenty of times and it kept water out. Hope I could help. Check them out.
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They're are cases now from lifeproof and otterbox... one of them isn't released yet, but I can't remember which one.
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The lifeproof one is out, the otterbox is not out yet.
Waterproof case? I put mine into a sink full of water 15 minutes after buying it out right. That satisfied me and I just bought a regular case
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Not Waterproof
byte9 said:
The headphone port is indeed self sealing. Source A)IP67 cert B)YouTube videos C)I submerged my own in a glass bowl filled with water and it lived just fine unscathed to allow me to author this post.
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
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i just bought mine and i took it for a test in the pool and took pics and video and i opened to see if water got inside and yes some drops where inside but not in the important area so i dry it close it and it was good until later i try to see the pics and the screen went wild and then the horror screen went from white to black and that was it i try to dry it with hairdryer nothing i came back to live for a sec only to do the same then the rice trick nothing now is all black i can hear the phone respond but no image and im in despair since att told me warranty is void cuz the water indicator is red so im f up. Can someone help me out with some miraculous fix for this problem please i just bought it and im beyond broke. I got isopropyl alcohol if i dunk it without the battery of course will the acohol damage the amoled lcd or the camera or anything? if i dry it well will it come back to life or will the lcd digiticer permanetly dead ? HELP ME OUT HERE PLEASE :crying::crying:
Let's see. You knew you could not afford another phone. Yet, you wanted to test it by going swimming?
I don't know about the alcohol, but maybe the phone will come around once it's fully dry.
But regardless, I hope you learned your lesson here. Although these phones and some cases are supposed to be resistant, that doesn't mean we should be taking our phones in showers or going swimming with them around here. Every phone is not built the same, or how it should be, and someone's phone eventually was going to fail.
Jsong69 said:
HELP ME OUT HERE PLEASE :crying::crying:
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A)IP67 cert = Dust proof / Water Resistant in 3ft of water for up to 30min. I'm guessing you went deeper than 3ft. They advertise splashes and accidental sink/toilet drops. It's not an active phone or underwater camera and nobody said or advertised it as such.
I don't wish your phone to be dead. The best thing you can do is NOT power it on and let it sit in rice for 48hrs. Don't be impatient, let it sit. You've continued to power it on shortly after the immersion so I would manage your expectations, It may be done.
Good Luck.
Hi,
The water proof feature is nice. However, I prefer sea water for snorkeling etc. So given corrosiveness of salt it's probably not a good idea.
Still from many reports people seem to have it surviving even salt water submersions when not too long and rinsing it immediately afterwards with fresh water.
But i don't want to dessctroy my nice Z3C obviously, so been looking for intermediate solution, like sealed zip bags or so, that would prevent it from too much wate rcontact, and if it leaks or whatever, it will still not die.
Any idea what could be used , if possible not too big to fit the Z3, and still let take some pics?
The phone is not rated for salt water, so I wouldn't want to try it. Salt water splashes from waves are probably fine.
I also wonder if Sony has a way of telling if salt water got in the phone should you have to send it in for warranty service. Plus, it's also gonna be much easier to inadvertently exceed the depth rating in the ocean. Definitely best to get a dry bag of some kind IMO.
Something like this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1035195-REG/loksak_lok_alok3_4x7_3_aloksak_bags_4_5x7.html
Or this: http://www.amazon.com/FRIEQ®-Universal-Waterproof-Carrying-iPhone/dp/B00AW2QT8I/ref=pd_cp_sg_0
There are a ton of waterproof phone cases/bags out there. Just be sure to pick one that promises super-clear plastic for photos.
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Sorry for wrong forum and thanks for moving it.
I finally ordered one of these: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AW2QT8I/ref=pe_385040_121528360_TE_dp_1
Will see how it works with the Z3C
Excuse me... Why should the Z3C not be waterproof in saltwater???
I really cannot see the problem? It is not that saltwater is more wet than "normal" water...
The saltwater will leave some salt when it is dry but you could easily remove this by putting the Z3C in water without salt for some minutes...
I don't believe the salt will do much good to the oliphobic coating of the screen or audio connector.
We are talking about 30 minutes of contact with salt...? To play it safe you use it in salt water for 20 minutes and then put it in normal water for 5 minutes and all the salt is gone...?
And by the way are both the power button and the audio connector made of aluminium...? And why would salt ruin the oliphobic coating of the screen...?
I could understand if pool water with chlorine could do something to the screen but since Sony advertise that you can use it in the pool then that shouldn't be a problem...
Salt is more corrosive unlike chlorine
cyphomatic said:
Salt is more corrosive unlike chlorine
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In contact with iron, yes...Plastic, glass and aluminium, no - not for a 30 minute contact...
Foxhunter123 said:
In contact with iron, yes...Plastic, glass and aluminium, no - not for a 30 minute contact...
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Indeed, I believe that the audio connector might be a weak spot. It sure isn't aluminum. I had other waterproof equipment before with an audioconnector that came into contact with seawater, wich turned out very bad. I won't take a chance.
I will try my Z3c within a week or so when I'm in the Canary Islands.
Have used my previous phone, Xperia ZR, in saltwater many times. No problem at all!
Dont do it. The water proof is only for freshwater.
You may want to read this page : http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiaz3compact/dm/water-and-dust-resistance/
Never immerse your device in salt water or let the micro USB port, headset jack or other uncovered parts come into contact with salt water. If you’re washing dishes by hand, avoid letting your device come into contact with the detergent or any other liquid chemicals.
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If your Sony smartphone or tablet is waterproof to IPX8 standard*, then you can use it in a chlorinated swimming pool. However, avoid keeping the device in the pool for too long and remember to rinse it off thoroughly with fresh water once you get out.
Over time, chlorinated water can corrode the rubber seals, so prolonged use in chlorinated water is not recommended. But if you want to use your device to get underwater close-ups of a spectacular dive or your child’s first swimming lesson, go ahead.
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Apart from the fact that Sony says don't immerse the phone in salt water, common sense suggests the copper contacts of the mag charger and headphone jack will not fair well (salt water will leave a nice oxide layer on both, which will impact the conductivity). A few minutes and very careful cleaning of the jack (not just a quick rinse) will probably be OK, but then we also have no idea how the glass coating, camera lens coating and various waterproofing membranes will fair in salt water. Knowing the corrosive nature of salt water and Sony's warning I certainly wouldn't risk dunking it in the ocean. YMMV
There was one story of a z2 that survived after being submerged for 6 weeks in salt water
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...g-submerged-in-salt-water-for-6-weeks_id59223
I've used both my previous Z1 Compact and now my Z3 Compact in saltwater, not an issue at all.
Just pour some fresh water on it afterwards.
Blue grotto, long swim from gradola. no problem later
Use a condom, tie a knot waterproof
pakjebakmeel said:
Use a condom, tie a knot waterproof
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For playing safe, you should use one of those waterproof bags for smartphones if you want to take your phone for dives in salt water so necesserily.
You would normally be right
Foxhunter123 said:
Excuse me... Why should the Z3C not be waterproof in saltwater???
I really cannot see the problem? It is not that saltwater is more wet than "normal" water...
The saltwater will leave some salt when it is dry but you could easily remove this by putting the Z3C in water without salt for some minutes...
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However, the frame is aluminium, which doesn't play nice with salt water.
So I was reading the nexus 6 spec sheet and I saw that it was water resistant. I was wondering if anybody knows how water resistant it is since I know that it doesn't have the standard IP 6/7 military rating that most phones that are water resistant claim to have. Like will it survive a me dropping it in a puddle or being submerged completely? IS anybody else curious?
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So I was reading the nexus 6 spec sheet and I saw that it was water resistant. I was wondering if anybody knows how water resistant it is since I know that it doesn't have the standard IP 6/7 military rating that most phones that are water resistant claim to have. Like will it survive a me dropping it in a puddle or being submerged completely? IS anybody else curious?
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There was a post of someone doing some things with it in a bathtub, http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/video-nexus-6-water-test-submerge-t2949904 . But since it isn't rated, this is a YMMV sort of situation.
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There was a post of someone doing some things with it in a bathtub, http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/video-nexus-6-water-test-submerge-t2949904 . But since it isn't rated, this is a YMMV sort of situation.
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Thanks for the link bro. That video made me cringe.
My Xperia Z drowned in a bath eventually, no way will I be doing anything like that with the Nexus 6. Had to claim on insurance for water Damage on a water proof phone!