Hi all, I have never experienced this kind of wierd issue with any of my past phones. When i would play games or say watch a movie on phone,( my last one was Htc One X), i would usually connect it to a charger so that the battery keeps charging slowly, and it worked with each of my past and even my gf's galaxy s4. But with XZ, the battery keeps continuously discharging. Anyone got any fix for this? With the kind of weak battery XZ has, it is a highly needed basic feature. I even tried with a 2A S4 charger, but to no effect. I even tried the modding of usb cable by shorting the data wires (the green and the white wire cut and insulated), still no improvement.
I have been using existenz v1.5.5 kk, and i can see that there is an option of fast charge in performance control. But turning it on doesnt make any change. Does the kernel not support fast-charge?Can anyone share any insights? It feels stupid to have to lay the phone down letting it to charge by itself olny to get all discharged within 3 hours.
billamin said:
Hi all, I have never experienced this kind of wierd issue with any of my past phones. When i would play games or say watch a movie on phone,( my last one was Htc One X), i would usually connect it to a charger so that the battery keeps charging slowly, and it worked with each of my past and even my gf's galaxy s4. But with XZ, the battery keeps continuously discharging. Anyone got any fix for this? With the kind of weak battery XZ has, it is a highly needed basic feature. I even tried with a 2A S4 charger, but to no effect. I even tried the modding of usb cable by shorting the data wires (the green and the white wire cut and insulated), still no improvement.
I have been using existenz v1.5.5 kk, and i can see that there is an option of fast charge in performance control. But turning it on doesnt make any change. Does the kernel not support fast-charge?Can anyone share any insights? It feels stupid to have to lay the phone down letting it to charge by itself olny to get all discharged within 3 hours.
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Charging is really a problem for XZ. Anyways, shorting the data wires won't help, try switch to a stronger cable that's capable of transferring larger amount of electricity when you're using the 2A charger (many of those cables aren't able to transfer enough amount of electricity).
Also, when your phone is really fully loaded and became very hot, just as when you use it for navigation in your car under the sun, the charging speed will decrease (I don't even know why). The charging speed decreases either when you're touching the screen or when it's hot.
Anyways, try better cables first and see if it helps. The docking system is also likely to charge faster.
Darren_J said:
Charging is really a problem for XZ. Anyways, shorting the data wires won't help, try switch to a stronger cable that's capable of transferring larger amount of electricity when you're using the 2A charger (many of those cables aren't able to transfer enough amount of electricity).
Also, when your phone is really fully loaded and became very hot, just as when you use it for navigation in your car under the sun, the charging speed will decrease (I don't even know why). The charging speed decreases either when you're touching the screen or when it's hot.
Anyways, try better cables first and see if it helps. The docking system is also likely to charge faster.
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I used a whole bunch of cables. The HTC one actually works as an anti-charge cable lol, it eats up battery even when the phone is left on charge unused. I had high hopes with the S4 cable, which turned out to perform same as the stock Sony one. Guess I have to live like this..
billamin said:
I used a whole bunch of cables. The HTC one actually works as an anti-charge cable lol, it eats up battery even when the phone is left on charge unused. I had high hopes with the S4 cable, which turned out to perform same as the stock Sony one. Guess I have to live like this..
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Sorry to hear that the cables you tried all failed. Did you try using the docking system? They should perform better though.
I mentioned switching cables because I had a "anti-charge" cable before, lol. I did some research afterwards and finally got some 22AWG cables and they really made a difference. It's said that they're capable of transferring 3A electricity and it's really different from all other cables I've used. They're just about $2 each because they're handmade, I can give you one if you wanna have a try.
Also, charging by AC power should be better than using the power of cars' lighter. I'm using my docking system with the SONY stock charger w/ ac power. Never disappointed me.
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Sorry to hear that the cables you tried all failed. Did you try using the docking system? They should perform better though.
I mentioned switching cables because I had a "anti-charge" cable before, lol. I did some research afterwards and finally got some 22AWG cables and they really made a difference. It's said that they're capable of transferring 3A electricity and it's really different from all other cables I've used. They're just about $2 each because they're handmade, I can give you one if you wanna have a try.
Also, charging by AC power should be better than using the power of cars' lighter. I'm using my docking system with the SONY stock charger w/ ac power. Never disappointed me.
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Dude you might not be able to give me even if you wanted to.. I am in india and the shipment cost will be excessive. Thanks a lot btw.
I flashed Carbon KK rom and the charging is comparatively better. Atleast it doesnt drain while i use the phone for browsing etc, connected to a wall charger. But if I play games or watch videos on speaker, it does to some extent. I bought one more charger, a Nokia made 750 maH charger (AC 20N) which again is wierdly same in performance compared to both the 1.5A Sony and 2A Samsung. What I think is as you said, the wire makes all the difference. A 2A non detachable is the need of the moment for XZ it seems..
Anti-charge cable?
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From my experience usually Google Play Services is the culprit for hot phones and battery drain. What I did when on stock 4.4.2 was i uninstalled updates for the services and my battery life improved by a lot. Although it does come with the downside that some apps like youtube won't work with the older version (easy work-around by using chrome to go to youtube instead =P)
Since I own that phone, I've been facing the same problem of slow charging speed (actually discharging when using some applications)
The more problematic case in when I'm using the phone in car when driving even if I'm using a powerful car charger (Anker).
In the past I also have tested number of diffferent charger and cables (including original Sony car charger) without seeing *any* improvement.
Recently I've decided to took time to make a comparison test with a colleague Nexus 5. We have connected it in my car to the same charger and used in the exact same configuration (Waze navigation app running) for a one hour drive on the same work->home daily path where I use usually my Xperia.
The measured results have shown for the Nexus a 30%/hour increase of battery level opposed to the Xperia 10%/hour decrease I'm facing every other day.
Later, using "Android tuner" application battery monitoring tools, I've been able to measure that, even when using a 2.2 Amp capable charger, the Xperia isn't able to "suck" more that 700/800mAmp input current most of the time.
To go further I've asked in the french forum where I've posted those figures if any people had been successful to have the Xperia battery level increasing in the same configuration. I have got only answers of other people acknowledging having the same problem as myself.
Then I've also asked people in the "accessories" section of a car owners (Toyota) vehicle forum: found people having the same issue are also owning Sony models.
Also asked another colleague who who owns a Xperia model Z1: ditto.
I definitively start to think that there is a defect is a in the battery charging regulation system of the whole Xperia range.
BTW: I will be very interested if anyone using an Xperia Z in car with navigation application running without those issues could post details about his charger brand and model, and how much battery percent/hour increase he his actually getting with that setup.
Sorry for the long message and thanks for your attention
Wireless charging on my bundled Wireless Charging Convertible pad stopped working yesterday and I haven't been able to get it to function again. Starting yesterday morning, the charger pad wouldn't recognize the phone at all, case off. After playing around for a while, including clearing the cache from Recovery, I can get the charger to recognize the phone, the phone now says Fast Charging, but the phone continues to drain over time vs charging. Some users in the past have gotten a Charging Paused message, by I don't get that message unless I remove the phone from the charging pad.
I've tried two Samsung Fast Charging AC adapters, the USB cable that came with the charging pad, and an Aukey cable, same results.
Has anybody else experienced any issues like this with their Note 8 or convertible charging pad?
Edit: MST also doesn't work, I'd guess it's related.
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Wireless charging on my bundled Wireless Charging Convertible pad stopped working yesterday and I haven't been able to get it to function again. Starting yesterday morning, the charger pad wouldn't recognize the phone at all, case off. After playing around for a while, including clearing the cache from Recovery, I can get the charger to recognize the phone, the phone now says Fast Charging, but the phone continues to drain over time vs charging. Some users in the past have gotten a Charging Paused message, by I don't get that message unless I remove the phone from the charging pad.
Has anybody else experienced any issues like this with their Note 8 or convertible charging pad?
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Only way to diagnose this would be by trying to charge the phone with another wireless charging pad.
Does your phone charge normally through the provided type-C cable and power adapter?
Found a non-convertible style wireless charger a co-worker had, which charges his S7, but doesn't charge mine Note8. Could it be the phone itself?
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Found a non-convertible style wireless charger a co-worker had, which charges his S7, but doesn't charge mine Note8. Could it be the phone itself?
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I would not rule that out. I would take your charger and phone to a local best buy and test against a display, if your charger charges other phones, then it's your note. Or try your carriers local corporate store, they probably would help as well.
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Well I can verify that the phone is the problem. Note 8 won't charge on any wireless charging pad, and Samsung Pay's MST also stopped working at the same time. Going to contact Samsung and see what can be done, hope I don't have to set up a new phone yet again.
This happens to me alot. I have 2 wireless pads, 1 verizon (from my note 7) and the Samsung Fast Charge.. It just stops working randomly.. Reboot the phone, then starts working fine again.
I still use my Nokia wireless pad....I found it charged the time as the Samsung fast wireless charger.
Probably not much help but are you on the latest firmware? When I updated mine it said the new changes were for the camera & wireless charging but of course no other details.
I haven't had a problem with mine though even before the update. I don't have the bundled charging pad though, I'm using the older Samsung fast charge pad.
https://www.sammobile.com/2017/09/1...-firmware-update-improves-camera-performance/
Good luck. Same problem with my s8+, samsung says its not the phone. But it is. Every problem with a warranty repair is like pulling teeth with samsung. I wish LG would up thier phone game just a little, and I would never buy another samsung again.
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is this after the 9/25 update? Mine stopped charging after that update on both Samsung fast wireless chargers I have.
I have a Note 5 that will not charge on either a normal wireless Samsung charger or a fast charger Samsung pad IF the protective case is on it. This started just this week. I can remove the protective case and then it will charge.
I don't recall getting an update on or after 9/25. N950USQU1AQI5. I did get an update that improved camera performance, but it was a week or two ago. Just performed a factory reset, no luck on a fresh install. I can also confirm MST on Samsung Pay still doesn't work after factory default, they have to be related. Frustrated I'm going to have to deal with warranty. After two Note 7's, going through another Note 8 is beyond frustrating. QA @ Samsung could really use some work.
So Samsung has agreed to repair/replace the phone, but I'll be without the phone for 3 weeks. Since I just switched to Verizon, the only old cell phone I have won't work. Since I bought from Samsung.com directly, Verizon won't help. Samsung.com refuses to provide a loaner/temp phone or to cross-ship a new one. Their manufacturing defect means I have to bear the burden of their problems. I wouldn't care too much about wireless charging, but MST is also affected, and I love MST.
Lesson learned - Never purchase a phone directly from Samsung.com, even if that means getting a discount or promotion.
I just sent my Note 8 in for the Same thing. After 4 weeks of ownership it stopped charging wirelessly.
The Samsung Rep I spoke to seemed to think it was related to the NFC, something about NFC being involved in the wireless charging some how. So MST must be the reason.
I sent my Axon 7 for warranty repair the same day. Luckily I still have my LG V20 and Nexus 6P (with is horridly degraded battery), so I have backup phones.
I'm on firmware AQI5 and wireless charging has stopped working completely. I've tried Samsung and third party chargers, all of which worked last week and still work with other phones. So I'm thinking it's a firmware bug...
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Wireless charging on my bundled Wireless Charging Convertible pad stopped working yesterday and I haven't been able to get it to function again. Starting yesterday morning, the charger pad wouldn't recognize the phone at all, case off. After playing around for a while, including clearing the cache from Recovery, I can get the charger to recognize the phone, the phone now says Fast Charging, but the phone continues to drain over time vs charging. Some users in the past have gotten a Charging Paused message, by I don't get that message unless I remove the phone from the charging pad.
I've tried two Samsung Fast Charging AC adapters, the USB cable that came with the charging pad, and an Aukey cable, same results.
Has anybody else experienced any issues like this with their Note 8 or convertible charging pad?
Edit: MST also doesn't work, I'd guess it's related.
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Describes my problem almost perfectly. Now on my third VZW note 8. First one charged fast wireless for exactly a month. Second one, worked for eight days. Now the third, 7 days.
All four of my offical Samsung wireless chargers quit recognizing at the same time. FYI; two charge pads and two charge stands all fast wireless and purchased thru out my time with S7 Edge (went thru 2 rounds note 7). To add to that the new promo convertible quit at the same time as well.
Pretty darn sure it's in the phones. The latest phone charged wirelessly to 100%, then nine hours of driving later, no go. Pulled my UAG Monarch off, still nothing. Tried the other wireless chargers, nothing. No new apps or settings changed during my drive. Thoroughly confused.
All three of phones were put thru the ringer with VZW tech support: check this, check that, safe mode and the end all factory data reset, still no go every time. I contacted Samsung directly once, what a waste of time. Their only answer was send it in for evaluation and possible repair or replacement, you should have your phone back in a couple weeks. Second go around with Samsung, I was transferred by VZW. Their answer that time was; send the phone and the charger. Had to reply, which charger, all of them? Samsung, then told me all of my older chargers aren't compatible with the note 8 and must have damaged it. That style of charger is still readily available and advertised as note 8 compatible.
I've never used NFC or MST, so I can't comment on that.
All three phones fast charge on the wire.
Can anyone verify compatibility or lack there of with all these fast wireless chargers I own?
Willing to try anything at this point. I would dump the 8, if I didn't use the pen so much. Been using note phone since the 2.
It's the phone. Contact Samsung for warranty repair.
Just got mine back and its working fine again.
RojasTKD said:
It's the phone. Contact Samsung for warranty repair.
Just got mine back and its working fine again.
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Do you know what they had to do to fix it?
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Do you know what they had to do to fix it?
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According to the rep I spoke to it was to do with NFC, as it is somehow involved with the wireless charging process.
Sound a bit strange, but others are saying that wireless or MST payments are both affected. So I guess wireless payments and wireless charging are somehow connected.
RojasTKD said:
It's the phone. Contact Samsung for warranty repair.
Just got mine back and its working fine again.
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I don't think it is. I got them to do a warranty replacement, and my new phone worked fine. But, as soon as I wiped my old phone in preparation for returning it, it started working as well. Then, a couple of days later, my new phone stopped wireless charging.
Right now, I am just hoping that the Oreo update fixes it.
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Sound a bit strange, but others are saying that wireless or MST payments are both affected. So I guess worked payments and worked charging are somehow connected.
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I also am not convinced about this. My wireless charging is not working, but myt Samsung Pay works fine.
Just seen message 'charge connected device' when connected to BMW charging socket.
It's pretty cool if it can for example charge my Bluetooth headphones
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Yeah I saw a video mentioning this. You can use the included USB adapter to plug in a charging cable. I haven't tried myself. Guy mentioned something about it only balancing though, for example if you are trying to charge another phone, the Note 8 won't full charge the other device, they will just get some what equal.
Apparantly other older Samsung devices could do this too but you need Samsung's app to do it. It was called power sharing or something like that.
You got the message plugging it into your car? Weird, that doesn't make any sense. What would it be trying to charge on your car?
Used to charge my Gear Watch with my Note 4.... Note 8 also does it.
ok deffo can be useful on train as sometimes travelling to from work headphones die, so if i can juice up some amount that would be useful. Will try this asap
Hello All,
I am kind of furious right now.
Did couple of trips with my Mi 11 Ultra using Android Auto wirelessly.
When I am not charging the phone it gets warm or really warm and works fine.
Only issue then is the battery drain which is more or less a 1% a minute.
While charging the phone on the 18W induction charger or using a QC charger with a cable the phone overheats.
It's hot to the touch. It displays multiple "overheating" popups. Screen is really dark too.
Normally I can't feel any heat from the phone under normal use. Using cameras makes it a bit warm as does gaming but AA just kills it.
Does anyone use Android Auto regularly with Mi 11 Ultra? Are you experiencing similar issues?
Try using an old-style 5V 2A charger, not QC.
Preferably don'use a wireless charger.
Anyway, using wireless Android Auto and a cable charger is a nonsense, then use Android Auto connected by cable to the car stereo.
Battery drain is just why wireless Android Auto till now has had only few implementations by car manufacturers...
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Try using an old-style 5V 2A charger, not QC.
Preferably don'use a wireless charger.
Anyway, using wireless Android Auto and a cable charger is a nonsense, then use Android Auto connected by cable to the car stereo.
Battery drain is just why wireless Android Auto till now has had only few implementations by car manufacturers...
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I don't think using wired AA is an option in BMW
eXelium said:
Hello All,
I am kind of furious right now.
Did couple of trips with my Mi 11 Ultra using Android Auto wirelessly.
When I am not charging the phone it gets warm or really warm and works fine.
Only issue then is the battery drain which is more or less a 1% a minute.
While charging the phone on the 18W induction charger or using a QC charger with a cable the phone overheats.
It's hot to the touch. It displays multiple "overheating" popups. Screen is really dark too.
Normally I can't feel any heat from the phone under normal use. Using cameras makes it a bit warm as does gaming but AA just kills it.
Does anyone use Android Auto regularly with Mi 11 Ultra? Are you experiencing similar issues?
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Consider yourself lucky!
Most people here can't even get AA to work on this device
I use it in my pocket sometimes for Google maps navigation when riding a motorcycle and it gets hot
If you change the 5g to 4g it stays noticably cooler
speedtripler said:
I use it in my pocket sometimes for Google maps navigation when riding a motorcycle and it gets hot
If you change the 5g to 4g it stays noticably cooler
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I blocked 5g since I had the phone
Some sites tell that Mi 11 Ultra got an update to fix overheating issues at the end of July. But last EU Rom update was in June. FFS Xiaomi give us the updates!
Hi everyone,
I recently bought this terminal and I have detected these two problems:
When I charge the phone (with the original charger) with the screen on it charges excessively slow, depending on the app you are using it even discharges even if it is connected. In addition, it is never fulfilled what it says on the screen that is left to finish charging, at least twice. The funny thing is that it seems that with the screen off it charges much better. The mobile always says that it is charging fast.
On the other hand, something similar happens to me with bluetooth headphones: if I'm using the phone while listening to music it cuts out very frequently, and if I'm with the screen off it works normal.
Does this happen to anyone else, could it be a motherboard or OS problem?
The phone is upgraded and less than a month old.
you can see the amperage you're getting by installing Ampere from play store.
if it's really low it could be a faulty USB daughter board