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What to expect?

So I just picked up a moto x from AT&T and I'm just curious what the realistic expectations for the development community on this phone are.
I'm coming from the DNA which had a decent following but from reading through the forums so far it's hard to tell what I could expect for the moto x.
Ideas?
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cc16177 said:
So I just picked up a moto x from AT&T and I'm just curious what the realistic expectations for the development community on this phone are.
I'm coming from the DNA which had a decent following but from reading through the forums so far it's hard to tell what I could expect for the moto x.
Ideas?
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So far the consensus is: Probably not much developer support, but no one really seems to think the device needs it. Its stock google except for touchless control and active notification, both of which are stellar features.
edit - there are rumors that cyanogenmod is working on a port though

anotherfiz said:
So far the consensus is: Probably not much developer support, but no one really seems to think the device needs it. Its stock google except for touchless control and active notification, both of which are stellar features.
edit - there are rumors that cyanogenmod is working on a port though
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I have to agree. It looks like the development won't be here because of the specs. It's a shame too because I love this phone and was hoping that a good dev community would get on board. But so far that doesn't look like it is going to happen.

This phone has only been out for a month, the DE version has only been out for a couple of weeks, so wait be patient and we will have custom roms
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Also agree...i dont think there will be any development for ATT version because of locked BL.
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I'm guessing once they drop the price $100 it could get more popular. The fact its on every carrier I think helps. But the locked boot loader on the two biggest us carriers doesn't
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I asked bmc08gt about aokp and this is what I got.
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I'm not sure its due to the "specs", given that they are pretty cutting edge.
I think its more that the time is not worth the RoI

I'm very happy with where the phone is but knowing myself that only usually lasts a month or two.
Was just curious what everyone thought, thanks for the input.
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It would really suck if there isn't much development. Don't know if I could own an android phone without flashing custom roms.
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It would really suck if there isn't much development. Don't know if I could own an android phone without flashing custom roms.
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The only point to flash a custom ROM is to improve on the crappy stock. The moto x is almost perfect. Unless the developer really puts a lot of thought into a ROM for us I'd be willing to bet we'd FUBAR something up when it comes to features. I'd just like a little bit more customization options. Other than that, this phone is as solid as they come.
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matt99017d said:
The only point to flash a custom ROM is to improve on the crappy stock. The moto x is almost perfect. Unless the developer really puts a lot of thought into a ROM for us I'd be willing to bet we'd FUBAR something up when it comes to features. I'd just like a little bit more customization options. Other than that, this phone is as solid as they come.
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I agree but I do like to customize quite a bit and I hope more customization options come to us. I'd also like a cm rom, an aokp, a paranoid, and a pac man. I'd be quite happy if I saw those represented here!
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pathtologos said:
I agree but I do like to customize quite a bit and I hope more customization options come to us. I'd also like a cm rom, an aokp, a paranoid, and a pac man. I'd be quite happy if I saw those represented here!
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Well then. I'm with ya there. While we're putting in requests, I want a way to downgrade from the latest upgrade, an unlocked BL, and a money tree. I only see the last one happening with how well Moto locks their stuff down.
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I think this might be the first phone where I don't think I need root or an unlocked bootloader. Now whether or not I want those options is another story.
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luniz7 said:
I think this might be the first phone where I don't think I need root or an unlocked bootloader. Now whether or not I want those options is another story.
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I'm with you, with this phone I can easily see myself staying stock without complaint. Even though there is a root solution, I still passed because the phone worked so well as is.
But I would love to see what developers could do with this phone, but lack of development is not a deal breaker... Can't say that for any other phone I have owned to date. Every other phone, I have rooted and ceaselessly flashed Roms trying to find the "perfect" setup. With the moto x, I powered it on and have been happy ever since. I'm even using the stock keyboard and messenger app... Don't think I've used those since my first android device.
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I can't handle being on a stock AOSP ROM coming from a Neuxs. I hoping we see a Slim Bean type of ROM for the X with all the Moto features included in it. *fingers crossed*
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anotherfiz said:
I'm not sure its due to the "specs", given that they are pretty cutting edge.
I think its more that the time is not worth the RoI
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"Cutting edge"? It has a dualcore processor and a 720p screen. It really isn't cutting edge at all.
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I can't handle being on a stock AOSP ROM coming from a Neuxs. I hoping we see a Slim Bean type of ROM for the X with all the Moto features included in it. *fingers crossed*
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That won't happen because slim is built off of AOSP and the Motorola features are not in AOSP.
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"Cutting edge"? It has a dualcore processor and a 720p screen. It really isn't cutting edge at all.
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Actually, the number of cores and resolution mean nothing in terms of "cutting edge". You can throw spec sheets all you want, but real world 720p vs 1080p is a **** measuring contest. we're talking about a 5 inch device here, pixel density to the naked eye for the average person maxes out at like 280ppi, you cant see individual pixels in the moto x, just like you couldnt see them in the galaxy nexus or the s3/s4. That being said, the moto X has a full RBG pixel sublayout, which is lacking in nearly every other display on the market - Furthermore, it uses significantly less power than other displays on the market. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyol...ive-than-the-new-iphone-researchers-think-so/)
as for the processor. I'm going to give you an analogy to the PC market. AMD produces high core CPU's (6 and 8) which are far less innovative or cutting edge than intels quad core CPU's. Poopx8 is still poop. The dual core chips in the moto X are Krait 300 chips paired with an Adreno 320. This is the same snapdragon 600 that you find in the nexus 7 2013 and the s4/HTC one. In graphics benchmarks, the moto X wins even on 1080p (offscreen) tests, and side by side tests show the moto x preforming faster in apps than both the s4 and the htc one. So regardless of the paper specs, it is on par with those phones, which is who it is targeted against at I might add. (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Moto-X-review.003.png)
Then you add in the Sensor chip and the NLP chip, and stacked battery and you have a device that outperforms all of its peers, gets better battery life, and offers more always on features than all of its peers. You don't think that is cutting edge because it is a "dual core"? Marketing has gotten to your brain =x
EDIT - To be clear, I know the snapdragon 800 is the new bad boy on the block, but I argue that a change in the way people use their phone in a positive manner is more innovative than a linear bump in specs. Besides, the X came out before them and is a platform launch device.

anotherfiz said:
Actually, the number of cores and resolution mean nothing in terms of "cutting edge". You can throw spec sheets all you want, but real world 720p vs 1080p is a **** measuring contest. we're talking about a 5 inch device here, pixel density to the naked eye for the average person maxes out at like 280ppi, you cant see individual pixels in the moto x, just like you couldnt see them in the galaxy nexus or the s3/s4. That being said, the moto X has a full RBG pixel sublayout, which is lacking in nearly every other display on the market - Furthermore, it uses significantly less power than other displays on the market. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyol...ive-than-the-new-iphone-researchers-think-so/)
as for the processor. I'm going to give you an analogy to the PC market. AMD produces high core CPU's (6 and 8) which are far less innovative or cutting edge than intels quad core CPU's. Poopx8 is still poop. The dual core chips in the moto X are Krait 300 chips paired with an Adreno 320. This is the same snapdragon 600 that you find in the nexus 7 2013 and the s4/HTC one. In graphics benchmarks, the moto X wins even on 1080p (offscreen) tests, and side by side tests show the moto x preforming faster in apps than both the s4 and the htc one. So regardless of the paper specs, it is on par with those phones, which is who it is targeted against at I might add. (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Moto-X-review.003.png)
Then you add in the Sensor chip and the NLP chip, and stacked battery and you have a device that outperforms all of its peers, gets better battery life, and offers more always on features than all of its peers. You don't think that is cutting edge because it is a "dual core"? Marketing has gotten to your brain =x
EDIT - To be clear, I know the snapdragon 800 is the new bad boy on the block, but I argue that a change in the way people use their phone in a positive manner is more innovative than a linear bump in specs. Besides, the X came out before them and is a platform launch device.
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Seriously! Cutting edge isn't always about numbers and theoretical performance. We live in a day where we have reached a soft cap in how raw "power" can be utilized...
Innovation and advance isn't about making something load an app 3 milliseconds faster, but rather, change how we interact with that technology on a daily basis... This phone has met the new demand for innovation, it has clearly changed the landscape of user/device interaction... Not to mention, that it is as fast and has the battery life of any of the "power house" phones on the market...
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would you of paid more for better camera and battery ?

just ordered my first nexus phone. iPhone sold on amazon so there is no turning back for me. did not like the g2 being expensive and big. this phone is slightly smaller so i think ill like it more especially without that power button on the back lmao. but one think that won't let me sleep tonight is the low battery and the crappy camera shots taken and posted online already.
if they charged you 100$ more would you of liked to see a 12mp camera like on the xperia z1 and the g2's battery ? or is it fine the way it is at the moment because of the low price ?
besides this phone the only other catching my attention is the Z1s, which is a 4.3 screen so its perfect between the iPhone and a bigger phone like this but most importantly its waterproof and i work in the pool industry as well as having expandable memory via micro sd .... if i don't like the nexus 5 whats the return process like in the google play store and does anyone know any other alternatives besides the Z1s form sony xperia ?

Yes I would have been willing to pay maybe $450 for 3000mah battery. The camera shots I've seen so far seem to be pretty adequate/much improved over N4
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I agree, I'd pay more if it had a bigger battery but not 50 dollars more, maybe 30 but 50 is pushing it a bit for me just for a battery upgrade. As for the camera, as long as they improved it over the N4 I'll be happy.

The Nexus 4 battery has not been a problem for me, so maybe not.

More mehapixels does not mean better pictures, just putting that out there. That being said I wouldn't mind an extra millimeter to depth for a bigger battery, and maybe a little higher price.
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I'll wait to judge the battery when I receive the phone. Camera seems adequate to me. I would pay for a micro sim slot though. 50 bucks for a micro slim? No problem.

randpost said:
I'll wait to judge the battery when I receive the phone. Camera seems adequate to me. I would pay for a micro sim slot though. 50 bucks for a micro slim? No problem.
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It already has a micro sim, but id pay extra for a Micro SD slot

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It already has a micro sim, but id pay extra for a Micro SD slot
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LOL, that's what I was thinking of!

Yes. I'm willing to pay like $549 or even $599 if you give me a true flagship.
But knowing the N5's price, I'd say at $599 I'd better be getting 64gb of storage too, maybe a 2MP front camera would be nice too at that point. 1080p right?

Sure, I'd pay more for that. Main attraction of the Nexus range is the developer support, openness, fast updates, pure android, not the price.

Nexus will never be the best of the best. If it was top of the line in every spec, why would you go for any other phone? The nexus would kill all android competition because it would guarantee fast updates along with the best specs. For the sake of android and not screwing other manufacturers, it keeps the competition going but gives a nice price and fast software updates to make up for what it lacks.
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You don't need a better battery, did you see the battery improvements Google made yesterday? All audio processing goes go the dsp to save battery, 4G radios are much more efficient than the G2 or note 3. Things like wifi and 4G are more often in a low powered state. So I reckon battery life should be a beast.
And the camera is perfectly adequate with true HDR
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corythug said:
More mehapixels does not mean better pictures, just putting that out there. That being said I wouldn't mind an extra millimeter to depth for a bigger battery, and maybe a little higher price.
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And a larger sensor on xperia Z1 mean better picture . And it is better .

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You don't need a better battery, did you see the battery improvements Google made yesterday? All audio processing goes go the dsp to save battery, 4G radios are much more efficient than the G2 or note 3. Things like wifi and 4G are more often in a low powered state. So I reckon battery life should be a beast.
And the camera is perfectly adequate with true HDR
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Where can i read that information ? Source please
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Yes I want to know the same thing.. Please provide the source of your information.. Thanks
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I was willing to pay 450 euros for a 32 gb+ 3000 mah version :crying: not more than that, hey the LG G2 costs 466 euros (the 16 gb version) so it shouldnt be more expensive than that ... I traded a 3000 mah battery (MAJOR thing for me) and a good camera for stock android (most important thing to me) a matte finish, buttons on the sides, hopeit's worth it google

I'd pay more if they offer me :
1. 3000+ mah battery
2. dual stereo front facing speaker like htc one series
3. micro sd slot
4. maybe slightly more screen size, about 5.3 inch perhaps?
if only nexus 5 have those 4, that will be the most perfect phone this year.

I'd definitely pay more for battery and storage options. I did the math and the manufacturing cost difference between G2 and N5 can't be more than 5 euro!
So yes I'd pay 100 euro on top of 32GB version for a 64 gb version with a bigger battery.
If kitkat will be better in power management, the improvement will apply to a 3,000mAh battery as well!!
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For me it's just fine.
I only don't mind to pay until 50€ more so that I could buy it directly from Play Store with no need to use tricks like proxys and forward services.

The General sections on XDA are for tips/tricks/guides/howtos/news or some sort of actual content relevant to the Nexus 5 . Hypothetical situations, opinions, etc don't really belong here.
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Is it worth buying?

I want to buy this phone, but is actually expensive, so my question is it worth buying?Or should i wait for Htc Two?Do you have any regrets?

the only regret i have is that the LTE bands on the 901s aren't the EMEA bands (something the seller did claim, grrr), so i can't get a LTE connection, my provider uses the 800 band, but the 901s supports the 900Mhz band (and 1800 / 2100 / 2600)
600$ seems like a lot, but it's a premium phone, a galaxy s4 costs the same (here in the netherlands anyway)
what i love about the BS:
-GREAT battery life
-fast, the snapdragon 600 handles everything i throw at it
-front dual speakers, something all phone should have
-5" full hd screen
-fits very nicely in my hands, unlike the xperia z1
-looks good (i have the red version)
-rare
i never met anyone with a Butterfly S, i somehow like having something others don't
after owning the One X, which had HORRIBLE battery life, i switched to the Motorola Razr MAXX, finally a phone that could handle an entire day and still have some juice left at the end of the day
but it was lacking in power/responsiveness and i wanted a slightly bigger screen (i really wanted a 5.2" screen), with criteria like a 5" screen, great battery life AND a fast processor (and 2gb ram) the BS was the only option (at that time, the z1 was released months after i bought mine, but i just don't like the way it feels in the hand)
what i don't like?
errrr, not much
let's put it this way: for my next phone i'd like a version of the BS with
-5.2" screen (full hd or higher, but full hd is ok)
-metal housing (the BS squeaks a bit)
-better camera with optical stabilization
edit: and i want EMEA LTE bands of course
i think i should be comfortable for 2014 with this phone, so my answer is yes

Ok thanks a lot for your answer.I will make the decision to buy this phone.

Just buy it!
vladutz2007 said:
I want to buy this phone, but is actually expensive, so my question is it worth buying?Or should i wait for Htc Two?Do you have any regrets?
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One month ago I was in your situation! and I did it I bought it ...One of my smartest choice ever! Battery life 3 days, good sound, superb screen good built materials and yeah I have to agree with previous comment..pretty rare just like gold

The One that could have really saved HTC
That's how I would describe this phone.
Let's see how M8 will improve over Butterfly S. Otherwise, it will be like the One Max, which did nothing for me.

in addition, i would even dare say: there's no other phone available right now that i would choose over the BS
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Hell Yeah
Definitely man! It's worth almost every penny I payed for it. I said almost every because of no Optical Image Stabilization, but hey I still think the camera is decent, even better imho plastic housing is better than metal maybe it's because of my skin metal slips out of my hand and I was really close to damaging my sister's One once So, yeah I'd recommend you buy it The only thing I miss is Cyanogenmod

I just bought it. I had the Htc One for one week and sold it, and now i choosed Butterfly S for bigger display, battery, better cpu freqvuency.I like it and recomand it.:good:

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I just bought it. I had the Htc One for one week and sold it, and now i choosed Butterfly S for bigger display, battery, better cpu freqvuency.I like it and recomand it.:good:
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Great! What color did u get
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The Red One

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The Red One
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I have the red too it's so beautiful and slippery
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X8 chip upgrade?

Do you think motorola will upgrade the present X8 chip with 2 krait 300 cores to a new X8 chip with krait 400 cores? Snapdragon 800 already has a low power always listening core in it right? wonder whats in store for summer

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Do you think motorola will upgrade the present X8 chip with 2 krait 300 cores to a new X8 chip with krait 400 cores? Snapdragon 800 already has a low power always listening core in it right? wonder whats in store for summer
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Who knows, but we should definitely see the core upgrade.
Moto X successor is still slated for late summer release. So it could be as late as August. By that time we will have Snapdragon 610 and 615 in market and those make perfect sense for new Moto X. Still not the high end for that time, but plenty of oomph while consuming less power and significant upgrade over current MSM8960DT.

Haven't heard of the 610 and 615. Thanks

The new Moto X should improve very nicely over the current.

I'm curious to see what new clever way Motorola will use the new tech.
I'm always for 'smarter' technology over more 'powerful' technology

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I'm curious to see what new clever way Motorola will use the new tech.
I'm always for 'smarter' technology over more 'powerful' technology
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I remember Dennis Woodside saying the next generation Touchless control wont require you to speak the command phrase first.

Current phrase is too long. With the android wear, we will be saying "OK Google" all the time. Then to say "OK Google now" for phone will be little odd. They can simply go for "Moto" or " Hey Moto". No phrase is not ideal. You don't want your phone to trigger touches control all the time.
From my Moto X, in your face!

If they keep with the theme of last year the x8 will be quietly upgraded and they will add new one useful features. Maybe slightly faster but still dual core. I would love for some upgrades on the rest of the phone. 1080p but still 4.7" display, better camera, wireless charging, more customizations?
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Better yet, a personalized command of your choice

For android wear you don't always have to say okay google now. In the video the guy in the train simply says "Reply" which is cool. I'd love to see that translated to the X. I wish Motorola has an X series which would keep the 4.7 size and some other series for other sizes all while maintaining the same specs in all series except the G.

The problem with a 1080p screen is eats more battery without much if any real increase in picture screen is to small.

T-Keith said:
If they keep with the theme of last year the x8 will be quietly upgraded and they will add new one useful features. Maybe slightly faster but still dual core. I would love for some upgrades on the rest of the phone. 1080p but still 4.7" display, better camera, wireless charging, more customizations?
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The problem with a 1080p screen is eats more battery without much if any real increase in picture screen is to small.
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while 1080p does eat some battery up, there have now been advancements made in the newer 801 chipsets in regards to battery life. it would be great if MotoX 2 could get a dualcore variant of that, while also beefing the battery up to maybe 2600maH while retaining the same 4.7" screen. i'd also like to see a better camera for low light shots. if these were the upgrades, while also adding more useful features to the phone, i'd be sold day1.
i feel fairly confident that the screen size of the device will stay small. to most, that's one of the selling points of the MotoX.

I would also like an improved battery. Maybe next phone for me will be back to the Maxx. My fiancee is using my old RAZR maxx and I miss the crazy battery life she gets. The new maxx was just priced out of my reach so hopefully moto x 2 can bridge nicely.
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I am not really interested in tegra stuff but the 64bit dual core Denver might be a beast. I really hope more OEM's pull their heads out of their asses and go back to beefier dual cores rather than forcing quad on us. Heck, there's very few games that take full advantage of quad and I bet it's mostly tegea optimized games. Other benefits of going back to dual core besides pure power draw of cores themselves are using the spacing for bigger channels, faster ram, more ultra low voltage co processors, or dsp's/multi dsp's which ios and android still aren't taking full advantage of. What would be really awesome is if motorola comes out with something to compete with note3. Large screen with stylus, swappable battery, 64bit dual core, Kepler k1 or adreno 420, micro SD, heck two micro SD slots while I am dreaming, wireless charging, software nav buttons and Moto's legendary reception.
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I don't care what processors they use, like the Nexus devices need to do, put a BIGGER battery.
but I'm willing to bet some kind of S800 dual core variant.

I'm guessing it'll be a 5 inch FHD screen, quad core, and improved camera. The Moto X was crucified for its mid-range specs, despite calling itself a flagship phone, thus it won't be able to withstand another such release.
While many of the thoughts in this thread are correct, you have to keep in mind that the general consumer is a slave to the specs marketing game and that Motorola is struggling just to survive.

I'm not sure if I agree with that. The average techy may be obsessed with specs, but the average consumer probably buys based on price and marketing. They want a phone from a name they trust and something they can relate to. Samsung has this down. Motorola did step up their marketing, but they missed the mark. They should have played up their history.
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T-Keith said:
I'm not sure if I agree with that. The average techy may be obsessed with specs, but the average consumer probably buys based on price and marketing. They want a phone from a name they trust and something they can relate to. Samsung has this down. Motorola did step up their marketing, but they missed the mark. They should have played up their history.
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In the world of android, you need specs and/ price on your site to effectively market the phone.
If your phone is proceed like a high end phone, it better have high end specifications. Otherwise no matter how cool the phone is, how well it performs, it is difficult to market it.
See how many dumb @$$ reviews are there on popular shopping portals complaining about dual core CPU of Moto X.
Moto G is on the other hand received overwhelmingly positive reviews on same sites due to it's price and praises for its quad core CPU.
Hell there are multiple people complaining about moto x not being value for money when compared to "Quad core" Moto G..
Lot of techies who understood the potential of Moto X got it. Not masses.
When it comes to android, sadly average consumer does care about the specs.
Bit that mentality does mean that moto x owners have rather exclusive phone
From my Moto X, in your face!

I don't know. Most non-techy people I talk to never mention specs. They just want a "deal" on the newest Samsung phones. Because they don't want an apple phone and Samsung has marketed themselves as the anti-iphone. Just like the original Droid which had much success.
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Funkym0nkey said:
In the world of android, you need specs and/ price on your site to effectively market the phone.
If your phone is proceed like a high end phone, it better have high end specifications. Otherwise no matter how cool the phone is, how well it performs, it is difficult to market it.
See how many dumb @$$ reviews are there on popular shopping portals complaining about dual core CPU of Moto X.
Moto G is on the other hand received overwhelmingly positive reviews on same sites due to it's price and praises for its quad core CPU.
Hell there are multiple people complaining about moto x not being value for money when compared to "Quad core" Moto G..
Lot of techies who understood the potential of Moto X got it. Not masses.
When it comes to android, sadly average consumer does care about the specs.
Bit that mentality does mean that moto x owners have rather exclusive phone
From my Moto X, in your face!
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I love the X as I do my favorite shaving razor the Bic Metal. These are still available in Europe & on Amazon. They lossed market share for the same reason-humble appearance.

Trade question

Currtenly using the moto x pure. A friend offered to trade me his nexus 6. Would that be a righteous trade or should I just keep moto x pure? Both are 32gb model.
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cracjackson said:
Currtenly using the moto x pure. A friend offered to trade me his nexus 6. Would that be a righteous trade or should I just keep moto x pure? Both are 32gb model.
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The resolution of the N6 screen is 2560x1440 pixels and consumes battery power.
Unfortunately the higher resolution is not used.
Unless the price is very low, keep your Moto

NLBeev said:
The resolution of the N6 screen is 2560x1440 pixels and consumes battery power.
Unfortunately the higher resolution is not used.
Unless the price is very low, keep your Moto
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There would be no cash difference just a straight trade phone for phone
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I'd honestly trade. The Nexus 6 CPU is more powerful. Add dual front facing speaker's. 100% stock Android. Me personally I'd jump on it.

miketucky350 said:
I'd honestly trade. The Nexus 6 CPU is more powerful. Add dual front facing speaker's. 100% stock Android. Me personally I'd jump on it.
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Yea that's what thinking also even though its a year older its still a beast of a phone. Plus I can get 7.0 a lot sooner then I would with the moto x
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Definitely. It's a beast, runs 7.0 like a champ. My Nexus 6 is 1.5 years old and still has no problems getting 2 days on battery.

cracjackson said:
There would be no cash difference just a straight trade phone for phone ..,,
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I understand. The only reason I would change my N6 to a Moto x is portability.
The N6 is a great phone but it's rather large and the back is not flat.
An advantage for you could be that the N6 is planned to get Android 7.
I don't know if the Moto X will be updated.
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My Nexus 6 is 1.5 years old and still has no problems getting 2 days on battery.
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My N6 is 21 months old.
Out of the box the battery wasn't that powerful.
Battery life less than 1 day. Cause: amoled display.
For a better battery life I had to make changes:
1. root access to allow RRO-layers with dark themes.
2. Alternative apps with dark theme (f.i. no Gmail but Aquamail)
3. A custom kernel (Franco's kernel)
4. Debloating/delete not used apps.

cracjackson said:
Currtenly using the moto x pure. A friend offered to trade me his nexus 6. Would that be a righteous trade or should I just keep moto x pure? Both are 32gb model.
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As someone who has both devices in house (roommate has the Moto X Pure), it was a tough decision. However, I went with the N6, because of the screen @NLBeev loves so much as well as the camera. For you, the question may not be the LCD, so what is most important to you?
Processor? 32-bit quad-core 805 vs 64-bit hexa-core 808.
Camera? 13MP with OIS vs 21MP w/out it. (For me, the OIS was more important than sheer megapixels.)
Screen? 5.96" AMOLED vs 5.7" TFT LCD. Both have the same resolution of 2560x1440, which means NLBeev won't like either of them.
Expandable storage? Moto X Pure has it. Nexus 6 does not.

Have all the current updates at timely matter. ROM options battery life performance. The moto x battery isn't that great and I'm dirty unicorn ROM.
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cracjackson said:
Have all the current updates at timely matter. ROM options battery life performance. The moto x battery isn't that great and I'm dirty unicorn ROM.
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Then you already know what you should do. Trade for the Nexus, as the timely updates is one area Motorola fails at. The Pure hasn't even been upgraded to 6.0.1 from 6.0. Just keep in mind that cloud storage is your friend with a 32GB Nexus.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
As someone who has both devices in house (roommate has the Moto X Pure), it was a tough decision. However, I went with the N6, because of the screen @NLBeev loves so much as well as the camera. For you, the question may not be the LCD, so what is most important to you?
Processor? 32-bit quad-core 805 vs 64-bit hexa-core 808.
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The 805 is actually a better chip than the 808, despite the model number being the wrong way.
The 805 has 4 VERY STRONG (and cool running) 32bit cores.
The 808 has 2 "OK" 64bit cores + 4 "REALLY CHITTY" 64bit cores. All VERY HOT running. They do NOT all add up to 4 strong 32bit cores.
"butbutbut SIXTYFOUR BITZ!!!". And what, precisely, do you use a phone for that benefits from 64bit CPU? Are you software transcoding videos? Nope. That's all done in dedicated hardware blocks.
Camera? 13MP with OIS vs 21MP w/out it. (For me, the OIS was more important than sheer megapixels.)
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Sheer megapixels is meaningless once you pass the point where they're bleeding into each other (which we are WAY beyond).
Screen? 5.96" AMOLED vs 5.7" TFT LCD. Both have the same resolution of 2560x1440, which means NLBeev won't like either of them.
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The AMOLED will use a lot less power,
The TFT will **LOOK BETTER**, since it uses backlight+filter and doesn't LIE about its resolution (The Nexus 6 is really only 2560x720).
Expandable storage? Moto X Pure has it. Nexus 6 does not.
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
However, I went with the N6, because of the screen @NLBeev loves so much as well as the camera. . Both have the same resolution of 2560x1440, which means NLBeev won't like either of them. ....
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Message received ?
I admit.....displaying pictures is great ?

@doitright: And you felt it necessary to dissect my post because? *shakes my head*
1. Have you ever heard of these things called "examples"? They're really refreshing things as they serve to illustrate concepts that the average person might misunderstand. The questions are all examples pointing back to the most important question: what is most important to you? As noted in reply to the OP, not everyone is going to focus on the display or the camera. The OP got it, because in his response he didn't touch on anything physical whatsoever. He instead focused on the biggest benefit of the Nexus/Pixel line: timely updates.
2. Seriously, you are preaching to the wrong person. The OP would benefit from the additional information you provided, however you chose to quote me, meaning you addressed me. Address him, because I have the device I want.

Okay so I did the trade got the phone plus $50 and a case lol not a bad deal I'd say. And it's running 7.0
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I appreciate y'all input on the matter thanks a lot guys.
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cracjackson said:
Okay so I did the trade got the phone plus $50 and a case lol not a bad deal I'd say. And it's running 7.0
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@doitright: And you felt it necessary to dissect my post because? *shakes my head*
1. Have you ever heard of these things called "examples"? They're really refreshing things as they serve to illustrate concepts that the average person might misunderstand. The questions are all examples pointing back to the most important question: what is most important to you? As noted in reply to the OP, not everyone is going to focus on the display or the camera. The OP got it, because in his response he didn't touch on anything physical whatsoever. He instead focused on the biggest benefit of the Nexus/Pixel line: timely updates.
2. Seriously, you are preaching to the wrong person. The OP would benefit from the additional information you provided, however you chose to quote me, meaning you addressed me. Address him, because I have the device I want.
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1) Examples are worthless if they are incorrect.
2) This isn't your thread, read the name on the first post and you will know who this thread is for.