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Best Screen Protector for HD2: Vikuiti (TM) DQC-160

Okay, I am going to be super honest here.
I've tried several screen protector for my HD2 since I gotten it. Possibly 7 total different ones now. Bought from ebay, HTC official, etc. They are all crap!
Today has been the day that I am settling for the best screen protector I've found - and would HIGHLY (with 100%) recommend this screen protector to anyone in a heart beat.
The Vikuiti (TM) DQC-160
http://www.protectionfilms24.com/article/vikuiti-dqc-160-screen-protector-htc-hd2-28087.html
I am from the US, I bought the protector on Sunday and I received them in the mail today, Thursday. Super fast shipping overseas!
1) Very easy to apply. Easy clean up!
2) No need to apply after a hot steamy bath. It really resists dusts during application.
3) Highly cut to precision! I love this! It also cover the entire glass in front! Even the bottom glass under the buttons!
4) The feel of it is just amazing! It feels like its not even there! I feels like I am touching glass! No friction whatsoever. *Note that I am not exaggerating here.
5) Very transparent. I can not tell its even on. And my Front sensors are not affected by this protector in any way.
I am posting pictures. See below. Ask questions away.
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thank you for sharing this information.
Maybe you could briefly outline what the advantages of a screen protector for a hd2 are. I'm not too familiar with the device yet, but i thought the display is glass. I saw videos where people tried to scratch the surface with keys and knifes but didn't succeed.
Thank you!

I'll help... just google for capacitive screen and notice, that top coat is not glass. it can be scratched, just not as easy as resistive one.

Martin Fields... awesome...

wow it looks good...
it even has that part that protects the part under the buttons unlike mine...
nice keyboard.

I should be receiving mine today!
I originally ordered some cheaper ones, which are awful! It's like you have to apply them in an air tight room, and the edges never stay stuck.
I heard good things about the mentioned protector so I ordered one.
Thanks for posting the photos and positive review!

Ordered mine as well.
Hope no dust or loose edges this time.
Thanks for the tip.

Definitely will order this, thanks

Installing ?
Hi,
I'm having some trouble installing - any hints ?
I agree though - The Vikuiti (TM) DQC-160 is by far the best screenprotecor.
Mvh Morten

Fit on flush screen?
lemonspeakers- Just wanted to know how the DQC-160 fits on the flush screen of the HD2? I was a little concerned that the 160 was a "ridgid" type of SP and thus a little thicker. I just installed a protectionfilms24 SP on my Canon A590 and was worried it may be to high for the HD2 flush screen. I will be getting my HD2 from TMobile US March 24th. Thanks

Greaaaaaaaat, thank you very much for sharing! I have been looking for a good protector for very long, but there are so much different opinions about it, but this sounds really great!
Although I have one question, it covers the " sensor " next to the " speaker " of the phone (you know when you talk with somebody and I mean the speaker of which you hear the person talking to you), and I have read somewhere on this forum, it shouldn't do that!
Could anybody confirm/disconfirm this?

Filipek88 said:
Greaaaaaaaat, thank you very much for sharing! I have been looking for a good protector for very long, but there are so much different opinions about it, but this sounds really great!
Although I have one question, it covers the " sensor " next to the " speaker " of the phone (you know when you talk with somebody and I mean the speaker of which you hear the person talking to you), and I have read somewhere on this forum, it shouldn't do that!
Could anybody confirm/disconfirm this?
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Read my first post. This SP is highly transparent but smooth as glass. It won't interfere with the proximity and lighting sensors. Already tested under different conditions. It works as if it was never there.
I also forgot to mention, the SP is a little thick. That just goes to show that this is not some cheap material they are using- mind you.
rawhide85 said:
lemonspeakers- Just wanted to know how the DQC-160 fits on the flush screen of the HD2? I was a little concerned that the 160 was a "ridgid" type of SP and thus a little thicker. I just installed a protectionfilms24 SP on my Canon A590 and was worried it may be to high for the HD2 flush screen. I will be getting my HD2 from TMobile US March 24th. Thanks
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Again, read first post. This was highly cut to precision. The only hard part I had was getting the bottom and sides to line up perfectly (I am a bit anal) because its highly precised cut. *You don't want your screen protector running off the side of your device now do you?

i just ordered mine not too long ago, for the North Americans like me its around $12.00 USD.
so as of now im just patiently waiting for the screen protector to come in. i will try to post up a video on youtube regarding said protector, most likely it will be posted in this thread after i made the video. till then.. Adios!!

Got mine today. Soooo much better than the cheap ones you buy on eBay
I have a doubt: can you take it off, wash it an put it back on again, or is it a one time application?
Thanks

I have the opportunity to get this for "free."
How is it WRT:
1. Fingerprints and skin oil smudges
2. Sunlight and glare

If it came with a rear camera protector as well, like my Martin Fields kit for the n95, I would buy it.
For now, I'll stick with the screen protector that came with my maximum protection invisible shield.

freshabp said:
If it came with a rear camera protector as well, like my Martin Fields kit for the n95, I would buy it.
For now, I'll stick with the screen protector that came with my maximum protection invisible shield.
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Ugh. I got that Inv. Shield and it totally ruin the glass feel. and that invi. shield. is full of friction that it no longer is a touch device. UGH! I got over it!

friend'scatdied said:
I have the opportunity to get this for "free."
How is it WRT:
1. Fingerprints and skin oil smudges
2. Sunlight and glare
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I agree, it can give you lots and lots of fingerprint oil. much more than the glass alone.
Are there any FULLLLLL screen protector that solves this issue?

fockewul said:
Got mine today. Soooo much better than the cheap ones you buy on eBay
I have a doubt: can you take it off, wash it an put it back on again, or is it a one time application?
Thanks
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Yes you can reapply. I've done it and it works. Just make sure to air dry it b4 you put it back on.

I would h ave to agree with you. I got the invisible shield thinking it was the best possible product and in ways it is great. It does not seem as if the edges will start to come up and I think it provides preimum protection but it does ruin the feel of the device plus I had a terrible time applying it since it was my first time using this product on a device. Once it tried I have some horrible streaks underneath and I am afraid to pull it up and try again. So I might give this one a shot.

[Q] Screen unresponsive (hardware problem)

Hey guys,
My phone is Xperia V as many of you might know.. It fell out of my pocket last night.
The upper screen above the Sony logo got a little crack, but that's not the thing i'm worried about..
The bottom of the screen became unresponsive :/
Bad luck i guess. The screen displays perfect, it is just unresponsive to touch inputs.
Also, i'm out of warranty. Not only cause my bootloader is unlocked, the warranty period ended 4 months ago.
(relocked bootloader and reverted to stock, still nothing)
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I honestly don't think there's an easy solution myself, but just thought of creating a thread anyway who knows..
What to do?

3 months ago, my xv fell out of my pocket too and upper screen above the Sony logo got cracked and my screens upper part became unresponsive I took it to repair center,and the found out that the touch input was broked. Because xv uses sensor on lens, I had to replace both screen & touch input together. It cost me about 100 dollars.

Aria.A97 said:
3 months ago, my xv fell out of my pocket too and upper screen above the Sony logo got cracked and my screens upper part became unresponsive I took it to repair center,and the found out that the touch input was broked. Because xv uses sensor on lens, I had to replace both screen & touch input together. It cost me about 100 dollars.
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Looks like i have a similar problem then I'm taking it to the service center asap, let's see what they'll say.
Were you under warranty when yours stopped working?
And thanks for the response mate

NuriJ said:
Looks like i have a similar problem then I'm taking it to the service center asap, let's see what they'll say.
Were you under warranty when yours stopped working?
And thanks for the response mate
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Yep, cracked mine a while ago, and it renders whole touch screen useless unlike some other phones. Managed to replace it myself, fiddley but do-able if you have some experience in taking phones apart.

really seems to be a hardware problem....maybe the colonel can give a little hint on how to repair it.
i think this is the part u need http://www.amazon.de/OnceAll-Digitizer-Screen-Display-XPERIA/dp/B00FHIO6C8

could u plz make us a 4.3 custom kernel if we help u resolve the issue?

MiG123 said:
could u plz make us a 4.3 custom kernel if we help u resolve the issue?
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C'mon!!! this guy already made an awesome kernel for 4.1 without asking anything!
It's not fair to ask something from him before helping. Help him for God's sake if u can!
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NuriJ said:
Looks like i have a similar problem then I'm taking it to the service center asap, let's see what they'll say.
Were you under warranty when yours stopped working?
And thanks for the response mate
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U can operate your phone with mouse over OTG cable. Using a mouse, go to developer options and enable show touches. I saw some touch points upper of my screen around the cracked area. Btw, I was not under warranty.

Thanks for the help y all, i am taking it to the service center today, let's see what they have to say. In case repairing is too expensive, i will do it manually.
doenen said:
really seems to be a hardware problem....maybe the colonel can give a little hint on how to repair it.
i think this is the part u need http://www.amazon.de/OnceAll-Digitizer-Screen-Display-XPERIA/dp/B00FHIO6C8
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Yeah, this is what i need.. but do i need to choose a specific one? I don't know much about screens, but do i take the risk of getting a cheap TMD panel? Or does LCD screens have nothing to do panels? @colonel_lp

NuriJ said:
Thanks for the help y all, i am taking it to the service center today, let's see what they have to say. In case repairing is too expensive, i will do it manually.
Yeah, this is what i need.. but do i need to choose a specific one? I don't know much about screens, but do i take the risk of getting a cheap TMD panel? Or does LCD screens have nothing to do panels? @colonel_lp
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The digitizer and LCD are one, so yes you do take the risk of getting a cheap panel. There are many on ebay, i looked for one that had a similar code on the back to mine, which was a Sharp panel. I don't remember the code now...
The phone comes apart really easily, apart from the hardest part of getting the old screen off, (a real PITA). I used a hairdryer and much patience and shattering of glass (wear safety goggles). Clean it up really well, and you will also need to get some 3M double sided adhesive tape to stick the new one back on(really really thin strips). I would suggest assembling the phone and trying to see if the screen works before sticking it in place..
Let me know if you need any more advice.

colonel_lp said:
The digitizer and LCD are one, so yes you do take the risk of getting a cheap panel. There are many on ebay, i looked for one that had a similar code on the back to mine, which was a Sharp panel. I don't remember the code now...
The phone comes apart really easily, apart from the hardest part of getting the old screen off, (a real PITA). I used a hairdryer and much patience and shattering of glass (wear safety goggles). Clean it up really well, and you will also need to get some 3M double sided adhesive tape to stick the new one back on(really really thin strips). I would suggest assembling the phone and trying to see if the screen works before sticking it in place..
Let me know if you need any more advice.
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The phone came apart easily as you said. I did need to buy the torx t5 screwdriver though, that was not a problem.
I'm at this point now, i guess it safe to.. try to get the old screen off? Any more advice before i start?
Just want to be sure i do everything right

NuriJ said:
The phone came apart easily as you said. I did need to buy the torx t5 screwdriver though, that was not a problem.
I'm at this point now, i guess it safe to.. try to get the old screen off? Any more advice before i start?
Just want to be sure i do everything right
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Just take it really slowly and lots of repeated heat with a hairdryer, and something really thin to pry it off that wont damage the plastic parts.
Good Luck.

colonel_lp said:
Just take it really slowly and lots of repeated heat with a hairdryer, and something really thin to pry it off that wont damage the plastic parts.
Good Luck.
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I got it off at last.. the screen is now completely unusable though.
I've looked for the adhesive tape and found two. When you say "really thin strips" do you mean 1mm or 3mm?

NuriJ said:
I got it off at last.. the screen is now completely unusable though.
I've looked for the adhesive tape and found two. When you say "really thin strips" do you mean 1mm or 3mm?
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It depends on which part, you need different for different places. you can see what fits. I think i bought a sheet and cut pieces from it with a very sharp knife and put them in place. But strips will work also.

@NuriJ
Have you solve this? My dropped today and my upper part of screen became irresponsible.
Did you buy the new LCD and digitizer or only the digitizer? I thought, that in this phone it is only one part, but I saw some offers on ebay where were only digitizers.
Can you please tell where did you bought it?
Thanks

tulen_kobi said:
@NuriJ
Have you solve this? My dropped today and my upper part of screen became irresponsible.
Did you buy the new LCD and digitizer or only the digitizer? I thought, that in this phone it is only one part, but I saw some offers on ebay where were only digitizers.
Can you please tell where did you bought it?
Thanks
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First do this - Take the phone apart, then disconnect the digitizer (you don't need to take the screen off to do this).
The digitizer has a small connector on it - Disconnect that too. Now reconnect both. Then power on your phone.
screen works > good for you
screen still dead > bad luck
I would highly recommend getting the LCD and digitizer in one. HOWEVER getting the screen + front cover is much easier as you don't need to take the old screen off and stick the new one back on (not that easy). And + you would only need to move the hardware.
FYI; If you have the 'sharp' type of display now, i recommend getting the 'sony' display (much better colors and contrast).
Sony displays have a somewhat similar code to this on the back: Z181FF0013

NuriJ said:
First do this - Take the phone apart, then disconnect the digitizer (you don't need to take the screen off to do this).
The digitizer has a small connector on it - Disconnect that too. Now reconnect both. Then power on your phone.
screen works > good for you
screen still dead > bad luck
I would highly recommend getting the LCD and digitizer in one. HOWEVER getting the screen + front cover is much easier as you don't need to take the old screen off and stick the new one back on (not that easy). And + you would only need to move the hardware.
FYI; If you have the 'sharp' type of display now, i recommend getting the 'sony' display (much better colors and contrast).
Sony displays have a somewhat similar code to this on the back: Z181FF0013
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I have(had) the display from sony, this is why I was thinking about the digitizer only. So the display and the digitizer can split up? But I guess that I will need both parts because of the crack on the glass.
I can not find any offers where the code can be seen on the internet. But I will try to look closer.
Anyway, thanks for the tip with disconnecting and connecting the digitizer, I will definitely try it.
EDIT: Did you find any good disassembling guide?
EDIT2: Bad luck
This is the desired code? http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Sony-Xp...e_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2c7cc7b012

tulen_kobi said:
I have(had) the display from sony, this is why I was thinking about the digitizer only. So the display and the digitizer can split up? But I guess that I will need both parts because of the crack on the glass.
I can not find any offers where the code can be seen on the internet. But I will try to look closer.
Anyway, thanks for the tip with disconnecting and connecting the digitizer, I will definitely try it.
EDIT: Did you find any good disassembling guide?
EDIT2: Bad luck
This is the desired code? http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Sony-Xp...e_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2c7cc7b012
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Yes, that's it. The display and digitizer can be split up, but i don't think i would mess with that..
Keep in mind that some uses pictures from sharp panels even though it's sony. Better ask for the code to be sure.
And also someone from another thread said that the phone most likely would not be waterproof after replacing the screen. . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169802
There's most likely disassembling guides on youtube, have a look at them

****! Just dropped my new sony display, which I had been waiting for weeks
Opened the box, took it out of the plastic and after a few minutes - dropped it and the digitizer died.
I wonder how tf that happened. Totally unbelievable and i just bought the tape some days ago. Also i won't know if it broke during shipping or after i dropped it

NuriJ said:
****! Just dropped my new sony display, which I had been waiting for weeks
Opened the box, took it out of the plastic and after a few minutes - dropped it and the digitizer died.
I wonder how tf that happened. Totally unbelievable and i just bought the tape some days ago. Also i won't know if it broke during shipping or after i dropped it
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Got no warranty / return shipment for replacement?
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LCD Smashed

so a month ago i had a massive boo boo and actually managed to trap my phone in the car door, unfortunately this has smashed the front glass and the LCD, I've found many LCD replacements on eBay and several guides on YouTube, i feel confident enough to do it, however I'm just wondering, which LCD with digitizer do i go for, I've seen some saying they have retina i know this is resolution but would it be possible to get a higher quality LCD or will they all be the same quality, i don't want a cheap Chinese copy, i still want the phone to say "Sony" at this top as it would bug me without it,
and also finally, will my phone retain it's water resistance or would this be lost?
Thanks in advanced

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xX_o2_Xx said:
so a month ago i had a massive boo boo and actually managed to trap my phone in the car door, unfortunately this has smashed the front glass and the LCD, I've found many LCD replacements on eBay and several guides on YouTube, i feel confident enough to do it, however I'm just wondering, which LCD with digitizer do i go for, I've seen some saying they have retina i know this is resolution but would it be possible to get a higher quality LCD or will they all be the same quality, i don't want a cheap Chinese copy, i still want the phone to say "Sony" at this top as it would bug me without it,
and also finally, will my phone retain it's water resistance or would this be lost?
Thanks in advanced
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I don't know where to buy the parts but I do know that there are multiple lcd versions, one made by sharp and one made by jdc. Some say the one by sharp is better and some say the one by jdc is better.
Also your phone will probably no longer be waterproof
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Check Witrigs.com
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thanks, i suppose the waterproof could be retained by buying the adhesive seals from that website, i just don't know what lcd to get, was looking at ebay because they are much cheaper, but their are so many variants, has anyone ever done an LCD replacement before on here?

xX_o2_Xx said:
so a month ago i had a massive boo boo and actually managed to trap my phone in the car door, unfortunately this has smashed the front glass and the LCD, I've found many LCD replacements on eBay and several guides on YouTube, i feel confident enough to do it, however I'm just wondering, which LCD with digitizer do i go for, I've seen some saying they have retina i know this is resolution but would it be possible to get a higher quality LCD or will they all be the same quality, i don't want a cheap Chinese copy, i still want the phone to say "Sony" at this top as it would bug me without it,
and also finally, will my phone retain it's water resistance or would this be lost?
Thanks in advanced
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Hey, i've changed the monitor and i can't really tell the difference from before. To me it looks the same and the touch works fine. Just be careful while doing the work, it's not that hard. About the water resistence it all depends on how u do the work and if the adhesive u use is good. I think my z1 still has the water resistence but i don't really want to risk just to check it. Who cares at this point, i have a beatifull working z1. I used it in the rain and snow and no problem, but i don't wanna drop it in the water. Good luck

silentmax24 said:
Hey, i've changed the monitor and i can't really tell the difference from before. To me it looks the same and the touch works fine. Just be careful while doing the work, it's not that hard. About the water resistence it all depends on how u do the work and if the adhesive u use is good. I think my z1 still has the water resistence but i don't really want to risk just to check it. Who cares at this point, i have a beatifull working z1. I used it in the rain and snow and no problem, but i don't wanna drop it in the water. Good luck
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Which lcd did you buy?

xX_o2_Xx said:
Which lcd did you buy?
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i got it on ebay, gonna check exactly wich one later and post it here. Or send you a pm as i'm not sure about the rules on xda and if i can post an ebay link

silentmax24 said:
i got it on ebay, gonna check exactly wich one later and post it here. Or send you a pm as i'm not sure about the rules on xda and if i can post an ebay link
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Thanks, i've just bought some new front and back adhesive from ebay,
this is the screen i was looking at on the bay : "141107022314" i want the LCD to say Sony, i think it finishes the phone off nicely, but if there's an uprated display that'd be amazing, some are advertised as uprated and Retina, but i'm not sure if the quality would be any better from the display

xX_o2_Xx said:
Thanks, i've just bought some new front and back adhesive from ebay,
this is the screen i was looking at on the bay : "141107022314" i want the LCD to say Sony, i think it finishes the phone off nicely, but if there's an uprated display that'd be amazing, some are advertised as uprated and Retina, but i'm not sure if the quality would be any better from the display
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it's no doublt that there are A quality /B quality or other qualty lcds sold online, such dbxstore, they named "brand new AAA" for the original quality, you'd better make sure the lcd is original before you make a order
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right so slight update on this,
i've bought and replaced the LCD, and it all works as it should, but now i can't get any signal at all, wifi works perfectly but not the mobile network, occasionally it'll get some and drop, managed to receive a call yesterday but the signal is very weak/ non existant,

xX_o2_Xx said:
right so slight update on this,
i've bought and replaced the LCD, and it all works as it should, but now i can't get any signal at all, wifi works perfectly but not the mobile network, occasionally it'll get some and drop, managed to receive a call yesterday but the signal is very weak/ non existant,
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Inside the phone there are 2 RF cables on the left and right sides. Check both. They should be properly connected to the mainboard and the other small boards.

Rhadamg said:
Inside the phone there are 2 RF cables on the left and right sides. Check both. They should be properly connected to the mainboard and the other small boards.
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thanks for the reply, just had a look and both are firmly connected at both ends, although one seems to have some minor damage to the cable, although it doesn't look like enough to effect the cable inside

xX_o2_Xx said:
thanks for the reply, just had a look and both are firmly connected at both ends, although one seems to have some minor damage to the cable, although it doesn't look like enough to effect the cable inside
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Make sure both RF cables are connected aswell to the tiny metal brackets on both sides. Also check the colors. Maybe wrong cable colors can affect the signal too.

xX_o2_Xx said:
right so slight update on this,
i've bought and replaced the LCD, and it all works as it should, but now i can't get any signal at all, wifi works perfectly but not the mobile network, occasionally it'll get some and drop, managed to receive a call yesterday but the signal is very weak/ non existant,
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So I've bought a new aerial thinking I damaged the cable, replaced and still no signal at all, any idea?

xX_o2_Xx said:
So I've bought a new aerial thinking I damaged the cable, replaced and still no signal at all, any idea?
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damn, unlucky :\. i'm not sure actually. if not the cables then maybe u've damaged some internal component. try diasembling completely your phone as you did when you changed the monitor, just don't remove the monitor and then reasemble it back carefully. This way if some connecter isn't connected properely, it will be.

[Q] Broken back glass : manufacturing problem or bad luck ?

Dear XDA users,
I bought my Mi 9 early April and after less than a month I have found the back glass broken like this when taking the phone out of my jeans pocket :
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The phone never fell (it has absolutely no marks on the outer metal), I did not perform any special/unusual move with the phone in my pocket, and there was no other items in that pocket (I am used to carry all my phones that way for years).
But this time I just found the mobile like that when I took it out. Note that I am not using any kind of protection.
So I wonder if I just had extreme bad luck or if more devices may have a fragility on their back glass ?

Maybe there was some keys or coins in you pocket and sitting with jeans make some pressure on phones

emprazol said:
Maybe there was some keys or coins in you pocket and sitting with jeans make some pressure on phones
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No as I wrote above there was nothing else in my pocket. I am used to live and travel with all my phones like that for a dozen years, and I never put anything else in the same pocket to avoid damaging the screen. It worked fine until now...

I wonder if it accidentally got hit or something, I know you said no but it looks like that section near the usbc port is took a hit of some sort.
I had my oneplus back crack, only a few weeks old, never dropped etc but I chalked it up to it must have inadvertently got hit somehow/someway without be knowing as I didn't find others with the same issue.

Ducter said:
I wonder if it accidentally got hit or something, I know you said no but it looks like that section near the usbc port is took a hit of some sort.
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The cracks in the glass seem to start from the bottom indeed, but I can assure you that the metal all around the usbc is totally clean (there is a small white reflection there on the picture which may be seen as a damage, but it's not).
I cannot exclude that I missed a "hit" on my pocket during the hour which elapsed since the previous phone usage, but it would still be extremely weak for a gorilla glass 5 to break with a "hit" that I wouldn't have felt or noticed :/

kalhimeo said:
The cracks in the glass seem to start from the bottom indeed, but I can assure you that the metal all around the usbc is totally clean (there is a small white reflection there on the picture which may be seen as a damage, but it's not).
I cannot exclude that I missed a "hit" on my pocket during the hour which elapsed since the previous phone usage, but it would still be extremely weak for a gorilla glass 5 to break with a "hit" that I wouldn't have felt or noticed :/
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Just looking around, can order a new back glass for $10 and it looks simple to replace. That's good at least.
Back removal
https://youtu.be/Pj-6LN53RbE
Replacement back here

It's 3D glass. NEVER leave it unprotected.
2.5D glass on iPhones are much weaker as well (like the front of the Mi 9 which is very close).
3D glass or Edge-Glass (think Samsung Galaxy S7/8/9/10) is also amongst the worst.
No one should go without, AT LEAST, the included case, just because the camera glass isn't sapphire-crystal (9H) but sapphire-glass (5.5H) - like JerryRigEverything test has shown.

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Just looking around, can order a new back glass for $10 and it looks simple to replace. That's good at least.
Back removal
https://youtu.be/Pj-6LN53RbE
Replacement back here
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Thank you very much for the links. I don't have the tool to heat the back but I may try to get it done in a repair shop.
RedWave31 said:
It's 3D glass. NEVER leave it unprotected.
2.5D glass on iPhones are much weaker as well (like the front of the Mi 9 which is very close).
3D glass or Edge-Glass (think Samsung Galaxy S7/8/9/10) is also amongst the worst.
No one should go without, AT LEAST, the included case, just because the camera glass isn't sapphire-crystal (9H) but sapphire-glass (5.5H) - like JerryRigEverything test has shown.
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I had a Galaxy S7 before the Mi 9, two years in my pocket exactly the same way with no protections, never had a scratch on the screen or back

Same issue repeated with the rear glass on Mi9
My phone is in a robust case and the rear glass has been broken 3 times now! I have never broken any screen before and I have had phones for over 25 years.

Hi,
I just realize that I forgot to provide feedback here.
So I bought this back cover on Aliexpress : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33009357325.html
An this heat gun : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32966891985.html
I replaced the back cover myself and it was quite easy. Have a look at video like this one before : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta_vYqOfK0Q
Since then, I am enjoying my Mi 9 and never had any problem with broken back or front glass anymore (although I still don't use any cover and hold the phone in my pocket...).
I think that the original back cover that I had was faulty, although Xiaomi never accepted that and refused to repair under warranty.
Good luck with yours !
Laurent

Thanks I will give it a try.
I have purchased all of the replacement screens do far from eBay..

Looks like bad luck. I don't use a case on my Mi 9 with no issues. The back is all scratched up, but no cracks.

Camera protector

So I bought display glass protectors that included protectors for the camera aswell.
Before applying the screen protector I noticed the factory installed screen protector. It was just barely visible and I had to google if this was a protector and that I do not break anything by removing it
So back to the camera protector. I can't really tell if there is a camera protector installed already. I couldn't find anything regarding this.
Does anybody know? I don't wanna break anything by trying to remove something that isn't there.
Thanks in advance

No, buddy, there's no camera protector. Apply it soon. I can't purchase it locally due to crappy market and already dinted. It's so tiny but i know its there. Drives me nuts.

There is indeed a factory installed cam protector just like the Note 10+
Just use a case with a raised guard around it and it will do fine.
After over 1 year there's zero damage to my 10+'s.
You may need to remove the back panel if you need to replace it but so what?
The add on cam protector isn't needed but a good case is for these Notes. They are corner hit happy and one unprotected drop is all it takes.

I too bought a 4 pack of screen protectors that came with 3 camera protectors as well figured why not right? WRONG once installed they make the flash useless as the flash hits the glass and glares out the photo horribly. No matter how perfect you get the cutout for the flash this issues still happens. I had mine on perfectly even used a lighted magnifying inspection glass to verify when I was installing it.

Same issue here. It causes too much glare when using flash

guys, really put something protective on there! loads of people reported that their camera glass broke without any big impact, including me. Samsung only offers a lenghty repair service instead of admitting their mistake. it's annoying and makes my telezoom lense almost unausable in certain light situations.

Frau Son said:
guys, really put something protective on there! loads of people reported that their camera glass broke without any big impact, including me. Samsung only offers a lenghty repair service instead of admitting their mistake. it's annoying and makes my telezoom lense almost unausable in certain light situations.
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Get a good case with a raised cam assembly guard. Jeeeesze.

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Get a good case with a raised cam assembly guard. Jeeeesze.
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I had one on the day I got the phone. Didn't make a difference. Camera cracked in two places, people on Samsung Members are complaining about the same thing. Not one drop, not one time set on the table roughly. Broken just 3 days after it arrived.

Frau Son said:
I had one on the day I got the phone. Didn't make a difference. Camera cracked in two places, people on Samsung Members are complaining about the same thing. Not one drop, not one time set on the table roughly. Broken just 3 days after it arrived.
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That's not a good case! Finding a good one tough. You absolutely need a raised guard for the cam and screen.
I use the Zizo Bolt on my 10+, while I don't intentionally test it, it's survive around half a dozen drops onto concrete from 2-3 feet with zero damage.

Nillkin makes a case for the S20FE which has a sliding panel to protect the lens.
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I've purchased this on Ali express on HM lucky store.it was not easy to find with the cut out model so you won't get any blurred pictures.

blackhawk said:
Get a good case with a raised cam assembly guard.
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+1, why you would want to use a £500 phone with no case?
archipelago said:
Nillkin makes a case for the S20FE which has a sliding panel to protect the lens.
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This looks quite cool, but looks bulky -
Don1003 said:
I've purchased this on Ali express on HM lucky store.it was not easy to find with the cut out model so you won't get any blurred pictures.
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However I like the idea of adding this even with a case, Do you have a direct link to the product page..?

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b1k3rdude said:
+1, why you would want to use a £500 phone with no case?
This looks quite cool, but looks bulky -
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However I like the idea of adding this even with a case, Do you have a direct link to the product page..?
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https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKxjXJj
You still have to open and a drop while you take pictures with that case won't prevent you could drop it on a small rock with that big size glass. That's why I still prefer a protector strait on the camera. Tomorrow I have to pick up from post office and post picture afterwards with a case.

Ah so I see its just tempered glass with a film to outline the camera lens and flash, clever.

Received today. It's a aluminum Matt Finnish protector. The black is a spigen case and it's still inside the cover.

Nice, doesn't look half bad