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Hey everyone, awesome site! Yep, first post. :cyclops:
I'm completely new to Android though I have hacked a few things and understand the importance of making absolutely sure you know the procedures and make backups in case things get fubar. I've been digging through the posts quite a bit and of course see that opinions on use, stability, etc seem to vary a bit. What I'd like some kind feedback on is (as a nub) am I better off starting out using CM10 and then when I'm ready I can move on to CM11 or has CM11 been developed well enough to just start there. Also wondering how stable is "stable" on both. I'm much more interested in having a good and stable experience than a few extra bells and whistles until the kinks are worked out. I'm running a stock Nook HD+ now so it's all an upgrade in any case. Thanks in advance for all constructive feedback.
I went straight from rooted stock on my HD to CM 11 so I don't know how CM 10 ROMs are. But the CM 11 builds I've used from verygreen's thread since early January have been rock solid on my HD. Just 1 spontaneous reboot in the entire 2 months -- when granting superuser access to an app. That's it. Wi-fi, bluetooth, web browsing, music and video playback are all working fine. Swiping between screens is smooth. I did a clean install before I put CM 11 on, and I think that makes a difference vs. those who did dirty installs.
If you have an HD, CM 11 will let you use full screen mode which is very valuable for a 7" screen. I don't think you will get that with a CM 10 build which is based on JB. If you have an HD+, the gain in screen space that Kit Kat gives you is not as critical.
If you go to CM 10 first, you might have to reinstall everything for a clean install before jumping to CM 11. So you would ultimately save a lot of time by going straight to CM 11.
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hey Jodo901 :good:
my experience was that i purchased a HD+ and did loads of reading both prior to and after purchase. I chose the nook for a number of reasons (price vs performance) but also the awesome input from the guys here on XDA around custom roms.
For years I've always looked to get my devices updated with custom roms but always like to have a proper noob guide lol. The best place to start for me on the HD+ is this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
It explains the process step by step and is idiot proof (i did it!!) I have read numerous threads about which rom to put on the HD+ but settled on the stable 10.1.3 rom. i considered the 10.2 rom but the 10.2 had mixed reviews on the HD+ and the consensus was that 10.1.3 was a stable, mature and smooth rom. I am watching the CM 11 releases closely but it remains a work in progress, although from posters on the thread it seems that it is running almost perfectly. I will switch to CM 11 once verygreen posts a "stable" release - plus you can flash the roms as you wish, so can start with the stable 10.1.3 and then reflash when you're more confident or feel that the CM11 rom is more mature.
My advice would be go for 10.1.3 and follow the guide above. I didn't think the stock rom was that bad, but the 10.1.3 is night and day imho, its smooth, repsonsive and allows lots of funky tweaks. I've had this rom on my HD+ for a few days and am very pleased :fingers-crossed:
all the best with your choice fella
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Thanks for the quick responses guys! You've given me a bit more to consider and look into. That was one of the threads I bookmarked yesterday so thanks for pointing out it's validity. A further question that now comes to mind from what you both have said is how much of a hardware difference is there and is that something that can make a performance difference? Guess I'm still gonna be info diving for a bit tonight after work.
KitKat does improve on performance over Jelly Bean, but it's not something that will affect your daily use. I'm currently using CM 10.1.3 (stable) on a Nook HD+ and HD. I'm considering upgrading the HD to CM 10.2.1, as there is a stable build out. I will definitely upgrade to KitKat/CM11 when a stable build is released.
Personally, I only install stable builds. I don't want the hassle of encountering issues with nightlies. I find that CM10.1.3 is extremely stable, and I have not had any problems with it; although battery life is reduced from the original stock ROM, but that's nothing to be worried about. In conclusion, no issues with the CM10.1.3 stable build.
As a note, I also believe the TRIM issue has been fixed with the CM10.2.1 stable too on the Nook HD+; so CM10.2.1 should be fine too, but I haven't tried it yet.
All the best.
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Jodo901 said:
Thanks for the quick responses guys! You've given me a bit more to consider and look into. That was one of the threads I bookmarked yesterday so thanks for pointing out it's validity. A further question that now comes to mind from what you both have said is how much of a hardware difference is there and is that something that can make a performance difference? Guess I'm still gonna be info diving for a bit tonight after work.
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hey jodo
i'm not sure what you mean by hardware difference? if you mean the effectiveness of each rom on the HD+ i suppose its a matter of preference and through trial and error in trying the roms available. It seems that CM11 is considered the faster of the roms available but as said previously this is an on-going rom development and not considered stable.
I considered what i was going to use my HD+ for, which in my case was surfing and reading books/comics and getting the best return on the stupidly low price vs decent spec and awesome screen. I didn't buy it to game as 1. its hardly a powerhouse for gaming and 2. i dislike mobile gaming and prefer PS and XBOX for that sorta thing. My priorities were smoothness, stability, customisation and battery life which i feel 10.1.3 provides, but others may disagree lol.
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Thanks again for the input guys. :good:
I finally have a some time to dig in on the forums a little and maybe get to the rooting later. I'm running very light on the apps at this point. Just some online stuff, ebooks, comics, etc. Mostly looking for more control and customization.
@fishman09 - I thought perhaps there were hardware differences depending on the manufacture date of the Nook HD+ unit but I haven't seen anything like that so I assume it's a non issue. I know this can be something that makes a difference when hacking older game systems (Xbox, PSP, etc)
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Thanks again to everyone who gave me their 2 cents on my way into all this fun custom Android stuff on my Nook HD+!!
I have now successfully installed 10.2.1 and so far its working well and looks great.
Another data point: I was in same position as you. Decided to go for a cm11 nightly build (this was back in _Jan). It ran reasonably well, but I wondered if 10.2 would be more stable or better with battery life. It felt about the same, with couple missing things, notably no hiding of soft buttons. So I've now gone back to cm11, a march nightly build. I think it is as good as a $120 tablet is going to get . So I'm pretty happy and staying. I even enabled ART runtime and so far everything has run except asphalt 8.
Just make sure you format and wipe everything after doing a backup during your install process.
My Conclusion...or the time being.
Well after about 3 or 4 days of normal usage with CM 10.2.1 I have decided to go back to the stock version of the Nook.The difference in battery drain did not outweigh the bonuses of the upgraded OS for me at all. I would say the battery life was only about 2/3 as long. This is a big drawback in my opinion considering I really wasn't running anything differently. Yeah, it was a bit prettier and more customizable and I was very impressed with the stability, but it's kind of pointless to have a wireless device that you have to keep plugging in all the time.
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Well after about 3 or 4 days of normal usage with CM 10.2.1 I have decided to go back to the stock version of the Nook.The difference in battery drain did not outweigh the bonuses of the upgraded OS for me at all. I would say the battery life was only about 2/3 as long. This is a big drawback in my opinion considering I really wasn't running anything differently. Yeah, it was a bit prettier and more customizable and I was very impressed with the stability, but it's kind of pointless to have a wireless device that you have to keep plugging in all the time.
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I got my new Nook+ last week and pondered whether to root and which ROM to use. After one week of use, I have no real issues keeping it stock for now but will follow the kitkat development for possible future rooting.
Hey guys, been using cryogen on my nook for years now, and while I personally believe that it is much faster than stock, it always seems to eventually bog down, and run slow. While there might be an issue with apps or something else I'm doing wrong that keeps slowing down my nook that's not the MAIN purpose of this forum. I'm looking for the best build and settings to get the most out of my nook. Currently i'm running a recent nightly build with CM11, but was thinking about switching to snapshot for a more stable release. There are two things I want to know before doing this:
1. what is the fastest and most stable build available? I've heard in forums about a liquidsmooth build, slim builds, and obviously used nightlys but which is the best? Also CM10 or CM11 does it matter which?
2. What is the best settings for max performance? On nightly I can use the governor to up the CPU, and I know there's a ram setting, but what about the I/O scheduler? whats the optimal setting for this? Also whats the best map performance settings AND what is the best settings for performance/battery for when i'm not playing games but maybe just web browsing.
ONE FINAL NOTE:
There was a time where I enjoyed spending a week tweaking roms and trying to make experimental roms work but now I don't have time. SO what I'm looking for is a STABLE rom that doesn't need much tweaking and can simple be installed through CWM, and either the basic settings to max performance, or a third party program that will do it for me.
PS: these forums have been good to me these past years so I want to also shout out to everyone that contributes and say thank you.
Others may have differing opinions but I have tried all ROMs available and they all have their ups and downs. The nook hd + is a serviceable tablet and well worth what I paid for it but I have given up on the idea of finding a perfect configuration. My nook performs well enough at the moment to prevent my cheap nature from buying another tab.
That being said I am getting my son a nvidia shield tablet for Christmas so he will have to share
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Others may have differing opinions but I have tried all ROMs available and they all have their ups and downs. The nook hd + is a serviceable tablet and well worth what I paid for it but I have given up on the idea of finding a perfect configuration. My nook performs well enough at the moment to prevent my cheap nature from buying another tab.
That being said I am getting my son a nvidia shield tablet for Christmas so he will have to share
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I whole-heartedly agree with everything you said.
Except for the part about sharing your son's Christmas present. Good luck with that!
Better than nothing
Given that the first two reply were utterly useless I figured I would post what I have found so far. . . A rom called SlimKat is the fastest rom for the nook hd+ I personally have found. I was hoping that others would post USEFUL information to this forum reguarding other ROMS rather than just stating that the nook is limited (which everyone that owns one already knows hints why were are here in the first place). But if you too are looking for a fast rom try here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-hd/development/rom-dev-slimkat-4-4-4-build-8-1-t2894247/page6
I've yet to tweak it, so i'm not sure if there is a govenor on there or a way to improve how the RAM is used. And I still have no clue what an I/O scheduler does, but I didn't see one on this rom.
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Try mokee in original android development section. Nightlies are active, pretty stable , and it is interesting. Yes it is in Chinese at first but you can change language
I like slim kat but I get freezes when streaming videos for long periods.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761812
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Try mokee in original android development section. Nightlies are active, pretty stable , and it is interesting. Yes it is in Chinese at first but you can change language
I like slim kat but I get freezes when streaming videos for long periods.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761812
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That's probably fixed in the LiquidSmooth F2FS version (Pg. 5 of the LS thread), as it uses different PVR source. FWIW.
I actually find asking to be a moot point.
The roms will act differently according to your needs and uses. One rom may work well for someone and not well for another who's use of it constantly goes up against a bug or other problem. Or maybe you just won't like it.
Short story, just do a full recovery backup of what you currently use and then try the others. When you like one try it for a week. If you dislike it just restore the full backup of your choice - if you make full backups of each of them you can go back to any quite fast just the way you left it.
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The roms will act differently according to your needs and uses.
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And hardware (revisions). Take two identical tabs, install identical ROMs using identical methods, and get two different results. One crashes and reboots, the other never does. On a third the battery life suffers or the WifFi misbehaves.
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Short story, just do a full recovery backup of what you currently use and then try the others. When you like one try it for a week. If you dislike it just restore the full backup of your choice - if you make full backups of each of them you can go back to any quite fast just the way you left it.
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And of course, be prepared to restart and repeat the entire process. Because sooner or later you're going to install something that will sour the milk. Or you just like doing it because it's just so much fun!
jb0756: I've tried them all. The variables are staggering. It's amazing these things work as well as they do.
mcord11758 said it best. The HD+ is ... "serviceable."
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Or you just like doing it because it's just so much fun!
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If its not up your alley then don't go there. There are things in the ocean and a breeze in the air.
trying to install 4.3 or higher so new health watch will work. There is so many versions I am confused (which is easy to do) what IS CM 10.2 ? is this the version I need or do I need to use something else and what is the best version of Roms to use. I hope this is not too confusing if so it is because I am confused. Would some one please help me out.
cutting to the chase:
I need 4.3 or higher on my nook HD+.
Thanks
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New age electronics a little fuzzy for me. The install for dummies has the cm11 file site closed.
Is there a newbie install guide for the most stable rom install ? Sorry if my terminology is incorrect. I would like to use a site that has all of the parts needed listed and can be down loaded. I need at least 4.3 or higher. As you can tell I am very new at this and would appreciate any help.
From reading yesterday it looks like cm 10.1.3 is the most stable or is there anew one on the scene.
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carefulone said:
New age electronics a little fuzzy for me. The install for dummies has the cm11 file site closed.
Is there a newbie install guide for the most stable rom install ? Sorry if my terminology is incorrect. I would like to use a site that has all of the parts needed listed and can be down loaded. I need at least 4.3 or higher. As you can tell I am very new at this and would appreciate any help.
From reading yesterday it looks like cm 10.1.3 is the most stable or is there anew one on the scene.
Careful one
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I still think cm10.1.3 is best.
What do you mean the install for dummies has cm11 file site closed? Do you mean my install for dummies thread? The links there still work.
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I see that you still prefer 10.1.3, leapinlar, just curious as to why. I mean I ask because I know 4.4 brings things that should be useful especially TRIM for our older NHD hardware which it should certainly benefit from. I just got an 8GB NHD (I have a 32GB microSD for expansion as well) from a pawn shop several hours ago for $10 (had 2.1 on it, then upgraded to 2.2.1 and it seems to work fine overall) and it's got no issues. My Wife and I communicate using YIM (Yahoo Instant Messenger) and that won't work on the NHD (it's a Yahoo issue, not the NHD) so we're migrating over to using Hangouts which is fine as well.
But now that we have two NHDs I can goof off with mine. She's had one for a few years that I get to play with on occasion, I put CM11 on it a long time ago and it's been fine but tonight I made a backup of mine after a complete de-registration (from the previous owner) so it was clean as a whistle, then I simply restored that backup to hers so now we have to "almost" factory-fresh 2.2.1 NHDs to work with.
I remember when we first got the NHD back in late 2013 the stock software was crap and laggy which is why I pushed CM on it as soon as I could (CM10, then later on CM11). Obviously I want to eek out the best performance I can from this device even in spite of the age so, again, I'm curious to why you prefer 10.1.3 - I'm at a point right now where I'd like to install a custom ROM since I can do more experimentation with my NHD that I just got for $10 than the Wife's, so I'm just "on the market" one could say to see what the options are.
I can't tolerate Lollipop so I won't be going anywhere near Android 5.x or CM12 for any reason; I prefer Android 4.4.x at this point but even after all this time CM still doesn't have a stable CM11 build and at this point I doubt it'll ever happen so, since 10.1.3 appears as a stable option I'm considering it.
I'm guessing you run your 10.1.3 from the eMMC and not SD card, but I don't think I've ever seen you say which way you do things. And just to ask: any issues on your NHD with 10.1.3 that you'd care to mention, anything at all? Everything runs smooth and great, etc? Do you use a custom kernel with any tweaks/governors/etc? If you can answer here, awesome, if not that's fine, perhaps the info is someplace buried in another thread which I need to look for.
You've got vastly more experience with the NHD than I do and your guides and your assistance with these devices (and the Nook Color and Tablet as well) are invaluable resources here so thanks for your continuing efforts.
I'm just looking to get the best performance/battery life/etc from this Nook HD, like most anyone I suppose, so any suggestions are very welcome, indeed.
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I see that you still prefer 10.1.3, leapinlar, just curious as to why. I mean I ask because I know 4.4 brings things that should be useful especially TRIM for our older NHD hardware which it should certainly benefit from. I just got an 8GB NHD (I have a 32GB microSD for expansion as well) from a pawn shop several hours ago for $10 (had 2.1 on it, then upgraded to 2.2.1 and it seems to work fine overall) and it's got no issues. My Wife and I communicate using YIM (Yahoo Instant Messenger) and that won't work on the NHD (it's a Yahoo issue, not the NHD) so we're migrating over to using Hangouts which is fine as well.
But now that we have two NHDs I can goof off with mine. She's had one for a few years that I get to play with on occasion, I put CM11 on it a long time ago and it's been fine but tonight I made a backup of mine after a complete de-registration (from the previous owner) so it was clean as a whistle, then I simply restored that backup to hers so now we have to "almost" factory-fresh 2.2.1 NHDs to work with.
I remember when we first got the NHD back in late 2013 the stock software was crap and laggy which is why I pushed CM on it as soon as I could (CM10, then later on CM11). Obviously I want to eek out the best performance I can from this device even in spite of the age so, again, I'm curious to why you prefer 10.1.3 - I'm at a point right now where I'd like to install a custom ROM since I can do more experimentation with my NHD that I just got for $10 than the Wife's, so I'm just "on the market" one could say to see what the options are.
I can't tolerate Lollipop so I won't be going anywhere near Android 5.x or CM12 for any reason; I prefer Android 4.4.x at this point but even after all this time CM still doesn't have a stable CM11 build and at this point I doubt it'll ever happen so, since 10.1.3 appears as a stable option I'm considering it.
I'm guessing you run your 10.1.3 from the eMMC and not SD card, but I don't think I've ever seen you say which way you do things. And just to ask: any issues on your NHD with 10.1.3 that you'd care to mention, anything at all? Everything runs smooth and great, etc? Do you use a custom kernel with any tweaks/governors/etc? If you can answer here, awesome, if not that's fine, perhaps the info is someplace buried in another thread which I need to look for.
You've got vastly more experience with the NHD than I do and your guides and your assistance with these devices (and the Nook Color and Tablet as well) are invaluable resources here so thanks for your continuing efforts.
I'm just looking to get the best performance/battery life/etc from this Nook HD, like most anyone I suppose, so any suggestions are very welcome, indeed.
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I prefer 10.1.3 because I have never had one issue with it. I tried 10.2 while it was still in nightlies and had issues so moved back. Now that 10.2.1 is stable it may be ok. I tried Jon Lee's 10.2 with the tweaked kernel and found it unstable.
And I do run from emmc, but have run from SD with no issues using a good SD.
I recommend against 11 for the HD+ for the very reason you tout it, TRIM. I have seen a lot of HD+ get bricked by TRIM even though the kernel is supposed to be fixed to prevent that. It is just certain models of HD+, others seem safe. I have not heard of any HD's getting bricked though.
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Just tried CM11 (the 8-13 Nightly) and was somewhat disappointed in some aspects; I have a bunch of content on the Google Play Movies & TV side of things and that app won't play any videos at all on CM11, not sure what the issue is and I'm not interested in bothering with it so I'm rolling back to pure stock 2.2.1 for the time being.
I most likely will give 10.1.3 a shot, it can't hurt I suppose and I figure it'll be pretty snappy all around.
Any idea if there are any custom kernels that might function on that (meaning 10.1.3) to allow for more options for tweaking things (governors and I/O, etc)? I'll do more research but for now as stated I'll stick with pure stock since it seems to work ok.
Thanks for the response...
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Just tried CM11 (the 8-13 Nightly) and was somewhat disappointed in some aspects; I have a bunch of content on the Google Play Movies & TV side of things and that app won't play any videos at all on CM11, not sure what the issue is and I'm not interested in bothering with it so I'm rolling back to pure stock 2.2.1 for the time being.
I most likely will give 10.1.3 a shot, it can't hurt I suppose and I figure it'll be pretty snappy all around.
Any idea if there are any custom kernels that might function on that (meaning 10.1.3) to allow for more options for tweaking things (governors and I/O, etc)? I'll do more research but for now as stated I'll stick with pure stock since it seems to work ok.
Thanks for the response...
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Yes, I think the yellow kernel by Jon Lee has a 10.1.3 version. But I found it unstable.
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I also need to know which ROM is best for 4.3+. I have an android wear watch I need to pair. Should I use cm 10.2 or 11? Which ROM of the better cm should I use? Much obliged for your help and assistance.
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I ran CM11 for quite a while, and performance ground to a halt. Maybe there's not a ROM out there that doesn't need to be reflashed every once in a while, but I'm curious what folks have found viable as a daily driver. I'm looking at new tablets, but wouldn't mind getting the old HD+ in give-to-a-niece-or-nephew condition if nothing else.
I semi-accidentally flashed Nougat from Amaces' thread, and it's a big improvement over my bogged-down CM11 build, but has some display and battery glitches. I'm grabbing his/her most recent Marshmallow build to try now.
Any thoughts on what's the most stable and best performance? Does anyone else find their system slowing way down over time, without a fresh install?
I had had the same good experience with CM11 until mid last year when many commonly used apps started to become unresponsive and oftentime crashed (force-closed). So over the holidays break I took the plunge and upgraded to Amaces' experimental build lnos_ovation-ota-NMF26Q.170104, so far the performance is as good as it used to be with CM11.
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I ran CM11 for quite a while, and performance ground to a halt. Maybe there's not a ROM out there that doesn't need to be reflashed every once in a while, but I'm curious what folks have found viable as a daily driver. I'm looking at new tablets, but wouldn't mind getting the old HD+ in give-to-a-niece-or-nephew condition if nothing else.
I semi-accidentally flashed Nougat from Amaces' thread, and it's a big improvement over my bogged-down CM11 build, but has some display and battery glitches. I'm grabbing his/her most recent Marshmallow build to try now.
Any thoughts on what's the most stable and best performance? Does anyone else find their system slowing way down over time, without a fresh install?
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Hi, I'm in the same boat as you my friend.
Decided to dig up my old nook HD+ I hadn't use for about a 2 years and found it had carbonrom (jellybean 4.2.2) on it. I remember really getting frustrated at the frequent reboots but it was still better than the extremely laggy CM builds that were available at the time.
Need something extremely stable as I plan to hand this off to my dad who quite non-tech-savvy but enjoys a few time killer games.
How is the performance on Marshmallow? I'm kinda still hesitant to upgrade too far to the latest android from the fear of poor performance due to higher hardware requirements for newer generations of android
I am also upgrading for the issues you mentioned. Netflix and YouTube became slow and as some people have reported would not play videos due to thinking they were not connected to the internet. I was on CM 12 and will try one of Amaces new builds, just not sure which one.
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I am also upgrading for the issues you mentioned. Netflix and YouTube became slow and as some people have reported would not play videos due to thinking they were not connected to the internet. I was on CM 12 and will try one of Amaces new builds, just not sure which one.
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I personally use his last MM build (because xposed), with the official relax of twrp 3.0.2.0 with great results. I use Pico GApps, and have no issues with it. I have used the N builds, they all worked well for me, but I just like xposed to much to keep using anything newer than that last MM build.
OK, so me too. My husband is finally tired of his HD crying about no space to re-install B&N crapware apps (Hulu+, Twitter, etc.) and is ready for something beyond rooted stock. His main prerequisite beyond stability is a smoothly functioning HDMI port which he uses a lot.
I just recently flashed AOSP 7.0 on my Nook Tablet and like it, but I have no idea where to go with the HD. So many choices. It doesn't seem sensible to go back to something like CM 11 at this point. And....how can you tell one coded file name from another in @amaces folders?
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And....how can you tell one coded file name from another in @amaces folders?
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I believe the file names of Andrei Măceș' ROM builds (for both of his AOSP and CM/LM ROMs) are derived from the names of the corresponding Android OS releases+builds that they are based on. See https://source.android.com/source/build-numbers.html for the naming convention for the Android OS releases/builds.
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His main prerequisite beyond stability is a smoothly functioning HDMI port which he uses a lot.
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Beware that there seems to be an issue with HDMI support on late CM13 and LN14 releases -- see https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71075161&postcount=1649.
Also, it might be worth checking out if screen-casting is an acceptable alternative to HDMI.
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I believe the file names of Andrei Măceș' ROM builds (for both of his AOSP and CM/LM ROMs) are derived from the names of the corresponding Android OS releases+builds that they are based on. See https://source.android.com/source/build-numbers.html for the naming convention for the Android OS releases/builds.
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Beware that there seems to be an issue with HDMI support on late CM13 and LN14 releases -- see https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71075161&postcount=1649.
Also, it might be worth checking out if screen-casting is an acceptable alternative to HDMI.
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OK, thanks. So for now I'll check out the CM 12 thread and maybe early CM 13. A pity about the HDMI, but understandable considering it's such a specific feature.
Going retro!
We decided to go for CM 11 on the Nook HD--at least for now. Reading about the various issues with ROMs beyond KitKat is sort of disheartening, and with CM 11 I knew we'd still have the HDMI out working (yes it does!). Since it's also my husband's first "real" android experience (not counting the stock B&N system), something safe and stable seemed like a good first step. The installation went without a hitch, but I wish I had wiped system along with everything else as there was a bunch of B&N junk folders and prior app data still present in 0. Anyway, not too much to clean up.
Meanwhile we can investigate various screen casting options for both his HD and my Nook Tablet.
Our thanks to @dofuuz who posted CM 11 builds here.
>Reading about the various issues with ROMs beyond KitKat is sort of disheartening
Not sure why you're disappointed, as the Nook (HD and HD+) has far outlived most of its peers. It's like criticizing a dog that can't sing well, when we should celebrate the wonder that it can sing at all.
I'd never thought that I'd still be here in these forums. But the Nook is still very much usable, with the latest Nougat ROMs. It's slower, yes, but everything still runs as it should. The few bugs are known and are manageable.
I've dabbled in all the versions. The fastest version for me was 10.1/10.2. After that, they all go downhill in terms of speed, and unfortunately also bugs. The latest version doesn't help much in the speed department, but it's also the most stable. Most importantly, it's the only one that still has active development. Most current apps work, as well as casual games.
Shout-outs to @leapinlar and @PeteInSequim, if they're still around. Thanks to @digixmax and others for taking up the mantle of the shepherd for the few remaining stragglers here. Lastly, thanks to @amaces for still hanging around this place.
No, don't get me wrong. I think the custom ROMs are phenomenal. I run @amaces AOSP 7.0 on my Nook Tablet (talk about ancient). But everyone has a different tolerance for glitches, and in this case a functioning HDMI port was a priority. The HD runs like well-tuned machine now and we don't need a more up-to-date OS for anything we do right now. So it's lucky a copy of the CM 11 ROM was still available.
The day may come for an update, but for now we're happy.
This is not a place to compare roms, but a place to share your experience with your current daily driver on your Oneplus 5.
What rom are you currently using?
How do you like it?
What is your overall experience with it?
Are you using it with a specific kernel or the built-in one?
Would you recommend it to someone?
Etc...
Let discussion begin!
Note: I think having a thread like this can help keeping development threads clean.
Good initiative!
I tried many Roms and Kernels since I've got my OP5 about an week and a half ago.
First thing i was getting rid of the "buggy" official stock rom haha. I played with it for a vew hours and gave in. Than i was preparing everything for unlocking, rooting etc..etc... It was easier than i thought! Didn't expect it!
First ROM i flashed was an unreleased BETA build from a team i being part off. Just to getting used to this device and playing aLOT with an optimized Kernel (also an build by the Team Dev) after a vew days, i was trying other ROMs, i mean no Roms that where close or based on stock OOS. More based on AOSP and LOS.
After a couple of days, i found my right ROM and Kernel combination so i ended up with:
"RR Unofficial" with "Blu_Sparky" Kernel!
I like the debloated version of RR and the battery friendly and easy tunable Blu_Spark Kernel with EX Manager.
I get about 9-10 hours SOT, since I'm not an heavy multitasker or gamer. Besides that, i'm facing no errors, no random reboots, no screen blackouts, or whatsoever! It is for me the Stable Combination!
Currently I'm waiting for an Android 8 Build by the Team Dev. Which is also going to be an AOSP based Rom with "hopefully" aLOT of Optimizations!
Easy does it
Edit: This was a newbie post. I won't recommend this anymore, since it is outdated and whatsoever...
lekiaM said:
Good initiative!
I tried many Roms and Kernels since I've got my OP5 about an week and a half ago.
First thing i was getting rid of the "buggy" official stock rom haha. I played with it for a vew hours and gave in. Than i was preparing everything for unlocking, rooting etc..etc... It was easier than i thought! Didn't expect it!
First ROM i flashed was an unreleased BETA build from a team i being part off. Just to getting used to this device and playing aLOT with an optimized Kernel (also an build by the Team Dev) after a vew days, i was trying other ROMs, i mean no Roms that where close or based on stock OOS. More based on AOSP and LOS.
After a couple of days, i found my right ROM and Kernel combination so i ended up with:
"RR Unofficial" with "Blu_Sparky" Kernel!
I like the debloated version of RR and the battery friendly and easy tunable Blu_Spark Kernel with EX Manager.
I get about 9-10 hours SOT, since I'm not an heavy multitasker or gamer. Besides that, i'm facing no errors, no random reboots, no screen blackouts, or whatsoever! It is for me the Stable Combination!
Currently I'm waiting for an Android 8 Build by the Team Dev. Which is also going to be an AOSP based Rom with "hopefully" aLOT of Optimizations!
Easy does it
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Thanks a lot for sharing your experience with us. That's helpful! :good:
My first ever Android device was a Nexus 6P, and I ran only Pure Nexus on it. I then moved to the Pixel XL, and also primarily ran Pure Nexus. After basically two years of running an AOSP based ROM, I had only good opinions on AOSP based ROMs.
Because development seemed a little tricky for Pixels, I decided to switch over to the OnePlus 5. I, then, flashed a handful of AOSP based ROMs, hoping I would receive the same stability, smoothness, and just the right amount of features Pure Nexus has.
The results didn't seem to be the same. I am by no means bashing on, hating, or criticizing any AOSP based ROM that is available for this device, but I personally just did not feel the same smoothness as I did on Pure Nexus. I decided to try LOS based ROMs, and the unofficial RR has by far been the best!
It's smooth, stable, and very snappy. There is one thing that "bugs" me though (excuse the pun lol):
The VPN icon doesn't hide, unless you disable and reenable something else in the SystemUI tuner. This workaround only lasts until you restart the phone, or even restart the SystemUI
Another thing worth noting (which isn't a bug), there are some unneeded apps that I have to manually uninstall with TitaniumBackup, such as the Music app, the file explorer, and the default phone and contacts app (among a couple others). Very small inconvenience and it's not enough to keep me away from the ROM lol.
Other than that, it's an amazing ROM, especially because it already comes with a custom kernel, and YouTube AdBlock/Background Playback!
Going back to the AOSP based ROMs, just to further reinforce that I'm not trying to bash these ROMs: OnePlus 5 is still a relatively new device, and development is probably still in its early stages; I'll definitely give those ROMs another try down the road, and see how my experience is then.
Also, I wasn't on those ROMs for too long, so maybe I just didn't allow the OS to "settle". Not sure if this is even a real thing, but I've heard other users mentioning letting a fresh install of an OS "settle" before truly making any critiques/comments.
As for OOS based ROMs, I was on stock for a very short amount of time, and I also tried xXx, both great ROMs (especially xXx). However,when you have as many features/customization options as RR has, it's hard to use anything OOS-based, especially because there is no full Substratum support (which is super important to me).
Hope this helped!
rickysidhu_ said:
My first ever Android device was a Nexus 6P, and I ran only Pure Nexus on it. I then moved to the Pixel XL, and also primarily ran Pure Nexus. After basically two years of running an AOSP based ROM, I had only good opinions on AOSP based ROMs.
Because development seemed a little tricky for Pixels, I decided to switch over to the OnePlus 5. I, then, flashed a handful of AOSP based ROMs, hoping I would receive the same stability, smoothness, and just the right amount of features Pure Nexus has.
The results didn't seem to be the same. I am by no means bashing on, hating, or criticizing any AOSP based ROM that is available for this device, but I personally just did not feel the same smoothness as I did on Pure Nexus. I decided to try LOS based ROMs, and the unofficial RR has by far been the best!
It's smooth, stable, and very snappy. There is one thing that "bugs" me though (excuse the pun lol):
The VPN icon doesn't hide, unless you disable and reenable something else in the SystemUI tuner. This workaround only lasts until you restart the phone, or even restart the SystemUI
Another thing worth noting (which isn't a bug), there are some unneeded apps that I have to manually uninstall with TitaniumBackup, such as the Music app, the file explorer, and the default phone and contacts app (among a couple others). Very small inconvenience and it's not enough to keep me away from the ROM lol.
Other than that, it's an amazing ROM, especially because it already comes with a custom kernel, and YouTube AdBlock/Background Playback!
Going back to the AOSP based ROMs, just to further reinforce that I'm not trying to bash these ROMs: OnePlus 5 is still a relatively new device, and development is probably still in its early stages; I'll definitely give those ROMs another try down the road, and see how my experience is then.
Also, I wasn't on those ROMs for too long, so maybe I just didn't allow the OS to "settle". Not sure if this is even a real thing, but I've heard other users mentioning letting a fresh install of an OS "settle" before truly making any critiques/comments.
As for OOS based ROMs, I was on stock for a very short amount of time, and I also tried xXx, both great ROMs (especially xXx). However,when you have as many features/customization options as RR has, it's hard to use anything OOS-based, especially because there is no full Substratum support (which is super important to me).
Hope this helped!
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Well elaborated. And as you know the device is very new, so hopefully custom roms will become more and more stable with time.
Thanks for sharing!
Share about your daily driver experience here. We want to hear how much you are enjoying your OP5.
I used Nexus 6p before i bought the OP5 and I think OxygenOS is one of the best roms build by a hardware building company. After some months I started to switch my kernel because I had a little bit drain and started to read in Xda what could help and now I am at my best every day use combination and it is OOS plus blu_spark it works stable and I can underclock it easily because I am a light user: Browsing, WhatsApp and Phone call sometimes Maps that's all what I need and this combo lifts my usage to 2 full days. I am not an SOT guy so the lowest Screen Off Drain is my Must Have.
MazeHei said:
I used Nexus 6p before i bought the OP5 and I think OxygenOS is one of the best roms build by a hardware building company. After some months I started to switch my kernel because I had a little bit drain and started to read in Xda what could help and now I am at my best every day use combination and it is OOS plus blu_spark it works stable and I can underclock it easily because I am a light user: Browsing, WhatsApp and Phone call sometimes Maps that's all what I need and this combo lifts my usage to 2 full days. I am not an SOT guy so the lowest Screen Off Drain is my Must Have.
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Thanks for sharing!
Just a quick update on my daily driver:
In my previous post I mentioned being on RR Unofficial, but since then I have switched to Pure Fusion!
As you know from my previous post, I'm a huge PureNexus fan and Pure Fusion is based on that, so I flashed it in a heartbeat.
That with the stock kernel has been amazing, as I feel it provides just the right amount of features I'll most likely be sticking to this ROM for as long as I own this device!
rickysidhu_ said:
Just a quick update on my daily driver:
In my previous post I mentioned being on RR Unofficial, but since then I have switched to Pure Fusion!
As you know from my previous post, I'm a huge PureNexus fan and Pure Fusion is based on that, so I flashed it in a heartbeat.
That with the stock kernel has been amazing, as I feel it provides just the right amount of features I'll most likely be sticking to this ROM for as long as I own this device!
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Great to hear that. How do you find Pure Fusion compared to PureNexus you used to use?
Yousvel said:
Great to hear that. How do you find Pure Fusion compared to PureNexus you used to use?
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As far as I can tell, it's pretty much identical. The settings for the ROM have the same UI, very similar set of features; maybe just a little more than PureNexus!
It's also fast, smooth and stable like PureNexus as well
rickysidhu_ said:
As far as I can tell, it's pretty much identical. The settings for the ROM have the same UI, very similar set of features; maybe just a little more than PureNexus!
It's also fast, smooth and stable like PureNexus as well
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Nice! Are you using N or O? How's signal?
Yousvel said:
Nice! Are you using N or O? How's signal?
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I'm on N as there is no O build available just yet. Signal is completely fine, but I believe there were a couple of users having issues with signal strength.
I've encountered no bugs or issues thus far. I did have random reboots but a clean flash seemed to have helped