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The NFC chip of the Nexus S is located on the battery cover, IIRC. I was wondering if it is possible to install it on our Nexus One.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/26/rim-bank-of-america-partnering-up-for-mobile-wallet-nfc-trial/
According to this, it is possible to add the NFC chip to older blackberry phones that didn't come with the NFC. I'm not a very tech savvy person so I was wondering what other kinds of hardware connection you need to make it work?
Well, I would think it wouldn't take much to put a pre-programmed chip anywhere you want. But tying in to the rest of the hardware, and thus software... I can't imagine this is easy.
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The NFC chip of the Nexus S is located on the battery cover, IIRC. I was wondering if it is possible to install it on our Nexus One.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/26/rim-bank-of-america-partnering-up-for-mobile-wallet-nfc-trial/
According to this, it is possible to add the NFC chip to older blackberry phones that didn't come with the NFC. I'm not a very tech savvy person so I was wondering what other kinds of hardware connection you need to make it work?
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Yeah I was curious after reading this post as well. If an ancient Blackberry can do it, surely the N1 should have no trouble. Then again, the Blackberry models have always had a sort of built in NFC for interfacing with their holsters, so it might be a build up on that.
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Yeah I was curious after reading this post as well. If an ancient Blackberry can do it, surely the N1 should have no trouble. Then again, the Blackberry models have always had a sort of built in NFC for interfacing with their holsters, so it might be a build up on that.
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I don't think it is NFC. I believe it is some kind of magnetic sensor. The Holster has a magnet and when the phone leaves the magnetic field, it automatically turns the screen on or something. But you could be right that it could be related to NFC.
Most blackberries have dock connectors in their battery doors that allow for power and I am pretty sure data transfer, thus of a new back was inserted, the infrastructure would already exist for it to talk to the phone. N1 doesn't have this on the battery door.
Well ok, maybe not the battery door. But how about the docking pins? They allow for data and power transfer? Sure, it'd interfere with docking if you'd mount a chip on there. But some people might be perfectly happy with that..
Or am I talking about completely different things here?
I'm pretty sure the docking pins would be a viable option, as they do transfer data (tell Nexus One to open clock, open car mode). I don't know anyone who would reverse-engineer that much though
pinke123 said:
Most blackberries have dock connectors in their battery doors that allow for power and I am pretty sure data transfer, thus of a new back was inserted, the infrastructure would already exist for it to talk to the phone. N1 doesn't have this on the battery door.
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Didn't expect rim to be this forward thinking.
Those docking pins, since they they are not connected to the door are irrelevant. They bear no resemblance to the ones on a bb because you can't just swap out the bottom piece of the phone for one with an nfc chip in it.
The only possible solution for this idea that I can think of (prepare yourselves, it is pretty out there) is to place an "L" shaped tab between the battery connectors on the battery and phone, have connectors on the other end of the "L" that sit on top of the battery, and make a new back cover that has an nfc chip in it, and connectors to the "L" tab. This would only work if there was a way for the phone to send data to the battery, if that were possible the tab would create a fork in the data "road" and allow for interaction between the phone and nfc chip. I highly doubt that the N1 has such a sophisticated battery, but I do know that this is possible because some macbook batteries get firmware updates pushed directly to the battery. So if you were a genius mechanical engineer, the phone and battery could talk, and you had a lot of time on your hands, you could probably do it.
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Didn't expect rim to be this forward thinking.
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Actually RIM and Bank of America are partnering to do a pilot program of bb's with nfc chips:
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...wallet-nfc-trial/&category=classic&postPage=1
I wouldn't be too sure about this, but SD cards with NFC chips integrated have been looked at.
Edit - can't put in a link yet, so just google NFC SD card and there a articles on this.
How useful this would be for us remains to be seen. I don't think the NFC drivers are loaded into the passion release...
More than likely, we'll all have changed phones by the time NFC is widespread. I wouldn't get the Nexus S though
is it really possible?
Well I 'll start the fire ...
Have you all seen the Nook Tablet tear down by iFixit ..
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nook-Tablet-Teardown/7121/1
Here is the Nook Color
http://www.zdnet.com/photos/nookcolor-teardown/487636?tag=mantle_skin;content
Don't all the parts look exactly the same as the Nook Color.. even the new battery has Nook Color on it.
Here is a comparison pic of the two boards. Attached.
So could the parts be interchangable...?
According to B&N, the Tablet does have microphone, so the bare board must have some sorts of difference.
Can you re-take a look at the Tablet's microphone, it should be somewhere in the lower left corner of your picture (opposite side of the jack)
Yes its actually on the other side of the the board and doesnot create a problem.
Just a small hole needed ...
It's possible you could run into problems with the lcd and touch screen controllers. I know the Tablet uses a different model touch screen, but as long as the connection is the same that might only be a driver problem that would require a custom NT kernel with that NC driver added. The lcd controller is on the system board and appears to possibly be an identical model (LVDS83B), but there are other numbers on the chip before that and I honestly don't know if they indicate different models
They look similar to the extent they are the same size and shape with some parts in the same place, but to me they look radically different.
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They look similar to the extent they are the same size and shape with some parts in the same place, but to me they look radically different.
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Sure, but I think he's asking in terms of being able to swap out a system board from a NT (like if he found one with a broken screen that is being sold cheaply for parts) and many of the internal changes to the system board wouldn't affect that
The thing I like most about this tear down is their use of connectors NOT soldering. Makes replacing high wear parts much easier. Also the neat thing here is the interchangeability of parts between NC and NT, should make the screen/buttons/battery quite cheaper.
Aside from that I didnt see any notation of onboard bluetooth. Did I miss it?
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The thing I like most about this tear down is their use of connectors NOT soldering. Makes replacing high wear parts much easier. Also the neat thing here is the interchangeability of parts between NC and NT, should make the screen/buttons/battery quite cheaper.
Aside from that I didnt see any notation of onboard bluetooth. Did I miss it?
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Bluetooth is built in to the Wifi chip on both of these. It still remains to be seen if the Tablet's BT can be activated though
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Bluetooth is built in to the Wifi chip on both of these. It still remains to be seen if the Tablet's BT can be activated though
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The teardown doesn't list the wifi chip. I don't think they even exposed the processor fully. Are you sure that's true?
Well even replacing the battery with the tablets one which is much bigger is a huge benefit.
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The teardown doesn't list the wifi chip. I don't think they even exposed the processor fully. Are you sure that's true?
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Good question. Either I saw it on someone else's photos or I'm misremembering that confirmation
pavlos46 said:
Well even replacing the battery with the tablets one which is much bigger is a huge benefit.
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No that's wrong it appears the batteries are identical. So the only benefit possibly is replacing the main board.
pavlos46 said:
Well even replacing the battery with the tablets one which is much bigger is a huge benefit.
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The pictures show that the batteries are identical, and the Tablet's battery was even labeled as "NOOKCOLOR". The battery life difference comes only from newer, more efficient parts like the CPU, GPU and probably the screen too
Hmmmm, I have a Nook Color that the motherboard is fried on.
I was going to replace it with one from Portatronics or hope someone is selling theirs with a broken screen or sell mine for parts.
I'd be willing to try to replace it with a Nook Tablet motherboard and see if it works once they become available (depending on cost), the only thing that looks like it might give trouble is the touchscreen controller.
Everything else looks like it has the same orientation and connectors.
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Hmmmm, I have a Nook Color that the motherboard is fried on.
I was going to replace it with one from Portatronics or hope someone is selling theirs with a broken screen or sell mine for parts.
I'd be willing to try to replace it with a Nook Tablet motherboard and see if it works once they become available (depending on cost), the only thing that looks like it might give trouble is the touchscreen controller.
Everything else looks like it has the same orientation and connectors.
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http://www.portatronics.com/product...rboard.html&XTCsid=54urbaq70eh1agh4fv3cklijj4
It is available now, pls let me know the result, i want to "upgrade" my nook color to nook tablet too
singlag said:
http://www.portatronics.com/product...rboard.html&XTCsid=54urbaq70eh1agh4fv3cklijj4
It is available now, pls let me know the result, i want to "upgrade" my nook color to nook tablet too
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Sorry, I got a great deal on one from a Nook Color from Ebay.
I replaced it and it works great again.
I remember reading somewhere that CM9 includes the touchscreen driver for the new screen but I could be mistaken.
Hi all,
I've looked at recent threads and searched also, but the threads are either all dead or were outdated, so please go easy!
I'm due to go to America this summer, and was looking to buy a few batteries to switch while I take pictures and videos (My Note is the best camera I have), and I really am in need of good batteries, but they MUST be stock sized. I've been looking everywhere, but I'm worried some may be fake, and I don't know whether the ones with high capacities are any different to the stock capacity ones.
Could anyone recommend me any good batteries that will fit the phone and last a long time, but don't cost an arm and a leg to buy?
Thanks in advance!
http://www.amazon.com/Batteries-SGH...80805&sr=8-2&keywords=galaxy+note+n7000+anker
I have those and they work great
As most of you may have noticed, with the OP3 going out of production and the arrival of the 3T, one thing has remained strikingly similar. And that sometimes could lead to upgrades on users' current phones that are the OnePlus 3.
Just like HTC with the One X and the One X+, the bigger battery from the X+ yielded much greater performance in the battery department and surprisingly in the heat department too. The battery from the OP3T (disassembly and analysis is awaited) could potentially be used in our phone for greater (than usual) battery performance.
The structure of the housing looks to be the same, and the way the OP3 is built, the housings are merely just shells to wrap around the internals, nothing major (like the iPhone) so the Gun Metal casing could potentially be transferred over to the OP3.
This is all just based on speculation however. Time will tell when eventually iFixit or someone else performs a teardown.
My thoughts
Wouldn't say no to a bigger battery but time will tell
Same thought here as well,
I've been doing iphone parts repair n replacement for years,,
And what ive been doing quite often recently was placing an iphone 6+ battery to iphone 6s+,
The benefit is, the older model has slightly bigger battery, thus giving better battery life,
Hopefully OP using same connector for both OP3 & OP3T and hopefully the voltage spec didn't altered much. So that the tinkering one can see what can be achieved
Also wouldn't say no to a bigger battery but it's a moot point at this time since OP won't be selling it independently. Was just talking to Jeff on live chat and he said that they have no plans on selling any phone parts. Also, it's incompatible.
PlayPetepp said:
Also wouldn't say no to a bigger battery but it's a moot point at this time since OP won't be selling it independently. Was just talking to Jeff on live chat and he said that they have no plans on selling any phone parts. Also, it's incompatible.
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That's a real bummer. However I'm sure part resellers (like some of them do) will be buying phones to take them apart and then resell parts.
Someone in the Reddit AMA recently noted that the battery does fit - OnePlus agreed more or less that it's merely just a more dense cell. Which is great news!
Where did you get that info? If it's compatible that would be huge. Only thing from that phone I would like is that battery! :fingers-crossed:
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Where did you get that info? If it's compatible that would be huge. Only thing from that phone I would like is that battery! :fingers-crossed:
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A user on Reddit stated that the battery does indeed fit and OnePlus (Carl or Pete) said that the battery is the same with more dense cells to increase capacity while maintaining the size
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A user on Reddit stated that the battery does indeed fit and OnePlus (Carl or Pete) said that the battery is the same with more dense cells to increase capacity while maintaining the size
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In this case size doesn't matter. It's still incompatible with OP3. Aaron mentioned it. Screenshot attached.
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In this case size doesn't matter. It's still incompatible with OP3. Aaron mentioned it. Screenshot attached.
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I wouldn't blindly trust that statement. The battery most likely works if it fits. Of course it's also possible that the battery management system (BMS) would notice that the battery doesn't match preprogrammed values and that would render the battery incompatible but I doubt that. I would guess though that the the extra capacity would be wasted. I don't know where the BMS is implemented but it would need to be changed as well to get the new battery fully charged to its higher voltage. The old BMS would stop charging sooner and the capacity would be the same as in OP3.
Guess we'll have to wait for the teardown to be sure or maybe some brave soul to try it out for us.
Also a quote from reddit
I think it will work just fine because the phone charges until a certain voltage is reached. So the nominal Wh of the OP3T battery in OP3 will be 12.92Wh instead of 13.09Wh (that the battery of OP3T is capable of). Now, the OP3 has 11.4Wh so it will be an improvement.
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Also a quote from reddit
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I DMed Zach from JRE and we discussed other scenarios. I did tell him that the battery charges until the battery controller chip knows the battery reaches maximum charge. Looks like the battery definitely works! This is great news. And it shouldn't void warranty either, I took a look inside and there's only one warranty sticker which doesn't get pierced after changing the battery. I guess you could keep the old one safe incase anything happens.
Now to wait for batteries to surface
That's great news indeed. I'm now only concerned about the lowest safe voltage that the new battery can reach. If it's the same as the old one then there's nothing wrong with just swapping it but otherwise it could discharge to the point of not being able to be charged again. That's without software tweaks ofcourse. Could you also ask this question too? That would probably alleviate any potential dangers of it being swapped before anyone builds software to support it.
Hello there, I am pretty new to this forum so please advise me if there is anything wrong with this thread.
I own a oneplus 3 pretty much since the release date, and I have been very happy with it, except for the not optimal battery life.
Now, as you can take from the heading of this thread, I am thinking about rebleacing the back of my oneplus 3 with a larger one, idealy one that covers up the battery bump, so I can fit in a larger battery. Additionaly I probably will need to transfer the antennas, and do something about the speaker and microphone ports.
I would like to make the back out of aluminum via a cnc service online, but for prototyping a 3D printed solution would probably be sufficient. The other question is, where to find a battery that is larger than that in the oneplus 3s standart battery, but still beeing able to fit it inside the space made availible by the new hull.
I would love to hear your thoughts on this project, especially considering problems, that could occure.
I hope this project is interessting for some of you, and we can make the op3 even more awesome.
Javamaster10000 said:
Hello there, I am pretty new to this forum so please advise me if there is anything wrong with this thread.
I own a oneplus 3 pretty much since the release date, and I have been very happy with it, except for the not optimal battery life.
Now, as you can take from the heading of this thread, I am thinking about rebleacing the back of my oneplus 3 with a larger one, idealy one that covers up the battery bump, so I can fit in a larger battery. Additionaly I probably will need to transfer the antennas, and do something about the speaker and microphone ports.
I would like to make the back out of aluminum via a cnc service online, but for prototyping a 3D printed solution would probably be sufficient. The other question is, where to find a battery that is larger than that in the oneplus 3s standart battery, but still beeing able to fit it inside the space made availible by the new hull.
I would love to hear your thoughts on this project, especially considering problems, that could occure.
I hope this project is interessting for some of you, and we can make the op3 even more awesome.
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Maybe you could get a 3t battery and replace it. It's bigger in capacity,but same in size. Like Jerry did here
dulexetina said:
Maybe you could get a 3t battery and replace it. It's bigger in capacity,but same in size. Like Jerry did here
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That wouldn't work since the battery is different voltage when charged fully. You're gonna have to find a 4.35V (max voltage, I think the nominal voltage is 3.8V) li-ion battery that is the same size in thickness and height but has deeper depth.
Anyways this project sounds like it could have some potential... I'd be really down to see a CNC machines aluminum back cover that can accomodate a larger battery. I would buy one in a heartbeat
crzykiller said:
That wouldn't work since the battery is different voltage when charged fully. You're gonna have to find a 4.35V (max voltage, I think the nominal voltage is 3.8V) li-ion battery that is the same size in thickness and height but has deeper depth.
Anyways this project sounds like it could have some potential... I'd be really down to see a CNC machines aluminum back cover that can accomodate a larger battery. I would buy one in a heartbeat
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Some guys did the swap in the lg nexus 5-they placed inside a lg g2s battery which is 3000mah vs 2300mah! It worked for them,so i think there is a chance for this swap also. Maybe we can also mess around with the kernel to make it work. All of this sounds easier than making new back cover
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Some guys did the swap in the lg nexus 5-they placed inside a lg g2s battery which is 3000mah vs 2300mah! It worked for them,so i think there is a chance for this swap also. Maybe we can also mess around with the kernel to make it work. All of this sounds easier than making new back cover
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That's because the Nexus 5 and LG G2 batteries were the same voltage. This has already been tried and at first it didn't charge fully, then OnePlus implemented a safety feature that detects when a OP3T battery is installed and doesn't allow the phone to boot. We could make a kernel that charges to a higher voltage (the opposite of bedalus' BLX mod in his moxie kernel) but it could be dangerous and isn't worth the risk.
Little off topic but any good quality replacement batteries out there I can replace with?
I do love this idea but there's no way to avoid opening your phone, so be very hard to get everyone wanting one.
savvymatthew said:
Little off topic but any good quality replacement batteries out there I can replace with?
I do love this idea but there's no way to avoid opening your phone, so be very hard to get everyone wanting one.
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Well it's super easy to open this phone so it's not that big of a deal.
And check out witrigs.com, they seem to have good quality parts and have a replacement battery for this phone. I took the plunge and bought a new screen since I cracked mine real bad but it hasnt arrived yet, I'll be posting a review on it when it comes.
Actually I do not think, that the voltage would be such a large issue, as the voltage of a lion battery is changing constantly with its charge level, there probably is a voltage regulator of some sort in place anyway. I think that software would be the bigger problem, as phone manufacturers probably don't want you to make there phones better instead of buying their new ones
this might interest you
Anarchy16 said:
this might interest you
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i personally changed nexus 5 battery with Lg G2 battery, no issue in charging or voltage difference and backup is excellent although When i check with AIDA 64 Battery info showing 2300mah but i know backup is improved and as like 3000mah battery,
and also changed OP3 battery with OP3T No issue at all
Hayatzada said:
i personally changed nexus 5 battery with Lg G2 battery, no issue in charging or voltage difference and backup is excellent although When i check with AIDA 64 Battery info showing 2300mah but i know backup is improved and as like 3000mah battery,
and also changed OP3 battery with OP3T No issue at all
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Can you link me to which battery you bought?
and the ROM you are using?
Any software mods done to make it support the battery?
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Can you link me to which battery you bought?
and the ROM you are using?
Any software mods done to make it support the battery?
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for which phone?
no need for software side
Hayatzada said:
for which phone?
no need for software side
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OnePlus 3
How come some users reported it as not working but works for you. Maybe old firmware?
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How come some users reported it as not working but works for you. Maybe old firmware?
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