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It doesn't look like anyone has posted the full review yet, so here you go.
Anandtech Review
Turns out the issue with performance was actually due to new drivers, which allow for the full suite of benchmarks to be run. As a result, the CPU gets throttled after all that torture testing.
The new benchmarks, done without running the full suite, are posted in the review.
OMG. The battery life IS atrocious. Lol.
Yeah the battery really is bad. Its the most concerning issue right now for me as I debate whether or not to pull the trigger on this. My biggest concern is the cellular talk time and the wifi hotspot time. Those things can't really be blamed on the cpu thermal throttling issues as neither are CPU intensive tasks. Would a software update really even have the potential to fix those particular benchmarks?
EDIT: Unless the radio drivers are just really poor? That might explain the bad benchmarks on web browsing too since data would be in use the entire time for those benchmarks as well. Maybe then there is hope for a software improvement to battery life? I really hate buying things based on what they might be able to do in the future vs what I know they can do now
TheSopranos16 said:
Yeah the battery really is bad. Its the most concerning issue right now for me as I debate whether or not to pull the trigger on this. My biggest concern is the cellular talk time and the wifi hotspot time. Those things can't really be blamed on the cpu thermal throttling issues as neither are CPU intensive tasks. Would a software update really even have the potential to fix those particular benchmarks?
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Not if you want to fry your internals. Lol.
I'm guessing that the heat cannot dissipate effectively because of the screen on the front which is emanating heat, and the damn wireless inductive charging pad which is, in my mind, like a blanket. And I'm not even sure how effective glass is at displacing heat when couple with plastic.
But actually, cellular talk does release heat. Have you not noticed your phone getting hot when talking for extended periods of time? I believe the radio chip gets hot, maybe not necessarily the CPU. Regardless of where the heat is coming from, however, the sensors may still pick up on it. *shrugs*.
I'd advise you to wait 3 ~ 4 weeks if you can. Don't waste your time being the early adopter and wasting time dealing with early-release issues.
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I'd advise you to wait 3 ~ 4 weeks if you can. Don't waste your time being the early adopter and wasting time dealing with early-release issues.
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Well, every bad for a good we say where I'm from.
Looks like a whole bunch of us are gonna wait for exactly that.
On the review, keep in mind that we're not sure what version of the software all those test units use. Probably an unfinished version..
It hasn't really come together for me...
- No 32GB or Micro SD
- Poor battery life still, the update hasn't fixed it
- Poor benchmark results
I wanted to buy cause I thought it would be a bargain powerhouse but in the end it is obvious why the thing is so cheap. I'll just wait for my upgrade in April and get the GS4 if that is any good but until then my GS2 is doing just fine.
Seems fine.. compared to the Galaxy Nexus, which I regularly get 2 days at at time out of, the battery rates about the same, so no worries for me.
well, iv been "forced" to wait now, i was trying to order earlier today in the UK, but maybe it was a good thing i didnt get it yet
Well the "battery" test involves using chrome so...chrome sucks lot of power
not realy a good battery test imho
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Well the "battery" test involves using chrome so...chrome sucks lot of power
not realy a good battery test imho
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Agreed. Chrome really isn't ready for prime time in my experience. Even on my Nexus 7, I use dolphin and its much smoother and faster than Chrome.
So even if we throw out the browser tests because of Chrome, why the low talk times compared to other phones with smaller batteries?
My take away is:
Software - Great
Design - Great
Performance - Good, could get better with kernels
Camera - Par
Battery Life - Par
More realistic than the sky high expectations set by everyone for a $350 off-contract phone.
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It hasn't really come together for me...
- No 32GB or Micro SD
- Poor battery life still, the update hasn't fixed it
- Poor benchmark results
I wanted to buy cause I thought it would be a bargain powerhouse but in the end it is obvious why the thing is so cheap. I'll just wait for my upgrade in April and get the GS4 if that is any good but until then my GS2 is doing just fine.
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I'm sorry but benchmarks mean sweet FA. My GNex is faster in actual usage than my One X although the One X is 3 times faster in Quadrant. Battery life is completely subject to usage - I don't believe their graphs as my One X is pitiful compared to my Nexus. Whereas me Nexus would be at 80%+ at this time of day my One X is currently sitting at 62% as I type with the same minimal work day usage
Really wanted this phone, but there are a number of areas that mean quite a lot to me to be honest, it hasn't really delivered:-
1. Battery life - no getting away from it, its poor. Marginally better than the GNex but no so much you would notice, despite a bigger battery.
2. Camera quality - Yes again, its better (not difficult), but somehow, it just isn't as good as it could be. Slightly slow shutter speed, average quality.
3. Audio quality - We haven't yet seen the full score with that, but again, the consensus seems to be "average"
4. Storage capacity - even less than the GNex (8/16 vs 16/32). We don't all have access to 4G internet and no limits to store all of our files in the cloud.
Now, yes I appreciate this is really nit-picking but I'm not really unhappy with the performance of my GNex, and it will still get the update. It is not slow, or choppy, and as such, with the values of the GNex how they stand, I'm reluctant to fork out £150 to upgrade to a phone, which no doubt is an upgrade, but not one you'll notice very easily.
As it stands, I'm thinking that vanilla android alone is not enough to make it a worthwhile swap over something like an HTC One X+, despite the price difference. OK the N4 has a faster CPU and more RAM, but I'm not much of games player, but it has a better screen, camera, sound quality and more storage. Or a Galaxy Note which is just as fast, much better battery life, bigger screen, expandable, better camera etc.
I can see why this phone is cheaper than the competition TBH. I am a big fan of Vanilla Android, but there can be no denying it plays second fiddle on *most* specs (all but RAM, CPU and , possibly screen).
BUT, I'll probably still get one, LOL.
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I'm sorry but benchmarks mean sweet FA. My GNex is faster in actual usage than my One X although the One X is 3 times faster in Quadrant. Battery life is completely subject to usage - I don't believe their graphs as my One X is pitiful compared to my Nexus. Whereas me Nexus would be at 80%+ at this time of day my One X is currently sitting at 62% as I type with the same minimal work day usage
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Yeh one thing that puzzles me is they have the LTE One X topping the charts for most of the battery tests alongside the iPhone. However, wasn't the One X knocked for only having a 1800 mAH battery and poor battery life? Or was that only for the Tegra One X?
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Yeh one thing that puzzles me is they have the LTE One X topping the charts for most of the battery tests alongside the iPhone. However, wasn't the One X knocked for only having a 1800 mAH battery and poor battery life? Or was that only for the Tegra One X?
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Thoughtful said:
Yeh one thing that puzzles me is they have the LTE One X topping the charts for most of the battery tests alongside the iPhone. However, wasn't the One X knocked for only having a 1800 mAH battery and poor battery life? Or was that only for the Tegra One X?
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I should really qualify my last statement with I'm currently running the JB test build from HTC (as I'm a member of Elevate) so it's not on the final build but even on ICS it was poor compared to my Nexus. I can't see me having any issues with the N4 as I don't game/listen to music on my phone - it's purely a communication tool so email/FB/Twitter/SMSs/calls is the order of the day for me
Benchmarking wise the Nexus 4 is a joke. People were talking about this miraculous ota that will make it better but nothing happened. The camera isn't among the best and battery life sucks. Jeez, iPhone 5 with LTE is way better than the 3G Nexus 4. We can hate on Apple as much as we want but sometimes they get the job done way better than android makers/vendors.
I wanted this phone so bad but now I can wait to see what happens.
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The sad part is tests rarely reflect reality, people get poor battery life on the iPhone 5 despite the controlled tests suggesting it should have excellent battery life, moral of the story is YMMV, its not as cut and dry as raw data correlating to reproducible performance. The benchmarks aren't great so there is one criteria left and that is how it performs in real world usage cause I'm not going to benchmarking like a maniac as it serves no benefit, as I actually want to use my phone. I'd say it passes that criteria well from numerous reviews. Camera quality (video) is reportedly improved though have to wait for Anandtech to update the review and upload new videos. I'll be getting mine in December wanna wait for some cases and then pull the trigger on the purchase
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Benchmarking wise the Nexus 4 is a joke. People were talking about this miraculous ota that will make it better but nothing happened. The camera isn't among the best and battery life sucks. Jeez, iPhone 5 with LTE is way better than the 3G Nexus 4. We can hate on Apple as much as we want but sometimes they get the job done way better than android makers/vendors.
I wanted this phone so bad but now I can wait to see what happens.
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Benchmarking wise benchmarking doesn't have to do with anything. Jesus.....
I'm assuming all these reports of poor battery life include Google Now being enabled. I know its a key feature on JB(4.1/4.2) but I use it on CM10 now and its a HUGE battery drainer. When i turn it off, my battery life is markedly better. I'm assuming if you turn it off with the N4 you'll see better battery life.
I was very excited about the N5 for months. I'm still using a GNex, so I was looking forward to the upgrade. I was actually on the Play Store today within minutes of the phone going on sale, ready to buy the 32bg model. But before I dropped $400, I wanted to check one thing - is the battery user replaceable. It's not, and I didn't buy the phone.
Now before you say just get an external battery, let me explain. I travel very frequently, flying at least 6x per year or more. Thus, my needs are a little different than most. I currently have a 4000mah battery for the GNex that can get me through a 12 hour day of heavy internet, game, and screen usage. I also carry a spare just in case (although I've only needed it once - it was there). The external battery just doesn't provide the portability I need.
So now I'm left with one of these choices:
1. Get a TMo or Google S4 (so I can use CM) - around $450 used
2. Get a G2 Korean Edition (sdcard and removable battery) - $800 new
3. Wait for the S5
Right now, I'm heavily leaning towards option 3. It will do many things better than the N5 for maybe $250 more. I still love the GNex, and I have no overwhelming need to upgrade now. Still though, I had high hopes for the N5. Why did Google have to go with LG instead of Samsung...
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Why were you on the Play Store? It was obvious Nexus will not have the removable battery and probably never will. Look elsewhere.
All I can say is, Google (or anyone, while we're at it) can never please everyone in this world.
Maybe the device is not for you. It's $349, it's cheap and it gets the jobs done for most of those who loves the Nexus series.
Wait until some DIY videos coming on YouTube to teach you how to replace battery for N5
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Maybe you need a tablet with a large battery instead of a phone for extended gaming lol.
3,000mAh on 16 GB was just a rumour squashed after FCC filings were released and Nexus 4 didn't have a removable battery.. so likelihoods of this having one were slim :|
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Why were you on the Play Store? It was obvious Nexus will not have the removable battery and probably never will. Look elsewhere.
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Actually, from the pics, it looked like the back was removable. It doesn't resemble the N4 at all.
Lancez said:
Wait until some DIY videos coming on YouTube to teach you how to replace battery for N5
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I doubt I'll be able to swap in an airport terminal.
ranadylt said:
All I can say is, Google (or anyone, while we're at it) can never please everyone in this world.
Maybe the device is not for you. It's $349, it's cheap and it gets the jobs done for most of those who loves the Nexus series.
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I 100% agree. The N5 is a steal at $350/$400. Unfortunately, it doesn't meet my needs.
Maybe a power pack? I don't have it but I heard some people are using power pack on N4
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Lancez said:
Maybe a power pack? I don't have it but I heard some people are using power pack on N4
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Kind of kills the portability, at least for me. I just want the ability to put an extended battery in the phone and not worry about carrying two things at once.
SO get a G2 with a 3000+ battery. Kitkat will be out sooon for it. Actually Im very happy with the G2!!
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Kind of kills the portability, at least for me. I just want the ability to put an extended battery in the phone and not worry about carrying two things at once.
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May be a case with attached battery.. Or else wait. Now many companies doesn't provide replaceable battery except for Samsung.
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Kind of kills the portability, at least for me. I just want the ability to put an extended battery in the phone and not worry about carrying two things at once.
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Don't be in a hurry..wait for some battery/screen time reports here. If you can go a whole day with power to spare, who cares if the battery is fixed? The combination in this unit may surprise you. If you're already convinced you need a replaceable cell, obviously not the phone for you. And that's fine, too.
jmill75 said:
SO get a G2 with a 3000+ battery. Kitkat will be out sooon for it. Actually Im very happy with the G2!!
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For an extra $150, I could get the Korean version - removable battery and microSD support. But $800 is ALOT to drop on a phone. Regular G2 without removable battery is no better than an N5 to me, except it costs about $200 more.
I have the same issue, just like you I own a GNex still, how I fixed my problem is owning an additional spare battery and keep it in my wallet.
Unfortunately Google has gone in the direction of non-removable batteries since the N4 and the same with this new device, I had to look else where for extra power. since I can kill both of my batteries 2 x 1750 mAh within 6 hours if I was really bored lol.
As of now, I picked up a 11,600 mAh power bank. yes it's bulky and and an additional thing to carry but it came with a 2 Amp supply usb plug. and I charge quickly with that socket. it cuts my charge time down near 40%. so when I'm low I throw it on that and within 20 minutes I get 30% easily. just put down your phone for a coffee break, it won't kill you
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Don't be in a hurry..wait for some battery/screen time reports here. If you can go a whole day with power to spare, who cares if the battery is fixed? The combination in this unit may surprise you. If you're already convinced you need a replaceable cell, obviously not the phone for you. And that's fine, too.
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Trust me, delays at the airport will kill a 2300mah battery. And some don't have any outlets available to recharge.
I have a morphie battery pack on my gs3. The phone fits in it like a case. Maybe that would suit your needs.
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it doesn't meet my needs.
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this thread is full of win win win
In this day and age, the need for a removable battery is becoming a bit unnecessary IMO. For $50 or less you can easily find a separate rechargeable battery to carry with you that can provide anywhere from 6000mAh to 10000mAh battery and not just one device-specific battery would; it would use a traditional USB port so you can use it for other devices as well, and allow for the ability to power/recharge something like the Nexus 5 for days on end or multiple recharges over several days time to extend your usage.
I'd love to have a Nexus 5, really, but I won't bother and the primary reason is (again) no expandable storage. I appreciate that everyone at Google believes in "the cloud" and I really hate that phrase, it's client-server and has been for 50+ years now, just calling it "the cloud" means nothing to me in the long run.
But I prefer local storage, even though I have 18,000+ songs sitting on my Google Play account I still have a few thousand of them on the microSD card in my LG Optimus G for local playback, and I'm not really interested in having everything in "the cloud" anyway.
Not having a removable battery in the Nexus 5 isn't even a consideration for me anymore, hasn't been for a long time because I have a nice little 4-AA battery charger I use with 4 high capacity (2600mAh) AA rechargeables - the other benefit is that even if those were to die on me at some point I can always get AA batteries most anywhere.
Just my $.02 I suppose...
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Still though, I had high hopes for the N5. Why did Google have to go with LG instead of Samsung...
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Because Samsung is moving away from making devices for anyone but themselves, and according to recent reports, they're actually working towards a custom version of Android for their own specific devices - they may even end up creating an entirely new OS for their own devices and just move away from Android completely, aka Tizen which is still being developed.
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Trust me, delays at the airport will kill a 2300mah battery. And some don't have any outlets available to recharge.
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Then you need to carry a power bank. I mean, if you're going to carry another cell around anyway to swap, why not carry one that truly buys you days of power, only double or triple a regular cell's thickness, and not need to take off a cover?
Well according to this video it seems that the metal body (which contains the sapphire lens) and the 3400 mAh battery are compatible with the original one plus 3. However we need a software tweak to change the battery capacity as seen by the system.
Anyone with any source to buy either the battery or the lens can list it here ( I shall edit the main post to include the links)
I know that one plus has officially 'not condoned' the swapping of batteries. However as a person who praises their business decision but doesn't like their defocus on products I say my moto is also #NeverSettle. I want to see what my current phone can do with these upgrades.
The battery mod doesn't seem dangerous if someone literally hard swapped it without any software tweak but I'm pretty sure a developer can make a tweak for software ? if not please explain why.. It will help us DIY people understand better
The new body is up for grabs anyway if someone can list the sources. Yes it might not be available now but just like OPO and OPO2 parts we maybe able to upgrade in the future
I hope if some major dev has both fones he can come up with this. That would be huge!
Exactly. I don't want to bother devs a lot as they are already facing so much difficulty but I think anyone with a one plus 3T source should be able to port it maybe.That 400maH seems less but for light to medium users it's actually quite an upgrade.
I'll try to post on 3T forums to see if anyone can get it done.
I'm also currently looking for that back metal body. That sapphire lens is better than what Apple provides and DAMN that solved a lot of problems
The selfie camera is also another step but then again that will push the devs too much. Who knows maybe except for the processor we might just replicate the 3T.
watch this video
Um that's the one that I have posted in my original post. Jerry rig everything one right?
Well just goes to say that one plus has made the batteries similar enough to allow it to be used in OP3 Hardware wise.
waiting for any developer to provide any insight.
meanwhile eBay hunt for the rest of us.
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Um that's the one that I have posted in my original post. Jerry rig everything one right?
Well just goes to say that one plus has made the batteries similar enough to allow it to be used in OP3 Hardware wise.
waiting for any developer to provide any insight.
meanwhile eBay hunt for the rest of us.
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Sorry I didn't watched the video mentioned in OP. ?
Yea it's software related so may b a dev can fix this
Seems like my next mod for the OP3
Also, unless the 3400mAh battery has a bigger voltage, I think it could be used without problem on the OP3, even without changing anything, and take advantage of the bigger capacity.
Hello there, I am pretty new to this forum so please advise me if there is anything wrong with this thread.
I own a oneplus 3 pretty much since the release date, and I have been very happy with it, except for the not optimal battery life.
Now, as you can take from the heading of this thread, I am thinking about rebleacing the back of my oneplus 3 with a larger one, idealy one that covers up the battery bump, so I can fit in a larger battery. Additionaly I probably will need to transfer the antennas, and do something about the speaker and microphone ports.
I would like to make the back out of aluminum via a cnc service online, but for prototyping a 3D printed solution would probably be sufficient. The other question is, where to find a battery that is larger than that in the oneplus 3s standart battery, but still beeing able to fit it inside the space made availible by the new hull.
I would love to hear your thoughts on this project, especially considering problems, that could occure.
I hope this project is interessting for some of you, and we can make the op3 even more awesome.
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Hello there, I am pretty new to this forum so please advise me if there is anything wrong with this thread.
I own a oneplus 3 pretty much since the release date, and I have been very happy with it, except for the not optimal battery life.
Now, as you can take from the heading of this thread, I am thinking about rebleacing the back of my oneplus 3 with a larger one, idealy one that covers up the battery bump, so I can fit in a larger battery. Additionaly I probably will need to transfer the antennas, and do something about the speaker and microphone ports.
I would like to make the back out of aluminum via a cnc service online, but for prototyping a 3D printed solution would probably be sufficient. The other question is, where to find a battery that is larger than that in the oneplus 3s standart battery, but still beeing able to fit it inside the space made availible by the new hull.
I would love to hear your thoughts on this project, especially considering problems, that could occure.
I hope this project is interessting for some of you, and we can make the op3 even more awesome.
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Maybe you could get a 3t battery and replace it. It's bigger in capacity,but same in size. Like Jerry did here
dulexetina said:
Maybe you could get a 3t battery and replace it. It's bigger in capacity,but same in size. Like Jerry did here
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That wouldn't work since the battery is different voltage when charged fully. You're gonna have to find a 4.35V (max voltage, I think the nominal voltage is 3.8V) li-ion battery that is the same size in thickness and height but has deeper depth.
Anyways this project sounds like it could have some potential... I'd be really down to see a CNC machines aluminum back cover that can accomodate a larger battery. I would buy one in a heartbeat
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That wouldn't work since the battery is different voltage when charged fully. You're gonna have to find a 4.35V (max voltage, I think the nominal voltage is 3.8V) li-ion battery that is the same size in thickness and height but has deeper depth.
Anyways this project sounds like it could have some potential... I'd be really down to see a CNC machines aluminum back cover that can accomodate a larger battery. I would buy one in a heartbeat
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Some guys did the swap in the lg nexus 5-they placed inside a lg g2s battery which is 3000mah vs 2300mah! It worked for them,so i think there is a chance for this swap also. Maybe we can also mess around with the kernel to make it work. All of this sounds easier than making new back cover
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Some guys did the swap in the lg nexus 5-they placed inside a lg g2s battery which is 3000mah vs 2300mah! It worked for them,so i think there is a chance for this swap also. Maybe we can also mess around with the kernel to make it work. All of this sounds easier than making new back cover
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That's because the Nexus 5 and LG G2 batteries were the same voltage. This has already been tried and at first it didn't charge fully, then OnePlus implemented a safety feature that detects when a OP3T battery is installed and doesn't allow the phone to boot. We could make a kernel that charges to a higher voltage (the opposite of bedalus' BLX mod in his moxie kernel) but it could be dangerous and isn't worth the risk.
Little off topic but any good quality replacement batteries out there I can replace with?
I do love this idea but there's no way to avoid opening your phone, so be very hard to get everyone wanting one.
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Little off topic but any good quality replacement batteries out there I can replace with?
I do love this idea but there's no way to avoid opening your phone, so be very hard to get everyone wanting one.
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Well it's super easy to open this phone so it's not that big of a deal.
And check out witrigs.com, they seem to have good quality parts and have a replacement battery for this phone. I took the plunge and bought a new screen since I cracked mine real bad but it hasnt arrived yet, I'll be posting a review on it when it comes.
Actually I do not think, that the voltage would be such a large issue, as the voltage of a lion battery is changing constantly with its charge level, there probably is a voltage regulator of some sort in place anyway. I think that software would be the bigger problem, as phone manufacturers probably don't want you to make there phones better instead of buying their new ones
this might interest you
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this might interest you
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i personally changed nexus 5 battery with Lg G2 battery, no issue in charging or voltage difference and backup is excellent although When i check with AIDA 64 Battery info showing 2300mah but i know backup is improved and as like 3000mah battery,
and also changed OP3 battery with OP3T No issue at all
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i personally changed nexus 5 battery with Lg G2 battery, no issue in charging or voltage difference and backup is excellent although When i check with AIDA 64 Battery info showing 2300mah but i know backup is improved and as like 3000mah battery,
and also changed OP3 battery with OP3T No issue at all
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Can you link me to which battery you bought?
and the ROM you are using?
Any software mods done to make it support the battery?
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Can you link me to which battery you bought?
and the ROM you are using?
Any software mods done to make it support the battery?
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for which phone?
no need for software side
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for which phone?
no need for software side
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OnePlus 3
How come some users reported it as not working but works for you. Maybe old firmware?
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How come some users reported it as not working but works for you. Maybe old firmware?
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How'll i make you believe me
i am responsible for my deeds not for what the other user do
I have been using P10 Plus (6/128 GB) for a day, and I am trying really hard to like it. I haven't found all the good/bad points yet but the list of bad things is already kind of outweighing the list of good things. Were my expectations really just too high?
These are really just my opinions, and you are free to disagree. Even I might change my mind if there are really good reasons to!
I might as well add that paid about $860 (in Norway) for my P10 Plus while Galaxy S8+ costs "slightly more" (about $1,000). I just feel like I got so little in return for the price I paid.
I have to decide by tomorrow anyway whether to keep this device or return it, and I am currently leaning towards returning it.
Thanks for any tips, advices, opinions, etc.
Good things:
Responsive fingerprint reader on the front side, unlocks screen pretty much instantly.
Has a nice shape (like an iPhone 7). No annoying sharp edges except at the bottom holes for connectors, where I support the device with my pinky finger.
Lots of camera settings.
My device luckily has UFS 2.1.
Pretty good WiFi speed (measured more than 200 Mbps during internet speed test).
The DAC's quality is okay (not very good). A little bit of noise when using my sensitive in-ear headphones, but it's very bearable. This is only a "good" point because it's an upgrade from my old phone.
Bad things:
I already found some sluggish menus on day one.
Somewhat bad performance when taking photos and shooting videos, even playing back videos I captured is somewhat choppy.
The device gets pretty hot during "normal" (in my opinion light) use, and really hot while charging and during "heavy" (in my opinion normal) use.
Seems like the battery drains more quickly than I expected as well (larger battery does not make it much or any better than P10) so that I still need to bring an extra battery with me if I intend to use mobile data and GPS.
The swiping on the fingerprint reader is a bit of a hit and miss because it might register a tap which means "back" (or exit).
Photos taken and saved as JPEG look bad. RAW images look quite a bit better but it takes seconds to save each image.
My GFXBench result is pretty bad compared to other devices.
Nitpicking:
The edge of the screen protector is so annoying I want to take it off. Note: If you do it, you might want to apply oleophobic coating.
I wish the fingerprint sensor indentation was a bit less deep, because it makes the swiping motion feel less comfortable. The screen protector is probably most of the reason though.
I was never able to transfer app data (only apps themselves) from my old device using any method suggested by Huawei. The thing that did work was a backup/restore using adb.
USB 2 is pretty slow after getting used to USB 3.
The device sometimes thinks that I am using a knuckle gesture when I am using the tip of my finger.
sometimes very laggy also. And some apps not compatible with the camera.
Turns out that I am stuck with this device due to the shop's no-return policy on phones. I might as well begin training my mind to like the device. Won't feel guilty about rooting and trying custom ROMs now either.
@patriotzhou I think after a couple days, I am noticing the stuttering less for some reason..
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Turns out that I am stuck with this device due to the shop's no-return policy on phones. I might as well begin training my mind to like the device. Won't feel guilty about rooting and trying custom ROMs now either.
@patriotzhou I think after a couple days, I am noticing the stuttering less for some reason..
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Camera send not so good to me, maybe I don't know how to use it
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I have been using P10 Plus (6/128 GB) for a day, and I am trying really hard to like it. I haven't found all the good/bad points yet but the list of bad things is already kind of outweighing the list of good things. Were my expectations really just too high?
Bad things:
The device gets pretty hot during "normal" (in my opinion light) use, and really hot while charging and during "heavy" (in my opinion normal) use.
Seems like the battery drains more quickly than I expected as well (larger battery does not make it much or any better than P10) so that I still need to bring an extra battery with me if I intend to use mobile data and GPS.
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Pretty much this phone is unusable due these 2 things, battery life is poor as AF, and from my perspective, Huawei messed up EMUI 5.1 really hard.
Probably an update would fix it, but we don't have ETA yet.
I will return back the P10 Plus because I think is not worth it, and I will buy a Mate 9 Pro that is virtually the same device, but battery life is so much better.
@nougn Which firmware are you on? In terms of battery life the phone may not be the best, but from my experience its also not bad either. 6 hours DOT should be possible unless you are a heavy gamer. However what you said about the device getting hot that does sound like it may have faulty hardware, I'd be careful with that. You should grab an app monitoring CPU and battery temperatures. If you come to the conclusion that the device is getting warmer than it should I'd contact Huawei on the matter. What I find most bizarre is that you say the performance is laggy at times, I never experienced even just the slightest lag no matter what I do, it is smooth as silk in every situation. Maybe another indication for faulty hardware.......? On a side note: the price you paid seems really high, a lot of commercial seller on ebay offer it for a lot less than that... but anyhow if you really wanted to get rid of the device you could always sell it on ebay or something, no? So you're never actually "stuck" with a device
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@nougn Which firmware are you on? In terms of battery life the phone may not be the best, but from my experience its also not bad either. 6 hours DOT should be possible unless you are a heavy gamer. However what you said about the device getting hot that does sound like it may have faulty hardware, I'd be careful with that. You should grab an app monitoring CPU and battery temperatures. If you come to the conclusion that the device is getting warmer than it should I'd contact Huawei on the matter. What I find most bizarre is that you say the performance is laggy at times, I never experienced even just the slightest lag no matter what I do, it is smooth as silk in every situation. Maybe another indication for faulty hardware.......? On a side note: the price you paid seems really high, a lot of commercial seller on ebay offer it for a lot less than that... but anyhow if you really wanted to get rid of the device you could always sell it on ebay or something, no? So you're never actually "stuck" with a device
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This device always works in high temperatures, and is really easy for it to get hot. Use the camera more than 3 minutes and it will start to feel uncomfortable on hand.
I had the same experience, poor battery life and device most of the time hot. I checked the temperatures and is around 30°C on stand by, and after some minutes of WhatsApp and news, it was reaching 40°C, which is not normal at all, when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
I'm used to stick with cold devices and is one of the first things I noticed when I used this device, and is a pretty common problem among many users. Most of the people would say that is only "warm", but I had the Mate 9 as well, with the same specs, and trust me, it was an ice cube the whole time.
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when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
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One has to keep in mind though that temperatures like that are impossible to reach in summer (unless its a very cold summer), the device can never be cooler than the air surrounding it
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One has to keep in mind though that temperatures like that are impossible to reach in summer (unless its a very cold summer), the device can never be cooler than the air surrounding it
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Well, I'm talking about my room, which has air conditioning, and I just bought the P10 Plus and today I returned it back.
Problem solved, I got my money back, and I'm trying to see which phone to get, but pretty much I don' t like what I see in the market now.
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This device always works in high temperatures, and is really easy for it to get hot. Use the camera more than 3 minutes and it will start to feel uncomfortable on hand.
I had the same experience, poor battery life and device most of the time hot. I checked the temperatures and is around 30°C on stand by, and after some minutes of WhatsApp and news, it was reaching 40°C, which is not normal at all, when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
I'm used to stick with cold devices and is one of the first things I noticed when I used this device, and is a pretty common problem among many users. Most of the people would say that is only "warm", but I had the Mate 9 as well, with the same specs, and trust me, it was an ice cube the whole time.
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The standby drain is crazy and as you said the phone gets really hot when using the camera more than a few minutes.
Also one more problem is when the phone reach certain temperature the wide aperture effect in the gallery will stop working..
It's a pity since I like this phone in many ways and the camera is great.
But if Huawei don't fix it (very) soon i may be "forced" to sell it and get another one..
Almost regret that I sold my old Mate 8..
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The standby drain is crazy and as you said the phone gets really hot when using the camera more than a few minutes.
Also one more problem is when the phone reach certain temperature the wide aperture effect in the gallery will stop working..
It's a pity since I like this phone in many ways and the camera is great.
But if Huawei don't fix it (very) soon i may be "forced" to sell it and get another one..
Almost regret that I sold my old Mate 8..
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Today I returned my P10 Plus, for me there's no excuse to pay so much for a phone that has basic problems.
I will see if I get a Mate 9 Pro or any other phone, but I'm kind of picky when getting a new device.
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Thank you for your advices! The current version is VKY-L29C432B150 (latest).
Sorry for the late response. I have been traveling for the past few days.
I decided to bring this phone with me on vacation to Japan where it is currently very humid and it feels like 33+ degrees C (91+ degrees F) in the sun. Trying to use mobile data, GPS and Google Maps is not exactly pleasant for my hand. The worst part is trying to take some photos because the device's temperature gets uncomfortably high for my hand. Will try to measure the temperatures next time I go out!
I am also really glad that I brought an extra battery, although the output of the extra battery (per port) is just enough (2.4A) to keep the device's battery percentage stable while using mobile data and GPS (goes up when idle).
I also guessed hardware defect, but it now seems like I am not the only one with problems. I really hope that Huawei can fix some things in the software, including the heat issue.
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Thank you for your advices! The current version is VKY-L29C432B150 (latest).
Sorry for the late response. I have been traveling for the past few days.
I decided to bring this phone with me on vacation to Japan where it is currently very humid and it feels like 33+ degrees C (91+ degrees F) in the sun. Trying to use mobile data, GPS and Google Maps is not exactly pleasant for my hand. The worst part is trying to take some photos because the device's temperature gets uncomfortably high for my hand. Will try to measure the temperatures next time I go out!
I am also really glad that I brought an extra battery, although the output of the extra battery (per port) is just enough (2.4A) to keep the device's battery percentage stable while using mobile data and GPS (goes up when idle).
I also guessed hardware defect, but it now seems like I am not the only one with problems. I really hope that Huawei can fix some things in the software, including the heat issue.
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You should post your experiences in the battery thread, so it could have more visibility and people can start to acknowledge this, would be really nice from you to do it.
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Different screens
The P10 plus has a IPS LCD screen
The Mate 9 pro has a AMO-LED screen
maybe that adds to the difference in SOT for the two Huawei devices...
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The P10 plus has a IPS LCD screen
The Mate 9 pro has a AMO-LED screen
maybe that adds to the difference in SOT for the two Huawei devices...
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I'm sorry, but there is no way that the screen technology is the decisive factor between 3 and 6 hours SOT.
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adds to the difference
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decisive factor
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That's how you choose to read my post - but not what I wrote, IMHO
My point is to raise awareness about the different screen technologies, because I've seen more than one comparison where the two devices are said to use the same screen (probably because of same size and res.), but that is plain WRONG!
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That's how you choose to read my post - but not what I wrote, IMHO
My point is to raise awareness about the different screen technologies, because I've seen more than one comparison where the two devices are said to use the same screen (probably because of same size and res.), but that is plain WRONG!
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I understand your point, but still having AMOLED display means nothing in 2017. You can see the HTC U11 with LCD and has pretty goddamn battery life. You can have the normal Mate 9 with IPS and also has a really nice battery life. Right now screen technologies are really mature and it doesn't influence much (or at all) what kind is on a phone.
@Galaxo60
Point taken
Came from S8, I used it for a couple of months and now Im using P10 Plus.
Im more than happy now with P10+.
I have had my P10 Plus for about 2 months now and I can tell you I get around 5 hours of SOT with 1-2 of gaming. The battery stays at 100% for about 15 minutes regardless what I do and then begins to drop. Somehow form 70% downwards it starts to really slow its discharge rate. You might worry about this but the honest truth is that I can make it at the end of each day (around midnight) with around 15-20% battery left. For me this is more than enough as I recharge my phone every night.
I would suggest you stop worrying about your phone dying on you and just start using it. Also use Phone Manager once a day and you'll be good to go.
Hope it helps.