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Broke Tilt in half

So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?

wshader said:
So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?
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Check thi site, there is a manual how to dismantle kaiser. Could be helpful:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....smantling+%2f+Disassembling+Guides+HTC%2fETEN

Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing. And alot of steps missing to get it this way.

wshader said:
Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing.
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OMG, that had to hurt.

Yeah, kid was playing basketball and fell out of his pocket. I guess the kid has broke 4 phones this month... curve, tilt, 2 pantec duos. Told my friend to get him a $20 go-phone now lol. And use the savings to get me a tilt
I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)

wshader said:
Yeah, and I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)
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I hope u repair it. Wish u luck.

Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
I suggest trying to find one broken on ebay and using the 2 you have to make one working phone. Even a broken Tilt can run for $200 on ebay though.

Anyone notice that case has already been replaced at some stage as it has a camera hole (not standard for Tilts) a keyboard without the white part and no logo. Perhaps the replacement was weaker than the original one. If the O/P searches the forum here for LCD Screen replacements there's loads of links to different companies supplying parts for Kaiser variants. I have no experience using any of them though so cant suggest which ones are best.

@Planet Neo
Yeah I was thinking that but was hoping it wouldn't come to that. Would suck to spend $200 for parts just to find the motherboard is broke or something to that effect. Was hoping someone knew of a place to buy a new cable or had one to sell. Also was hoping someone with some experience could let me know if they think I'd need a new tilt assembly.
@Flying Kiwi
Lol, I used a picture from kaiser disassembly guide to show what i was referring to. It has the standard tilt case. I'll be taking pictures of what I have as soon as I have the phone in my possession.

Okay I assume that its going to be very hard to get the ribbon and you're going to need housing. I believe that it will be the same as making a new tilt, because the screen is as good as dead without the ribbon so all you could do is get new housing and a new screen and it should rack up about $150-200. Which in my opinion is much easier and faster and better than frustrating on getting a ribbon.
Just my 2 cents.
Kraize

Planetneo said:
Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
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I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S

Mysterious Stranger said:
I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S
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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.

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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.
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These things are made in Shenzhen so where you think the parts come from?
Stop talking &*%(* and I'll stop correcting your posts Instead of saying something is a fact say it's your opinion. It's not a 'rare' part - and they ship WORLDWIDE. It's not as if he'll get one from a local mom and pop store - it's gonna be mail order wherever you get it from and looking at the seller's feedback is a good judge - all my parts come from China - so why pay a middleman such as yourself extra $ just so it has a US stamp on the package?
Someone needs to act as quality control on your posts and it looks like it's gonna have to be me if you keep posting [email protected]
M.S

how hard is it to put a new case/housing/body on the g1?

mine's gotten pretty beat up. how hard is it to a) find replacements for and b) replace the:
housing/body
digitizer
trackball
and could a noob do it? the only other device I've done a case swap on was a psp 3000.
and I don't have a warranty, so that isn't an issue.

and how do I know if something like this is authentic?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Housin...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a586212fb

gonintendo said:
and how do I know if something like this is authentic?
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I don't think you could just walk into any store and find a housing for the G1 or nearly any phone for that matter. Maybe a wireless shop that deals with all types of phones might be able to get there hands on it.
As far as knowing whether that ebay ad is authentic, you really can't say. I would contact the seller and ask him personally. Also, 22 bucks isn't bad at all.

anyone else?

I'm also interested in this issue as I want to switch from black to white. Anybody?

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It has to say OEM in the description (original equipment manufacturer) if you want it to be authentic. Here's a link on dissasembly. It's straight from HTC

mejorguille said:
It has to say OEM in the description (original equipment manufacturer) if you want it to be authentic. Here's a link on dissasembly. It's straight from HTC
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thank you.
has anyone here ever done it? any tips/tricks/warnings about doing it?

Not too hard, you just have to be really careful not to damage/remove internals xP

protomanez said:
Not too hard, you just have to be really careful not to damage/remove internals xP
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ooh, well I took apart a psp once for the same reason and I broke the connector for the screen's ribbon cable (apparently super glue is not a conductor b/c i was able to super glue it back on and it worked from then on) but I guess I now know to make sure to try moving the little lever in both directions and not to apply force.
If anyone has ever taken apart a psp, how does this compare to it?

gonintendo said:
ooh, well I took apart a psp once for the same reason and I broke the connector for the screen's ribbon cable (apparently super glue is not a conductor b/c i was able to super glue it back on and it worked from then on) but I guess I now know to make sure to try moving the little lever in both directions and not to apply force.
If anyone has ever taken apart a psp, how does this compare to it?
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bump please, I am interested in this as well... I have customized/built computers, fixed iphones, xbox remotes, xbox and xbox 360s ...not to mention took apart a TV, and a few laptops....
anything compareable in that list at all?
What would you rate the difficulty of replacing the entire housing on the G1 ? Please advise me..

I am getting ready to undertake this task as well. I ordered a complete replacement from Hong Kong OEM branded, the works. I will be documenting the process step by step, and may even make a youtube video, and link them here, to contribute to the HTC G1 community. It'll be at least 3 weeks before it comes, though, most likely. If you haven't done it by then, look for my work.

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I am getting ready to undertake this task as well. I ordered a complete replacement from Hong Kong OEM branded, the works. I will be documenting the process step by step, and may even make a youtube video, and link them here, to contribute to the HTC G1 community. It'll be at least 3 weeks before it comes, though, most likely. If you haven't done it by then, look for my work.
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I will be looking forward to that!...

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i was thinking about doing this but i never really got to it because none of the sellers had a manual on how to do it. ive taken apart ipods and whatnot but i love my g1 and i really dont want to mess it up :l.

Dropped captivate, screen had purple spots, then black :(

Hello
I recently dropped my Samsung Captivate. First time it had purple spots on the screen in 1 day the whole screen went purple and the next day the whole screen went black The sensor and everything else is working.
How do you think, what may be the issue of this? is the screen completely screwed or there may be another, less important damage.

Lejolasho said:
Hello
I recently dropped my Samsung Captivate. First time it had purple spots on the screen in 1 day the whole screen went purple and the next day the whole screen went black The sensor and everything else is working.
How do you think, what may be the issue of this? is the screen completely screwed or there may be another, less important damage.
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My guess is that you'll have to replace the digitaliser. You can do it yourself or contact mobiletechvideos.com for the job.
If you have any experience in it though, you can try opening your phone and see if anything isn't correctly connected.

BWolf56 said:
My guess is that you'll have to replace the digitaliser. You can do it yourself or contact mobiletechvideos.com for the job.
If you have any experience in it though, you can try opening your phone and see if anything isn't correctly connected.
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did you mean the whole lcd?

Pretty sure it would be easier to replace the digitizer + screen, since I think they're glued together on the captivate? (correct me if I'm wrong).
It's about $75. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Cap...izer-i896-AT-T-Galaxy-S-Display-/160787040070

Lejolasho said:
did you mean the whole lcd?
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Pretty sure it would be easier to replace the digitizer + screen, since I think they're glued together on the captivate? (correct me if I'm wrong).
It's about $75. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Cap...izer-i896-AT-T-Galaxy-S-Display-/160787040070
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You would have to replace both, yes.

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You would have to replace both, yes.
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At the cost of replace them both i can buy a captivate in better condition i did hope, that there could be another issue. thank you guys.

You can...? Please shoot me a link...haha .

x0ne215 said:
You can...? Please shoot me a link...haha .
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Yeah, I'd like to grab a spare if they are sitting that cheap now.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda app-developers app

As far as I've seen, the cheapest I got mine was $80. Bad idea, too many issues, wasted money. Buying anywhere but swappa they're about 150$+. Swappa has one for $135 (hoping to buy that one actually, but either have to wait a week and hope someone doesn't buy it, or sell my pantech crossover faster so I have the money haha).

x0ne215 said:
As far as I've seen, the cheapest I got mine was $80. Bad idea, too many issues, wasted money. Buying anywhere but swappa they're about 150$+. Swappa has one for $135 (hoping to buy that one actually, but either have to wait a week and hope someone doesn't buy it, or sell my pantech crossover faster so I have the money haha).
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You just have to put "i897" or similar as an ebay saved search that notifies you when new products matching that description are posted.
I bought 1 cappy for $60 from ebay seller alltechwholesale, out of Texas I think. In my experience, they do a good job inspecting the phones first so you know what your going to get. In my experience and many others, the phone arrived in better condition than described....Then I picked up two more sold together on ebay for $70 that were listed as one bad digitizer and the other bad charge port. I got them as parts phones. The one with the "bad digitizer" ended up being just a bad search button because the screen lifted on that corner a little. A 50 cent tube of adhesive fixed that. Then the second of the two just had a dirty charge port and a squirt of crc electronics cleaner fixed it...Now I have a main phone, a backup flashed to be identical, and a media device!!
After taking this phone completely apart a few times it gets pretty easy to see it really is a mini computer and most of the major parts can be bought on ebay for decent prices and replaced fairly easy....The ribbons that connect the various parts can bend and break easily so that is something to keep in mind. I broke the ribbon for the headphone jack assembly but a little hunting on ebay and I had one on it's way for $1.50 after shipping lol.

rmntruexjr said:
You just have to put "i897" or similar as an ebay saved search that notifies you when new products matching that description are posted.
I bought 1 cappy for $60 from ebay seller alltechwholesale, out of Texas I think. In my experience, they do a good job inspecting the phones first so you know what your going to get. In my experience and many others, the phone arrived in better condition than described....Then I picked up two more sold together on ebay for $70 that were listed as one bad digitizer and the other bad charge port. I got them as parts phones. The one with the "bad digitizer" ended up being just a bad search button because the screen lifted on that corner a little. A 50 cent tube of adhesive fixed that. Then the second of the two just had a dirty charge port and a squirt of crc electronics cleaner fixed it...Now I have a main phone, a backup flashed to be identical, and a media device!!
After taking this phone completely apart a few times it gets pretty easy to see it really is a mini computer and most of the major parts can be bought on ebay for decent prices and replaced fairly easy....The ribbons that connect the various parts can bend and break easily so that is something to keep in mind. I broke the ribbon for the headphone jack assembly but a little hunting on ebay and I had one on it's way for $1.50 after shipping lol.
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Haha yes, I can relate to the mini computer aspect. Just spent my day repairing about 8 hp Touchsmarts, the cappy compared to that, is a dream lmao. Much less to deal with . I planned on using the cappy I have now as a spare part phone anyway, unless I can somehow get it to work. But I didn't know about the whole ebay thing. I shall do that now, thanks a TON :fingers-crossed:
EDIT: Just checked alltechwholesale ebay store, SO MANY CAPPYS FOR SALE!!! All around the same price, seems they put it up for 0.99 and someone keeps jacking it up to $70 shortly after. My only thing -- I hate auctions . But great share and bookmarked

x0ne215 said:
Haha yes, I can relate to the mini computer aspect. Just spent my day repairing about 8 hp Touchsmarts, the cappy compared to that, is a dream lmao. Much less to deal with . I planned on using the cappy I have now as a spare part phone anyway, unless I can somehow get it to work. But I didn't know about the whole ebay thing. I shall do that now, thanks a TON :fingers-crossed:
EDIT: Just checked alltechwholesale ebay store, SO MANY CAPPYS FOR SALE!!! All around the same price, seems they put it up for 0.99 and someone keeps jacking it up to $70 shortly after. My only thing -- I hate auctions . But great share and bookmarked
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yeah, alltech is just auctions but I just took time to read conditions and saved a bunch and you'll find that they go for different prices depending on what's wrong and even depending on the day or time of day lol......That's why I suggested saving the search too. I use the ebay app and when there is new listings of my saved searches I get a notification so I go and look. If your quick, You can possibly snag a "buy it now" at a decent price depending on the condition your looking for. I really couldn't believe I ended up with 3 100% working phones and maybe I just got lucky, but I'd say it's worth a try lol.

I'd say it was a combination of good research, and amazing luck hahaha. But I do appreciate it a lot, thanks for the info, cheers

Lejolasho said:
At the cost of replace them both i can buy a captivate in better condition i did hope, that there could be another issue. thank you guys.
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Sorry we kind of got off the subject, But for the digitizer try what Bwolf said about the connections.
Once when I was testing the power button I soldered on my old cappy I didn't get one of the ribbons all the way on (i believe it was the ribbon near the power button), and the screen flashed a few different colors.
There is at least one probably more youtube vids with pointers on how to get the cappy apart in a way that wont do damage.

I know there's a tare-down guide here, and there was a YouTube video where someone replaced the screen, if I can find it on my history I'll edit this post

rmntruexjr said:
Sorry we kind of got off the subject, But for the digitizer try what Bwolf said about the connections.
Once when I was testing the power button I soldered on my old cappy I didn't get one of the ribbons all the way on (i believe it was the ribbon near the power button), and the screen flashed a few different colors.
There is at least one probably more youtube vids with pointers on how to get the cappy apart in a way that wont do damage.
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i have checked and now i am sure, that the screen is broken. I live in a state, that is not supported by paypal and and where can i buy used captivate for parts with my credit card?

The only place I can think of would be ebay, if you can find a seller who accepts things other than paypal. Or you can try craigslist.

Anybody think this prototype edition screen will work?

So I have had a Nexus 6 with a broken LCD sitting in a drawer for a while because screen prices (in addition to Motorola repair options) are much more than I would like, in addition to the phone running a custom ROM with an unlocked bootloader. So today I decided to look on ebay and screen prices are still pretty high, except this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Motorol...sh=item3d1e0d1aaf:g:8dkAAOSw8RJXCR70#viTabs_0
Looks like this guy got his hands on one of those prototype LCD assemblies. I'm not sure who would part out and sell one of these but, here it is. I was wondering if this was worth a try or if I should just leave it dead in my drawer. The dude doesn't seem to know what he is selling but, mentions the ribbon cable is a bit short. If anyone can guide me on this, I would appreciate it.
EDIT: Meant to say Prototype rather than Developer, my apologies. If a mod wants to come through and fix the title, that would be great.
Thanks, TriguyRN

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So I have had a Nexus 6 with a broken LCD sitting in a drawer for a while because screen prices (in addition to Motorola repair options) are much more than I would like, in addition to the phone running a custom ROM with an unlocked bootloader. So today I decided to look on ebay and screen prices are still pretty high, except this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Motorol...sh=item3d1e0d1aaf:g:8dkAAOSw8RJXCR70#viTabs_0
Looks like this guy got his hands on one of those prototype LCD assemblies. I'm not sure who would part out and sell one of these but, here it is. I was wondering if this was worth a try or if I should just leave it dead in my drawer. The dude doesn't seem to know what he is selling but, mentions the ribbon cable is a bit short. If anyone can guide me on this, I would appreciate it.
EDIT: Meant to say Prototype rather than Developer, my apologies. If a mod wants to come through and fix the title, that would be great.
Thanks, TriguyRN
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Assuming you can do the repair yourself, I would just shell out the extra bit of cash to get a legit LCD. But, if you want to take the risk to save a buck, nothing is holding you back. It did say something about flex cables being different, in which case you would have a bit of trouble. Cheers!

Can I swap a international motherboard n960f into a n960u frame?

I have a samsung galaxy note 9 on sprint currently, the phone was dropped and smashed but not too a unrepairable extent. I currently put a new battery, charger port, and wireless coil. The phone won't charge still unless I use my s20 ultra as a wireless charger which says its charging but I cannot get a light, vibration, or any screen activity so I'm guessing the motherboard is most likely toast. There is no water damage and I will be replacing the screen glass I was hoping I could get a image before I ordered one lol but the real question is the phone is on sprint I was wondering if I can purchase a N960F international model motherboard and use it in the N960u shell. I want exynos for the simplicity of rooting. Also The charger port I installed was off ifixit and labeled for the n960u, n960f, n960fd but read somewhere there's a difference in charging ports? Any information is greatly appreciated. This phone will most likely be used on AT&T

Does anybody have any insight on this issue?

I you dropped and made damage anything, i guess you might have the same issues, but otherwise if motherboard fits in place correctly it should work, the F variant is exynos ad should work with all networks, and sure you can root it.

No guarentee it will be a pin for pin swamp or that the subassembly components/firmware will be compatable.
I think it's unlikely to work.
You need someone that did it to know for sure otherwise it could be a big lick on you. Even if it's possible no guarantee the replacement mobo is good or won't be damaged during installation (think ESD). If you had all the major components you have little to lose otherwise you might be kicking a dead horse.
With that much damage buying a working one with the right configuration be a better bet...

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No guarentee it will be a pin for pin swamp or that the subassembly components/firmware will be compatable.
I think it's unlikely to work.
You need someone that did it to know for sure otherwise it could be a big lick on you. Even if it's possible no guarantee the replacement mobo is good or won't be damaged during installation (think ESD). If you had all the major components you have little to lose otherwise you might be kicking a dead horse.
With that much damage buying a working one with the right configuration be a better bet...
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I'm sure to be careful with my electronics, but you are right. Looking at tons of pictures the motherboards seem identical in size, all the parts I bought said they were compatible with both models ill be using all n960u parts other than the motherboard. I read somewhere the charger flex is different but I can't see or find any ones that are different, also same for the cameras. This will be a pretty sweet experiment I guess. If they screen works the cracks in the display aren't too bad that it wouldn't be usable. I'd save about 80$ (if I don't buy a bdot replacement) all in all spending about 200$ in replacement parts. Not too bad if you ask me. Considering it's my gfs old phone that she didn't end up paying off since it broke I don't think it'll be a bad deal
I'll be sure to update any progress I have the motherboard will be in around the 15th of march

I changed my mind, perhaps rubber conectors are different?

Alboooz said:
I changed my mind, perhaps rubber conectors are different?
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What rubber connectors?

Mikeyx898 said:
What rubber connectors?
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Screen, camera or USB connection cable might be different size or location.

Boards may look same but their functionality may differ as both boards have different CPUs. snapdragon variat have FM radio enabled so 3.5mm jack may have different port configuration same goes with cameras and so on..... Best is to buy a exynos variant F model.

Mikeyx898 said:
I'm sure to be careful with my electronics, but you are right. Looking at tons of pictures the motherboards seem identical in size, all the parts I bought said they were compatible with both models ill be using all n960u parts other than the motherboard. I read somewhere the charger flex is different but I can't see or find any ones that are different, also same for the cameras. This will be a pretty sweet experiment I guess. If they screen works the cracks in the display aren't too bad that it wouldn't be usable. I'd save about 80$ (if I don't buy a bdot replacement) all in all spending about 200$ in replacement parts. Not too bad if you ask me. Considering it's my gfs old phone that she didn't end up paying off since it broke I don't think it'll be a bad deal
I'll be sure to update any progress I have the motherboard will be in around the 15th of march
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Any update? did u successfully swap the motherboards?

Munawar Mehmood said:
Boards may look same but their functionality may differ as both boards have different CPUs. snapdragon variat have FM radio enabled so 3.5mm jack may have different port configuration same goes with cameras and so on..... Best is to buy a exynos variant F model.
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On the Note 10+ there are 2 Snapdragon C port PCB variants that look identical but are completely incompatible and not interchangeable.

Any update on this swap?