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CyanogenMod for the Huawei P9

Hi everyone,
I am aware that the P9 is still new but the OnePlus 3 was released at nearly the same time and there is already dev teams working on CM roms for the device. I'm also aware that roms for the Kirin chipsets are difficult to create.

I would be surprised if it came to the p9. As you said yourself, a lot harder on the Kirin chipset and probably not that many developers. The oneplus 3 has the 820 chip which has tons of developers which makes it easier.
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Even if someone was working on it, I doubt it would be functional enough to use as a daily.

Goronok said:
Even if someone was working on it, I doubt it would be functional enough to use as a daily.
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True.

The biggest fallback of this device is that issue. I hope they release some source codes to make it possible, but for some reason manufacturers often doesn't want to do it. I hope huawei will choose the right side and instead of killing this beauty after 2 years, let it live with the community development.
By the way, applauses for the Sony for the open xperia project.

This kinda works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/development/rom-t3483134

Is it worth it?

So I'm about to change my OPO and I have 2 candidates: OP3 or Z2 Pro.
I'm wondering if the Z2 Pro, in your opinion, will have the same development in the future.
My biggest concern is having a choice if I don't like the stock one.
Do you think CM or other ROMS (Slim, PA, etc) will come for Z2? Or should I just go for the OP3 (which i didn't yet because of high demand 5 weeks shiptime and the camera which seems better on Z2 despite having less MP)?

We have to wait and see how development will be in future. There are some people working in it but nobody knows how it gonna end. Hardware side both units are so close. But OP3 is much better developed and maintained.
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Funky-Fab-4Strings said:
We have to wait and see how development will be in future. There are some people working in it but nobody knows how it gonna end. Hardware side both units are so close. But OP3 is much better developed and maintained.
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Yea, I know. That's why I'm so in doubt. Owning an OPO I know all the development effort put in that phone. Unfortunately there are no other options that I know of with snap 820/6gb ram and between 5/5,5". Even the new Mi5S will be 5.7" in the plus version so that's a no go for me. Same for the LeEco and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
So my only choices at the moment are getting an OP3 and wait 5 weeks for delivery or take the Z2 pro and hope there will be some development.
God, it's so hard to choose.
Any owner of the Z2 pro can tell me how the stock roms is working? Any bugs? It's a stable phone?

matrixino said:
Yea, I know. That's why I'm so in doubt. Owning an OPO I know all the development effort put in that phone. Unfortunately there are no other options that I know of with snap 820/6gb ram and between 5/5,5". Even the new Mi5S will be 5.7" in the plus version so that's a no go for me. Same for the LeEco and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
So my only choices at the moment are getting an OP3 and wait 5 weeks for delivery or take the Z2 pro and hope there will be some development.
God, it's so hard to choose.
Any owner of the Z2 pro can tell me how the stock roms is working? Any bugs? It's a stable phone?
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Used ZUI Chinese Rom (Languages only English or Chinese) for awhile before switching to Unofficial CM13. Everything was working fine in ZUI, just didn't really like the UI and everything looks IOS-like, so i changed over to CM13.
Unofficial CM13 is very stable, only noticed two bugs which aren't really major:
-Vibration is not working
-Facebook videos not playing back properly (Not sure if it's an issue on facebook's side or CM13's side)

alvintan38 said:
Used ZUI Chinese Rom (Languages only English or Chinese) for awhile before switching to Unofficial CM13. Everything was working fine in ZUI, just didn't really like the UI and everything looks IOS-like, so i changed over to CM13.
Unofficial CM13 is very stable, only noticed two bugs which aren't really major:
-Vibration is not working
-Facebook videos not playing back properly (Not sure if it's an issue on facebook's side or CM13's side)
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Vibration for me is not so minor issue. But apart from that, I'm afraid that all the developing can stop out of nowhere (or even worse, never begin) for this phone. Where can I find the CM dev thread?

The phone is awesome,
I am using stock rom with Nova launcher.
Nameless rom is now being developed if that is your kind of thing, I and others have donated to get support for this so I think it should be good, just need to wait for the launch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/how-to/poll-whos-willing-to-donate-nameless-rom-t3456761
I suggest you also join Zukfans.eu forums for lots of info on CM / Mokee and roms and updates.
http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/zuk-z2-pro.4/

matrixino said:
Vibration for me is not so minor issue. But apart from that, I'm afraid that all the developing can stop out of nowhere (or even worse, never begin) for this phone. Where can I find the CM dev thread?
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It's a really good phone, and i'm pretty sure it has a better display over the OP3's pentile optic amoled display, +the 128gb

Mi 5s not an option? Due to be announced tomorrow

ermacwins said:
Mi 5s not an option? Due to be announced tomorrow
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As I said in the first post Mi5S was an option until it was reveled to be 5,7"

matrixino said:
As I said in the first post Mi5S was an option until it was reveled to be 5,7"
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That's the plus version. There will also be a 5.15" version with better specs...

ermacwins said:
That's the plus version. There will also be a 5.15" version with better specs...
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The nonplus version has only 64gb rom, dunno about ram (will see tomorrow). Also xiaomi phones don't have the lte band 20 support (800mhz) used in europe (this is a must for me). Add to this the fact that you are pretty much left with MIUI (xiaomi phones don't have much developing). A xiaomi phone isn't more worth than an op3 or z2 in the end. The only thing I like is the double camera, but we have to see how it performs yet.
Also I already own 2 xiaomis and they have some annoying bugs, so I'm more inclined toward something else.
But we will see once they are announced tomorrow.

Is there ever going to be an official Cyanogen ROM?

Just saying, the Z1 did have one, what's the delay on the Z2 and Z2pro?

I think is not get official support. I don't know why, because this phone have awesome good spec.

Yeah I honestly expected this phone to become a scene favorite and instead it barely gets any support

That's my only criticism about this phone, that it has no official CyanogenMod support. All my previous phones (Moto G, OnePlus One and LG G4) came with official CM support, but the ZUK Z2 doesn't not. I thought it would be okay by relying on community builds instead, but updates are few and far between with these builds. There seems to be some development for the Z2 ongoing over at the Lenovo Mobile forums, but it is all in Chinese and Google Translate does not do much to make it more legible.

P650SE said:
That's my only criticism about this phone, that it has no official CyanogenMod support. All my previous phones (Moto G, OnePlus One and LG G4) came with official CM support, but the ZUK Z2 doesn't not. I thought it would be okay by relying on community builds instead, but updates are few and far between with these builds. There seems to be some development for the Z2 ongoing over at the Lenovo Mobile forums, but it is all in Chinese and Google Translate does not do much to make it more legible.
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I will start working on CM14 next week when my phone arrives, but pls don't except to much.

NeoChontrix said:
I will start working on CM14 next week when my phone arrives, but pls don't except to much.
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Yeah, but this is unofficial??

Araa01 said:
Yeah, but this is unofficial??
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I should be able to get it official when it is running without bugs.

Nice... I fingers crossed. Add on Xda when you compile.

Araa01 said:
Nice... I fingers crossed. Add on Xda when you compile.
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Looks like someone at zukfans compiled cm14.1, idk if everything is working there but it may be worth a look.
http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/cm-14-1-android-7-1-1.1976/

NeoChontrix said:
Looks like someone at zukfans compiled cm14.1, idk if everything is working there but it may be worth a look.
http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/cm-14-1-android-7-1-1.1976/
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No look on others developers. Your system work's better! I trust that. ?

P650SE said:
That's my only criticism about this phone, that it has no official CyanogenMod support. All my previous phones (Moto G, OnePlus One and LG G4) came with official CM support, but the ZUK Z2 doesn't not. I thought it would be okay by relying on community builds instead, but updates are few and far between with these builds. There seems to be some development for the Z2 ongoing over at the Lenovo Mobile forums, but it is all in Chinese and Google Translate does not do much to make it more legible.
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Not just CM but I don't see it gets any official support from any other ROMs
Its really weird, it has a 820 and pretty good specs, I don't get why its so difficult to get a good reliable aosp ROM for it

First to answer your original question. Because zuk had a contract with CM so z1 had Cyanogen OS and thus the open source CyanogenMod was a bonus so to say. Also we do have official CM in the face of MoKee. With some neat added features aswell. Just hoping they continue supporting the device with Nougat aswell
P.S. I have read in some post that MoKee has lots of chinese bloatware which aside from the Pinyin input seems to be incorrect.

baluuu said:
First to answer your original question. Because zuk had a contract with CM so z1 had Cyanogen OS and thus the open source CyanogenMod was a bonus so to say. Also we do have official CM in the face of MoKee. With some neat added features aswell. Just hoping they continue supporting the device with Nougat aswell
P.S. I have read in some post that MoKee has lots of chinese bloatware which aside from the Pinyin input seems to be incorrect.
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Zui.is also based at least to some. degree on Cyanogen mod. E.g. they are using the cm theme engine, they have only hidden the launch icon. Idk what else is from cm since I removed Zui after one hour.

The incredible lack of support in the form of Roms and accessories are stopping me from buy this phone. The specs and 4G band support are perfect for me, but i dont what to stuck with a phone who even Zuk does not care..

Community development strength

You're a power user. Can the Sony Xperia X keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Sony Xperia X. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

really bad comparing to other devices

I don't agree. We got official Paranoid omni and lineageOs, some stock custom rom with mods and some very talented dev into open Xperia device community. This phone has the lastest OS given by Google and enhanced by Sony (aosp source availaable even for 7.1.1).
We will have Android 8 and, with it the new update system... That means more custom rom possibility.

Gazatus said:
I don't agree. We got official Paranoid omni and lineageOs, some stock custom rom with mods and some very talented dev into open Xperia device community. This phone has the lastest OS given by Google and enhanced by Sony (aosp source availaable even for 7.1.1).
We will have Android 8 and, with it the new update system... That means more custom rom possibility.
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lineageos? is there any?

coconutxyz said:
lineageos? is there any?
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LINEAGE ?????
Where is?

No official Lineage. I hope, the official SailfishOS port will arrive soon.
And when this happens, the X will rise.

Dev community pretty bad as of right now... There's a lot of hope but still years behind dev community behind motorola/oneplus/etc

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No official Lineage. I hope, the official SailfishOS port will arrive soon.
And when this happens, the X will rise.
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SailfishOS is an absolute deal breaker for me, as you will have to pay for SailfishOS for the Xperia X.
I don't see a reason why I should pay for a OS, which still lacks of features and probably will be released anyway when the xperia x is completly death.

Did you ever try SFOS? The usage is much cooler than
Android. And there will be an runtime env for Android apps.
I don't have a problem to pay for good things. But nobody
forces you to buy an Xperia X or pay for an alternative OS.
And you know, that an Android with Google services isn't
as free as you think?
Ok, it is getting offtopic.

If we'll could talk with Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 dev community, maybe we have other expectations with the development for this and Xperia X Compact device(s).
BTW, I been wanted show you that: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/development/rom-aosp-oreo-t3664605
Regards.

Very bad compared to my 3 years old Asus Zenfone
This even getting Oreo
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-5/development/rom-aosp-oreo-tank0412-t3663733

Their Snapdragon 650 is a good SoC for Development, more, searching fix some errors that Sony let...
The problem is our own Dev here, is very low...
IDK why.
We'll should to port some things from Xiaomi's Phones (Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Snapdragon and Xiaomi Mi Max), or, fuse our Dev with them Dev for making "bigger" to Snapdragon 650 SoC, at least.

SahilCrazy said:
SailfishOS is an absolute deal breaker for me, as you will have to pay for SailfishOS for the Xperia X.
I don't see a reason why I should pay for a OS, which still lacks of features and probably will be released anyway when the xperia x is completly death.
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u know that jolla give you the option to compile sailfish x for yourself right? And you know that they need to make money because they paid sony for licenses etc. and have taxes and coworker etc.? It's not like that jolla is a one-man show in a cellar like some others here like to think or are by themself

Guys please don't say our dev community strength sucks that's just unfair and of poor taste. WHY? Because.
Sony Xperia X wasn't much of a hit phone anyway it was expensive and was reviewed as a poor excuse for a flagship phone when it was released so nobody even bothered buy one there were better options back then and this phone did not deserve any attention in fact I only bought this phone because it was so damn cheap when I bought it last year. (from a 2nd hand seller for 150$)
I won't expect lots of devs and variety on custom ROMs for this phone, but I'm happy and grateful that we still got great devs here even if there's only a few.

cyanides13 said:
Guys please don't say our dev community strength sucks that's just unfair and of poor taste. WHY? Because.
Sony Xperia X wasn't much of a hit phone anyway it was expensive and was reviewed as a poor excuse for a flagship phone when it was released so nobody even bothered buy one there were better options back then and this phone did not deserve any attention in fact I only bought this phone because it was so damn cheap when I bought it last year. (from a 2nd hand seller for 150$)
I won't expect lots of devs and variety on custom ROMs for this phone, but I'm happy and grateful that we still got great devs here even if there's only a few.
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Now, is the "most seller" together to the Xiaomi A1.
With this, maybe we could see something for make to develop even more for this SoC.

Community development is bad, but not the worst. Unfortunately, "Bootloader unlock allowed" is "No" on my phone so I can't use anything community developed/maintained regardless.

IMO it's alright. We're still under cover of Sony's AOSP and various official projects (Omni and PA), and outside of that there are Unofficial LOS and Treble by Chippa_ahttps://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6994234 and Sjll respectively. Some of those ROMs are usable as daily driver.
Props to any and all developers who have been keeping this phone alive.

Custom Rom?

Hi guys just want to ask why custom rom development in Zuk z2 pro is less if you compared it with z2 plus. I'm planning to buy zuk z2 pro because of amoled screen and 6gb ram.
Currently I have s7 edge that I used in banking apps and work but I want this phone just to satisfy my rooting desire.
Are there any available site outside xda where they develop z2 pro rom?
If not what any advise on what device will satisfy my rooting cravings with almost same hardware and less than 300 dollars?
Thank you in advance.

I don't know exactly why there's not as much development. It's already kind of a niche to have a brand that Lenovo is getting rid of after a few years. As far as where actual development is taking place, my impression over the last year has been that there's Siyang/SY and "LR.Team" over on the official (Chinese language) Lenovo forums; he does the kernel development on Mokee and uses that to make ports of popular-in-east-Asia ROMs like Flyme, MIUI, H2OS and sometimes a build or two of AICP or Resurrection Remix, but they're just pet projects for him to play with and he doesn't actually support or keep updating them, and they tend to always have something broken or crashing. Mokee seems to be in perpetual development in much the same way.
zukfans.eu as a community is an interesting mix of the "wild east" of development from China (at least that's where you'll tend to find leaked development builds and basebands being mirrored in English first), occasional resources coming out of Russia, and links to XDA threads that follow the development of things you're already aware of here.
Really, it would appear that the primary actual development on the Z2 Pro is being done by @davidevinavil and @cosmedd with some assistance from others, so AEX and LineageOS. I'm not sure who the guy is that released CosmicOS, other than that he also seemed to release some other ports of other ROMs for the Z2 Pro over the last couple weeks but may not actually be doing original development so much as has got a good compiling environment and some understanding of how to get things to build for the Z2 Pro -- which is still pretty impressive!
I have a Z2 Pro (Z2121), and I got my wife a Z2 Plus (Z2131). I will say that now that we have AEX and LineageOS, it's a lot easier to recommend the Pro... the screen is pretty, sure, but since we're living on the edge with unlocked bootloaders and custom recoveries & ROMS, the things that really make it better are the on-board UFS storage and USB3 connection. Doing nandroid backups in TWRP and transferring internal memory to/from the computer is SO FAST compared to the Plus, which is just eMMC storage and USB2 connection speed.
Anyway, the Z2 Pro isn't being manufactured any more, so quick, grab a Snapdragon 820 with 6GB DDR3-LP memory and 128GB UFS storage and an AMOLED screen for $300 that runs Oreo 8.1 and can run rooted and still pass SafetyNet with a little help from Magisk while you still can. Also, definitely get a good case for it... I've already had to replace the rear glass on mine once, and don't look forward to trying it again.

Terminator.J said:
I don't know exactly why there's not as much development. It's already kind of a niche to have a brand that Lenovo is getting rid of after a few years. As far as where actual development is taking place, my impression over the last year has been that there's Siyang/SY and "LR.Team" over on the official (Chinese language) Lenovo forums; he does the kernel development on Mokee and uses that to make ports of popular-in-east-Asia ROMs like Flyme, MIUI, H2OS and sometimes a build or two of AICP or Resurrection Remix, but they're just pet projects for him to play with and he doesn't actually support or keep updating them, and they tend to always have something broken or crashing. Mokee seems to be in perpetual development in much the same way.
zukfans.eu as a community is an interesting mix of the "wild east" of development from China (at least that's where you'll tend to find leaked development builds and basebands being mirrored in English first), occasional resources coming out of Russia, and links to XDA threads that follow the development of things you're already aware of here.
Really, it would appear that the primary actual development on the Z2 Pro is being done by @davidevinavil and @cosmedd with some assistance from others, so AEX and LineageOS. I'm not sure who the guy is that released CosmicOS, other than that he also seemed to release some other ports of other ROMs for the Z2 Pro over the last couple weeks but may not actually be doing original development so much as has got a good compiling environment and some understanding of how to get things to build for the Z2 Pro -- which is still pretty impressive!
I have a Z2 Pro (Z2121), and I got my wife a Z2 Plus (Z2131). I will say that now that we have AEX and LineageOS, it's a lot easier to recommend the Pro... the screen is pretty, sure, but since we're living on the edge with unlocked bootloaders and custom recoveries & ROMS, the things that really make it better are the on-board UFS storage and USB3 connection. Doing nandroid backups in TWRP and transferring internal memory to/from the computer is SO FAST compared to the Plus, which is just eMMC storage and USB2 connection speed.
Anyway, the Z2 Pro isn't being manufactured any more, so quick, grab a Snapdragon 820 with 6GB DDR3-LP memory and 128GB UFS storage and an AMOLED screen for $300 that runs Oreo 8.1 and can run rooted and still pass SafetyNet with a little help from Magisk while you still can. Also, definitely get a good case for it... I've already had to replace the rear glass on mine once, and don't look forward to trying it again.
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Well explained @Terminator.Thank you.

Also, have you SEEN the actual forums over there on the Z2 Plus side? Check out the last few days of the AEX 8.1 thread... It's a colossal dumpster fire of people asking the same questions over & over and making demands about "fixing" things... Makes the Pro forums look like a paradise of polite folks who know how to use the search feature and attach a logcat (and that's saying something).