I've got the kids edition Fire with a free one year subscription to FreeTime. If I flash a different ROM, like Slim ROM or something, will I lose the ability to run FreeTime? I suspect so but wanted to ask.
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Hello!
So, I'm not really a noob to this, just to this account and posting on the site. Therefore, I am blocked out of the Dev section, which is the only one REALLY for the Kindle 2.
Anyways, I have a question or questions!
I have been a long time android user and loved to modify my phone and try out the tons of new ROMs out there and always have the latest software running.
At work for xmas we had a raffle and I won a Kindle Fire running OS version 10.2.4. Now, I never really touched anything Kindle or any related things so I was out of the loop. I looked some stuff up and surmised that I have a Kindle Fire 2, which is fairly new. I also seemed to find that the Kindle Fire series runs modified android, can be rooted, and the Original Fire has some ROMs for it.
Now, when it comes to the Kindle 2 things seem to be a little confusing.
As far as I can tell, you can root the device, with Qemu method, and install and run android apps? I could not find anything on getting a recovery on the system, and thus, no ROMs. Is this basically true?
If so, is there any news on headway for making this available? I want to work on getting JB or something that is true android running on the Fire but if we don't have much of any progress, then I will just wait.
Thanks!
It seems as though you and I have similar problems. I do have a Kindle 2 and I'm fairly happy with the the actual hardware but I'm not at all satisfied with Amazon's spammy OS. I'm hoping that I can either root it and download something like Go Launcher Ex to get an android style launcher or simply replace the current os with a viable ROM.
Unlike the OP, my experience with this type of thing is very limited and I'm having trouble understanding some of the jargon being used on many of the guides that have been provided on this subject. If anyone would be willing to walk me through this process, I'd really appreciate it. Oh, and my current version is 10.1.1.
I've done quite a bit of searching, both on Google and here on the forum and I haven't found an answer that applies to the 7-inch KFHD. I currently have Cyanogenmod 10.1 running on it, but it would be really nice to be able to have both JB and the stock Amazon OS installed and be able to switch between them. Is there any way to do this currently? I haven't found anything saying one way or the other. Does anyone else have any idea?
zoness32 said:
I've done quite a bit of searching, both on Google and here on the forum and I haven't found an answer that applies to the 7-inch KFHD. I currently have Cyanogenmod 10.1 running on it, but it would be really nice to be able to have both JB and the stock Amazon OS installed and be able to switch between them. Is there any way to do this currently? I haven't found anything saying one way or the other. Does anyone else have any idea?
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I don't think it's possible, not at this stage. Stock Amazon OS runs on Amazon's ecosystem, in that it is built to work only with Amazon services. This is why simply sideloading Google Play will make it fail miserably. Google's ecosystem requires the GoogleServicesFramework in order to run. There's no way to dual-boot because currently the 1st bootloader handles fastboot yet the 2nd handles the recovery. No one's ever made a 2nd-bootloader public before, and the work that was done by fattire, verygreen and Hashcode is the first. So while it's not completely impossible, I don't think it will come in the near future.
What about different roms?
seokhun said:
I don't think it's possible, not at this stage. Stock Amazon OS runs on Amazon's ecosystem, in that it is built to work only with Amazon services. This is why simply sideloading Google Play will make it fail miserably. Google's ecosystem requires the GoogleServicesFramework in order to run. There's no way to dual-boot because currently the 1st bootloader handles fastboot yet the 2nd handles the recovery. No one's ever made a 2nd-bootloader public before, and the work that was done by fattire, verygreen and Hashcode is the first. So while it's not completely impossible, I don't think it will come in the near future.
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I currently have Cyanogenmod 10.1 on my Kindle Fire HD 7" also, but what about dual booting it with another rom such as AOKP? Then it wouldnt need the amazon ecosystem.
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I currently have Cyanogenmod 10.1 on my Kindle Fire HD 7" also, but what about dual booting it with another rom such as AOKP? Then it wouldnt need the amazon ecosystem.
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I'm also very interested in how you would dual boot CM10.1 and the original Kindle Fire HD 7" OS. I have read somewhere that for now, that's the only way you can use the Amazon apps (due to the above cited Amazon ecosystem). I have TWRP and the 2nd bootloader, but haven't found any threads on dual booting different ROMs.
Dual Booting?
Too bad.
I am running the N2A OS on my 7" KFHD. Mostly a satisfactory experience, but I would like to have the ability the read borrowed books from my Amazon Prime account on it, and also to play Amazon Prime videos. Unfortunately, Amazon has not seen fit to allows either of these to be done on an Android tablet, only on the Kindles (borrowed books) and Kindle Fire tablets.
I have not seen any indication that they are planning to change their policy with respect to these permissions - dual booting would be a great solution.
I have tried the workaround for the Amazon videos (installing Adobe Flash), but have found the results to be less then satisfactory.
Similarly, I tried rooting my Kindle Fire HD and installing Google Play, but found that I was getting repeating Google Framework has stopped messages, and another message as well.
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Follow this link if you can find any solution http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551661
SafeStrap
Looks like hashcode had done it with safestrap, but it's no longer available for Kindle Fire.Link
I'm new to this device, and therefore new to researching about it, so if this question is redundant, I apologise. But even if it is, I hope someone will take a moment to help out.
Just got a Kindle Fire HD 7" 3rd gen for Christmas. The serial number starts with 00D2, and after it went through a couple updates, it's now running Fire OS 4.52 (build 11.4.5.2). I have a factory cord on the way, but I'm looking to be prepared for when it arrives. Is there a way to root this, yet? Can this device be rooted with Firerooter?
Also, if it is possible, I'm possibly looking to install a different ROM as well, and I'm hoping for some recommendations. I want something that offers more customization ability, and a wider set of options, but I don't need something as extravagant as CM 11, for example. I also don't want one that will lag on this device (I hate waiting), or consume the battery much faster than Fire OS 4 does. I'd prefer if it consumed less battery power honestly, but I figure that's asking for too much. Any help is appreciated.
Firerooter. Yes. KFSOWI modding community on Google+
Hello there fellow XDA'ers. I was wondering if you could lend me a hand and help me understand as I'm completely lost and will consider myself a newb (noob) with the kindle fire hd. I was wondering if theres any roms/recovery for the 3rd generation 7 inch fire hd's and if so would you mind helping me out. Ive been looking for the last week to try to find anything and I'm at a complete roadblock. Please help.
~jamer123
Rootable but no ROMs
You need to be at KFSOWI modding https://plus.google.com/communities/115612726860884592519
If you rooted with Firerooter, trust that community--there are no supported ROMs for Fire OS4. If you haven't rooted, go root. Might find you're good without a ROM. It's easy to block most Amazon and use Gapps on any custom launcher you like. Or best of all possible worlds, set it up so you can switch back and forth between custom launcher and Amazon with one tap.
Looking for input/opinions- thanks in advance!
I bought a Fire during one of the Christmastime sales a few years ago and never did anything with it. The box is still in shipping plastic.
I'd like to have an Android tablet for surfing and a few simple games (think sudoku, solitaire, word games).
I watch a lot of youtube videos, so being able to do that is a must.
Also, getting onto my google play account would be nice, hence the Android request.
Seems that Amazon has fallen out with Google of late and taken out much of the cross-connections from the Amazon interface. Is that right?
Not afraid of rooting things- been doing it since OG Droid days.
I'm not really sold on becoming a netizen of the Amazon fabric. I don't have any sort of Prime membership or use any of their services, outside of buying stuff.
I appreciate any and all responses!
phonetool said:
Looking for input/opinions- thanks in advance!
I bought a Fire during one of the Christmastime sales a few years ago and never did anything with it. The box is still in shipping plastic.
I'd like to have an Android tablet for surfing and a few simple games (think sudoku, solitaire, word games).
I watch a lot of youtube videos, so being able to do that is a must.
Also, getting onto my google play account would be nice, hence the Android request.
Seems that Amazon has fallen out with Google of late and taken out much of the cross-connections from the Amazon interface. Is that right?
Not afraid of rooting things- been doing it since OG Droid days.
I'm not really sold on becoming a netizen of the Amazon fabric. I don't have any sort of Prime membership or use any of their services, outside of buying stuff.
I appreciate any and all responses!
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Given your description there is a good chance the device has the original 5.x bootloader which means a custom lollipop based ROM (Fire Nexus or Lineage 12.1) can be easily installed and maintained. Both are stable and feature complete. There is no reason to boot FireOS...ever. Doing so may yield an unrootable device that can not be rooted or accommodate a custom ROM. Once FireOS has been banished the device has no affiliation with Amazon other than the name on the back.
Keep in mind the device is strictly entry level: 1 GB RAM, 8 GB User Storage (5 GB usable), 600x1024 low-res panel, etc. Almost any modern phone (and most burner varients) will run circles around a 5th gen Fire.
I'm happy to provide an outline of the steps required which are not lengthy/hard if you remain somewhat skilled in tethered operations and have familiarity with terms such as ADB, Fastboot, GApps, SuperSU and TWRP. You'll also need a suitable Windows host, be comfortable working with file systems and the Windows command prompt. That said, I prefer not to invest the time if the device will remain drawered or sold given its limited capabilities. A simple ask before responding.
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Given your description there is a good chance the device has the original 5.x bootloader which means a custom lollipop based ROM (Fire Nexus or Lineage 12.1) can be easily installed and maintained. Both are stable and feature complete. There is no reason to boot FireOS...ever. Doing so may yield an unrootable device that can not be rooted or accommodate a custom ROM. Once FireOS has been banished the device has no affiliation with Amazon other than the name on the back.
Keep in mind the device is strictly entry level: 1 GB RAM, 8 GB User Storage (5 GB usable), 600x1024 low-res panel, etc. Almost any modern phone (and most burner varients) will run circles around a 5th gen Fire.
I'm happy to provide an outline of the steps required which are not lengthy/hard if you remain somewhat skilled in tethered operations and have familiarity with terms such as ADB, Fastboot, GApps, SuperSU and TWRP. You'll also need a suitable Windows host, be comfortable working with file systems and the Windows command prompt. That said, I prefer not to invest the time if the device will remain drawered or sold given its limited capabilities. A simple ask before responding.
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Thanks very much for the info and offer!
I would like to try to put one of those two on the device.
I'm away from home this week, so cannot attempt anything just yet.
My Windows machine is a Samsung UMPC running Win7, otherwise I have a Raspberry Pi that does daily work. It does have ADB, but I haven't used it successfully (couldn't figure out the proper command structure on linux).
I'll do some reading this week on what's needed for the effort.
Thanks again!