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busybox download anyone? (without flashing recovery/rom)

Hello, I have an original ADP1, updated to the latest official HTC images
I have:
radio: ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip*
recovery: signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-ota-148830.zip*
I want to be able to install other ROMs, like the ones offered in "Android Development".
There are a lot of guides out there on how to do that, my problem is that I want to do a nandroid backup first, before doing any flashing.
For doing a nandroid backup, I understand that I either
1) need to flash a special recovery image so I don't need a PC to restore the backup,
OR
2) Have busybox installed, and run nandroid.sh from recovery mode.
Correct so far?
I wanted to go with option 2), since I can perform a backup before flashing anything on my device. The only problem is that I don't have busybox installed.
I have seen a busybox build (over here http://benno.id.au/blog/2007/11/14/android-busybox ) which is 1.8MB because it is presumably compiled against libC, and have read here that jesusFreke was building one with bionic.
Is the bionic version anywhere to download? I suspect its in newer roms, but I *do not* want to flash a rom just to have busybox, since i only want busybox so I can perform nandroid updates before doing any flashing.
I understand that after having busybox, I just push it into /usr/xbin, --install, and nandroid will just work?
Anyone got a download to the latest, most stable and complete busybox? I would prefer one compiled for android (linked against bionic, etc..)
(what busybox version do you guys use?)
Thanks for your help and sorry for the LONG POST!

Superken7 said:
Correct so far?
I wanted to go with option 2), since I can perform a backup before flashing anything on my device. The only problem is that I don't have busybox installed.
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I can't address most of your post, but there's a flaw in your reasoning that might make it a moot point.
Nandroid won't backup the recovery image - only the primary OS and data. So making a backup using Nandroid on your stock device won't be any different than installing a modified recovery, then backing up your device.
Really, installing the recovery is a trivial activity with little* risk of damaging your phone.
*No guarantees in life, but I wouldn't worry one bit about it.

Thanks for the quick answer!
I guess i'll look for a recovery image that fits my needs then

Let me suggest Cyanogen's Recovery 1.3.1 - As far as I know, the only one with both Nandroid backup and restore. Also has USB mount, really handy for loading updates if your device is fubared and you don't have a card reader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558

Grr, double post.

Yay thanks!
I guess there are no compatibility problems between recoverys? I mean, just like you need a certain radio version in order to update the SPL, are there any compatibility requirements for that recovery? I don't see any of that in that post, but just in case.. =D
thanks again!! =D

DOUBLE KILL! erm... double post!

I'm not the only one cursed with the double posting, huh?
No, no issues with using any combination of recovery with certain ROMs, SPL, radio, etc.
You're welcome, and good luck.

X10 ?Mini Pro
Works like a charm

when you install titanium backup from the market it will download an actual busybox after first start. maybe you can try this one?

you can use Titanium Backup to update it

Noob root question

after rooting and flashing ROMS, im confused on somethings. When flashing a new ROM do you ALWAYS have to wipe? Also, when you make a Nandroid back up, wipe and flash a new ROM, can you restore from that backup so you dont have to download all your apps//set up your screens all over again? Please help.

If you are switching to a completely new rom, then yes, you have to do a complete wipe. If you are upgrading a rom, adding mods or something similar then you don't need to do a data wipe. If you are switching from a rom that uses apps2sd from one that uses it you should probably wipe your ext partition as well.
To answer your second question, a nandroid backup backs up EVERYTHING on your phone, so using a nandroid restore will knock out your new rom and put everything back the way it was, including apps and settings. If you nandroid back from your new rom (lets say your phone gets stuck in a boot-loop or something...) you should do a data wipe and wipe ext partition, then nandroid.

one-of-four said:
If you are switching to a completely new rom, then yes, you have to do a complete wipe. If you are upgrading a rom, adding mods or something similar then you don't need to do a data wipe. If you are switching from a rom that uses apps2sd from one that uses it you should probably wipe your ext partition as well.
To answer your second question, a nandroid backup backs up EVERYTHING on your phone, so using a nandroid restore will knock out your new rom and put everything back the way it was, including apps and settings. If you nandroid back from your new rom (lets say your phone gets stuck in a boot-loop or something...) you should do a data wipe and wipe ext partition, then nandroid.
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what does wipe ext partition wipe

also...
I want to use stock Android 2.1 ROM but want to use SetCPU to overclock. I tried flashing this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690238 but was stuck on the white/green HTC Screen. I then tried this kernel: http://forum.androidcentral.com/162759-post49.html and it got rid of super user permission so I couldnt use SetCPU. Is there another kernel I can use? If so can you PLEASE provide download link? One more thing, how do I compile this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ghlight=kernel

shamrock11 said:
what does wipe ext partition wipe
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It has your apps2sd info in it, hence wiping before changing roms because most use different versions of a2sd.

one-of-four said:
It has your apps2sd info in it, hence wiping before changing roms because most use different versions of a2sd.
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I want to use stock Android 2.1 ROM but want to use SetCPU to overclock. I tried flashing this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690238 but was stuck on the white/green HTC Screen. I then tried this kernel: http://forum.androidcentral.com/162759-post49.html and it got rid of super user permission so I couldnt use SetCPU. Is there another kernel I can use? If so can you PLEASE provide download link? One more thing, how do I compile this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ghlight=kernel ?

shamrock11 said:
I want to use stock Android 2.1 ROM but want to use SetCPU to overclock. I tried flashing this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690238 but was stuck on the white/green HTC Screen. I then tried this kernel: http://forum.androidcentral.com/162759-post49.html and it got rid of super user permission so I couldnt use SetCPU. Is there another kernel I can use? If so can you PLEASE provide download link? One more thing, how do I compile this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ghlight=kernel
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Ok... I'll give you what info I can, but I'm somewhat new to this myself... the first kernel you tried to flash has to be used in tandem with the rom listed at the top of the thread (darchdroid...) the second needs to be used with damage control's rom. I don't understand why you lost su permissions by flashing the second one, but again I'm new to this.
I hope you made a nandroid backup (always do this, otherwise some people around here will flame you...) I would restore, try installing the rom for the kernel you want to use and then re-flash it.
Something you might like is freshtoast (check: http://geekfor.me/new-release/fresh-toast-v21/) it has a stable rom (fresh 2.1.x) and all the overclocking goodies you're looking for. That way you won't break your phone / lose root in the process.
P.S. your link is broken for your last question, so I can't answer it

one-of-four said:
Ok... I'll give you what info I can, but I'm somewhat new to this myself... the first kernel you tried to flash has to be used in tandem with the rom listed at the top of the thread (darchdroid...) the second needs to be used with damage control's rom. I don't understand why you lost su permissions by flashing the second one, but again I'm new to this.
I hope you made a nandroid backup (always do this, otherwise some people around here will flame you...) I would restore, try installing the rom for the kernel you want to use and then re-flash it.
Something you might like is freshtoast (check: http://geekfor.me/new-release/fresh-toast-v21/) it has a stable rom (fresh 2.1.x) and all the overclocking goodies you're looking for. That way you won't break your phone / lose root in the process.
P.S. your link is broken for your last question, so I can't answer it
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I don't want to use a rom. I was told I can overclock if I use a custom kernel. Which kernel should I download from the second link and heres the last link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684838&highlight=kernel

Sorry for the delay... long day(s) at work!
For your kernel problems, please read this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622916
It gives you step by step instructions on how to compile and install (probably the wrong term, but whatever...) the kernel you want.
In order to use setCPU you'll need a custom kernel, the CDMA Hero doesn't support it straight out of root.
This thread seems like it may contain your answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699792
I also highly recommend heading to following link, it has tons of guides and will answer most of your questions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6738713&postcount=1
Hope this helps, but as far as more in-depth kernel questions, you'll need to find someone else to ask, I'm all out of ideas

[Q] What precautions to take before rooting?

Hello Guys, I was thinking to root my phone and install JellyBlast Rom. Can you please tell me ALL the precautions I should take before rooting my phone (with tutorial link)? I heard that we have to flash a file to make a FULL backup and other things. And will it be safe to install JellyBlast Rom? Is it working?

Sahaj Jain said:
Hello Guys, I was thinking to root my phone and install JellyBlast Rom. Can you please tell me ALL the precautions I should take before rooting my phone (with tutorial link)? I heard that we have to flash a file to make a FULL backup and other things. And will it be safe to install JellyBlast Rom? Is it working?
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See the first post in this thread for all the instructions and files you will need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551156
If you are thinking of flashing custom ROMs then yes, I would personally make a "Full backup with CWM to ODIN format" of your firmware. This will back up everything including your IMEI number which can sometimes go missing.
If you wish you can also make a partial backup with Clockwork Mod Recovery and use the Galaxy Toolbox app, available in Play Store, to make a backup of your IMEI number. These are easier and more convenient when it comes to restoring.
Just follow the instructions carefully and the rooting will go just fine, its not that risky. Which JellyBlast Rom, there's two now? They're both quite new so you may want to wait a short while for others to give their feedback. You almost certainly won't hard-brick (unrecoverable) your phone by flashing a ROM for the correct model of phone but soft-bricks can sometimes happen.

Thanks!
Thanks a lot, Bro. I will make both backups to be safe. I didn't like the Simpilicity Jellyblast, But I liked the JellyBlast V3.0.3 one, But which firmware is better XXLI (In Simpilicty) or VJKL4 (In V3.0.3), I think XXLI is better because it is the latest firmware in my Country (India). What do you think? Can you suggest any other Rom? Is Pimp My Rom mod safe to use on our phone? It makes phone faster right?
EDIT: I made a Full backup. Now I have 6 Files on my SDCARD that CWM_BackUP_FW_ODIN.zip made:
bml15_EFS.img
PDA_S5830C.tar
CSC_S5830C.tar
BOOT_S5830C.tar
CSC_S5830C_clean.tar
PHONE_S5830C.tar
Now if I soft brick my phone can I use these files? If yes then which of these? Because ODIN Has only 4 option and here are 6 files.

No problem. I would have thought you would have been OK with either firmware but someone else might be able to give you a better answer on that. Yeah XXLI is the latest firmware available anywhere.
I'm using the AceCream v1.4 ROM at the moment, its stable, very fast and stylish but I'm not sure whether its still being actively developed. It depends what you're looking for, take at look here and follow the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30731157&postcount=2
Yeah you can use these files to restore via Odin in Download Mode:
PDA_S5830C.tar
CSC_S5830C.tar
BOOT_S5830C.tar
PHONE_S5830C.tar
I think CSC_S5830C_clean.tar is a generic, possibly empty CSC image, not an actual backup, you can probably swap this for CSC_5830C.tar if you ever want to clear your Consumer Software Customization data.
bml15_EFS.img contains your IMEI and network/region lock info. You can't flash this with Odin, you would have to do it manually via command line but you're better using Galaxy Toolbox to be honest.
I think Pimp My Rom works but may not work straight 'out of the box', Adrenaline Engine also works and is included in some of the custom ROMs. For both of those you'll want/need the [email protected] S5830i custom kernel (search XDA).

Thank You a million times! I had so much confusion... Thanks again :laugh:

yes thanks to
yes thanks to

add some features without flashing custom rom?

Love my N7, running stock rom (rooted and unlocked).
Is there any way to bring in some features (like the circle battery, or the recovery/reboot options in shutdown menu) from other roms without having to flash the whole rom?
My phone is old and abandoned by it's manufacturer and carrier, so I don't mind flashing it, but the N7 is still supported so I would like to stay official. These are some very useful features I would love to incorporate if they are available as apk or flash able zip addons.
Thanks!

rhcreed said:
Love my N7, running stock rom (rooted and unlocked).
Is there any way to bring in some features (like the circle battery, or the recovery/reboot options in shutdown menu) from other roms without having to flash the whole rom?
My phone is old and abandoned by it's manufacturer and carrier, so I don't mind flashing it, but the N7 is still supported so I would like to stay official. These are some very useful features I would love to incorporate if they are available as apk or flash able zip addons.
Thanks!
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this post has an add in for reboot options for the stock rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771307

but keep in mind, adding extra feature will probably bork an OTA.

ROM toolbox by jrummy will help with some of what you want. The shutdown menu wont be possible via the route you want though I'm pretty sure

BrianDigital said:
but keep in mind, adding extra feature will probably bork an OTA.
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This. If you're modifying the stock ROM you might as well go with a custom ROM as far as OTA's go.

BrianDigital said:
but keep in mind, adding extra feature will probably bork an OTA.
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It's also worth noting that - via the use of nandroid backups - that it's never an "all or nothing" deal.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with keeping a pure stock ROM "waiting in the wings" in the form of a complete Nandroid backup. When an OTA rolls out, you:
- back up your current ROM
- restore the older pure stock ROM from backup
- take the OTA (guaranteed to work!)
- take a Nandroid backup of the new version of Stock
- (restore custom recovery if needed)
- restore your custom ROM (from the Nandroid backup in first step), and then decide what you want to do about the OTA on this customized variant of stock.
That gives you the flexibility to revert to the current version of stock anytime you like - or use it as the base ROM for your favorite customizations.

bftb0 said:
It's also worth noting that - via the use of nandroid backups - that it's never an "all or nothing" deal.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with keeping a pure stock ROM "waiting in the wings" in the form of a complete Nandroid backup. When an OTA rolls out, you:
- back up your current ROM
- restore the older pure stock ROM from backup
- take the OTA (guaranteed to work!)
- take a Nandroid backup of the new version of Stock
- (restore custom recovery if needed)
- restore your custom ROM (from the Nandroid backup in first step), and then decide what you want to do about the OTA on this customized variant of stock.
That gives you the flexibility to revert to the current version of stock anytime you like - or use it as the base ROM for your favorite customizations.
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Why are you quoting me?
Sounds like a lot of work to sit and wait for an ota, which don't come at specific time. Usually a nice person will compile a stock ROM, long before some users will get an ota notification.
I don't need the information why not quote the op, brah
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

BrianDigital said:
Why are you quoting me?
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Because I can. There; I just did it again
Actually, the reason I quoted you was because I was responding to your point about customizing stock ROMs possibly jeopardizing application of OTAs. Quite true; but not a show-stopper for anyone willing to prepare in advance. And given that the device in question is a Nexus device, it is a virtual certainty that there will be more OTAs coming down the pike.
BrianDigital said:
Sounds like a lot of work to sit and wait for an ota, which don't come at specific time. Usually a nice person will compile a stock ROM, long before some users will get an ota notification.
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You don't need to "wait"; you only do this at the time a new OTA comes out. Prior stock backups are just sitting there doing nothing until that time arrives. BTW, The current 4.2.2 "dev-stock" ROMs on this site can not accept OTAs because they have been zipaligned - none of the system .apks have hash checksums which match the factory files (even though they are functionally identical).
In addition to the previously mentioned advantages, someone that does this also has pure stock backups available to retrieve files from in the event they want to hand-patch their customized ROMs so they can get a failing OTA to "take". *That* is in fact a back-asswards way of doing things, but every time an OTA comes out, you observe a flood of stupid "please somebody give me file such and such" in this forum. That behavior comes from a lack of forethought and preparation (additionally made worse because Google pulls the *prior* factory install images well before the OTA has rolled out fully).
cheers ... and feel free to quote me

AW: add some features without flashing custom rom?
You can use "Pimp My ROM". You can find it here on xda. Works with stock too.

If you are running stock ROM, you can try these that I have been working on for the past week. I have a reboot menu among others.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38749260
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

CM 10.1 Upgrade Procedure

Given that CM 10.1 is still a work in progress, I was looking to see if there was some kind of typical upgrade procedure. Flashing the new ROM is going to essentially wipe the device... is there a 3rd party app that can backup your data? Is it pretty standard to just go through and reinstall everything from scratch?
Thanks!

PenduncleSwazzle said:
Given that CM 10.1 is still a work in progress, I was looking to see if there was some kind of typical upgrade procedure. Flashing the new ROM is going to essentially wipe the device... is there a 3rd party app that can backup your data? Is it pretty standard to just go through and reinstall everything from scratch?
Thanks!
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If you read the upgrade guides they recommend that you use the same tool (CWM) that you do the flashing with to first backup your existing ROM.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

But this is a backup of the ROM, which from what I understand would have nothing to do with getting things set up once the new version of CM is flashed, correct?

PenduncleSwazzle said:
But this is a backup of the ROM, which from what I understand would have nothing to do with getting things set up once the new version of CM is flashed, correct?
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You could root stock using my guide in my HD/HD+ CWM guide linked in my signature, then install Titanium Backup (TB requires root) and backup your installed apps. Then after you install CM10.1 to emmc, you can use titanium backup to restore your installed apps. That does not restore your system settings, but you don't want to anyway since they are different systems.
I thought you meant backing up the ROM, not your installed apps. You talked about a work-in-progress and I thought maybe you wanted to be able to go back to stock if you did not like it.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.