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[Q] Xperia T vs Galaxy siii

Hey i may have the opportunity to swap my galaxy s iii for a Xperia T i was just wondering if anyone has made the change from S3 to T?
Or just what are your thought on the swap?

Why would you wanna swap the S3 for a XT? Doesn't make sense, the S3 is a lot more powerful. I doubt anyone would swap phones, if you have an S3, it'd be a downgrade.
Do you by any chance mean the S2? If so, then yes, swap, the T is a lot better.

Mainly because the world and his wife has an s3. Ive also flashes the polish jb update and the phone lags now. Just fancy a change. I dont tend to stick to one phone for too long lol
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There are quite a few threads of comparisons between the two. Just search.
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ChrisHRocks said:
Mainly because the world and his wife has an s3. Ive also flashes the polish jb update and the phone lags now. Just fancy a change. I dont tend to stick to one phone for too long lol
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The world and his wife will probably have an XT before long - it is the Bond phone after all.
I was considering both the S3 and XT and went for the XT. Mainly for the camera. Having lived with it for a week or two now I'm pleased I made the choice I did. (I had the Galaxy Note before but gave it to my father as his sight is failing and he loved my big screen )
I'm glad I went for the XT - camera is good and the music player is way better than my Note was. It also feels more like proper Android as Samsung TouchWiz was OK but not really to my liking.
There are some features the XT has that I like too - like the volume and power buttons not being opposite each other, location based WiFi switching, the dedicated camera button and having the music player controls on the lock screen, etc. and I prefer the XT screen.

trojan92 said:
Why would you wanna swap the S3 for a XT? Doesn't make sense, the S3 is a lot more powerful. I doubt anyone would swap phones, if you have an S3, it'd be a downgrade.
Do you by any chance mean the S2? If so, then yes, swap, the T is a lot better.
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LOL, really? .......... i swapped S3 for XT and never looked back.
spec. wise maybe it is more powerful, but in real life XT is better phone.
you, go on, flame me. i had both in my hands, and sgs3 for few months.
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tumult said:
LOL, really? .......... i swapped S3 for XT and never looked back.
spec. wise maybe it is more powerful, but in real life XT is better phone.
you, go on, flame me. i had both in my hands, and sgs3 for few months.
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That's what I thought my wife has a xperia s and it runs as smooth as it looks. My thoughts are the XT can only be better than that. Plus it looks good
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ChrisHRocks said:
That's what I thought my wife has a xperia s and it runs as smooth as it looks. My thoughts are the XT can only be better than that. Plus it looks good
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well if you have a chance try it yourself in a shop. this kind of thread will only bring you word wars, unfortunately.
i like it more, feels better in a hand, screen is better, sony software is better, cm10 is working already better than on sgs3.
but it is your decision in the end.
and, we'll have a great kernel here, soon
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I've come from an HTC One X which again is substantially more powerful than the T but I've not looked back, and that's on stock ICS. Once I get around to unlock, root and running custom ROM I'll be even happier I'm sure.

ChrisHRocks said:
Mainly because the world and his wife has an s3. Ive also flashes the polish jb update and the phone lags now. Just fancy a change. I dont tend to stick to one phone for too long lol
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Well if you could try out the XT beforehand then that'd lower the risk of you regretting it.
Not here to start wars, but looking at the specs of each phone, I'd say the S3 is better, and thanks to its more powerful specs, it'd be more futureproof than the XT.
It won't be long before a lot of people have the XT and then you'd be in the same boat all over again.
My thoughts, try out the phone first, see how it feels, and if you want, swap it.

trojan92 said:
Well if you could try out the XT beforehand then that'd lower the risk of you regretting it.
Not here to start wars, but looking at the specs of each phone, I'd say the S3 is better, and thanks to its more powerful specs, it'd be more futureproof than the XT.
It won't be long before a lot of people have the XT and then you'd be in the same boat all over again.
My thoughts, try out the phone first, see how it feels, and if you want, swap it.
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Specs say one thing. People who have used it say another.
As you say - try before you swap.

yeah not only specs matter.... that bothers me cause samsung has been putting out core wars and screen inch wars.. for samsung it must be bigger and more powerful.. but software and hardware deign Sucks!

My previous phone was the Galaxy S3. Now I have the Xperia T.
Speed ​feeling is same. Galaxy S3 has better battery. Xperia T is better in the hand (smallest).
My current favorite is Xperia T.

Coming from an S3 too, mainly because I prefer black, industrial designs with sharp edges as opposed to curves, flowers and the whole 'nature' inspiration. The stock ringtones on the S3 were just plain awful. The Sony software looks slicker than TouchWiz (althouth TouchWiz has a few extra unique features).
I do miss the speed of the S3's camera, but overall it's been worth the upgrade.

Depending on where you are the s3 doesn't really have much over the T.
Pretty sure here they are both 1.5ghz dual core devices. The s3 gets an extra gig of ram but, that's hardly a deal maker for most people.
AFAIK the quad core version of the s3 still lacks dev support and I'd take somewhat inferior specs with superior dev support.
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Own both and note 2 would recommend sticking with S3.
It's a more powerful beast and battery life is better.
Screen quality far superior.
The following reasons I would recommend getting T over S3:
Better quality sound but not necessarily louder
Better camera
Better design
Better hardware
Better UI
Everything else would have goto s3. Dev support is much better with S3 hardly any support for T.
Don't get T for the sake of change as you will probably regret it unless you prefer smaller screens.
T does have some good features tho and UI is much better. Touchwiz is poor.

lokenok said:
yeah not only specs matter.... that bothers me cause samsung has been putting out core wars and screen inch wars.. for samsung it must be bigger and more powerful.. but software and hardware deign Sucks!
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I got the same feeling because personally Sony and HTC have more intresting things about their software than samsung. I always easily get bored of samsung phones no matter how good battery life or hardware. My latest samsung phones since 2010 have been the GS1/2/3 and Wave and all were extremely boring. I have the HOX now and had the HOS before it and Sony Xperia S, Arc S and PLAY. Never found them boring with the xperia s was just battery life, camera auto focus took too long and audio volume and bass was nonsense and its the same again with the xperia T bar camera auto focus problem which is why i didnt get it. The ARC S and PLAY the hardware side is simply weak tbh and the fact they have so little ram they always struggled with games and apps. Personally the play was brought out too early they should have been bringing that out now and support it with 2gb RAM, Quad Core and something like adreno 320GPU or even if it was dual core with 1gb RAM and adreno 225 GPU.
300+ ram, single core and adreno 205 was not doing it atall. Its a shame though as i really like the xperia T and was going to have it as my second phone but the audio and battery life problem is a big issue.

I did that. I gave my S3 to my son an bought the Xperia T.
I can not tel you what is the better Phone. The T feels faster but thats a feeling. The browser on the S3 was faster. I am a hughe Samsung fan but a bigger Sony fan.

I can defo say the browser speed on the s3 was a flyer but I am not missing that atall, as my HOX is fast enough.
My mother and step dad, joined contracts in my mums name have played with the s3 and the XT and are not music people so they prefer the XT battery life wont be and issue either for them as they are not the kind of people that will be browsing internet alot, playing music, watching videos etc and on t mobile the XT is a bit cheaper aswell and the prefer the look and feel of the XT especially as its a bit smaller.

Should I get one

I am thinking about getting the tf701 but iI have a question.
My expierience with battery life (on android) wasnt so good so far.
I do own the LG G Pad an i can get like 2-3 hours of gaming (wifi on brightnes on 75%)
So how long do you think will the Tf701 last? (with and without the Dock)
How is emulator performance? The snapdragon series has some problems with some emulators. How does the Tegra 4 hold up?

Motawa88 said:
I am thinking about getting the tf701 but iI have a question.
My expierience with battery life (on android) wasnt so good so far.
I do own the LG G Pad an i can get like 2-3 hours of gaming (wifi on brightnes on 75%)
So how long do you think will the Tf701 last? (with and without the Dock)
How is emulator performance? The snapdragon series has some problems with some emulators. How does the Tegra 4 hold up?
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its decent, about 6-7 hours a day if i use it extensively. your mileage may vary
2D and 3D performance is not amazing when running at stock resolution. 1200P is the most ideal for this tablet

AngryDinosaur said:
its decent, about 6-7 hours a day if i use it extensively. your mileage may vary
2D and 3D performance is not amazing when running at stock resolution. 1200P is the most ideal for this tablet
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With or without the Dock?
Kinda sucks that o habe to lower the resolution.... Guess I wohnt buy it then.

Motawa88 said:
With or without the Dock?
Kinda sucks that o habe to lower the resolution.... Guess I wohnt buy it then.
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without, i didnt really time out the exact time of course. I just have to charge it at the end of the day if i use it the whole day

I used to have tf701 but now I have the Xperia z2 tablet. I like the z2 much more than the tf701 I had.
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@zabih107: i have the 701 and am interested into changing for the z2. What parts are better? Not better?
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Shacamus said:
@zabih107: i have the 701 and am interested into changing for the z2. What parts are better? Not better?
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I have have the Z2 and I want to change it for the Z3..... It is never ending dude....

Motawa88 said:
With or without the Dock?
Kinda sucks that o habe to lower the resolution.... Guess I wohnt buy it then.
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But if you get the z2, max resolution is only 1920 x 1200, while the high-end Asus and Samsung tablets have 2560 x 1600, which gives a higher dots per inch than Apple's Ipad...
That may not be important if you want a tab mainly for gaming or video, but for me reading was paramount, and for that high dpi helps.
I hate the massive amount of bloatware that Samsung puts on its phones and tablets, while Asus has close to stock Android, and the keyboard sealed the deal for me. I had briefly considered a Note 10.1 with a bluetooth keyboard, but that would have been more expensive, and have neither the convenience nor the battery life of Asus' tablet+keyboard combo.

Just got one and I am pretty happy with it. In Canada, it does not comes with the dock and seeing all these threads / issues when using it, I won't be getting one
This is my first 10 inches tablet and damn, I am very surprised with the quality of the screen / resolution. I am using it mostly for media consumption / streaming, not for 3D games even if it can run them without problems. So far, pretty happy with it. Hopefully, we will get kitkat and I'll be more than pleased!

I got my dock from Canada Computers and I have no issues with it. I love the dock, extra battery, mouse and USB make this tablet so much better. It makes the tablet feel like a nice compact laptop and editing office documents is actually do able.
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Cool, nice to know that some people are enjoying the dock Thanks for the feedback!

I am thinking get one, because only this one has 64g rom. But still worry about cpu vs resolution problem. Any user can tell whether the cpu powerful enough to run the resolution ? Thanks
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hochui said:
I am thinking get one, because only this one has 64g rom. But still worry about cpu vs resolution problem. Any user can tell whether the cpu powerful enough to run the resolution ? Thanks
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I've only ever seen 32GB so you have done very well if you have found a 64GB model - although 64GB cards work fine.
The resolution works fine and runs everything I use it for including some games. You can always unlock, root or flash a rom which allows you to drop the resolution on the fly anyway if you need to. I find 1920x1200 works perfectly fine but I like the clarity of 2560x1600

decided to move on

I've had some great use out of my Nexus 4. As a phone, I've absolutely loved it and when I upgrade to Lollipop, I felt like it was reborn, but unfortunately the last few months have proved testing, coming across great new phones that all have MicroSD slots to expand them and unfortunately with just 16GB of internal memory, I'm finding it increasingly hard to use my phone to my enjoyment. Sure, I could dump all my photos onto the Cloud, or I could backup to my computer, or I could do something else... but the point is, I don't want to. I wanted my Nexus 4 to have an SD slot, and I knew I was taking a risk years ago when I bought it. Luckily, it hasn't manifested itself like I expected, although maybe that's because I was careful (no games, no music, routinely deleting old stuff to clean it up, backing up videos onto my FTP server when it got too full etc).
My Nexus 4 has been a terrific device, and since the Lollipop upgrade, has felt like a brand new phone, and if it wasn't for the lack of expandable memory, I wouldn't have considered getting rid of it, but unfortunately the time has come.
I've now switched to the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4G. It's a budget device (costing just £108 as I didn't pay tax) but is more powerful and has a bigger screen. It also has 4G and expandable memory. It's an interesting upgrade for a Nexus user. I feel like I've gone from a premium device to a budget device and that will take some getting used to, but I think the pros outweigh the cons.
Interestingly, Xiaomi has a huge following in China, India, Malaysia, Singapore, whereas Nexus has a huge following across the rest of the world so I will be experiencing how custom ROM's appear for this phone in a totally different way.
Anyway, as the end draws near for Nexus 4, I'm sure a few of you will be jumping ship soon too, but one things for sure, it's still a great device if you can handle the lack of internal storage, so good on those who do

I have 300 songs, 20 apps, Nokia Here maps of my country (300mb), a few HD videos, 50-ish photos and i still have 5,6GB left.
I know some people use their phones for multimedia and easily fill up even 32gigs, but Nexus 4 isnt a multimedia phone, not with its 2100mah battery and its 4.7" screen
I'm thinking of giving my Nexus 4 to sister this summer and getting something new, but still haven't decided what to get thats not very expensive but good, and i don't want a Nexus 5 because it's too similar to Nexus 4 with similar problems

Mashed_Potatoes said:
I have 300 songs, 20 apps, Nokia Here maps of my country (300mb), a few HD videos, 50-ish photos and i still have 5,6GB left.
I know some people use their phones for multimedia and easily fill up even 32gigs, but Nexus 4 isnt a multimedia phone, not with its 2100mah battery and its 4.7" screen
I'm thinking of giving my Nexus 4 to sister this summer and getting something new, but still haven't decided what to get thats not very expensive but good, and i don't want a Nexus 5 because it's too similar to Nexus 4 with similar problems
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I don't use my phone for multimedia as such, but I do take a lot of photos. I had about 5.9 GB's of photos on it. which, btw, were a nightmare to get off seeing as MTP is seemingly completely incapable of transferring such a large number of files (ended up installing an FTP server on the phone and using FileZilla instead). Considering you only get about 12GB of usable data (much of which is taken up by apps) meant I had very little left. I do get lots of WhatsApp photos too and I guess I've been lazy about deleting them. Ultimately, I grew frustrated about the fact I was constantly running out of space and without deleting stuff, I really couldn't do much about it. I spent a lot of time going through and deleting stuff but I only ever freed up about 1GB or 2GB which meant I was never too far away from filling my phone.
I kept hearing the argument of 'go cloud', 'cloud storage', 'welcome to the cloud', 'use the Nexus with the cloud', but when it came to actually use the cloud it consistently failed on me. I took several videos at a concert last year amounting to a few GB's. I figured this is exactly what the cloud is for seeing as they weren't desperately needed on my phone as such. I tried to upload them (tried both 3G and WiFi), and the Google Drive app seemed completely incapable of handling large files. It was fine for images, or small videos, but uploading these larger videos, it lagged to the point the phone became totally unresponsive and despite waiting for hours, nothing happened and I eventually had to reboot the phone. I googled the issue and there wasn't much detail of it on the Internet. Perhaps I was a rare case but it meant I had to upload them to my FTP server which wasn't ideal either.
I was very close to getting rid of the N4 when it was running KitKat, as I felt it had lost all its bite. I've had phones in the past go stale with time and ultimately, I was happy to move on. With the Nexus 4, I upgraded to Lollipop and it felt like a brand new phone. It totally changed my mind, but then I started having the storage problems again and despite persevering I just got bored. Maybe I should have given out to the cloud, but as an option as is, I wasn't all that keen automatically sync'ing every photo the cloud. Plus, I never felt Google quite got the implementation of the cloud right. Ironically, my new phone, the Xiaomi, they've got it exactly how I always envisioned Google would do it, in that their Gallery app has a local tab and an 'Online' tab, so you can sync all your Gallery photos to the cloud and instantly pull them, rather than having to go on the Photos app or Drive app or whatever. On the whole, it's just a better implementation. Daft considering it's not required on a phone now kitted with a massive Samsung UHS SD card.
I've sold my Nexus 4 to my old man for £70. About £30 cheaper than what I could on eBay but I couldn't be arsed with the hassle. He'll use it and it'll be a great phone for him (his S2 is as good as dead it's that slow now).

Unfortunately, I wanted the Nexus 6 but Google let me down by overpricing it. If they'd dropped the price of the N5, I might have considered another go, but I'm not willing to pay full price for a phone that is a year old. No chance.
I guess I should have upgraded to the N5 when it first came out... but hey ho, we live and learn. I'm now a Xiaomi customer lol

I wouldn't get a Xiaomi as i'm worried about OS updates.
You say KitKat was awful for you and Lollipop rejuvenated your N4 but my case is different. KitKat was the best for me, apart from the pulldown notification bar which was laggy sometimes. 5.0 was the worst thing i've ever came across. I was less frustrated when i was on Bada OS on my old Samsung Wave III. I'm now on the unofficial 5.1 port which is even better than KitKat.
If i were to compare 5.0 and 5.1 on the N4, 5.0 would be an old Ford Focus and 5.1 would be an V8 Aston Martin. Unbelieveably slow experience on 5.0.

The Redmi Note 4G is in some ways a downgrade, IMO. Can't argue too much though, given the cost. Better camera, SD slot (but less native storage), bigger screen, bigger battery. But the SD400/Adreno 305 is inferior to to the S4 Pro/320 that the Nexus 4 has, despite the tick higher clock speed. But if it works for you, then great.

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I wouldn't get a Xiaomi as i'm worried about OS updates.
You say KitKat was awful for you and Lollipop rejuvenated your N4 but my case is different. KitKat was the best for me, apart from the pulldown notification bar which was laggy sometimes. 5.0 was the worst thing i've ever came across. I was less frustrated when i was on Bada OS on my old Samsung Wave III. I'm now on the unofficial 5.1 port which is even better than KitKat.
If i were to compare 5.0 and 5.1 on the N4, 5.0 would be an old Ford Focus and 5.1 would be an V8 Aston Martin. Unbelieveably slow experience on 5.0.
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Interestingly, I think you'd be surprised that Xiaomi seem to have a decent reputation for updates, but more importantly there's a massive userbase. I was astonished by how many custom roms are already appearing and there's already a pretty stable cm12 except minus the camera.
Lollipop was a huge upgrade for me on nexus 4. The phone was fast and felt supercharged. To be fair, perhaps I was lucky.
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The Redmi Note 4G is in some ways a downgrade, IMO. Can't argue too much though, given the cost. Better camera, SD slot (but less native storage), bigger screen, bigger battery. But the SD400/Adreno 305 is inferior to to the S4 Pro/320 that the Nexus 4 has, despite the tick higher clock speed. But if it works for you, then great.
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the GPU is a downgrade but I'm not a massive games player. The less native storage is solved by folder mount. The CPU is about the same, roughly. Perhaps a tiny downgrade although Antutu puts this above the N4. It also brings new connectivity in 4G and better WiFi I believe.
The cost is unbeatable.

How long have you been using Nexus 4? I decided to move on to Galaxy S6 and try 3rd party zl or mpj external battery case. It has been two years since bought the Nexus 4, but now Phone gets hot and battery rapidly discharges

Mashed_Potatoes said:
I wouldn't get a Xiaomi as i'm worried about OS updates.
You say KitKat was awful for you and Lollipop rejuvenated your N4 but my case is different. KitKat was the best for me, apart from the pulldown notification bar which was laggy sometimes. 5.0 was the worst thing i've ever came across. I was less frustrated when i was on Bada OS on my old Samsung Wave III. I'm now on the unofficial 5.1 port which is even better than KitKat.
If i were to compare 5.0 and 5.1 on the N4, 5.0 would be an old Ford Focus and 5.1 would be an V8 Aston Martin. Unbelieveably slow experience on 5.0.
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Could you please point me in the right direction as to where and how to get unofficial 5.1 port? Waiting for OTA is sooo frustrating

bjonre said:
How long have you been using Nexus 4? I decided to move on to Galaxy S6 and try 3rd party zl or mpj external battery case. It has been two years since bought the Nexus 4, but now Phone gets hot and battery rapidly discharges
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A new battery is only about $20 USD. Just saying...

bjonre said:
How long have you been using Nexus 4? I decided to move on to Galaxy S6 and try 3rd party zl or mpj external battery case. It has been two years since bought the Nexus 4, but now Phone gets hot and battery rapidly discharges
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Goodbye buy then.

i can't understand why "new thread"?

Well, a quick update. It didn't take long, but I'm currently flashing ROM's left right and centre lol, trying to pick which one I prefer the most. There goes my genuine attempts to avoid flashing any custom ROM's and giving it a chance to impress in its stock form.
CM12 is seriously good but missing camera functionality at the moment. Everything else is stable but the camera is a killer for me.
CM11 is fully stable so I think I'll end up settling for that.
MIUI6 is fantastic in it's ways but unfortunately, is a bit too overwhelming. Too much pretty stuff at the expense of genuine usability.
MIUI5 i've not tried yet.
Here's the thing though, I'm already embracing my ability to use an SD card. I could never perform a full Nandroid on my N4, realistically.... I've already got one for this phone... and I've got a load of ROM's dumped so I can test.
Performance wise, I'd say this phone is about the same or slightly less than the N4, but the fact it has an FM radio a SD slot, and a few other cool features makes up for it.... and the big screen, which does a cracking job of trying to look HD (it isn't quite HD).
One feature which CM12 is offering but I'm yet to try is an FM Tx. Now that would seriously be an incredible feature if it actually works. Probably doesn't though to be fair. However the MI3 and MI4 both have FM Tx's so who knows?
In truth though, I do miss the N4. It had a certain charm about it that this phone doesn't have. This phone is a budget phone, and it's very obvious. The Nexus 4 was a budget phone, but was built like a premium device. I really do feel like I've gone from a premium phone to a budget phone and it's certainly noticeable to a degree. That said, the touchscreen feels more responsive than the N4 and the colour reproduction is superior. The battery also blows the N4 out of the water and I have to say, it's amazing how long you can get out of this phone. I'm a serious power user, so the N4 really wasn't appropriate for me.... but this is ideal. The N4 however, is the first phone I've ever owned that I didn't hate by the end.
It's a shame the LG Optimus G had no SD slot either. I would have happily gone for that.
Regardless, happy at the moment and enjoying the liberation of plenty of space. I'm still watching the price of the Huawei Ascend Mate 7 though. That's a fantastic beast and would be my first choice if it wasn't so expensive.

gnome_mo said:
Could you please point me in the right direction as to where and how to get unofficial 5.1 port? Waiting for OTA is sooo frustrating
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There are some 5.1 ports here in the Nexus 4 forum

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There are some 5.1 ports here in the Nexus 4 forum
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I'm wondering if Google will put out a 5.1 release. Quite obvious that the Nexus 4 hardware is easily capable, so really, it will be down to whether Google are ready to kill off the old girl. At least you know with Nexus that there will always be custom ROM's available to support you down the line eh?

skezza said:
I'm wondering if Google will put out a 5.1 release. Quite obvious that the Nexus 4 hardware is easily capable, so really, it will be down to whether Google are ready to kill off the old girl. At least you know with Nexus that there will always be custom ROM's available to support you down the line eh?
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Nexus 4 will get 5.1 I'll guarantee you that.

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Nexus 4 will get 5.1 I'll guarantee you that.
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Good stuff. I think in a time where phones are now becoming almost too powerful, the only thing that Google need to get sorted is that the updates keep coming and that manufacturers should be expected to provide them too.

Thanks for sharing
Best of luck to you and your new device

Ha, one benefit of this new phone. For some reason, Three don't know when I'm tethering lol
I'm enjoying all the Tethering'y goodness, without the limits lol.

skezza said:
Ha, one benefit of this new phone. For some reason, Three don't know when I'm tethering lol
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This should be perfectly possible on the Nexus 4. I do it with T-Mobile here in the US.

Overall speed

Would you say that the Moto Z Force is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Moto Z Force exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Thing is wicked fast. Haven't been able to slow it down yet. Purposely left 20+ apps open in background and thing just keeps on chugging away flawlessly when fast-swapping between them.

Running an n64 emulator in the background while playing a psx emulator...no lag, I am very impressed with the speed

Absolutely the fastest device I've owned. It feels better than the 6p.
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Very fast and very fluid!

First Android I've ever owned that didn't ever feel laggy. I haven't been able to bog it yet. It's awesome. And the fingerprint reader is miraculously fast. I didn't think I would care about it before I had the phone. Love it now.
Maybe this is par for the current generation, I haven't used any other 2016 phones, but this is quite honestly the first phone I have ever owned that feels finally there from a performance standpoint.

Fast, smooth, responsive.

Fastest phone I have ever used. Came from a nexus 6p and s7 edge. Used a note 7 a little at a store and it felt like crap after using this phone. Hands down the best Android phone to date.

bignazpwns said:
Fastest phone I have ever used. Came from a nexus 6p and s7 edge. Used a note 7 a little at a store and it felt like crap after using this phone. Hands down the best Android phone to date.
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Phone is super fast. I had an HTC 10 for a few days. Returned it as the Moto Z feels much faster in normal use. Fingerprint reader is also much better than the one on the HTC. Being able to turn screen off with it is really convenient. Came from an unlocked Turbo running CFs ROM, very surprised how much faster the Moto Z is. On Antutu Turbo was at 86k, Moto Z is 151k. Battery life is also better on the Moto Z.

bignazpwns said:
Fastest phone I have ever used. Came from a nexus 6p and s7 edge. Used a note 7 a little at a store and it felt like crap after using this phone. Hands down the best Android phone to date.
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Interesting that you say that. I came from a Nexus 6p, and think my Z Force is noticeably faster than my 6p was!
While I'm sure the lack of updates from Lenovo will eventually piss me off and make me switch phones earlier than necessary, for now I'm super happy.
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Interesting that you say that. I came from a Nexus 6p, and think my Z Force is noticeably faster than my 6p was!
While I'm sure the lack of updates from Lenovo will eventually piss me off and make me switch phones earlier than necessary, for now I'm super happy.
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Lenovo did us right on the phone. And they did us right on the mods. And Lenovo dies have good support for the PC part so I'm hoping they won't drop the ball on updates. Microsoft under Google's leadership did drop the ball really hard and I expected so much more. I hope Lenovo gets updates right. They knocked it out of the park on the z for the hardware. Let's see how there software development is.

Nothing beats it. I played minecraft today, hosting over wifi using an 8bitdo nes30 pro controller over bluetooth with all settings maxed and not once was there any lag. Puts a dent in the battery but for the performance I didnt mind.

Battery stats I forgot to include

Coming from a Nexus 6 which in on now while the Z charges. Running Nougat on the 6 and I can say that the Z is just as smooth maybe smoother.
Nougat is gonna take the Z to another level in both speed and overall performance!
I don't miss root at all on the Z; even if it gets root I won't take the plunge there's simply no since in doing so

As fast as any phone I have used. On par with the Note 7 and faster than my LG G5.

Just got this Moto Z Force Droid on Monday (VZW Buy 1 Get 1) and I am very impressed with it! Battery life has gotten me all day moderate usage and the turbo charge is ridiculously fast (without heating up I might add). I have experienced a great/fast UI which is a tad different than Samsung which I was used too...and not laggy!

By far the fastest phone I've used, the UI is extremely fluid. Sometimes it hangs when opening apps but this is rare and I think it may just be the apps themselves not being optimized for N. I haven't done any multitasking tests yet but it keeps apps that aren't even open (Play Store, YouTube) in RAM even when I don't technically have them running.
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Coming from a Nexus 6 which in on now while the Z charges. Running Nougat on the 6 and I can say that the Z is just as smooth maybe smoother.
Nougat is gonna take the Z to another level in both speed and overall performance!
I don't miss root at all on the Z; even if it gets root I won't take the plunge there's simply no since in doing so
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I wish I could say the same but root is almost essential for me lol. Hopefully unlock codes come out soon because I'd love to get Xposed and V4A on here.

This phone is easily the fastest I've used. No stutters or hangs. Motorola hit it out of the park with this one.

Not much to say, other than it's fast!

Is this phone still worth it ? I'm coming from a s6edge plus

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Moto G4 Plus, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Moto G4 Plus is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

<3 Awesome

I'm all about it. It's by far the best phone I've had and super fun to tinker with.

Definitly not a flagship but not bad for a mid range. I rate it up there with my former nexus 5x. Just wish there was roms to flash.

Well I have the moto g4 for few days now and its a brilliant phone

Great phone @ great price

Great phone, everything you need without all the gadgets you don't need/won't use while not sacrificing modern day performance.

Best feeling 5.5" screened device.
One handed usability is great, shockingly so.
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It heats up turbo charging. Else i give it 9/10.

Heats up a bit in games, though this is due to me purchasing the 2GB RAM option, but other than that, it's awesome!

Great budget package with decent camera.. no lags... Great front facing speakers... A bit of overheating issues...

I can't believe I got all this for so little money. Previous phones: original galaxy note, LG g2, Xperia z3, LG g4. Considered a galaxy s7 edge now and am more than happy with my decision to go for the moto g4 plus.

This week I've gifted this cellphone to my mom, a great upgrade from her old Lenovo A606. She's very happy with it, and me too, it's an awesome phone! Good aesthetics/design, good software, good everything.
Also two friends / colleagues have the same phone, both happy.
As always Motorola giving the best at the best prices.

Bought on May 27th ,2016....Still I love my Moto G4 plus...Normally I don't use any phone more than 6 months..I used Nokia 3510 for almost 3 years and Htc desire X for one year in 2013. But still I love my Moto G4 plus and using..
I wanted to sell this phone in March..But I cannot sell because my mind didn't allow to do so..

Moto G4 16gb 2gb ram + Lineage OS 14.1
For an easy phone that is great on the wallet and still has decent performance, this is a killer device.
Performance is pretty great in my opinion, to save battery I am using the Elemental X kernel and have my CPU undervolted and the big cores max clock at about 1300mhz, truth be told I do not need much power in my phone because I really just use my phone for communication, videos, and audio. I don't really play games on my phone aside from classic Pokemon.
RAM in the G4 16gb is a little limited, as 2gb of ram I do start to notice some sluggish performance if I leave too many apps open. I don't use a whole lot of apps at once, so this doesn't bother me and I can just as easily close the apps out.
Camera is pretty decent, takes decent shots and videos. That's all I ask for.
Battery does get hot quick, have not found anything that can fix this but it's not an issue.
The lack of NFC I was not aware of until after I bought the phone. I was kind of disappointed by that, but really even when I had a phone with NFC, I did not really use it as much as I thought I did. But for buying the phone for under $100, cannot complain about a missing feature I might use once in a blue moon.
Overall this phone is a nice phone to get your hands wet in Android development. Easy to unlock, it is not locked to any carrier, supports all the major LTE Bands, great display, overall a very good experience with the phone.
If you do use a lot of apps I do recommend getting a 32gb version at least. I do not use a lot of apps, but the 16gb ROM is used by everything. System, boot, data, apps, it uses it. Thankfully for pictures and some apps that support it(unless you root it) you do have the ability to add an SD card to the device.
I would get another Moto phone in the future.