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I am reading about NAND, seems that it is basically a way to flash Google ROMs instead of booting from the memory card.
I have a few questions, I have read that it makes linux run faster and the battery life last longer, my questions are about how much faster and about how much better is the battery life vs running from the card. I am still using a winmo ROM that runs pretty good and gets me a few days of battery life, but I am always itching for something new. I tried Ion and a few others but wasnt even getting close to a day on the battery and it would hang up and/or run slow at times.
Thanks for the guidance, I just wanna do my research before going around flashing with NAND, since I forgot which ROM I am using now and the ability to find it again if I want to revert back to it.
I would avoid doing a NAND flash unless you have a spare phone handy. I have a kaiser and I have been unable to find a build that is usable on a daily basis. Yes, running from NAND is definitely faster and better battery but its not worth it if you don't have another phone you can pop your SIM in if you get in a jam.
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I am reading about NAND, seems that it is basically a way to flash Google ROMs instead of booting from the memory card.
I have a few questions, I have read that it makes linux run faster and the battery life last longer, my questions are about how much faster and about how much better is the battery life vs running from the card. I am still using a winmo ROM that runs pretty good and gets me a few days of battery life, but I am always itching for something new. I tried Ion and a few others but wasnt even getting close to a day on the battery and it would hang up and/or run slow at times.
Thanks for the guidance, I just wanna do my research before going around flashing with NAND, since I forgot which ROM I am using now and the ability to find it again if I want to revert back to it.
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see the FAQ thread, answers about battery life and nand and everything else.
Seeing as your in the vogue forum, I would assume you have a vogue, so I would ignore the polaris user
Nand runs great, it's nothing more than a flashed nbh with android, so you won't need windows mobile.
mikeschevelle said:
I am reading about NAND, seems that it is basically a way to flash Google ROMs instead of booting from the memory card.
I have a few questions, I have read that it makes linux run faster and the battery life last longer, my questions are about how much faster and about how much better is the battery life vs running from the card. I am still using a winmo ROM that runs pretty good and gets me a few days of battery life, but I am always itching for something new. I tried Ion and a few others but wasnt even getting close to a day on the battery and it would hang up and/or run slow at times.
Thanks for the guidance, I just wanna do my research before going around flashing with NAND, since I forgot which ROM I am using now and the ability to find it again if I want to revert back to it.
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mssmison, how long is your battery lasting?
mssmison said:
Seeing as your in the vogue forum, I would assume you have a vogue, so I would ignore the polaris user
Nand runs great, it's nothing more than a flashed nbh with android, so you won't need windows mobile.
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I am running from SD card in Haret and I agree with mssmison. I find Android quite usable on a daily basis and can only imagine that NAND would be even better! I am using Myn's Warm Donut. It's great. It has 8 themes to choose from.
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mssmison, how long is your battery lasting?
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Before my vogue died.. It's hard to say cause I spent so much time developing, installing, uninstalling, flashing etc. But when I wasn't 'playing about' I was getting about 4 days +. Data always on, but I rarely ever make calls..
It really depends what you're doing though, just like in winmo.
mssmison said:
Before my vogue died.. It's hard to say cause I spent so much time developing, installing, uninstalling, flashing etc. But when I wasn't 'playing about' I was getting about 4 days +. Data always on, but I rarely ever make calls..
It really depends what you're doing though, just like in winmo.
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I want that vogue; I've never gotten much past 24h with mine with data on, background data off. I rarely talk on my phone, mainly texting, rare internet. have not noted a difference in battery life between nand and sd. people's experience with battery is very variable.
Hello,
I tried quite a few of the ROMs mentioned here.
They have one thing in common, in the beginning the phone is much faster but after a while it gets really slow, even slower than the original Samsung ROM.
Which ROM to use that will stay fast?
vinz3nt said:
Hello,
I tried quite a few of the ROMs mentioned here.
They have one thing in common, in the beginning the phone is much faster but after a while it gets really slow, even slower than the original Samsung ROM.
Which ROM to use that will stay fast?
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i´m on slimKAT by A-A and it stays fast for weeks/months...
Think this is not ROM but app-related.
The more apps, the more you will loose speed...
I use SDMaid to clean my device from time to time. Maybe it helps
I've tried many Stock ROMs, CM11, CM10.2, Carbon and Omni, but the fastest ROM imo is Stock XXAMG4. After debloating it's very fast.
moonryder said:
i´m on slimKAT by A-A and it stays fast for weeks/months...
Think this is not ROM but app-related.
The more apps, the more you will loose speed...
I use SDMaid to clean my device from time to time. Maybe it helps
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Well I try to keep the amount of apps as low as possible, I only keep the apps installed I really use, no games at all as they tend to eat a lot of space, I use my tablet for that. I will give that SDmaid a try, it looks very interesting.
Anyway, so far I only tried 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 ROMs, perhaps that's the problem as these Android versions were never intended for the S3 mini, perhaps I have to find a good 4.1.2 ROM
vinz3nt said:
Well I try to keep the amount of apps as low as possible, I only keep the apps installed I really use, no games at all as they tend to eat a lot of space, I use my tablet for that. I will give that SDmaid a try, it looks very interesting.
Anyway, so far I only tried 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 ROMs, perhaps that's the problem as these Android versions were never intended for the S3 mini, perhaps I have to find a good 4.1.2 ROM
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409400
I'm using this one. It's flashable through CWM/TWRP, it's zipaligned, deodexed and rooted. You can debloat it yourself.
or try THIS AWESOME STOCK ROM - really recommended
You can also give this ROM a try. It's very fast even when playing hard games like FF6, CSR, GTA, etc.
Thanks guys!
I'm gonna give them all a go to see which one is the best.
So far, the 4.4.4 ROM I'm using (Pac ROM) gets worse and worse; lots of crashes and incredibly slow at times, it's a good lesson why you shouldn't try an Android version that wasn't meant for your phone.
Ah wel, next year, another phone
I came from a Nexus 5 with ART enabled and it was SOOOOO much faster and more responsive than my Nexus 6. Yes, I know that the Nexus 6 has that god aweful encryption crap, but even the benchmarks with it on show it as being faster. I am running stock, barely have any apps installed, have animation speeds at .5, and yet I lag hardcore even when Im just typing. I havent been on a device this laggy since my Galaxy S2.......Is there anything I can do? Or am I SOL until they release a fix?
Hmm strange I have never noticed lag when typing seems like an everyday thing to do, your not thermal throttled by any chance are you??
ricey1986 said:
Hmm strange I have never noticed lag when typing seems like an everyday thing to do, your not thermal throttled by any chance are you??
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Not that Im aware of.......I REALLY dont want to root my device (yes I know, then why have android). I like the stock experience, and I used to root all the time but I got SO sick of all the bugs in roms
I know what you mean with not wanting to root, I was adamant wasn't rooting..lasted a day.
^ you lasted longer than I did. 5 hours.
I made it a few days without root, but ultimately succumbed...
Still stock ROM and encrypted though. My N6 flies. No lags anywhere. I let a co-worker handle the beast over the weekend, he has a Note 3. He liked how smooth and fluid Lollipop is.
I can only suggest OP is experiencing a software problem of sorts. Perhaps something was installed which is hogging resources in the background. Maybe even a factory reset is in order.
ricey1986 said:
I can only suggest OP is experiencing a software problem of sorts. Perhaps something was installed which is hogging resources in the background. Maybe even a factory reset is in order.
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I am guessing this. the only lag I ever saw was when first opening an app. such as shown in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV2X51kAVfc
my n6 is very slow compared to my n5. I have animations to 0.5x and encryption off. is a software problem ?? the display resolution ??
changing animations 0.5 does not work....its very frustrating
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I came from a Nexus 5 with ART enabled and it was SOOOOO much faster and more responsive than my Nexus 6. Yes, I know that the Nexus 6 has that god aweful encryption crap, but even the benchmarks with it on show it as being faster. I am running stock, barely have any apps installed, have animation speeds at .5, and yet I lag hardcore even when Im just typing. I havent been on a device this laggy since my Galaxy S2.......Is there anything I can do? Or am I SOL until they release a fix?
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Must be your phone or cellular service. I had nexus 5 the 6 is MUCH faster no lag at all
My read and write speeds are atrocious!! Makes me want to cry
Dagreek005 said:
Not that Im aware of.......I REALLY dont want to root my device (yes I know, then why have android). I like the stock experience, and I used to root all the time but I got SO sick of all the bugs in roms
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Rooting your device doesn't change what "ROM" you have, it simply gives you write/edit capabilities to system files.
You can root and boot and you will notice zero changes. And of course your N5 was running ART - that's lollipop's only runtime.
Wait I thought the recent software update improved the speed of the device, or not? Did I mishear something?
Mine is faster than my SD805 G3 that I had. Its also faster in most ways than my Nexus 9 was. It depends on what you are running, even stock it was extremely smooth.
Try a factory reset. It may help.
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Try a factory reset. It may help.
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if this doesn't help, you may have to flash the factory img again.
but in all reality, you shouldn't rely so much on arbitrary benchmark numbers. everyone's is different based on what they have on their phone, just like measuring screen on time as a good mark for battery life.
Didnt help, still the same speeds.......and I dont rely on them, but my phone has been SUPER slow.........UGhhh this sucks. Anyone else on stock? Wanna run Androbench and post your results? Im wondering If I have a bad device and need to get it swapped? I already did that once.....Grrrrrrrr
Mine is about the same as your results but I don't notice any lags
Hey all,
Last flashed on FireKat months ago and have been wanting to try out Lollipop but wasn't sure if it was ready yet. When I first used FireNote, mega was remarking that it would be a few months before KK was stable enough for everyday use.
Have you guys had good luck with custom Lollipop ROMs? Which ones are the "best" ones you'd recommend?
Sorta/not really. It's like smooth sailing except when you hit the new barrier reef. But it's pretty!
Latest problem is Viper4android can't possibly work until someone figures out how to enable SELinux Permissive mode. Then like something makes a noise or vibrates in a way you might have tamed with Xposed before. But there's no Xposed either. How do you fix it? You don't. I might just go back. Sucks either way for now.
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Galaxy Note 3 - AT&T (sm-n900a)
How's battery life? Right now on firekat I'm losing 35% per hour during use and 3-5% per hour when the screen is off. Can't be worse than this.
Lack of viper and xposed aren't really deal breakers for me. Inconvenient, yes, but still usable.
Root WiFi hotspot still works I assume?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using XDA Free mobile app
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How's battery life? Right now on firekat I'm losing 35% per hour during use and 3-5% per hour when the screen is off. Can't be worse than this.
Lack of viper and xposed aren't really deal breakers for me. Inconvenient, yes, but still usable.
Root WiFi hotspot still works I assume?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using XDA Free mobile app
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Running FK with them specs you didn't have something setup right. I'm lucky to use 35% in a days time just saying.
YRC123 said:
Running FK with them specs you didn't have something setup right. I'm lucky to use 35% in a days time just saying.
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Yeah i figured that battery life was abnormal. Not sure how to troubleshoot it, though. When I go to look at battery stats (using GSam) to troubleshoot, it just shows that most of the battery is consumed by "Android System," followed closely by "Kernel (Android OS)." Battery life was pretty good when I first installed FK, but has gone down considerably since first install.
Any idea on how to further troubleshoot?
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Yeah i figured that battery life was abnormal. Not sure how to troubleshoot it, though. When I go to look at battery stats (using GSam) to troubleshoot, it just shows that most of the battery is consumed by "Android System," followed closely by "Kernel (Android OS)." Battery life was pretty good when I first installed FK, but has gone down considerably since first install.
Any idea on how to further troubleshoot?
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Not knowing how you flashed it. always odin back to nc2 then install ss and tr, Flash the rom. Never use battery saver. When using greenify make sure its uncheck in exposed. Don't forget to make a fresh backup of nc2 before flashing fk. But the new build v19n3 and v19n4 is running awesome. Great battery life. One thing I do is in tb is to change Google play services from system app to user app. Hope this helps. If you try this rom again and have problems jump over to the fk thread since this thread is Q&A on LP.
YRC123 said:
Not knowing how you flashed it. always odin back to nc2 then install ss and tr, Flash the rom. Never use battery saver. When using greenify make sure its uncheck in exposed. Don't forget to make a fresh backup of nc2 before flashing fk. But the new build v19n3 and v19n4 is running awesome. Great battery life. One thing I do is in tb is to change Google play services from system app to user app. Hope this helps. If you try this rom again and have problems jump over to the fk thread since this thread is Q&A on LP.
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Yeah I installed FK according to all the instructions and it was fine at first. Battery life degraded over time, though. To give you an idea how long ago I installed FK, I have version 4 installed.
What I'm wondering is if i should install the newest FK or jump over to lollipop. Anyone have any experience with both? Curious to see all the new lollipop features and battery life can hardly get WORSE compared to what I have now.
djfujiyama said:
Yeah I installed FK according to all the instructions and it was fine at first. Battery life degraded over time, though. To give you an idea how long ago I installed FK, I have version 4 installed.
What I'm wondering is if i should install the newest FK or jump over to lollipop. Anyone have any experience with both? Curious to see all the new lollipop features and battery life can hardly get WORSE compared to what I have now.
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Well I tried LP on a older Nexus 4 that I just tinker with I didn't like it. I put slimkat back on it. But the new fk builds is great. I'm not switching to LP unless Mega does a LP build for us. Like I said if you try the new builds just jump over on the threads if you have problems.
It looks like allianceROM is one of the more popular Lollipop ROMs. Anyone have any opinions on it vs firekat?
I think lollipop roms are awesome, very smooth. I did have better battery life with 4.3 then anyother
What's up guys. So I had put MM on a friend's N6 for her so that she could enjoy the best of what android can offer (got her to sell her Iphone, Yessss)
Anyway... Now that I have a 64GB nexus 6 of my own and after many days of testing... I feel like something is wrong.
She is a pretty standard user, while I am a super heavy user... and neither of us can get past roughly 10 hours of total time, regardless of SOT. I've tried Chroma, Light, and Euphoria (MM builds) on both of our devices and the results are almost always the same. For her, the past week has been a max of 10 hours total time, but sometimes as little as 6 hours without use if not less, with less than 1 hour of SOT. Then on mine, which I've only had for 2 days mind you, the results are strangely similar, the best I got was 9 hours of total time with 3 hours SOT. While our results are somewhat different they both still... suck.
Is there some kind of magical nonsense I missed that must be preformed before moving to MM? Both devices were on LP to start with. I'm honestly just moving back to 5.1.1 for now (Mainly for xposed anyway) but...still I know that after reading so many good comments in threads that this cannot be some general "MM sucks" thing. It must be our devices, or the way I am modding them.
Basically, for both devices I did the following...
Unlock Bootloader
Flash TWRP, the one that was said to work on MM
Backed up Stock Rom
Flashed a custom ROM
...Is there something new that I am not aware of? I've tried to search a bit but I've honestly not sure what to search for exactly. I tried searching for firmware...but that didn't really seem conclusive.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
battery life has nothing to do with you rooting/unlocking/flashing your phone. it all has to do with how you set up, which apps you install and use, how you use the device, and your signal quality. that said, if you keep your brightness high, you will get lowered battery life, no matter what.
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battery life has nothing to do with you rooting/unlocking/flashing your phone. it all has to do with how you set up, which apps you install and use, how you use the device, and your signal quality. that said, if you keep your brightness high, you will get lowered battery life, no matter what.
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right, but the fact that we both have different uses (mine being heavy hers being light) and use different apps...yet the results are similar?
I'm talking about is there some kind of firmware that is needed? Similar to HTC devices and the OnePlus one going from kitkat to LP?
what carrier are you on? there are different roms per carrier and having the wrong one might be affecting this
Locklear308 said:
right, but the fact that we both have different uses (mine being heavy hers being light) and use different apps...yet the results are similar?
I'm talking about is there some kind of firmware that is needed? Similar to HTC devices and the OnePlus one going from kitkat to LP?
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no. if your phones have booted, and are running, you got everything. your battery life is what i have "normally" seen from average users that dont know much about keeping good battery life. i normally see anywhere from 5-6.5 hours sot, and minimally 20 hours total in battery life.
simms22 said:
no. if your phones have booted, and are running, you got everything. your battery life is what i have "normally" seen from average users that dont know much about keeping good battery life. i normally see anywhere from 5-6.5 hours sot, and minimally 20 hours total in battery life.
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...You're sure? If anything, her light use should allow her to go on for a long time. I've been checking gsam while letting the phone sit. No auto sync or any of that nonsense. And it's averaging 12% per hour... which is just crazy.
I mean I've had to defeat battery sucking issues before, but this is just crazy.
Locklear308 said:
...You're sure? If anything, her light use should allow her to go on for a long time. I've been checking gsam while letting the phone sit. No auto sync or any of that nonsense. And it's averaging 12% per hour... which is just crazy.
I mean I've had to defeat battery sucking issues before, but this is just crazy.
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If dirty flash didn't work I would clean flash. Wipe til it squeaks. Dirty flash don't always work when flashing a new base.
Locklear308 said:
...You're sure? If anything, her light use should allow her to go on for a long time. I've been checking gsam while letting the phone sit. No auto sync or any of that nonsense. And it's averaging 12% per hour... which is just crazy.
I mean I've had to defeat battery sucking issues before, but this is just crazy.
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theres so much more to battery life then just "light use". i sync everything, and dont disable anything, keep my brightness low..
do you/she happen to use facebook? how about are you a gamer?
also, if your signal quality isnt good, your battery will never be.
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theres so much more to battery life then just "light use". i sync everything, and dont disable anything, keep my brightness low..
do you/she happen to use facebook? how about are you a gamer?
also, if your signal quality isnt good, your battery will never be.
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She uses facebook, I do not... But still ... this is crazy terrible battery life. I mean... I expected MM to be better, but at least be equivalent to LP. But this is just insane.
Alright! After reading and looking around more, I've found a post that stated "FOR LOLLIPOP ROM USERS IS NECESSARY START FROM ANDROID M FACTORY OR UPGRADE YOUR BOOTLOADER AND RADIO."
I tried searching for this but I'm not finding anything. I take it I just need to flash the stock factory image, but if one wanted just to upgrade, where are the Bootloader and Radio files?
I am downloading the factory image now and will report if this helps at all, perhaps this will help other users.
I found the best way to go was to flash the stock firmware and start from scratch. I simply did a clean install. My battery life has improved drastically from Lollipop.
Locklear308 said:
She uses facebook, I do not... But still ... this is crazy terrible battery life. I mean... I expected MM to be better, but at least be equivalent to LP. But this is just insane.
Alright! After reading and looking around more, I've found a post that stated "FOR LOLLIPOP ROM USERS IS NECESSARY START FROM ANDROID M FACTORY OR UPGRADE YOUR BOOTLOADER AND RADIO."
I tried searching for this but I'm not finding anything. I take it I just need to flash the stock factory image, but if one wanted just to upgrade, where are the Bootloader and Radio files?
I am downloading the factory image now and will report if this helps at all, perhaps this will help other users.
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they are in the factory image. if you are running marsh, you have them both. btw, factory images https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?csw=1#yakju
haibane said:
I found the best way to go was to flash the stock firmware and start from scratch. I simply did a clean install. My battery life has improved drastically from Lollipop.
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Did you flash the entire stock rom/firmware/boot etc? Or just the radio and bootloader? I just flashed the bootloader and radio, but I guess I might as well do it all.
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Did you flash the entire stock rom/firmware/boot etc? Or just the radio and bootloader? I just flashed the bootloader and radio, but I guess I might as well do it all.
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I did the whole thing. I've found with any phone on any OS, it is generally best to do a full clean install with full number changes.
While you lose a fair amount of content, it is worth the benefit.
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I did the whole thing. I've found with any phone on any OS, it is generally best to do a full clean install with full number changes.
While you lose a fair amount of content, it is worth the benefit.
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I always keep my apps backed up on a USB drive lol. Believe it or not this is the first device I've had to go from one major build to the next. Other than the OnePlus One. I was not aware you could even update the bootloader really lol, I thought that was an annoying HTC thing. Alright, I shall get to flashing.