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Could anybody post some sample photos from the kaiser camera at maximum quality settings?, maximum resolution, best jpeg compression...
thanks!

pepeto2001 said:
Could anybody post some sample photos from the kaiser camera at maximum quality settings?, maximum resolution, best jpeg compression...
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http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/

eva_d said:
http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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Very good quality.

eva_d said:
http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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They are not bad at all. Colors seem a little faded though. Oh well, it's a cellphone!

eva_d said:
http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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Eva_d, the new photos are better than the initial ones (the ones yo uploaded to modaco forum), could you try a macro photo?, or some photos with the camera holded firmly to very near objects?, and a recorded video?
Thank youuu very much!!!!

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Eva_d, the new photos are better than the initial ones (the ones yo uploaded to modaco forum), could you try a macro photo?, or some photos with the camera holded firmly to very near objects?, and a recorded video?
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Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.

eva_d said:
Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.
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That macro pics are very good, I'm beginning to think that the initial photos that werent as good as paul(modaco) samples was because of not holding the camera firmly until photo was done... isnt it?... I'm talking about imag0005, imag0006...

Nice pictures and good quality (focus/resolution).
A scan of a letter would be a other good indicator for the macro function (focus/resolution).
Maybe you can take one more photo of e.g. an advertising letter
or of a journal/magazine with text?
Thanks!

Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?

pepeto2001 said:
Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?
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I must say that kind of keyboard is really convenient, I was using Nokia E61 for almost 2 months as a primary phone, and actually I liked it. But I'm back on board with WM platform.
Btw. I've uploaded example video - sorry for rotation, I did it from a mobile holder in my car. I've also uploaded close-up of texts, as requested - a little blurry tough, I should have done them from more distance.

the video looks really good... the macro shots... maybe there wasnt enought light, this phone cameras have a big shutter lag, this is the time since you press de button and the photo is really done, then, it is really important to hold steady the "camera" till the photo is on screen..
Thanks for your photos again!!

Is 320x240 the highest resolution?

Here some of my "masterpieces"
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great photos, they look very good!!!, any photo with faces?, in a crowded street or something similar..

eva_d said:
Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.
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Quite impressive for a cameraphone. I can't believe what I'm seeing actually.
Although http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/IMAG0039.jpg shows that the debayering algorithm used by the phone is CRAP. "maze" patterns like those seen in the sky are a known issue with the simpler interpolation algorithms. Has anyone created a camera app for HTC phones that can save raw sensor data to be given to an application such as dcraw?

pepeto2001 said:
Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?
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The slide-out keyboard has major form factor advantages (phone is smaller and keys are larger), but there are plenty of times I miss my Treo 650's non-slideout "always-there" keyboard, especially when dialing.
Palm has stagnated a lot, but the one thing where they are way ahead is in terms of "non-stylus" operation. Strange that there is a Smartphone Edition of Windows Mobile but many of its improvements are not in the version for phones with a touchscreen.

Entropy512 said:
Quite impressive for a cameraphone. I can't believe what I'm seeing actually.
Although http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/IMAG0039.jpg shows that the debayering algorithm used by the phone is CRAP. "maze" patterns like those seen in the sky are a known issue with the simpler interpolation algorithms. Has anyone created a camera app for HTC phones that can save raw sensor data to be given to an application such as dcraw?
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Sadly coolcamera doesn't work with Kaiser for some reason.
http://www.ateksoft.com/features.html
I was usually getting better pictures with coolcamera on any HTC phone.

This is a Sample Photo:
Enjoy
Nadavi

wow!, last photos are very good, they show the quality of the camera!!

One more. I did tweaked parameters a bit.

Quick question. Please read :X

Ok, So the camera's 3.2 mega pixel and the video recorder records pretty low res.
Would it be possible to edit the recorder so that it can record higher res/better quality?

Or is there any apps or console commands to change this

Unfortunatly the camera is very poor and nothing will fix it. Thats all there is too it.

Ok, Well that didn't answer my question.
Any the camera isn't poor it works great, Its a bit crappy in low light but still it looks awesome and better then a 5mp camera phone from samsung.

Frito37 said:
Ok, Well that didn't answer my question.
Any the camera isn't poor it works great, Its a bit crappy in low light but still it looks awesome and better then a 5mp camera phone from samsung.
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I actually have to agree with this as I've had the G600 and that camera SUCKED no matter what PhoneArena says. I noticed i would only use the G1 for pictures so i got rid of the 600

I took a picture of my eye and then shooped the hell outta it. (I added alot of the spots and wrinkles :X)
This is a resized/croped version, Hell you can see the g1 reflection in my eye.
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Its a nice camera!

Anyone? I still would like this answered

nice fake :-D

your question was answered in post 3 but ill repeat it for you.
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Unfortunatly the camera is very poor and nothing will fix it. Thats all there is too it.
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Ok you must not be able to read.
I'm not asking about quality of the camera.
Im asking if its at all possible to make video RECORDING better or higher res.
And what do you mean by nice fake?
If ur implying the pictures fake, Its not at all fake and was taken by my g1.

It depends alot on bandwidth of memory in the device. I dont know if it is possible right now to make a better/higer quality video recorder. If Google creates API's that take advantage of the full potential of the graphics chips we may get a better camcorder app.

I updated to hero and it seems to have a bit better video recording
but thats because of the codec it uses.

xsnipuhx said:
your question was answered in post 3 but ill repeat it for you.
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Seriously, read the freaking thread before saying something stupid.
As for the question, I'm sure a developer could create a new app for higher resolution video recorder because it has been done on other devices. Try requesting it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446769

just2good4u3434 said:
Seriously, read the freaking thread before saying something stupid.
As for the question, I'm sure a developer could create a new app for higher resolution video recorder because it has been done on other devices. Try requesting it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446769
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Thanks.
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No, and the reason is:
A still camera has a longer exposure time and can dedicate more light overtime for each picture. A video has to a expose an image 30 times a second, so in order to expose properly the camera must take many pixels from the ccd and group them together as 1 pixel reducing image size for video. (I could be done by reducing FPS, but that will only go so far.)
And there is also issues with video format standards and the G1 ability to play back video to consider as well.

Heck, even my Canon 5D Mark II can only record video at 1/10th of the resolution it captures still images at. It does video at 1920x1080 or 2,073,600 pixels, whereas still images are captured at 5616x3744 or 21,026,304 pixels.
I think people expect far too much from a phone that has a camera that probably cost $15 to manufacture (the camera part - not the whole phone).

No I dont exspect it to do better i just wondering if it could.

Camera Thread

Thread for posting pics and videos and discussing the camera and its abilities. Definitely interested in low-light still shots featuring motion.

Stay tuned. I'm going to deliver some awesome photography in this thread.

gavinfabl said:
Stay tuned. I'm going to deliver some awesome photography in this thread.
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Saw a Reddit post that the camera is not true 2x optical zoom, but 1.5x optical zoom with added scaling. Can your shots also speak to this and whether or not it actually matters?
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/6iksgn/what_the_op5_doesnt_have_2x_lossless_zoom_its/
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Oh man, saw the XDA comments on camera with the super blurry puppy pic in what looked like decent lighting:
there can be inconsistent delays between pressing the shutter button and actually taking a picture, leading to missed opportunities (pronounced in puppy or baby pictures)
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https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5-xda-first-impressions-upgrade/
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Here's a scene from my hostel room, the first picture is normal, second was taken with the "2x" mode and the last was taken with op3 running aosp, 10 minutes after the first photos, so it's not apples to apples comparison
Edit: If there's demand, I can take more photos tomorrow afternoon when I get home

No OIS on the OP5 and camera quality is only a little better than the 3T. What a disappointment!

You don't need OIS to take great photos. Helps of course. More so in lower light. I will let you know what I think soon.

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You don't need OIS to take great photos. Helps of course. More so in lower light. I will let you know what I think soon.
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It doesn't have the Pixels amazing EIS so videos will be affected also. The 6Ps videos were horrible because it didn't have OIS.

Much prefer OIS but The lack of EIS on 4k video recording is a deal breaker for me, no stabilisation is horrible on any video recording.
Do you this this could be added later with a software update.?
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You don't need OIS to take great photos. Helps of course. More so in lower light. I will let you know what I think soon.
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OIS or EIS is mainly for video recording without it videos are horrible to watch back, there is NO excuse why EIS is available for 1080p but not 4k video recording.

Until I see the results myself, i.e. tested it in my hands, thats when I'll critique it correctly. Results speak for themselves as they say.

Makrilli said:
Here's a scene from my hostel room, the first picture is normal, second was taken with the "2x" mode and the last was taken with op3 running aosp, 10 minutes after the first photos, so it's not apples to apples comparison
Edit: If there's demand, I can take more photos tomorrow afternoon when I get home
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Looks like taken through a glass window seeing the ghost indoor lamps reflecting in the pictures.

Just tested the camera.
1st image is bokeh effect
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2nd image is 2x optical zoom, would be rude not to get my civic in the picture

Kahun said:
Just tested the camera.
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Take more photos of that VXR mate! <3 Of course with OP5

KamilKiri said:
Take more photos of that VXR mate! <3 Of course with OP5
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I will get one when I'm leaving work in about 2h

Can someone shoot a 4k video while walking for example ? I have an OP3T right now, and the lack of OIS is a real deal breaker for me ... Plus the EIS is not available for 4K videos

KamilKiri said:
Take more photos of that VXR mate! <3 Of course with OP5
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As requested

Thanks @Kahun , nice cars! Thats my one but I took this shot on my S7. Can't wait for my OP5 tomorrow.

KamilKiri said:
Thanks @Kahun , nice cars! Thats my one but I took this shot on my S7. Can't wait for my OP5 tomorrow.
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Good to see a fellow petrol head xD that photo looks so sick I need to take one like that for my civic

Kahun said:
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They look OK pics. Better than the 3T but not as good as the flagships today.

Al3xxxinho said:
Can someone shoot a 4k video while walking for example ? I have an OP3T right now, and the lack of OIS is a real deal breaker for me ... Plus the EIS is not available for 4K videos
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https://youtu.be/KAqm5L_lGzY
Crazy not to have OIS.

Any tried the Nokia 8 with the Google Camera App?

As you guys probably know, this port of Google's Pixel app has been doing the rounds on XDA and various users report much better quality photos with it on Snapdragon devices.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-updated-zero-shutter-lag-xiaomi/
Has anyone tried this on the Nokia 8? Does it work? If yes, could you post some sample photos and comparison with Nokia's own default camera app? I'm especially interested in low-light situations.
Thank you

yes, hdr+ is giving me awesome photos.
sadly we need to edit media_profiles.xml to add profiles for slow-motion and HFR.
can't alter the system for now as there is no bootloader unlock (thus no custom recovery or root).

Thank you.
I mostly care about HDR+ so that's great to hear.

Have tried the Google camera app and I believe at the moment I get better results. The Nokia software algorithms need some work I think.
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Have tried the Google camera app and I believe at the moment I get better results. The Nokia software algorithms need some work I think.
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First pic using Google camera. Wall paper to left of TV shows texture.
2nd Picture is Nokia cam. Washed out and lack of detail to left of tv
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I will update as further messing with the camera that the night shots with flash on with the pixel are shockingly bad. The flash is not working correctly. Pictures are not being lit up enough. It's a dual tone flash on the Nokia but with pixel APK, it's not firing the brighter flash
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Which is the best version of this app to run on Nokia 8?
I think the ones linked here will be good:
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-updated-zero-shutter-lag-xiaomi/
Filename MGCB_7.0H_C2API_Min_v.1.4.apk

Konstigt said:
Which is the best version of this app to run on Nokia 8?
I think the ones linked here will be good:
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-updated-zero-shutter-lag-xiaomi/
Filename MGCB_7.0H_C2API_Min_v.1.4.apk
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Try this. It's a lot newer.

CazeW said:
Try this. It's a lot newer.
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This was a good post to get the history and to learn about the different versions.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/modded-google-camera-hdr-60fps-video-t3658552
I'd say start with the 3.8 (linked in post above, without any letter after it) version but 1.4-version will probably be fine as well.

Note to others downloading the file: The Android Download-app doesn't open APKs, you need to install a file manager app to open it.
So next question, which are the recommended settings in the app? In the 3.8 version there are tons of values you can select. HDR+ isn't enabled per default.

I tried on Nokia8 and I think no one notice that it has small color dots and line in every photo that process HDR at the bottom of picture. I tried every setting and still can't figure out how to remove. It's also appear in skip24ftlb's photo.

Seems ok the shots come out slightly better than nokia stock but the bottom of the photo has these blue and red bars (looks like some graph lines) on every photo that you point at a bright source of light and reduce the brightness on screen to absolute minimum. Happened on all photos that I took of the sunrise with heaps of bright orange clouds.
It stickout more when the bottom half of the photo is darker down the bottom.
Cheers

Skamath said:
Seems ok the shots come out slightly better than nokia stock but the bottom of the photo has these blue and red bars (looks like some graph lines) on every photo that you point at a bright source of light and reduce the brightness on screen to absolute minimum. Happened on all photos that I took of the sunrise with heaps of bright orange clouds.
It stickout more when the bottom half of the photo is darker down the bottom.
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How about using version 1.4?

chantszhim said:
How about using version 1.4?
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I am not sure which version it is there are too many digits in the file downloaded.
file name is gcam 4.4.012 blah blah blah and ends with v.1.1.apk so Is it 4.4 or 1.1. If it is 1.1 can you please direct me to 1.4
Thank you

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How about using version 1.4?
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I tested with 1.4, 1.5, 3.7, 3.8, 4.0 and all of it happens. So i think there are no other options to avoid this.

Can someone share some pictures?
There are a lot of versions of GCam modded.
On HTC U11 topic, there's a large thread where many users are debating which is the best.
Can someone take a look how does it gets on Nokia 8?
Mine still not here. Maybe on the end of the month.
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First one with flash on
Others no flash
Latest version of google cam
Camera settins not optimal.

Same settings on google camera.
First pic google cam
Second nokia 8 native app

Here is a test to compare:
1. Capture Google Camera
2. Picture with Google Camera app 8,82 mb
3. Picture with Nokia Camera app 6,83 mb

Cyperi...what settings?

Question Has Anyone Else Had This Issue Shooting 4K Video With The 3x Camera?

Here's the information on my current version and also here is a video showing the issue.
This issue only occurs when shooting in 4K. When shooting in 1080p it's absolutely fine. Which makes me think it's a software issue. I've tried resetting the camera app, clearing cache and data etc. But nothing seems to help. Is anyone else having this issue, or does anyone know a fix for it?
I've only just got the phone and finished setting it all up and when testing the camera I noticed this.
Here's another video showing the issue of shooting video using the 3x camera in 4K. As well as showing that it doesn't occur when shooting in 1080p. As some people thought it was due to low light.
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I am no expert in photography or filming, but it may well be due to physical limitations of the camera icw software and not necessarily a bug.

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I am no expert in photography or filming, but it may well be due to physical limitations of the camera icw software and not necessarily a bug.
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This is why I want to see if anyone else can replicate this or not. Then at least I'll know it's not just my device.

Same issue

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This is why I want to see if anyone else can replicate this or not. Then at least I'll know it's not just my device.
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To replicate, can you elaborate what exactly you did to make the video? (Settings in camera, how did you transition to the close-up (switch zoom/how or move the phone closer?)
I was not able to replicate and see the effect...

OnnoJ said:
To replicate, can you elaborate what exactly you did to make the video? (Settings in camera, how did you transition to the close-up (switch zoom/how or move the phone closer?)
I was not able to replicate and see the effect...
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It happens when using UHD 30 in 16:9 and starting recording in 1x, then switching to 3x to zoom in. When shooting in FHD it doesn't happen though.

Keyvannn said:
Same issue
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Was it always like this, or did an update cause it?

No1VIPER said:
Was it always like this, or did an update cause it?
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Honestly, I didn't realize this, I always used fhd

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Honestly, I didn't realize this, I always used fhd
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The other weird thing is that it doesn't happen when using UHD 30 in Full instead of 16:9 either

Not sure what is wrong here? If it is the blurriness and lack of focus when zoomed then that is normal as the 3x is too close to the subject to focus.

No issue here, in particular when I verify ability camera to focus at 3x in advance and adjus the minimum distance between object (also a watch with illuminating dial at dark wooden table) and S21U camera (G998B).
If I start too close, no good focus thus bit blurry at 3x, but no lighting issue.
My guess is that the lighting conditions in shown video are just too dim.

It's too dark and you are too close to the object for the 3x to focus properly.
The 3x has a tighter aperture and it takes in much less light than the 1x. It is only meant to be used in well lit scenarios and also not as close as you have it.
You also say it works if you shoot in FHD, so if you can also make the same video with the EXACT same conditions, do it and show us.

I've added another video to the first post now showing a comparison between the 4K and 1080p videos. Also shoot in low light to show that it's not due to that.

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It's too dark and you are too close to the object for the 3x to focus properly.
The 3x has a tighter aperture and it takes in much less light than the 1x. It is only meant to be used in well lit scenarios and also not as close as you have it.
You also say it works if you shoot in FHD, so if you can also make the same video with the EXACT same conditions, do it and show us.
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Did you see the new video I added to the first post?

No1VIPER said:
I've added another video to the first post now showing a comparison between the 4K and 1080p videos. Also shoot in low light to show that it's not due to that.
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Same issue here, Android 12 One UI 4.0, S21 Ultra Exynos variant

japanairforce99 said:
Same issue here, Android 12 One UI 4.0, S21 Ultra Exynos variant
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I wonder if it's just an Exynos issue perhaps then.

Exynos S21U, no such issue here

No1VIPER said:
Did you see the new video I added to the first post?
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I think you can mark your issue as solved and I will tell you why.
The reason that it looks fine on FHD, is because the phone does NOT switch to the 3x camera when you press the button. Since you are recording at 1080, it just crops the image smoothly. While at 4K it switches cameras and since you are too close to your object, the 3x camera does not manage to Focus. You can test this by putting your finger infront of the camera and see.
I would advice that you pull your phone 10cm back and then try this again, the 3x camera should then focus properly.

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babyboy3265 is correct. See my video from not so close to object.​

my Problem is just in UHD60 recording. i can choose between 1x ,3x or 10x before start the recording. When i start to record i dont have this 3x or 10x button any more. but in FHD or UHD30 i have it after start.