Quick question. Please read :X - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok, So the camera's 3.2 mega pixel and the video recorder records pretty low res.
Would it be possible to edit the recorder so that it can record higher res/better quality?

Or is there any apps or console commands to change this

Unfortunatly the camera is very poor and nothing will fix it. Thats all there is too it.

Ok, Well that didn't answer my question.
Any the camera isn't poor it works great, Its a bit crappy in low light but still it looks awesome and better then a 5mp camera phone from samsung.

Frito37 said:
Ok, Well that didn't answer my question.
Any the camera isn't poor it works great, Its a bit crappy in low light but still it looks awesome and better then a 5mp camera phone from samsung.
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I actually have to agree with this as I've had the G600 and that camera SUCKED no matter what PhoneArena says. I noticed i would only use the G1 for pictures so i got rid of the 600

I took a picture of my eye and then shooped the hell outta it. (I added alot of the spots and wrinkles :X)
This is a resized/croped version, Hell you can see the g1 reflection in my eye.
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Its a nice camera!

Anyone? I still would like this answered

nice fake :-D

your question was answered in post 3 but ill repeat it for you.
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Unfortunatly the camera is very poor and nothing will fix it. Thats all there is too it.
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Ok you must not be able to read.
I'm not asking about quality of the camera.
Im asking if its at all possible to make video RECORDING better or higher res.
And what do you mean by nice fake?
If ur implying the pictures fake, Its not at all fake and was taken by my g1.

It depends alot on bandwidth of memory in the device. I dont know if it is possible right now to make a better/higer quality video recorder. If Google creates API's that take advantage of the full potential of the graphics chips we may get a better camcorder app.

I updated to hero and it seems to have a bit better video recording
but thats because of the codec it uses.

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your question was answered in post 3 but ill repeat it for you.
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Seriously, read the freaking thread before saying something stupid.
As for the question, I'm sure a developer could create a new app for higher resolution video recorder because it has been done on other devices. Try requesting it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446769

just2good4u3434 said:
Seriously, read the freaking thread before saying something stupid.
As for the question, I'm sure a developer could create a new app for higher resolution video recorder because it has been done on other devices. Try requesting it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446769
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Thanks.
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No, and the reason is:
A still camera has a longer exposure time and can dedicate more light overtime for each picture. A video has to a expose an image 30 times a second, so in order to expose properly the camera must take many pixels from the ccd and group them together as 1 pixel reducing image size for video. (I could be done by reducing FPS, but that will only go so far.)
And there is also issues with video format standards and the G1 ability to play back video to consider as well.

Heck, even my Canon 5D Mark II can only record video at 1/10th of the resolution it captures still images at. It does video at 1920x1080 or 2,073,600 pixels, whereas still images are captured at 5616x3744 or 21,026,304 pixels.
I think people expect far too much from a phone that has a camera that probably cost $15 to manufacture (the camera part - not the whole phone).

No I dont exspect it to do better i just wondering if it could.

Related

camera question..

hi there. recently i notice that there are green dotss and blue dotss somewhere on the picture taken from my camera.. does this mean that there are dead pixels?? or my camera become faulty??
is there anywhere to clear all the dots tat are on the picture??
sorry my english is not so good
:shock:
i had uploaded a photo that had been taken from my camera..
please have a look, there are lotsa green dots n blue dot somewhere on the picture..
how can i solve this problem??
I've got green and red dots also on my camera. Even had it on my only previous faulty device too.
Apparently I think this happens for everyone's XDA IIi or equivalent device. Is there any experts out there who can explain the cause?
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thats called Sensor Noise! because the photo sensor on mobile devices is so small if you try and take a picture in a dark environment you'll get noise!
try taking a pic in an environment with plenty of light :wink:
if you want a decent picture spend a few $$ on a decent camera
i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
You can't upgrade the internal camera, there are no direct replacements. If you look at the Hi-res images I got of the Alpine you'll see the sort of size and shape of camera required and I very much doubt there'll be others the same or similar shape/size. If there are then you need to add the data ribbon to connect it.
Overall go to an Elec store and buy a dedicated camera.
I don't agree. Motorola V3 has a camera as small as XDAIIi and the pictures are awesome. Lenses are a determinant factor in quality. I personaly have a Canon DC20 that takes wonderfull photos but I would like to get better photos with my XDAIIi. Why not get better results wiyh ours devices? Converging functions in one device is helpfull to mobile professionals. BTW, tweaking the camera settings in registry makes the photos much better. See this forum for more information.
tlazymoon said:
i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
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I think that there is no problem on your camara. note that if you want to have a good picture you must chose the best index light in setting of the camara for example; ambience: night or flourescent... and the cature mode, cature size..
tlazymoon said:
i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
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The camera isnt that good but you are never going to get great pics from a lens that size and indoor pics are always going to be grainy without a flash tho you should be getting better pics than those you have so far
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Do a search for AtekSoft's CoolCamera. It allows quite a few more options than the default. There may be better camera replacement software out there, but I havn't found it yet.
Ateksoft is the one most Cooooooooool Camera software.....
From what I understand, O2 included a camera 'upgrade' in their extrom (which installs whenever you hard reset), which actually makes the camera quality WORSE. I've not tested it myself, as I'm quite happy with my phone setup as it is and really don't want to hard reset AGAIN, but some users report that flashing their device with the firmware which doesn't include this camera upgrade makes their camera quality better.
Also, you have to bear in mind that pretty much all cameras use cheap and nasty CMOS sensor technology (what low-quality webcams use) - the resolution and light sensitivity of CMOS technology is REALLY poor compared to CCD, but CCD tech is much more expensive and sucks up more battery power (hence CMOS technology being more widespread in the mobile industry).
Better quality cameras are starting to appear, and the quality of the k750i camera continues to astound me when I see my friends' photos. It won't be long though, I remember seeing articles about lenses made with a tiny suspension of water inbetween two nanometre-thick layers of plastic, to which an electric current could be applied to make the water change shape, acting as an optical lens... This kind of technology will drastically increase the quality and cost-effectiveness of higher-end portable, miniature camera technology, and I can't wait until it becomes widespread.

Sample photos

Could anybody post some sample photos from the kaiser camera at maximum quality settings?, maximum resolution, best jpeg compression...
thanks!
pepeto2001 said:
Could anybody post some sample photos from the kaiser camera at maximum quality settings?, maximum resolution, best jpeg compression...
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http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
eva_d said:
http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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Very good quality.
eva_d said:
http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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They are not bad at all. Colors seem a little faded though. Oh well, it's a cellphone!
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http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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Eva_d, the new photos are better than the initial ones (the ones yo uploaded to modaco forum), could you try a macro photo?, or some photos with the camera holded firmly to very near objects?, and a recorded video?
Thank youuu very much!!!!
pepeto2001 said:
Eva_d, the new photos are better than the initial ones (the ones yo uploaded to modaco forum), could you try a macro photo?, or some photos with the camera holded firmly to very near objects?, and a recorded video?
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Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.
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Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.
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That macro pics are very good, I'm beginning to think that the initial photos that werent as good as paul(modaco) samples was because of not holding the camera firmly until photo was done... isnt it?... I'm talking about imag0005, imag0006...
Nice pictures and good quality (focus/resolution).
A scan of a letter would be a other good indicator for the macro function (focus/resolution).
Maybe you can take one more photo of e.g. an advertising letter
or of a journal/magazine with text?
Thanks!
Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?
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Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?
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I must say that kind of keyboard is really convenient, I was using Nokia E61 for almost 2 months as a primary phone, and actually I liked it. But I'm back on board with WM platform.
Btw. I've uploaded example video - sorry for rotation, I did it from a mobile holder in my car. I've also uploaded close-up of texts, as requested - a little blurry tough, I should have done them from more distance.
the video looks really good... the macro shots... maybe there wasnt enought light, this phone cameras have a big shutter lag, this is the time since you press de button and the photo is really done, then, it is really important to hold steady the "camera" till the photo is on screen..
Thanks for your photos again!!
Is 320x240 the highest resolution?
Here some of my "masterpieces"
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great photos, they look very good!!!, any photo with faces?, in a crowded street or something similar..
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Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.
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Quite impressive for a cameraphone. I can't believe what I'm seeing actually.
Although http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/IMAG0039.jpg shows that the debayering algorithm used by the phone is CRAP. "maze" patterns like those seen in the sky are a known issue with the simpler interpolation algorithms. Has anyone created a camera app for HTC phones that can save raw sensor data to be given to an application such as dcraw?
pepeto2001 said:
Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?
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The slide-out keyboard has major form factor advantages (phone is smaller and keys are larger), but there are plenty of times I miss my Treo 650's non-slideout "always-there" keyboard, especially when dialing.
Palm has stagnated a lot, but the one thing where they are way ahead is in terms of "non-stylus" operation. Strange that there is a Smartphone Edition of Windows Mobile but many of its improvements are not in the version for phones with a touchscreen.
Entropy512 said:
Quite impressive for a cameraphone. I can't believe what I'm seeing actually.
Although http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/IMAG0039.jpg shows that the debayering algorithm used by the phone is CRAP. "maze" patterns like those seen in the sky are a known issue with the simpler interpolation algorithms. Has anyone created a camera app for HTC phones that can save raw sensor data to be given to an application such as dcraw?
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Sadly coolcamera doesn't work with Kaiser for some reason.
http://www.ateksoft.com/features.html
I was usually getting better pictures with coolcamera on any HTC phone.
This is a Sample Photo:
Enjoy
Nadavi
wow!, last photos are very good, they show the quality of the camera!!
One more. I did tweaked parameters a bit.

Is there any possibility to improve the camera on OB?

all the pictures are blurry and the videos taken with the camera stops eventually for half a second (I guess this is because of the stock sdcard).
Is there any possibility to improve the camera performance to get clean pictures?
Thank you in advance,
Haitzo
I've no problem with my camera (good picture) or for video recording (except strange ration for 720p).
I think it's maybe your LG black who has defect ?
I agree with guyTam
I mean with not good light conditions, all the pictures are blurry. I have read the same problem on other users. The video issue is probably because of the stock sd card.
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haitzo said:
I mean with not good light conditions, all the pictures are blurry.
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That's with all phone cameras. They only work in perfect conditions. Sensor is too small for quality photo taking. Maybe with some Carl Zeiss, yes, you will get some nice looking photos.
Does that happen when you take landscape photos or with closer objects too?
I had similar problems with video recording but since started to use NOVA ROM, I don't any more. I have stock SD card.
No problems taking photos to landscapes, just in interiors and night pictures. I am using Pays rom, do you recommend me using nova? I am reading the thread and I thinks is still a little bit buggy?
Thank you
They both work better than stock. Tried both, I like Nova ROM more because of longer (by a lot) battery life. I don't play games so I don't know if they perform different speed wise. There is some bug with SD card but that's all.
If there will be some update for camera app, it will be from LG in next update (I hope). I don't think that anyone else can make any tweaks for stock app. Maybe some other app with filters like unsharp mask in Photoshop could do the trick.
quyTam said:
I've no problem with my camera (good picture) or for video recording (except strange ration for 720p).
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that's what i've noticed also... whenever i take videos and play them on the phone's video player, it looks fine, but when i transfer it to my laptop it looks kinda weird.
btw, the 5mp camera takes very nice stills. best one i had so far.
yeah because the lens sensor is too small; ƒ, shutter speed, can't be compared to real camera & the preview is only 4 inches resized to 800x480 obviously it looks good on phone, for excellent result you may not move/shake at all while taking a shot (if it possible, use a tripod). if the outdoor light is not enough... it can't be helped. ISO adjustment just makes your result even worse. here the example for outdoor shot from my phone:
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not too good for a camera but good enough for camera phone
lesp4ul said:
not too good for a camera but good enough for camera phone
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You are perfectly right
the aspect ratio of the videos recorded needs to be fixed, im surprised that LG hasn't fixed this after so long.
would be epic if devs managed to fix this before LG does
yeomond said:
the aspect ratio of the videos recorded needs to be fixed, im surprised that LG hasn't fixed this after so long.
would be epic if devs managed to fix this before LG does
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And the video format should not 3gp. The encoded results is horrible. Blurred, grainy, and awful audio quality.
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And the video format should not 3gp. The encoded results is horrible. Blurred, grainy, and awful audio quality.
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I agree this one....the video format should be mp4.
I dont know what I did, But i just installed the stock rom after removing Nova. And surprisingly, the camera is taking awesome clicks. No speed lags for shutter/review. Aspect ratios seem fine for videos. And the video quality is amazingly improved.
Did someone just mention that Nova has better battery life ? What about pays ? hows the battery life on that ?

Asus Nexus 7 camera versus iPad 3 frontal iSight photos, what do you think?

Hi community this is my first thread open, sorry for my quite bad english but I'm not american ..
I would propose you 6 shots take by me: 3 by the my Asus Nexus 7 camera with Modaco app and 3 takets by my iPad 3 and know what you think!
Let's start!
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I have come to the conclusion that....
They're both only good for video conferencing.
veeman said:
I have come to the conclusion that....
They're both only good for video conferencing.
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You missed the fact that they both suck
Why are the ipad pictures a quarter the size? Does it have a significantly lower resolution or something??
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Hi community this is my first thread open, sorry for my quite bad english but I'm not american ..
I would propose you 6 shots take by me: 3 by the my Asus Nexus 7 camera with Modaco app and 3 takets by my iPad 3 and know what you think!
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I agree with markj338. The quality of the pictures from both cameras seems relatively poor, but that is to be expected. It was hard for me to tell if either was better but I would lean toward the N7. (I'm a little biased. What can I say?)
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You missed the fact that they both suck
Why are the ipad pictures a quarter the size? Does it have a significantly lower resolution or something??
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The pictures are almost the same size when I'm viewing them. I don't know why the iPad pictures are small for you.
Sent from my Paranoid Nexus 7
The iPad pictures are smaller for me also. And I also agree the camera is only good for conferencing. N7 does look a little better to me as well.
Why iPad 3 photos are smaller?
iPad 3 has frontal VGA Camera at 1.3 MP and pictures are at resolution 480*640p (send via mail and also imported by iPhoto it's same quality) while N7 camera is at 1.2 MP but pictures are at 1280*800p. So in forum you can see them in differently size.
Flash is not a problem, both haven't that.
Errm they are only webcams.....
What did you expect?
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Hi community this is my first thread open, sorry for my quite bad english but I'm not american ..
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Uder is right, but you do need to scrub up on your Geography.
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No but you are ****ing ignorant.
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Hey hey theres no need for that...
Back to the ACTUAL disscussion the N7 blows the iSight out of the water even for a 1.2mpx ffc that isnt supposed to be taking pictures in the first place it does a relatively good job . Thanks for comparison.
You should have resized the Nexus 7 images to the same as the iPad 3 for a fairer comparison. :good:
They look pretty similar to me. Though the camera isn't really meant for taking shots like these, so the test doesn't say much, they're really for face-to-face chatting.
The iPads color seemed washed out
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Why iPad 3 photos are smaller?
iPad 3 has frontal VGA Camera at 1.3 MP and pictures are at resolution 480*640p (send via mail and also imported by iPhoto it's same quality) while N7 camera is at 1.2 MP but pictures are at 1280*800p. So in forum you can see them in differently size.
Flash is not a problem, both haven't that.
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If you're running a comparison, the way the photos are presented matters a helluva lot.
Since this is annoying the hell out of me, I've fixed this for you.
Ok sir, no problems.
The differents sizes was another point to discuss, N7 photos resized at 640*480 can remove something in quality but ok

[Q] Xperia Z1 Record 4K videos

I was planning to get a new Xperia Z1 (but it is not released yet in my country /Iraq/ ) and I was saying
Can any Dev hack it to get it recording the 4K videos
I mean the crappy note 3 can ?? why the Z1 can`t ?? they have the same SD 800 and i don`t think the ram has any effect Because the note 3 need it to run those useless bloatware and sam`s ****s
also can it be cracked to get higher framerate like 60 [email protected] or 120 [email protected] like slowmotions videos??
+1
I have the same questions since Z1 was offically released
It's possible. Someone might hack the Z1 camera app to support 4K video and 720/1080P video at higher framerates. Although I also think it's a possibility Sony will add this with an official update.
For now we have to wait for Sony anyway, to fix their bootloader unlock. After that developers can try and add features, until then though, nothing I guess..
B1nny said:
It's possible. Someone might hack the Z1 camera app to support 4K video and 720/1080P video at higher framerates. Although I also think it's a possibility Sony will add this with an official update.
For now we have to wait for Sony anyway, to fix their bootloader unlock. After that developers can try and add features, until then though, nothing I guess..
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Yeah I would say the same, obviously something went wrong with the camera SW with all those problems so I think they dropped the 4k support in order to fix the other problems(grain and low light performance) before adding in other additional features. We all know Sony always f*ck up the first 1-3 months on their SW but after that we may well indeed see A LOT of Camera mods.
Sony always seemed to be in a rush to launch products, then release sub standard firmwares etc, good to see nothing has changed. All it does is gives them bad reviews because the people doing the reviews have buggy substandard software.
If Sony really want to get serious about being at least number 2 in the android space they need to get their act together, so when the phone is launched and tested/reviewed that the reviewers go nuts on how great everything is. Then peoples decisions are likely to be swayed.
The good news is the the hardware is capable to support 4k
What's this fascination with being able to record in 4k when the chances of anyone having a 4k display to play it back on is practically nill?
Is it bragging rights?
daleski75 said:
What's this fascination with being able to record in 4k when the chances of anyone having a 4k display to play it back on is practically nill?
Is it bragging rights?
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No, it's future proofing and innovation. I would have killed to have the 20 year old videos of me in 1080p, let alone 720p instead of crappy VHS PAL quality. If possible, I would shoot everything in 1080p 3D or 4k 3D.
Why not record in the best possible quality and then be happy in a few years because you can then enjoy it fully?
can z1 record slow motion videos
Here's an interesting piece of info, I wonder if Stuff know something we don't...
I rate Stuff pretty Informative and enjoy reading their magazine, I haven't had one for a few months so decided to download their latest magazine which came out yesterday. On page 22 there's a page on the Z1 and well as you will see from my 2nd image they've put about it "Special moves including encoding and decoding and 4K video and 7.1 virtual surround sound."
Now I know that it doesn't say the camera records in 4k and they are referring to the Snapdragon 800 chip, but saying that in the first paragraph about its features; I find this really interesting because the phone doesn't show 4k so what else would they refer to 4k?
Thoughts?
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