My roommate would like to see better battery life on his Incredible S, and is willing to let me root it, but does not want me to do anything else (install custom ROM, etc.)
Is there anything I can do with rooting that won't change his phone and yet help improve the battery life?
Rooting will not alter the phone UI or ROM in any way the only thing it does is allow your user apps to be given "super-user" rights (like system administrator in Windows). However doing the steps (s-off, obtain root) do void your warranty.
This all being said it will allow you to install programs like Set CPU and Juice Defender Pro which alter CPU variables.
If you don't mind losing your warranty or don't have one I'd say go for it.
Just purchased a Galaxy Gear Live on Craigslist and unlocked the bootloader.. Then though is it even worth installing twrp and rooting now? There are not many current custom roms to put on this thing and doesn't look like there will be much. Plus what all can you really do with an Android Wear watch that's rooted?
I'd like to know if this is worthwhile too.
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I'll pile in +1. I don't understand the point. My phone is rooted but I haven't seen any advantages or uses for rooting our watch yet.
TWRP is useful for making backups of your watch. Just make sure to reset, when you want to reset, your watch from the TWRP, or you would lose your files and backups from the memory. With root access you can underclock or overclock your cpu for better performance or longer battery life. Maybe you want to permanently add programs to your watch, so when you reset it to factory your program still remains. Or perhaps you want to modify some system config etc.
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TWRP is useful for making backups of your watch. Just make sure to reset, when you want to reset, your watch from the TWRP, or you would lose your files and backups from the memory. With root access you can underclock or overclock your cpu for better performance or longer battery life. Maybe you want to permanently add programs to your watch, so when you reset it to factory your program still remains. Or perhaps you want to modify some system config etc.
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Definitely would like to get longer battery life.. I have yet to get a full day out of my watch..
aligatro2010 said:
TWRP is useful for making backups of your watch. Just make sure to reset, when you want to reset, your watch from the TWRP, or you would lose your files and backups from the memory. With root access you can underclock or overclock your cpu for better performance or longer battery life. Maybe you want to permanently add programs to your watch, so when you reset it to factory your program still remains. Or perhaps you want to modify some system config etc.
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What files are on your watch that you would backup?
Brendo said:
What files are on your watch that you would backup?
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Mostly programs that I sideloaded. I am sure other people have music on their watch that they listen to using bluetooth headphones. Its more of a convenience than necessity. Also, its a much faster way to reset&restore your watch to a state that had all your programs already installed. Ah its also one of the easiest way to revert your firmware to a previous build.
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Mostly programs that I sideloaded. I am sure other people have music on their watch that they listen to using bluetooth headphones. Its more of a convenience than necessity. Also, its a much faster way to reset&restore your watch to a state that had all your programs already installed. Ah its also one of the easiest way to revert your firmware to a previous build.
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Since you have to have your phone anyways, why would you not just bluetooth to your phone and use Spotify? That is what I do for everything, home, work, car, etc.
m374llic4 said:
Since you have to have your phone anyways, why would you not just bluetooth to your phone and use Spotify? That is what I do for everything, home, work, car, etc.
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I think that feature is mostly for people who want to leave their phones at home and still be able to listen to music.(joggers?)
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I think that feature is mostly for people who want to leave their phones at home and still be able to listen to music.(joggers?)
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I suppose but I jogged with my phone and my watch. Used the watch for heartrate monitoring along with an app on the phone to measure speed, distance, and all that in conjunction with the phones heartrate data, while listening to music.
Hi, I bought new Xperia Z3+ and I would like to root it.
Is there any simply way how to do it? I haven't many experiences with android, because I had Lumia 930 so I prefer step by step guide.
I don't want to unlock bootloader, because I am afraid of lose warranty.
I am sorry for stupid question, but I am new here.
Many thanks
If you dont have experince to root androids, dont root z3+. Ive been playing around with android since 2.2 and will not root this phone because of the risk of loosing warranty and (for me) important drm-protected apps such as the camera. I do know that you can make back ups and such but its not worth it imo. The rom community is also rather thin and the 6.01 offical rom is really solid.
Also, the stamina mode in the phone is great (no need for lspeed, greenify, amplify) and if you want to block ads while browsing you can do it with random browswer from f-droid and such.
With Android getting more optimized and efficient, as well as more feature packed every day; Do you guys (long time rooters like me) feel that root is necessary, or could provide better performance and or battery (obviously it can, but enough to matter?)
This issue is being discussed in many threads and you had to make your own?
I gave up on root with my last phone. Too much hassle, no longer the reward that made it cost effective. And with so many apps checking for root and not working as a result, I gave it up.
My major reason for going with root was more options and functionality. Both of those have pretty much been addressed for me. I don't see the need to overclock my chip anymore, I don't really need TiBu, Tasker works for what I need it to do without root, and, with the advent of the various theme stores and apps, I don't feel the need to flash unsigned zips.
So no, I don't need to root any more. Truly have no complaints on stock anymore.
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This issue is being discussed in many threads and you had to make your own?
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That was exactly what I was thinking.
lazarus0000 said:
I gave up on root with my last phone. Too much hassle, no longer the reward that made it cost effective. And with so many apps checking for root and not working as a result, I gave it up.
My major reason for going with root was more options and functionality. Both of those have pretty much been addressed for me. I don't see the need to overclock my chip anymore, I don't really need TiBu, Tasker works for what I need it to do without root, and, with the advent of the various theme stores and apps, I don't feel the need to flash unsigned zips.
So no, I don't need to root any more. Truly have no complaints on stock anymore.
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Thanks for your input, I'm on the OG Pixel rooted, and I agree with you on newer phones. On this, it's a hassel just updating to newer security patches lol
I root for titanium backup and root explorer. Mostly TB.
I started rooting my phones with the OG droid and in the beginning root was almost a necessity I rooted my droid, droid x ,x2 , droid razr, galaxy s3 and s4 but after my s4 I switched to At&t so I could get the s6 active and the active models were never popular enough for someone in the root community to find a root exploit so I was never able to root my s6 active, s7 active or my s8 active and after going through 3 phone without being able to root I got used to the lack of root access and I also noticed all the things I needed root to do were standard features now so as much as I enjoyed the whole process of rooting my phone at this point i feel like phones dont really need root access anymore. That being said if a root exploit is found for the note 9 I would for sure give it a try, i just got my note 9 and the note line being far more popular than the active line I am hoping someone finds a root exploit just so I can play around with my note and root it for old times sake lol
with root to run exposed's xprivacy(lua) , unless there are alternatives
I choose samsung pay and pass rather then root...
Not really necessary to root now.
for adblocking system wide u can use adhell 3
for youtube adblocking u can use youtube vanced
so no need for root really
I started rooting with the OG DROID. Rooted DINC2, HTC ONE M7, GNEX, Note 3 (maybe 4 I don't remeber), S7, and S8. Like others have said. Most of my reasons for rooting have been eliminated. I only rooted my s8 for the dual speaker mod (note 9 has stereo speakers) and to use volume keys to skip music tracks and to extend battery life. I'm a regular user of YouTube Vanced and Ad Hell also. So unless some really awesome mod is made, if and when SD version gets rooted, I have no reason to root. Note 9 I get just over 20 hours of use before it dies without turning on power saving mode, and it should be noted that I use my phone for everything since I don't have a pc.
I actually got the SD note 9 with the expectation that it will not be rooted seeing that Samsung has really been making it hard the last few years.
Yes, I would not use an android without root, likewise iPhone is useless for me without jailbreaks.
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I don't really need TiBu, Tasker works for what I need it to do without root,
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Tasker? Are you kidding me? Can't even properly freeze apps with it.
Titanium Bu is still crucial to slim down the load on any android device, especially from using a stock rom.
jult said:
Tasker? Are you kidding me? Can't even properly freeze apps with it.
Titanium Bu is still crucial to slim down the load on any android device, especially from using a stock rom.
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I found in my experience that getting rid of bloat ware is more of ridding myself of an offense, rather than opening up more space in my storage. Ridding myself of Facebook, Hancom office, Samsung browser, etc, makes me feel better because it's offensive that Sammy puts that crap on the phone and, until recently, you couldn't uninstall them (still can't uninstall the browser and Samsung specific stuff). But the space they take up is miniscule - a few hundred MB at most. Sure, when 8 GB was the standard for a phone, that stuff made a bit of a difference. But now that 64 GB is the standard, and you have up to 512 available, a few hundred MB isn't a big dent. And being able to disable apps, though not as satisfying as uninstalling crapware from MY phone, gets the job done.
It's a cost / benefit analysis for me. I can spend hours rooting, uninstall all that nonsense, make a few backups, flash a few zips - that's satisfying in the same way that tinkering with my car used to be. But it introduces instability to the system, custom ROMs aren't always as polished as they should be, and closes me off from some apps that I want and won't play well with root, like Netflix, my banking app, Android Pay, etc...
So long as I can get my phone themed to get rid of that blinding whiteness (#WhiteUIMustDie!) and, IMHO, Samsung's gawd awful color scheme (straight from the 70s Halloween!), disable or uninstall the worst of the offenders (Facebook, I'm looking @ you), and have an awesome phone that's stable and does what I want, root isn't really worth it to me. Cost outweighs benefit.
Go back 5 years and that's a different story. Up until my last phone, I wouldn't even consider purchasing one that was locked down. But times have changed and I'm OK with the status quo now.
I don't really think about it anymore which is weird. The only thing I miss (which is more than just root of course) are the really creative ROM scenes of the early Note and others 4-5 or so years ago. It felt like a different space. Even jailbreaks happened with frequency.
Now the manufacturers have upped their security game but along the way they took a lot of the best features that came from early rooting and ROMs. The Note is so packed at this point it's not easy to think of additional features I need.
However, if I couldn't get system wide adblock through VPN I'd consider leaving unrootable devices.
For me root is nice to have for apps like Viper because the N8 sounds bad without it. That and things like Lucky Patcher, ad block, and quite a few other apps that allow me to turn my phone into a server.
I feel that root is still a necessity to get the maximum use out of my device. If I upgrade from my Nexus 6P to the Galaxy S10 next year, it will be with the expectation that someone out there will find a root or bootloader exploit.
Pros:
-debloat all the crapware Sammy installs
-install ROM/mod to activate flashlight with power button with screen off (absolute necessity for me)
-full Tasker support
-increase number of quick toggles
-Viper4Android (you haven't really listened to music on a phone until you've used this app)
-maintain Google/Samsung Pay support with MagiskSu
Cons:
Be careful when updating unless you're on a custom ROM.
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I choose samsung pay and pass rather then root...
Not really necessary to root now.
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I tend to agree, rooted every phone I have owned until my S8+ when I decided not to.
Same with Note 9
root is always needed imo for various reasons
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-maintain Google/Samsung Pay support with MagiskSu
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Samsung Pay isn't compatible with root, as soon as you root you trip Knox and you lose Samsung Pay forever, even if you unroot/flash stock (because Knox has been tripped once).
Hello, I'm a newbie. I've browsed the ROMs topic but since I don't understand nothing I was lost. I would like to put stock android on my Galaxy s10, will someone please link to me a guide + stock android ROM? (If what I said made any sense) trying to flee programmed obsolescence. Thank you!
I'm confused - your title says you want to root, but then your post says you want stock. And then you say you're trying to "flee programmed obsolescence:". Can you be more specific about what you are trying to do?
For stock ROM, you can easily use ODIN to do that. This has nothing to do with rooting.
Rooting can be done on some devices, not others. We'd need to know which exact model you have (eg my S10+ is an SM-G975U1)...
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I'm confused (...)
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I meant I wanted to use pure Android, no UI on top of it. I want to root because I've heard it can improve battery life and camera quality. I noticed my phone's screen wakes up randomly no notifications since I bought it, I'm suspicious this is an artifact to decrease the life span of the device. Also there is a carrier app I can't delete which sends notifications that wake up my phone and don't turn the screen off after, no matter my settings, this app I can't delete nor customize notification settings on. This also degrades battery life a lot as it not only wakes up the screen, but puts the whole phone to function and can be there woken for hours if I don't see it, it's really annoying. So I'd like to get rid of that and run pure Android. Galaxy S10 SM-G973F. Thank you for reaching.
Since you're on Exynos, I am not directly familiar with the process (I am in the USA and have a Snapdragon phone, which means we can't root as easily).
This thread seem to have info, and the second post seems quite detailed and clear: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...device-and-get-it-right-tipps-tricks.4015813/
If you have further questions about the process, you may want to ask on that thread.