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Will the Gear get ROMs? Use with other phones?

I know it's VERY early, but that 30% discount at Tmobile is tempting me. But I don't plan on getting a Note 3 or a S4. Currently I'm very happy with my LG G2, although I am considering swapping out to a Nexus 5 depending on what that ends up being.
Anyway I'm trying to find a use for the Gear without a S4/N3. Is there ANY functionality that would prove useful just running it by itself?
Do you guys anticipate any ROMs released in the future to have it work with other Android phones, or just to add stand alone functionality to it? Or is it a totally closed system and hopeless?

Right now it's an n3 or nothing. Have not heard of any roms really

spinedoc said:
I know it's VERY early, but that 30% discount at Tmobile is tempting me. But I don't plan on getting a Note 3 or a S4. Currently I'm very happy with my LG G2, although I am considering swapping out to a Nexus 5 depending on what that ends up being.
Anyway I'm trying to find a use for the Gear without a S4/N3. Is there ANY functionality that would prove useful just running it by itself?
Do you guys anticipate any ROMs released in the future to have it work with other Android phones, or just to add stand alone functionality to it? Or is it a totally closed system and hopeless?
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Right now without a compatible device to pair it to you can't even use it as a watch, as the pairing process is what sets the time etc, and there is no way to bypass the screen instructing you to pair it with your device. After it's paired it will function as a watch, camera and pedometer without being connected to the phone but that's about it. No idea on roms but I have heard Samsung will be releasing an SDK for developers to create apps for it.
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Right now it's an n3 or nothing. Have not heard of any roms really
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The app was updated so it can be installed on an S4 from the Samsung store yesterday I believe. Pretty sure it doesn't support all the functions on the S4 tho until it gets 4.3.

Could always get a gear and go into a carrier store and sync on of the GN 3 on display... Jk... Then again it may work. Lol
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koreankabachy said:
Could always get a gear and go into a carrier store and sync on of the GN 3 on display... Jk... Then again it may work. Lol
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It will work :laugh::good:

No WiFi in 5.1.1

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-wear/Dm-_S6xxtS4
I don't see the G Watch R on that list, so I expect that means no WiFi for us. Buggers.

What ticks me off the most isn't that we aren't getting Wifi, but rather LG's deception. The GWAR doesn't support it? Then tell me that LG...give me the details on why it is not possible. Granted, this probably means it DOES support Wifi, and LG just doesn't want to include it. I'm not going to write LG off, but this will definitely impact my decisions of purchasing future LG products.

Well this was expected, I'm not really angry as wifi didn't concern me, but still, I'm a bit annoyed.

Just as expected. I didn't buy the watch for wifi and for what wifi does, I'm not missing anything. Yeah, I know. But LG said it would have wifi.

Official wifi confirmed by LG!!! Only, it's gonna be arriving in the third quarter of this year. http://androidworld.nl/wearables/lg-g-watch-r-krijgt-wifi-nieuwe-losse-update/
There have been some confusion over the capabilities of LG wearable devices with the arrival of the latest version of Android Wear, currently rolling out this week. Regardless of what has been reported, the latest version of Android Wear does not automatically provide Wi-Fi support unless the device was designed with this functionality in place at the time of sale.
LG Watch Urbane is the only wearable device currently shipping with the latest version of Android Wear OS and is Wi-Fi capable out of the box. The original LG G Watch was not designed with Wi-Fi in mind and will not have this capability even after the Android Wear update. LG G Watch R will require a maintenance release patch after the Android Wear update to access Wi-Fi networks. LG engineers are preparing the patch now for availability in the third quarter.
We thank LG fans for their patience and loyalty. LG is confident in guaranteeing that their wearable experience will be second to none.
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And here the confirmation in German : http://www.android-user.de/android-...-wird-ebenfalls-wifi-funktionalitaet-bekommen
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I claim bs on this like I said before it's just to boost the urbane sales once it has been out a couple quarters they will update ours. Like others have said they showed Wi-Fi at a pre-release conference. So WiFi was in mind just skipped.

I don't buy that excuse for a second. If that was the case other watches (ie: Moto360) wouldn't get WiFi with 5.1.1. This smells like a delaying tactic to give Urbane some advantage over GWR for a couple of months.
But, hey, all in all I won't complain, we'll get WiFi after all

apparently GWR WILL get Wifi...... in Q3
apparently GWR WILL get Wifi...... in Q3
http://www.android-user.de/android-...-wird-ebenfalls-wifi-funktionalitaet-bekommen

Good find. I'm happy to wait for that if that's the accurate view. Poor communication on it though. They could have avoided all the ill feeling the uncertainty caused them.

I won't get my hopes up. But q2 would be a much better release date. Lol. Them again. I'm sure out smart watch will be ancient in less then a year. Waiting for a watch with a speaker.
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As much as a speaker sounds cool, I think the first time I hear some tool using that on the train or in the office, I will fly into an uncontrollable rage...

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As much as a speaker sounds cool, I think the first time I hear some tool using that on the train or in the office, I will fly into an uncontrollable rage...
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I have had watch with speakers...trust me, you WILL like it

Video calling

It was announced that Note 5 will get native video calling . I wonder if our Notes will get that feature too?
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I am also wondering about this. Or company users all t-mobile phones and it would be neat to video chat with each other.
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We have something even better, hangout.

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It was announced that Note 5 will get native video calling . I wonder if our Notes will get that feature too?
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The Tmobile Note 5 and S6 Edge+ both already have Video Calling.
We just got a BOH4 firmware update a couple days ago which included native video calling.
Have a great evening!

Seriously? We haven't even got the 5.1.1 update still. Keep dreaming if you think Samsung gives a crap about us Note 4 users now that they have the iPhone-esque Note 5 and are wanting all iPhone users to switch to the Note 5.
Whats worse, my girlfriends S6 Edge just updated for video calling and ALL of her icons are now "iPhone-esque" as well, with no way to change them back from what I can see. I am seriously over Samsung with their actions this year. I bought the Note 4 because I DIDN'T want an iPhone! Stop trying to copy them. Seriously. Just STOP!
And before you ask, yes, imad.
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So no video calling at least until 5.1.1 update. ?
Pp.

arunningpir8 said:
Seriously? We haven't even got the 5.1.1 update still. Keep dreaming if you think Samsung gives a crap about us Note 4 users now that they have the iPhone-esque Note 5 and are wanting all iPhone users to switch to the Note 5.
Whats worse, my girlfriends S6 Edge just updated for video calling and ALL of her icons are now "iPhone-esque" as well, with no way to change them back from what I can see. I am seriously over Samsung with their actions this year. I bought the Note 4 because I DIDN'T want an iPhone! Stop trying to copy them. Seriously. Just STOP!
And before you ask, yes, imad.
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Nova Prime. Make your launcher look the way you want it.

I know about all the launchers but it's the fact that Samsung has completely lost focus of the market they have and are now only caring about the iPhone and the people that use them and it sucks when you finally find a great phone and company and they completely do a 180 and start doing all the things you hated about the competition in the first place.

arunningpir8 said:
Seriously? We haven't even got the 5.1.1 update still. Keep dreaming if you think Samsung gives a crap about us Note 4 users now that they have the iPhone-esque Note 5 and are wanting all iPhone users to switch to the Note 5.
Whats worse, my girlfriends S6 Edge just updated for video calling and ALL of her icons are now "iPhone-esque" as well, with no way to change them back from what I can see. I am seriously over Samsung with their actions this year. I bought the Note 4 because I DIDN'T want an iPhone! Stop trying to copy them. Seriously. Just STOP!
And before you ask, yes, imad.
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She can change those icons to whatever she wants through the theme store! There's pretty much anything you can think of in there and plenty of them are free!

Aha yes my first thought as well...however this seems to be a system wide change that even changing themes will not change back. All of the icons are now "bubbled" like the iPhone. Unfortunately changing themes does not change them back :/

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So no video calling at least until 5.1.1 update. ?
Pp.
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Bump. ???
Pp.

I'd rather use Hangouts.

hangouts is crap... google infested crap

everyone has to remember, once Samsung comes out with a new phone, they forget about the previous model, for ex. Note 5 just came out, Note 4 will probably get 1 or 2 updates then its forgotten about....
they been doing that for years, just like HTC, I had just about all the HTC models starting from there first HTC T-Mobile Dash (windows phone) all the way upto the M7... and then I stopped supporting HTC, and this will be my last Samsung phone, I had the S2, S3, NOTE 2, NOTE 3, NOTE 4, and I refused to buy the Note 5....
I bought my 2nd Note 4 less than a month ago, I have my wife my Note 4 and purchased this and Moving on passed SAMSUNG,
If I have to, I will just buy freaking flip phones if I have to, all these smartphone companies come out with a new phone and forget about updating there older models...
I REALLY HATE APPLE STUFF, but one thing I do notice is that they update there devices for the older models with there updates, which is a shame that android phones don't except one.... GOOGLE PHONES.... like NEXUS devices get the updates... well will see what happens....
just frustrated with these companies selling there phones expensive and not support them after you purchase them... they make sooooo muchhhhh money for a device that is really worth less than $200 to make.... we all fall into this hype and make all the executives way to rich....
one way is to just stop buy them....

For myself video calling has never been a must have and when needed I use Skype. At the end I rather have my sd slot than native video calling. Besides its just a matter of time before one of our talented developers add it or more to their roms. Themes and Icons will always be one more reason why Android is better than IOS, in my honest opinion of course.

Well just in case anyone noticed or not, we got video calling on the Note 4 and it works. After 5.1.1 update.
Pp.

Yep, we got it with the 5.1.1 update. Meanwhile, I have no friends on Tmobile with a capable phone.

rile1564 said:
Yep, we got it with the 5.1.1 update. Meanwhile, I have no friends on Tmobile with a capable phone.
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Just ordered the wife a N4 to replace her N3 so we'll see how it works shortly.

My wife and I both have Note 4s and the video calling is AWESOME! Its fast and responsive. It has really come a long way. Qik was my first experience ever with vcalling. Hangouts was slow. I'm impressed by this new video calling.

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My wife and I both have Note 4s and the video calling is AWESOME! Its fast and responsive. It has really come a long way. Qik was my first experience ever with vcalling. Hangouts was slow. I'm impressed by this new video calling.
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What about advanced messaging? Does it work? With 3rd party sms apps?
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S5 vs. S7. Which one should I get?

I am switching from Verizon to AT&T so I need to get a new phone. Since AT&T doesn't offer Motorola smartphones, I have narrowed my choices down to the S7 and S5 (or maybe the S5 active). I have looked at the specs for both and they seem pretty close. I am not a heavy phone user, mostly just Facebook, email, Pandora, and a few games here and there. Also need a decent camera. Trying to decide if the S7 is worth the extra money over the S5. What is everyone's thoughts? Thank you.
P.S. I am not looking at the S6 due to lack of a SD card slot.

Well the S5 is 2 years old, going on 3. When I updated my wife's phone, they didn't offer the S5. I love my S5 Active, however, there will be more support for the S7, while the S5 is nearing its end of life. Also, I heard a S7 Active was right around the corner.
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My first smartphone was Samsung Galaxy S (captivate), then got S3, and now I am on S5. This probably will be my last Samsung phone combined with AT&T service.
If you have an individual plan, instead of moving to AT&T with S5 or S7, I would recommend just going to Project Fi with Nexus. When I did the math, I realized that I would actually end up saving even though my current monthly AT&T plan includes a 22% corporate discount. At the end of the day at a lower price point you will get refund on unused data, free tethering, more frequent software updates, free international service (with limits), and overall the service tends to use much less data since it better auto connects to free wifi hotspots that Google knows about. You can go with the Nexus 6P or go with the $200 Nexus 5 and do an upgrade when Nexus 7 or whatever comes out since you can pay off the phone sooner with the savings benefits.

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I am switching from Verizon to AT&T so I need to get a new phone. Since AT&T doesn't offer Motorola smartphones, I have narrowed my choices down to the S7 and S5 (or maybe the S5 active). I have looked at the specs for both and they seem pretty close. I am not a heavy phone user, mostly just Facebook, email, Pandora, and a few games here and there. Also need a decent camera. Trying to decide if the S7 is worth the extra money over the S5. What is everyone's thoughts? Thank you.
P.S. I am not looking at the S6 due to lack of a SD card slot.
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the s5 active has a 16mp camera, sdcard and can be had new for 185 from amazon. I love mine and will keep it until at least s9 are out and I can get an s7 edge for cheap

sullytrny said:
the s5 active has a 16mp camera, sdcard and can be had new for 185 from amazon. I love mine and will keep it until at least s9 are out and I can get an s7 edge for cheap
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I too love my active, however, no root means lack of roms. So marshmallow will most likely be the last update we get, unless att decides to unlock our bootloader. A better option would be to get an international s5 or s7 to unlock. I do believe they even have the active as an international model.
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YasharF said:
When I did the math, I realized that I would actually end up saving even though my current monthly AT&T plan includes a 22% corporate discount.
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That is the biggest reason I am switching. It costs me over $100 on Verizon per month. That is even with line splitting with one other person. AT&T will cost me roughly $30 per month due to line splitting with two other people.
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the s5 active has a 16mp camera, sdcard and can be had new for 185 from amazon. I love mine and will keep it until at least s9 are out and I can get an s7 edge for cheap
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Are there any major differences in the S5 vs. S5 active?
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I too love my active, however, no root means lack of roms. So marshmallow will most likely be the last update we get, unless att decides to unlock our bootloader. A better option would be to get an international s5 or s7 to unlock. I do believe they even have the active as an international model.
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I have never rooted a phone. Not even sure what that means. I am on my second smart phone now. I started with Android 2.2 and currently using 5.1

boy_welder2000 said:
Are there any major differences in the S5 vs. S5 active?
I have never rooted a phone. Not even sure what that means. I am on my second smart phone now. I started with Android 2.2 and currently using 5.1
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The s5 and s5 active have identical specs. The only difference is the active is a little more rugged. As for rooting, it's the same thing as jailbreaking an iPhone. It gives you administrative access to all parts of your phone, not just limited access. It's mainly for power users.
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boy_welder2000 said:
That is the biggest reason I am switching. It costs me over $100 on Verizon per month. That is even with line splitting with one other person. AT&T will cost me roughly $30 per month due to line splitting with two other people.
Are there any major differences in the S5 vs. S5 active?
I have never rooted a phone. Not even sure what that means. I am on my second smart phone now. I started with Android 2.2 and currently using 5.1
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If you're into Health the active has a heartbeat monitor. And it's a little more rugged. And it has a dedicated camera key
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I'm a huge Samsung fan. All of my consumer products have become Samsung as all of my hosting / webTech is HP.
As I do wish they would quit dropping the ball and put out that 1 "here's for you world" dev phone with it all, i dont honeatly foresee it. (S5 lacks sufficient ram, S6 not even gonna start, S7 locked bootloader, seemingly salvation S7 international dropped NFC).
Now onto the discussion, of all of the options available, i see no question. Forward moving with forward support points to the S7 Edge. Personally, im grabbing the international exynos version as my NFC only gets used to tinker with tags here and there. I have to play with and mod everything. Example: today i bought a 5 Bay Sata NAS enclosure. First things first, all screws out. Nice heatsink, hmm, no chipset fan.....this simply will not do. 45 minutes later and she's purring cool awaiting my infinite search requests for classic endless terms like root, rom, hashcode and it's favorite ".zip".
I'm curious if my S7 will overtake my collection of warranty voided and in some cases paperweightes S5's. All in all, if you're a remotely busy person on your phone, the S7 ram is more than worth it. But......if you watch a lot of TV, go S5 - Samsung felt the IR blaster was too passe for a flagship device.
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I hadn't noticed this rom has my T-Mo S5 Device ID as a,.... is that Note5? Ha, love it.
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Thank you for all the input. I am going to try to go and check out phones after work today. Now I know what to look at.

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I too love my active, however, no root means lack of roms. So marshmallow will most likely be the last update we get, unless att decides to unlock our bootloader. A better option would be to get an international s5 or s7 to unlock. I do believe they even have the active as an international model.
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But then all the wallet app"s will not work

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But then all the wallet app"s will not work
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Well, yes, that's a trade-off. I would rather have root over NFC.
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But then all the wallet app"s will not work
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Well, yes, that's a trade-off. I would rather have root over NFC.
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I agree. I dont need the wallet as in my small town in rural Tennessee, there are only 3 retailers that take it. everything else is swipe and go. I am about due for an upgrade. 2 years on my s5 and it is well.. old. been a great device. I personally will be very hesitant to grab the S7. Since work pays for it, I may look at a non samsung device. maybe even HTC or a Nexus. Root to me is essential because of the ability to truly customize and debloat.

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I agree. I dont need the wallet as in my small town in rural Tennessee, there are only 3 retailers that take it. everything else is swipe and go. I am about due for an upgrade. 2 years on my s5 and it is well.. old. been a great device. I personally will be very hesitant to grab the S7. Since work pays for it, I may look at a non samsung device. maybe even HTC or a Nexus. Root to me is essential because of the ability to truly customize and debloat.
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In rural Oklahoma it's the same. In the city I work 30 minutes away takes more NFC. Even then I still find myself using my card. Man you're lucky with work paying for the phone. My job gets me 22% of my AT&T bill.
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I think on S7, the Samsung Pay feature is different than the NFC wallet and works with any point of sale credit card reader even in small towns. From my understanding S7 has some specialty hardware that mimics electromagnetic signature of credit card's magnetic strip when held next to ordinary traditional credit card swipe readers. http://www.samsung.com/us/samsung-pay The specialty hardware was as result of acqusition of LoopPay by Samsung. http://blogs.wsj.com/personal-techn...samsungs-looppay-mobile-payment-system-works/

G Watch R in 2017

Hey guys,
I'm looking forward to buy my first smartwatch and I like the design of the G Watch R a lot? Is it still a good option to buy a used G Watch R?
I'm using a Oneplus 3T.
Greetings

Passi0509 said:
Hey guys,
I'm looking forward to buy my first smartwatch and I like the design of the G Watch R a lot? Is it still a good option to buy a used G Watch R?
I'm using a Oneplus 3T.
Greetings
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I like mine a lot. But tbh, it's an aging piece of tech. Better you bought something newer if you can afford it. If it's a budget buy, go for it.
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Zzz73 said:
I like mine a lot. But tbh, it's an aging piece of tech. Better you bought something newer if you can afford it. If it's a budget buy, go for it.
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Can you name me some aspects which have improved in newer smartwatches? Thanks

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Can you name me some aspects which have improved in newer smartwatches? Thanks
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Honestly i haven't researched specs in a while. but i would imagine after 2 years processor, amount of storage, and battery life would be noticably better in a new gen device. larger storage will be a bigger deal on 2.0 with some apps being stand-alone on the watch.
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Honestly i haven't researched specs in a while. but i would imagine after 2 years processor, amount of storage, and battery life would be noticably better in a new gen device. larger storage will be a bigger deal on 2.0 with some apps being stand-alone on the watch.
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I see. But I think that the smartwatch does not need that much power, does it? I don´t want to play games on it haha.
With custom roms it is also up-to-date?
I´m just not able to pay 250+€ for a smartwatch, I would be able to get a G Watch R for like 100€.
Greetings

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I see. But I think that the smartwatch does not need that much power, does it? I don´t want to play games on it haha.
With custom roms it is also up-to-date?
I´m just not able to pay 250+€ for a smartwatch, I would be able to get a G Watch R for like 100€.
Greetings
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Yes i buy today this watch and its perfect mate and watch will get android wear 2.0 which is nice.
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Passi0509 said:
Can you name me some aspects which have improved in newer smartwatches? Thanks
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Zzz73 said:
Honestly i haven't researched specs in a while. but i would imagine after 2 years processor, amount of storage, and battery life would be noticably better in a new gen device. larger storage will be a bigger deal on 2.0 with some apps being stand-alone on the watch.
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Android wear smartwatches actually haven't come very far at all. With some of the newer smartwatches you'll get GPS and speaker functionality. Apart from that battery life will be roughly the same or worse(due to gps etc) and the processor is identical just physically smaller so devices can be thinner. If you want a smartwatch now choose one based on aesthetics and capability to run android wear 2.0 (which the G watch R will).

For now, I think the G Watch R and the newer smartwatches are not so different. Same cpu, same memory same batteries... But the next gen should bring important improvements such as speakers and nfc, at least.

Passi0509 said:
Hey guys,
I'm looking forward to buy my first smartwatch and I like the design of the G Watch R a lot? Is it still a good option to buy a used G Watch R?
I'm using a Oneplus 3T.
Greetings
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There is no doubt about LG G R one of the best watches released so far. But i would rather recommend Asus zen watch 3 or any other watch release recently.
This is to make sure that you get update at least for next 2 to 3 years. And also i would recommend watches with speaker.

Got a used one for 85 euros now

I bought mine about 3 months ago. There isn't any recent custom roms for it. That kinda sucks but for a smartwatch, it seems fine especially for the difference in the amount of $ you'll spend on something new. Its even still receiving updates as of the other day. Go for it!!!

i just miss a speaker on the g watch r.. you dont hear alarms or anything else if you dont wear the watch.

Hi guys, I've just received update to M1D65H...just wondering what's new, because watch doesn't let me update them for low battery . I assume it is not already a Wear 2.0 update as build number still starts with "M" letter.

I don't get any update :crying:

Meh...just February security update

fimfadimpa said:
Hi guys, I've just received update to M1D65H...just wondering what's new, because watch doesn't let me update them for low battery . I assume it is not already a Wear 2.0 update as build number still starts with "M" letter.
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Its not 2.0, just updated mine

Anybody in EU selling theirs R watch?

robimarko said:
Anybody in EU selling theirs R watch?
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my friend is selling in Finland. i can ask him

igni.selvaraj said:
my friend is selling in Finland. i can ask him
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