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1st Day 1st Impession

Nice device but the drop down menu is nasty and the stock keyboard leaves something to be desired The stock launcher is also driving me nuts (no landscape). Rooting the thing was also a nightmare but I suspect 2 of my 3 my PCs were the culprit. I finally rooted and tested the N7 against my Tf101 Transformer and a little disappointed that FF7 plays identical on the new Tegra3. Perhaps FPse isn't taking advantage of the new cores. Meh.
I bought the tablet last night on a whim. I walked into staples and they had a bunch. Overall the build quality is great. Feels like a stout little tablet. I'm just not sold on the Phablet mode. I already have a GalaxyNexus and it kinda just feels like a large version of that.
I definitely am going to try tablet mode and a new keyboard (thumb keyboard was my choice on the 10"). I also recommend just unlocking ASAP just so you don't lose everything if you decide to root in the future.
Overall the device is a good buy for the $$ but just a heads up for new owners with prior tablet experience that it feels a little off from other tablets IMO. This doesn't have to be a bad thing.
I was pretty impressed with the battery even for through the night. I picked it up at 5pm and was pretty much constantly on it testing and rooting and testing until 3am. I gave it a good charge over night so well see how today goes.
Now if the awesome devs here can somehow get HDMI out working, I'd be set.
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How is rooting a nightmare
Adb reboot bootloader
Fastboot oem unlock
Fastboot flash recovery xxx.tar
Adb push su.zip /sdcard/
Adb reboot recovery
How hard is that?
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Don't know what your problem is.
For the price there is nothing to complain about whatsoever.
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WOW, rooting was hard?
If that was really the case, you really shouldn't bother. Some people shouldn't have root.
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Easy, guys. OP said his PCs were the reasons for the rooting nightmare. Probably ADB drivers or something.
And OP is just telling the community a few observations. I hardly think this is a complaint thread.

Drivers exactly... plus Windows 8. And for the record rooting has never been the problem... just driver issues. Plus if you look at my signature, you'd tell I've been around.
Anyway that said, the thread was just posting my initial thoughts and woes for new owners. Windows 8 is the future and its driver protection crap is horrible. If you guys actually found the steps for installing the drivers on windows 8, you'd know it wasn't an easy process. You basically have to reboot the Pc in a special mode that disables this security feature and really hack around with it. The Galaxy Nexus drivers went in without s hitch so it boils down to infancy drivers that aren't signed properly.
It IS an issue, just not for you guys apparently.
Overall once the drivers were locked in, yea ADB commands are cake... or use the 1 click app that's available.
Anyway, after replacing the stock keyboard to my fav Thumbs Keyboard and some heavy gaming, I got over 9 hours with almost 6 screen on time. The 7" form factor fits in my cargo pocket of my shorts and very easy to tote. Very nice tablet.
Missing HDMI out. And the screens whites have a red tint compared to my Transformer. Both, hopefully can be resolved by some custom kernels.
Thanks for the unneeded ball busting comments
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Dude, you've had it for ONE DAY.
Give it a week and let us know if you have put it down yet.
Talk to us then.
Thank You.

currentsupply said:
Dude, you've had it for ONE DAY.
Give it a week and let us know if you have put it down yet.
Talk to us then.
Thank You.
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Don't Initial thoughts typically happen within the first day... right? Isn't that the topic of this thread? Initial Impressions...
I currently own a Nook Tablet, Asus Transformer, Samsung Galaxy 7, Galaxy Nexus, and a Nexus 7. I think I am more then experienced in Android devices to make educated comparisons between units. Nothing is really negative anyway. Battery life is stellar, even for the first day. I got over 6 hours while gaming. I'm liking the N7... alot.
This thread is about me sharing my experience with others. I don't understand why everyone is negative Nancy in here.
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Hence you don't get Windows 8

player911 said:
Don't Initial thoughts typically happen within the first day... right? Isn't that the topic of this thread? Initial Impressions...
I currently own a Nook Tablet, Asus Transformer, Samsung Galaxy 7, Galaxy Nexus, and a Nexus 7. I think I am more then experienced in Android devices to make educated comparisons between units. Nothing is really negative anyway. Battery life is stellar, even for the first day. I got over 6 hours while gaming. I'm liking the N7... alot.
This thread is about me sharing my experience with others. I don't understand why everyone is negative Nancy in here.
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My first three days with the device I didn't think it was a big deal, what's the fuss all about. But I haven't put it down since. I just love to pick it up and use it.
At first I thought it was just basically a big Galaxy Nexus (it really is) but that extra screen space sure is nice. Anyway dude, give it some time and if your anything like me you will get a lot of use out of it.

Really?! It's like everyone's getting upset because you basically said the N7 isn't 100% perfect. I just ordered a Nexus 7 a few hours ago, so I appreciate the post. I'll be the first to NOT bust your balls ( leave that to the old lady right? )
I'm glad you mentioned the sorta phone UI...every time I look at the home screen I cringe, and I was wondering what was up with it. I didn't really plan on running the stock launcher much, but I had no idea it was portrait only ( wtf? ) now I KNOW I'll never use it. Thanks for thoughts.

Jesus Christ.... How come there are so many haters in XDA nowadays?
OP have an opinion...and his info on rooting with Windows 8 is great.
BlackDino said:
How is rooting a nightmare
Adb reboot bootloader
Fastboot oem unlock
Fastboot flash recovery xxx.tar
Adb push su.zip /sdcard/
Adb reboot recovery
How hard is that?
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Warren_Orange said:
Don't know what your problem is.
For the price there is nothing to complain about whatsoever.
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krelvinaz said:
WOW, rooting was hard?
If that was really the case, you really shouldn't bother. Some people shouldn't have root.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Dude, you've had it for ONE DAY.
Give it a week and let us know if you have put it down yet.
Talk to us then.
Thank You.
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lanwarrior said:
Jesus Christ.... How come there are so many haters in XDA nowadays?
OP have an opinion...and his info on rooting with Windows 8 is great.
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That's cause there are lots of children on xda and they act weird when it's past their bed time.
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Android is upgrading/starting apps.

Everytime i rebbot my phone i get this, its rally annoying. Any way to stop it?
Sent from my Nexus 7

Only thing I can think of is to download 4.1.1 and reflash it through CWM.
Sent from my G2x still on GB

leelaa said:
Everytime i rebbot my phone i get this, its rally annoying. Any way to stop it?
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Return it to stock and stop fudging around with it.

mi7chy said:
Return it to stock and stop fudging around with it.
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All i have done is put a kernel on it, wich is all i need.
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leelaa said:
All i have done is put a kernel on it, wich is all i need.
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No you don't. Flash back to stock and enjoy.
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leelaa said:
Everytime i rebbot my phone i get this, its rally annoying. Any way to stop it?
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Obviously the kernel you installed is not working.

Well ive flashed stock, rooted again, put the same kernel back on and the problem has gone.
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leelaa said:
Well ive flashed stock, rooted again, put the same kernel back on and the problem has gone.
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So you didn't need us then did you?

Yes actualy i did, you see some people use these forums to see if there is a simpler way to do things, in my case i did not want to.....back up my stuff (9 gigs worth) flash stock reboot, setup my account, ota update, root, flash kernel and then restore my stuff for something stupid. But i did. Maybe i should not bother asking on here again becuse no one on here ever has the same problems as anyon else and knows how to sort them do they?
Sent from my Nexus 7

RULE #1 ALWAYS RETURN TO STOCK TO RULE OUT WHAT EVER CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE ARE NOT CAUSING THE ISSUE
It really irks me to think how many units have been RMA'd and the consequences of increased cost of future devices because noobs don't have the common sense to follow this basic rule.
Mods can you please make a sticky?

mi7chy said:
RULE #1 ALWAYS RETURN TO STOCK TO RULE OUT WHAT EVER CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE ARE NOT CAUSING THE ISSUE
It really irks me to think how many units have been RMA'd and the consequences of increased cost of future devices because noobs don't have the common sense to follow this basic rule.
Mods can you please make a sticky?
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I aint a noob you know, the nexus 7 is not my first device. And its not like i am on a custom rom. And also if this so called rule 1 is the case, why dors anyone else post problems they have with theres? Get a grip lad and do one.
Mods close this thread. It now seems to be getting troled.
Sent from my Nexus 7

Do you have any apps that clear your dalvik cache /cache that might be doing that at boot?
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leelaa said:
I aint a noob you know, the nexus 7 is not my first device. And its not like i am on a custom rom. And also if this so called rule 1 is the case, why dors anyone else post problems they have with theres? Get a grip lad and do one.
Mods close this thread. It now seems to be getting troled.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Don't listen to them. Tons of trolls out tonight, glad you got your setup working and if you need anything else please don't hesitate to post your question or issue.
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mi7chy said:
RULE #1 ALWAYS RETURN TO STOCK TO RULE OUT WHAT EVER CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE ARE NOT CAUSING THE ISSUE
It really irks me to think how many units have been RMA'd and the consequences of increased cost of future devices because noobs don't have the common sense to follow this basic rule.
Mods can you please make a sticky?
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How many units have been rma'ed because of this? it must have been a lot since its been out of week. Chill out if you don't have anything useful to say ignore the thread. Its way easier to not even bother than it is to be a jerk
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BrianDigital said:
How many units have been rma'ed because of this? it must have been a lot since its been out of week. Chill out if you don't have anything useful to say ignore the thread. Its way easier to not even bother than it is to be a jerk
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Thank you sir. My thoughts exacly. I did not see this as a good enough reason to wipe 9 gig off my tablet and have to put it al back again, nit to mention all the stuff you hve to do before it, for somethin stupid.
Sent from my Nexus 7

miketoasty said:
Don't listen to them. Tons of trolls out tonight, glad you got your setup working and if you need anything else please don't hesitate to post your question or issue.
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Thank you for the reply.
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mi7chy said:
RULE #1 ALWAYS RETURN TO STOCK TO RULE OUT WHAT EVER CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE ARE NOT CAUSING THE ISSUE
It really irks me to think how many units have been RMA'd and the consequences of increased cost of future devices because noobs don't have the common sense to follow this basic rule.
Mods can you please make a sticky?
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Useful information.
Anyway, it's happening to me and I haven't found a solution. I did read this thread though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20540860&postcount=9
I'm guessing it's normal for him... but OP says it's gone.
weird.

Wow i forgot all about this thread. I flashed stock and it fixed it, after that i did a little reading through google and i found that there is nothing wrong when this is happening. Although it shouldn't really do it. But its ok, just more of an annoyance.
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leelaa said:
Yes actualy i did, you see some people use these forums to see if there is a simpler way to do things, in my case i did not want to.....back up my stuff (9 gigs worth) flash stock reboot, setup my account, ota update, root, flash kernel and then restore my stuff for something stupid. But i did. Maybe i should not bother asking on here again becuse no one on here ever has the same problems as anyon else and knows how to sort them do they?
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your n7 cleaned his cache with every reboot
i think you can implement this into your startup script obviously it is too late to find it out now but i think we could have fixed it without complete wipe although if ,,you'' played around with your system without knowing it it is a good time to do a full wipe.
that s how i do it with my phones and tablets: it behaves in a way i don't expect it to do -> wipe.
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PSA: Galaxy SII now $199 on HSN

OK I have a birthday tomorrow and as a present I am moving on to the Galaxy SII (yes, it's FINALLY my turn to say that!). $199 was too good to refuse, especially with 4 flexpays of $50. Two years of battling the Exhibit are enough, wouldn't you say? Anyway I will miss the forum around here a bit, even though we've had a number of departures over the past year. If it wasn't for the good folks in this community the Exhibit would have been retired LONG ago for me. Frankly without a custom ROM/kernel it is a POS device. No other way to put it! At least we have one or two new guys on the block to carry on for those who still have this phone or just got it. I wish them luck. As for myself I can't wait to try all the things that are available on XDA for this device. Hope I don't flash more ROMs than I did for the Exhibit or I will have no life left, LOL.
Anyway for those who are interested, go here for the deal: http://www.hsn.com/products/samsung-galaxy-sii-no-contract-smartphone-t-mobile/7334966
A couple months they ran out and just now got these phones back in stock. At that price I bet they don't have them for long.

Good deal. Glad you are getting something you want, it'll be sad to see you go. You've always been helpful, and generously shared your experience with testing and results. So for that thank you.
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Artful!!! I know I will miss having you around, that is a good deal, if they have them on pay day my wife will be very happy Lol. She's still on the S1
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tazmaniondvl said:
Artful!!! I know I will miss having you around, that is a good deal, if they have them on pay day my wife will be very happy Lol. She's still on the S1
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Thanks man. Unfortunately HSN just raised the price back up to $249, same as they have it on Amazon. Man glad I didn't procrastinate anymore like I always do. Funny thing is I watched the video presentation they did on TV and I'm thinking how many more they could sell if they promoted the fact you can root & get the latest ROMs out there. Of course if they did that people would know they can get rid of that bloatware! Just think of the poor sheep who will just keep stock ICS on it.

ArtfulDodger said:
Thanks man. Unfortunately HSN just raised the price back up to $249, same as they have it on Amazon. Man glad I didn't procrastinate anymore like I always do. Funny thing is I watched the video presentation they did on TV and I'm thinking how many more they could sell if they promoted the fact you can root & get the latest ROMs out there. Of course if they did that people would know they can get rid of that bloatware! Just think of the poor sheep who will just keep stock ICS on it.
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I think that rooting is beyond the scope of most people's interest. As it also voids any warranty, the manufacturer would be slightly against HSN promoting the practice, is my guess.
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Proud2banoob said:
I think that rooting is beyond the scope of most people's interest. As it also voids any warranty, the manufacturer would be slightly against HSN promoting the practice, is my guess.
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Oh yeah, sure that's part of it too. Sadly you're right, most people probably wouldn't want to make effort to make their phone better than it is. Too much thinking involved!

Which is good for me, as it means phones which have already been rooted sell for less on eBay. Saving me money and hassle.
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ArtfulDodger said:
Just think of the poor sheep who will just keep stock ICS on it.
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It probably comes with stock 4.1.2.
I don't think you are going to be disappointed. It is an awesome phone still.

If I had one I'd root it and get CyanogenMod
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meekrawb said:
It probably comes with stock 4.1.2.
I don't think you are going to be disappointed. It is an awesome phone still.
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They said 4.0 on the commercial and on the website. A friend of mine has one and it has ICS on it. No matter because it will be rooted and updated when I get it. Question will be whether or not to go with a 4.2.2 rom or KitKat. So many apps need to catch up to ART and the whole 4.4 OS system.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Exhibit running AOIP.

Yes. There still needs to be some development before I move to 4.0. I'm very interested, once the system had been around a bit. I don't usually get the x.0 version of any software. To many issues.
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Sorry. 4.4.... Brain fart.
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S2 has arrived
Well the phone is finally here so it's goodbye to the Exhibit! Thanks to so many who made the Exhibit a tolerable phone and were a pleasure to have banter/discussions with here in the Exhibit forum. Shout outs and thank you's to @camcory, @jocala, @Tim1928, @smartguy044, @bpear96, @detett, @tazmaniondvl, @meekwrb, @Dvarl, @CoolLoL1999, @[email protected], @jrleathers, @Bloodflame (aka "Flames of Blood"), @afwolfpacked (aka "Airwolf"), @cars1189, and @Jaws4God. @jfbs good luck to you, you will be the last salvation for this phone. @Proud2banoob good luck in learning the ropes!
BTW if I forgot somebody it wasn't on purpose. Now on to the hard work of rooting and finding a ROM for the new phone. Hopefully I will settle on one or two but if my experience with the Exhibit showed anything it was a penchant for being a fairweather ROM user!:laugh: I may stop by here every now and then too, afterall I haven't given the Exhibit away to anybody yet.
Lastly if it was one thing I got out of using this phone, it was to appreciate a really good phone once I got it.

ArtfulDodger said:
Lastly if it was one thing I got out of using this phone, it was to appreciate a really good phone once I got it.
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hah hah! Congrats sir on the new phone.
I went ahead and plunked some coin for a Nexus 5. It has some sound bugs (some sound is fine with some apps and not others) and the vibration isn't as strong on key presses (but in other areas is fine and a tester app I found shows the vibration motor is fine). Meh, the speed just kicks butt! Also, having 2G of RAM is ..... awesome. The quad core ... anyway .. you get the idea.
I am still thinking of which ROM to put on ... I had cyanogenmod on my other phone and I loved it ... but they're not quite ready.
Take care and thanks for writing man!
-pablo

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hah hah! Congrats sir on the new phone.
I went ahead and plunked some coin for a Nexus 5. It has some sound bugs (some sound is fine with some apps and not others) and the vibration isn't as strong on key presses (but in other areas is fine and a tester app I found shows the vibration motor is fine). Meh, the speed just kicks butt! Also, having 2G of RAM is ..... awesome. The quad core ... anyway .. you get the idea.
I am still thinking of which ROM to put on ... I had cyanogenmod on my other phone and I loved it ... but they're not quite ready.
Take care and thanks for writing man!
-pablo
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Ah c'mon, you know you want to sell that Nexus and go back to the Exhibit along with some RebelROM! LOL.

ArtfulDodger said:
Ah c'mon, you know you want to sell that Nexus and go back to the Exhibit along with some RebelROM! LOL.
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I still have that little phone ... my oldest boy has it and the RebelROM runs mostly well .... same as wifey.

ArtfulDodger said:
Ah c'mon, you know you want to sell that Nexus and go back to the Exhibit along with some RebelROM! LOL.
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Augh! RebelROM!!! I'm having a PTSD flashback! AD, it was good to work with you. You taught me a lot. Good luck. I will try to nab one of those Galaxy Lights to use as a DD, so i can keep playing with the Exhibit. It's a solid little phone and good learning tool. I wish you all the best and don't forget us!

I know I haven't been active in the exhibit community . But I'm glad you guys enjoyed RebelRom so much . Enjoy your nexus 5!
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I know I haven't been active in the exhibit community . But I'm glad you guys enjoyed RebelRom so much . Enjoy your nexus 5!
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It's really good to hear from you man, and yes RebelROM was hands down the best GB ROM this phone ever had. People here can testify how many times I went back to it every time I got frustrated with one of the ICS ROMs back in the day.

Lol I just came back from rebel Lol, ran great but I sure did miss all the features of newer ROMs. But I like that galaxy light as well quad core with 1gb ram sounds a ton better then this lol
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@ArtfulDodger...
Man, I'm gonna miss seeing you around here because I don't say much and when things got a little quiet , you were still there, keeping the ball rolling. Everything ends at some point and I'm just waiting for the day this place turns into a ghost town. At least some awesome devs left us in a pretty.good spot. Also, thanks for all your help as you were part of making this phone great as well.
Good luck fellow Kentuckian!
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Safestrap! Could we keep it alive?

Hello everyone,
As you all know, Hashcode has stopped supporting safestrap (as he mentioned in his last post in the safestrap thread. Good luck to him on his new career and many many thanks for the amazing safestrap). Now it's time for our existing developers to chime in and get the lead and keep the project running for us (at least the AT&T note 3 community. If they can go further, that's even better). I'm asking all of my friends/brothers here on the note 3 community that have the skills for it to jump in and mess with safestrap and see what they can do. I know for sure that we have a very good number of very smart devs here who can definitely make something happen.
Thank you in advance!

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Hello everyone,
As you all know, Hashcode has stopped supporting safestrap (as he mentioned in his last post in the safestrap thread. Good luck to him on his new career and many many thanks for the amazing safestrap). Now it's time for our existing developers to chime in and get the lead and keep the project running for us (at least the AT&T note 3 community. If they can go further, that's even better). I'm asking all of my friends/brothers here on the note 3 community that have the skills for it to jump in and mess with safestrap and see what they can do. I know for sure that we have a very good number of very smart devs here who can definitely make something happen.
Thank you in advance!
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Questions! Could we keep them in the correct forum?
Lol. Note 4 is coming out. Safestrap would be wanted more over there as it will arrive completely stock and locked down. SS for Note 3 seems to be working perfectly fine the way it is. However, I don't use it much anymore.

Delakit said:
Questions! Could we keep them in the correct forum?
Lol. Note 4 is coming out. Safestrap would be wanted more over there as it will arrive completely stock and locked down. SS for Note 3 seems to be working perfectly fine the way it is. However, I don't use it much anymore.
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Well, that's true, but we are also gonna be getting more updates. We are not going to just stay on 4.4.2 forever, right? Lol

Both of you have great point but it's not who needs it more. We all need it for our devices. I hope we can find someone to pick up the torch.
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The only reason we would need an update is if we were to get Android L, but I'm not holding my breath for that one, specially since the note 4 is supposed to be released with kit kat, and then it will probably update to L. It would be awesome if we would get the android update!
RoloRacer on DynamiKat Note3

I don't understand how come people don't expect high spec flagship devices to get updates.... We will have it.
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mrkhigh said:
I don't understand how come people don't expect high spec flagship devices to get updates.... We will have it.
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I always wonder the same. Once a new phone comes out, people think their current phone is garbage. Note 3 will still be a flagship kickass phone for at least 4 years from now IMO. Very high specs that can keep up with so many updated to come.

Every phone I've ever had I had the latest os long before it was officially released. I'm not waiting on att for it.

K-Alzwayed said:
Well, that's true, but we are also gonna be getting more updates. We are not going to just stay on 4.4.2 forever, right? Lol
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None that will be affective enough. Who knows, especially with what I've seen in the past, we could very well stay on 4.4.2 forever.
lildoggs said:
Both of you have great point but it's not who needs it more. We all need it for our devices. I hope we can find someone to pick up the torch.
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Nobody really needs it. It's a desire, correct? Regardless, I'm fairly certain that people will be grabbing the Note 4 and checking for any immediate possibilities. Time will tell.

Delakit said:
None that will be affective enough. Who knows, especially with what I've seen in the past, we could very well stay on 4.4.2 forever.
Nobody really needs it. It's a desire, correct? Regardless, I'm fairly certain that people will be grabbing the Note 4 and checking for any immediate possibilities. Time will tell.
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I highly doubt that there will be root for the note 4 right away. It will definitely take a very long time if not never.

K-Alzwayed said:
I highly doubt that there will be root for the note 4 right away. It will definitely take a very long time if not never.
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I can guarantee there won't be root for quite some time. That's why I stated that people will want Safestrap on Note 4, not the Note 3 that already has a fairly stable version. Stable enough, that is. Time will tell.

Why do we guarantee no root. You people make statements without merit
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Gezzz lots of older phones still get updates. I'm still thinking at some point we will see a bootloader hack

No worries. The Alliance Team is gonna try to pick up SS for everyone.

RErick said:
No worries. The Alliance Team is gonna try to pick up SS for everyone.
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Hells to the yes. NOW I feel good. Thank you so much.

RErick said:
No worries. The Alliance Team is gonna try to pick up SS for everyone.
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thanks a lot peopple..... !!!!!

long time no talk

Hello everybody!
Yes its been like for ever since i broke my HTC First and moved on and since then ive had an Atrix HD and now have a Red Nexus 5. Running lollipop.
But still i look back to this phone and still think this is probably the best phone ive owned. All day battery, great size and build quality, stock android. Yes development was always a minus, but still.
How is everyone doing?
PS: thinking of getting my sister an HTC First, its a pretty solid device hardware wise and she doesnt care much about software, she is using an old ipod touch and an ipad, shes tired of ios

Good to see someone else converting to the Android master race > lol. I agree with the fact that the battery generally lasted all day, but the lack of speed is what caused me to want to get something better. But yeah it was a good device when I came from a MyTouch 3G and then 3 Windows Phones.
Off topic here, are you seeing any drop in battery life on the official Lollipop update on your N5 compared to an AOSP version from a few days ago?
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procitysam said:
Good to see someone else converting to the Android master race > lol. I agree with the fact that the battery generally lasted all day, but the lack of speed is what caused me to want to get something better. But yeah it was a good device when I came from a MyTouch 3G and then 3 Windows Phones.
Off topic here, are you seeing any drop in battery life on the official Lollipop update on your N5 compared to an AOSP version from a few days ago?
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Haha I've converted to android since 2011 and my sister never likes apple anyways.
Miss this community so much, looks like everyone has left like Abraham and loir.
Um at first battery life was more like battery death but after a reboot and full charge I did manage to get my minimum of 4 hours screen on time. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get 5 hours.
I was thinking moto g, vs the HTC first, but I haven't found anything in it that is better than in the First. Especially for my sis who has really small hands surprisingly (she's 5 years younger but as big as me and I'm 19...)

still using my First and still hoping to get at least KitKat so that i can pair with android wear...
but looks like no luck and i have to change my phone soon.
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but seriously between first and Moto G, i'll get the moto G
at least you get official Lollipop support. 5 hrs SOT.
The 1st gen Moto G size is not that much bigger than the 1st

DecaPix said:
still using my First and still hoping to get at least KitKat so that i can pair with android wear...
but looks like no luck and i have to change my phone soon.
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but seriously between first and Moto G, i'll get the moto G
at least you get official Lollipop support. 5 hrs SOT.
The 1st gen Moto G size is not that much bigger than the 1st
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Yes you get software support..but this isn't for me. Its for my sister and plus I'd like to get back into hacking and stuff cause with a nexus you don't really want to tinker much

russian392 said:
Haha I've converted to android since 2011 and my sister never likes apple anyways.
Miss this community so much, looks like everyone has left like Abraham and loir.
Um at first battery life was more like battery death but after a reboot and full charge I did manage to get my minimum of 4 hours screen on time. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get 5 hours.
I was thinking moto g, vs the HTC first, but I haven't found anything in it that is better than in the First. Especially for my sis who has really small hands surprisingly (she's 5 years younger but as big as me and I'm 19...)
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Yeah Lloir is no longer here since he bricked his First so he just upgraded to something else. Jmz is no longer here, and I'm not sure if sun_dream is here either. I know someone was working on a CM11 port but he told me that he needed to learn more before it was going to work well enough for daily use.
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Yeah Lloir is no longer here since he bricked his First so he just upgraded to something else. Jmz is no longer here, and I'm not sure if sun_dream is here either. I know someone was working on a CM11 port but he told me that he needed to learn more before it was going to work well enough for daily use.
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I just hate to see such a good device "go to waste".
I also wish i could port cm11, atleast learn some how, but my only computer is my desktop at home, and internet at 700kbps is not enough to do anything except browse the web. But if internet wasnt a problem id definitely try even though i have no idea how.
CM puts so much effort into mainstream devices that will get updates anyways and never focus on forgotten devices.

russian392 said:
I just hate to see such a good device "go to waste".
I also wish i could port cm11, atleast learn some how, but my only computer is my desktop at home, and internet at 700kbps is not enough to do anything except browse the web. But if internet wasnt a problem id definitely try even though i have no idea how.
CM puts so much effort into mainstream devices that will get updates anyways and never focus on forgotten devices.
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Yeah and it's sad because it didn't use to be like that. It's gonna be even worse when CM12 is released because they said that if a device 1) is not owned by maintainers or 2) can't cooperate with the new security measures then they won't support it at all.
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Yeah and it's sad because it didn't use to be like that. It's gonna be even worse when CM12 is released because they said that if a device 1) is not owned by maintainers or 2) can't cooperate with the new security measures then they won't support it at all.
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Oh wow...yeah thats not good so I guess only options is unofficial ports.

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Oh wow...yeah thats not good so I guess only options is unofficial ports.
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Yeah probably. The best part is though that the GS3 Mini and Motorola Defy have both gotten 5.0 ports.
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Yeah probably. The best part is though that the GS3 Mini and Motorola Defy have both gotten 5.0 ports.
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I'm gonna try to contact carbon ROM and see if they could take up development here. Better than nothing.

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I'm gonna try to contact carbon ROM and see if they could take up development here. Better than nothing.
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I've never heard of Carbon ROM. Is it AOSP with added features?
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I've never heard of Carbon ROM. Is it AOSP with added features?
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Its like a more stable version of CM with more features brought over from other Roms but its not as crazy as paranoid android or aokp

I dont want to upgrade also, I know i'll miss the design of the First if I sell it

I agree, First is a great phone, stylish, great design and ergonomics, i will keep this phone no matter what. My daily driver is Moto X, 2013 model. I like to use my phone in one hand, never liked anything over 4.7-in screen size, have had Samsung S3, original Note, Note 2 and Note 3, traded them all, although i really liked S3 the most, couldn't live with the Notes. Htc First has become my backup phone. Previously, i used a Palm Pre Plus as my backup, but i finally traded it in.

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I agree, First is a great phone, stylish, great design and ergonomics, i will keep this phone no matter what. My daily driver is Moto X, 2013 model. I like to use my phone in one hand, never liked anything over 4.7-in screen size, have had Samsung S3, original Note, Note 2 and Note 3, traded them all, although i really liked S3 the most, couldn't live with the Notes. Htc First has become my backup phone. Previously, i used a Palm Pre Plus as my backup, but i finally traded it in.
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Yeah totally agree. I have a nexus 5 right now and it's quite great for one handed use. But looking for a first for my mom

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Yeah totally agree. I have a nexus 5 right now and it's quite great for one handed use. But looking for a first for my mom
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So... Is there anybody working CM on HTC first ? I guess not... It's so sad. But i still like my first.

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So... Is there anybody working CM on HTC first ? I guess not... It's so sad. But i still like my first.
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Not that I know of. It's strange considering getting drivers for this chip set should be a piece of cake...