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How to diagnose sluggish response?

My Tytn II has developed an annoying slowdown over the last few days and it's getting on my wick. I have no applications running, 54Mb of storage memory and 52Mb of program memory and yet every key press takes at least 10 seconds to respond, screen redraws are a nightmare and answering the phone is impossible because it refuses to accept button presses in time.
Clearly something is hogging the processor, but how can I find out what it is? Is there a WM equivalent of the windows Task manager that shows CPU and memory usage on the device in realtime?
I'm loathe to do a hard reset because I really don't want the hassle of reinstalling everything again.
Thanks for any assistance.
Lee.

Try this freeware app, Task Manager. It will show all processess and apps like Windows.
Can't upload as I only use RAR and it's not supported now all of a sudden.

dot fred task manager is what you want to google for.
AFAIK, .RAR attachments never worked, must be thinking of another forum...

not sure if it's related but when mine slows down l just clear the temp internet files.

ChumleyEX said:
not sure if it's related but when mine slows down l just clear the temp internet files.
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That was the first thing I did and it made no difference. As I said I have plenty of storage and app memory left
Also tried Task Manager, which showed no rogue processes and the system idle process was active at about 80-90%, so that showed nothing either.
I've been deleting stuff all weekend to see if there was a dodgy app but nothing has made any difference so far. I'm going to bite the bullet and do a hard reset combined with a 6.1 firmware upgrade to make some use of it.
Tch

LeeJS said:
That was the first thing I did and it made no difference. As I said I have plenty of storage and app memory left
Also tried Task Manager, which showed no rogue processes and the system idle process was active at about 80-90%, so that showed nothing either.
I've been deleting stuff all weekend to see if there was a dodgy app but nothing has made any difference so far. I'm going to bite the bullet and do a hard reset combined with a 6.1 firmware upgrade to make some use of it.
Tch
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U may try something like SKTools or memmaid, they have some clean-up functions. The sktools have a function to free up your RAM. Its worth checking.

Way too Slow?

Hopefully there is someone out there who is smart enough to fix my issue!
I have a htc G1 rooted running the latest Cyanogen rom and i have a SanDisk micor sdhc 8GB class 6 card. Ok my issue: It seems like for the past 5 or more roms that cyanogen has put out every now in then when i go from like say a game or contacts to the home screen it lags for say 5 sec. During this lag i notice that my icons are visible on the homescreen but the widgets are missing and i only have like 3 widgets on the screen. I dont know if my SD card has taken a crap or what? Please help

dasoccerbomb said:
Hopefully there is someone out there who is smart enough to fix my issue!
I have a htc G1 rooted running the latest Cyanogen rom and i have a SanDisk micor sdhc 8GB class 6 card. Ok my issue: It seems like for the past 5 or more roms that cyanogen has put out every now in then when i go from like say a game or contacts to the home screen it lags for say 5 sec. During this lag i notice that my icons are visible on the homescreen but the widgets are missing and i only have like 3 widgets on the screen. I dont know if my SD card has taken a crap or what? Please help
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You were doing something that was memory intensive, gmaes (especially 3d) tend to do that. They used up too much memory sot the system pushed the home out of memory. When you go home that means it has to reload everything, hence the lag

JAguirre1231 said:
You were doing something that was memory intensive, games (especially 3d) tend to do that. They used up too much memory sot the system pushed the home out of memory. When you go home that means it has to reload everything, hence the lag
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@ Op, if your playing a game on i dont know, Xbox or Ps3 when you exit wouldn't be slower then lets exiting the browser or being in a chat?
Similar on Pc, closing browser is quicker then exiting a game like crysis or maybe flashpoint.

JAguirre1231 said:
You were doing something that was memory intensive, gmaes (especially 3d) tend to do that. They used up too much memory sot the system pushed the home out of memory. When you go home that means it has to reload everything, hence the lag
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But it seems like even just from bouncing back and forth from contacts every now and then it lags and when its lags the phone is basically frozen until it starts to respond again.... Is there anything i can try to counter this issue

dasoccerbomb said:
But it seems like even just from bouncing back and forth from contacts every now and then it lags and when its lags the phone is basically frozen until it starts to respond again.... Is there anything i can try to counter this issue
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Are you using 10MB hacks?

No i am not

dasoccerbomb said:
No i am not
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Well if you don't play to many 3d games, then I would suggest using it. It takes away from the graphics to add 7.5mb more of memory for apps

i once had this issue (slowness, lagging), and i did the following, now the device is zippier and faster than ever:
Decide to do a complete make-over (reflashing the ROM)
0. backup your apps & files, copy SD to harddrive, in order not to lose data
1. reboot into recovery screen, WIPE
2. flash the ROM, reboot, flash the theme you like (and that fits to the ROM), reboot, flash AdvancedLauncher 2.1 if you like (i use it for its certain functions), reboot
3. if you can live without 3D-games, you can use the 10MB RAM-hack; in terminal emulator flash RAM-Hack image (boot.img) (IMPORTANT: it needs to be the boot image that fits to your ROM!
3. reboot
4. reboot recovery; in console or adb shell: fix_permissions
5. reboot
6. install "user.conf Creator" app, READ THE INSTRUCTIONS (inside the app), open it and:
--> enable permission_fix
--> enable compcache (i use 64MB)
--> enable ccbackinswap (i use swappiness 50)
--> enable linux-swap (my linux-swap partition is 128MB; i use swappiness 50)
--> backup files
--> push files
--> reboot
(i experimented with different "swappiness" values, 50 worked out best for me, but it may be different for you. at swappiness 80 loading of apps is really fast, but scrolling and going back to home screen is really slow. 50 seems a good middle value.)
7. done
this can easily take up to 1 hour. After applying user.conf it may take a while on first reboot until the phone is fully loaded, but it's well worth the effort.
i also use SetCPU, to set CPU clock to 528/528 when charging, 384/245 when sleeping, and 128/128 when power <10%
good luck

Speed Up your phone

Hey guys, I know that I don't post a lot but I couldn't help but notice that no one has put up and overclock program for the kaiser. The Kaiser after installing the overclock program, everything ran smoother!!!!!
Instructions:
1. Run Dynamic Clock.cab and install to Device
2. GO to Start > Dynamic Clock
3. tap the screen to install Dynamic Clock
4. after you restart, Go to Settings>System
5.There should now be a new option "Processor"
6.first time running, there will be a warning message, tap yes
7. Feel free to change the options around
8. Try running programs and stuff after changing the settings, you should be able to notice the speed difference!
I use Max performance on both battery and external power and the MHz is on 384 MHZ and auto power. after system idle and all the stuff after, its 192.00MHz

xhackerx said:
Hey guys, I know that I don't post a lot but I couldn't help but notice that no one has put up and overclock program for the kaiser. The Kaiser after installing the overclock program, everything ran smoother!!!!!
Instructions:
1. Run Dynamic Clock.cab and install to Device
2. GO to Start > Dynamic Clock
3. tap the screen to install Dynamic Clock
4. after you restart, Go to Settings>System
5.There should now be a new option "Processor"
6.first time running, there will be a warning message, tap yes
7. Feel free to change the options around
8. Try running programs and stuff after changing the settings, you should be able to notice the speed difference!
I use Max performance on both battery and external power and the MHz is on 384 MHZ and auto power. after system idle and all the stuff after, its 192.00MHz
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well done mate good post! thanks

Hmm, I downloaded the cab per instructions, found the icon, and tried to install. It just keeps freezing with an error message saying my device is blocking installation, do you want to reset? I select yes and it freezes up. I have to remove the battery.

try installing the attached .cab file on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36325&d=1175416351

same problem here...also tryied the second file and it returns a message "the install on your device was unsuccesfull"any ideas?i'm running the official rom!

dukeofdream said:
same problem here...also tryied the second file and it returns a message "the install on your device was unsuccesfull"any ideas?i'm running the official rom!
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Probably due to security provisions of stock ROM not allowing install.

is there a way to bypass this?

If it's running a driver in there normally not, if just a signing issue that's causing the problem sdkcerts can help.
Have never run a stock ROM for longer than a day so not 100% sure on stock just know due to releasing drivers and not being installed along with edited resources.

thanks a lot man...sdkcerts did the job...the program installed correctly...just rebooted after the install...i will post if it works ok!thanks again!

the program starts fine...then a big amount of errors pop up...one of them :"a problem has occured with services.exe" send, don't send buttons available...i will flash a new rom today and try it...can you point me to the fastes rom around?i want something visually good but fast...

Thank you! This great, but about a week ago i googled overclocking the kaiser, and all i could get was a handful of sites saying that the kaiser could not be over clocked.

dukeofdream said:
the program starts fine...then a big amount of errors pop up...one of them :"a problem has occured with services.exe" send, don't send buttons available...i will flash a new rom today and try it...can you point me to the fastes rom around?i want something visually good but fast...
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Same problem here dunno why this doesn't work, anyone figure this out?

from advanced configuration, disable security warning.
its in the misc category...

Whats the benchmark results for overclocking the kaiser?

Captivate boots slow, issues. How to troubleshoot?

So, a little history...
I'm on my 2nd Captivate (unrelated issue). The boot problems didn't arise until I restored my data onto it. The first time I tried restoring system data along with my apps (which I figured was safe since I was going from 2.1 stock to the same) but that had lots of issues. So I did a factory reset, and started over. This time I just restored apps and their data, and a few specific pieces of system data (contacts, wifi APs, etc). That worked better. But later I got too aggressive with what system apps I "froze" (using Titanium Backup), and it got into boot loops I couldn't break out of. So I did another factory reset.
This time, first I carefully froze only apps I was to confirm were safe to freeze. I didn't proceed restoring my apps until I was done freezing and ensured it was booting fine. I then restored all my apps (and their data). The problem is now that it takes forever to boot... in fact, it'll go into a boot loop if I just leave it be. It seems the only way I can gain access is to try and unlock it before it's done booting, clear any "Force close" errors (sometimes takes a few tries) and given enough attempts, I can get in. But the boot takes an unbelievable amount of time, and even with my original apps is many times longer than before on my previous Captivate. Once I fuss my way in, it seems mostly fine, but something is obviously wrong and I want to get it straightened out.
Aside from doing another factory reset, and reinstalling all my apps (which takes like a day without troubleshooting after each, since batch restores in TB don't seem to work well on the Captivate so I have to do them one by one), I'm hoping there's a way to troubleshoot it in its current state and try to fix the problem surgically versus erasing and starting over. I looked at the logcat logs but got in over my head... there are so many errors and warnings and I don't know what's normal and what isn't... too many to know where to begin with searching Google.
So... advice? What tools are available? Even the logcat doesn't seem to kick in until the boot is mostly done, so I'm not sure if it can catch the problem while it's happening. One frustrating thing about Android is that is seems to have no "safe mode" or other diagnostic boot or full logging where you can methodically look at what's happening and experiment with the config. If this was a Windows, Linux or FreeBSD box I'd be in my element and able to get to the bottom of this, but on Android I feel even more crippled, locked-out and helpless than even on Windows. Urgh.
There's got to be a better way to troubleshoot and fix than endless random factory resets. This is something us anti-Windows people scold PC makers for, with all their use of "Restore CDs" for every minor and trivial software issue.
Thanks!

I can't help but think you are still disabling some essential system apps. Either that or one of your apps is causing major problems. Please list what you have frozen in tibu. Btw, the batch function works fine and is what most people on here use.
Also, what is force closing after you restore your apps.

newter55 said:
I can't help but think you are still disabling some essential system apps. Either that or one of your apps is causing major problems. Please list what you have frozen in tibu. Btw, the batch function works fine and is what most people on here use.
Also, what is force closing after you restore your apps.
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First of all, thanks for taking a stab at this.
My frozen apps are:
* AllShare
* AT&T FamilyMap
* AT&T Hot Spots
* AT&T Maps
* AT&T Music
* AT&T Navigator
* AT&T Radio
* Daily Briefing
* Days
* Instant Messaging
* Media Hub
* Mini Diary
* Mobile Banking
* Mobile Video
* MobiTV
* Where
* Write and Go
* YPmobile
I also tried removing my MicroSD card, as well as switching back to Touchwiz (from LauncherPro). Didn't help.
Yeah the batch problem in TB is very frustrating. I'm using the pay/donate version so I'm missing out on a feature I paid for. I've been exchanging emails with Joel (the author) and we haven't figured it out yet. Batch backups work fine. Batch uninstalls also work fine (update: phone just spontaneously rebooted after about 50 or so uninstalls in a batch). It's the batch restores that seem to choke it. It's not corrupt backup files... a verify runs fine, and I can individually restore the same handful of apps one by one that will choke and hang/reboot the Captivate if attempted to restore in a batch.
The FC error I get is on boot-up, as I try to unlock the screen prior to the boot finishing. I often see "Process system is not responding".
I have aLogcat installed, if that's any use. A few questions about that:
- What's the best logging level to view on? In other words, do I care about "Warnings"?
- What errors are common, harmless, and safe to ignore?
Currently I've tried uninstalling everything down to just a few core apps. Certainly boots fine now, but I get plenty of warnings and errors in logcat.

Are u restoring just the user installed apps+data, or system apps too? Or restoring system stuff like contacts data, accounts prefs, etc?

diablo009 said:
Are u restoring just the user installed apps+data, or system apps too? Or restoring system stuff like contacts data, accounts prefs, etc?
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I did not do a "restore system data" or any batch/bulk option in TB that restored all system data. As I recall, the only system data I restored a-la-carte (by selecting the individual item from the TB list) were:
Accounts
Bluetooth pairints
Bookmarks
Calendar
Contacts
Wi-Fi Access Points
These were all items in green in TB. I don't believe I restored anything else. Possibilities I suppose are wallpaper settings, "Country, Launguage, Time Zone"... but I definitely would not have restored anything not green.
Are these items safe? Is there any system data definitely not safe to restore? I have to wonder though, if "system data" is unsafe to even restore to the same stock OS version... why back it up at all?
I'm not a long distance from doing yet another factory reset I suppose, if it must come to that. But I'd love a way a bit more analytical/exacting to try and troubleshoot this other than "reinstall one app, reboot, see what happens" as that will take me a week to get back to where I was. I also suspect it's not just one single app that would suddenly show a huge difference after installing, but instead might be the cumulative errors from several apps and knowing how to identify that and clean them up would be useful.

Using adb logcat you can view what is occurring while the phone is booting and possibly see where it is hanging or what is causing the slow boot times. I have seen problems from restoring data such as accounts and contacts with titanium backup but does not seem that it should be an issue when using the same system though I have very little experience with the stock firmware. I know it is not an answer to your question but it seems that you are wanting to remove all the att/Samsung BS so why not flash a rom that does this as well as much more?
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Thanks for the tip about adb. I've actually not needed adb for anything yet so I've never set it up or used it. I wasn't aware that the service would be active early enough on the phone's boot process to allow it to log boot logs... nor was I even aware it could do this. I'll definitely check out how to set this up... however, if you have a free second and can point me in the right direction (FAQ, instructions, etc) it'd certainly be appreciated otherwise I'll search around and try to find it.
I could probably find other ways to restore contacts and could set my accounts up again manually but I really doubt that's the cause and the other ways are sort of a pain and imperfect. Since neither of us is really convinced that'd be it I won't bother yet until/unless you really suspect it.
I wondered how long it'd take before someone would suggest a custom ROM, this being XDA and all. Short version is I'm not really sold on the concept, as they are all based on the buggy beta leaked ROM, or 2.2 ROMs from other devices that have been hacked up to sort of work as well as possible on the Captivate. All seem to have issues... enough that I'm not really left feeling confident about them. Seems every release unleashes new issues despite addressing old ones, and all seem to have at least a handful of gremlin items that just don't work quite right. Don't have a warm fuzzy feeling, and I still feel like Samsung is going to release an official 2.2 for the Captivate within the next month or so, so I'm interested to see what comes of that. If nothing else, it'll give a better baseline for custom 2.2 ROMs. Then there's the 2.3 being worked on... now that might be interesting.
I don't really think my issue here is related to me running 2.1.

On my phone so it is a pita to search and add a link for you but search for android sdk and you will find what you need to get adb up and running.
And as far as the rom issue goes..it is your phone and I respect your concerns I just had to ask

I would think its media hub that slows it down. It will search your SD cards on every boot. I would start there first.

smokestack76 said:
I would think its media hub that slows it down. It will search your SD cards on every boot. I would start there first.
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That's one of the apps I've frozen though.

For me the longest process while booting is the stupid media scanner upon bootup. Takes FOREVER for the phone to finally "boot" all the way up.
Been looking for a way to disable it (not really lol) and only have it scan manually to see if the boot time will improve. I'd start searching there.
Also - from what I've read nothing you did should have affected the phone. BUT - if your using Google for your Calendar and Contacts.. and they all get synced up to Google? Why bother doing the restore for those? After you sign up with the Market they get pulled back down to your phone automagically

It's definitely more than just the media scanner. I watch that. When everything is loaded up, it actually reboots in a loop unless intercept the FC. The media scanner will rerun over and over each time... far more than the standard two times.
And I use Google Calendar for my events, but I keep my contacts locally on my phone.

So what is the FC again?
Yep.. my media scanner will run at least 3 times before it stops checking everything.
Very frustrating that the software does this EVERY time I boot back into my phone - you'd think a programmer would put a check to see if it had run before or make it user configurable to scan when you want it to.

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See my second post (reply #3):
"Process system is not responding"

LOL sorry not enough coffee and a lil' guy that decided to wake up at 4a.m. = not a good mix.
Well.. did the ol' wise search of Google and came up with:
Might be a permissions issue. Easiest way to fix it is to run ROM Manager and have it fix permisions.
Run the command yourself in ADB:
Code:
Open terminal and
>su
$mount -a
$fix_permissions -r
The -r is optional, but necessary if you find orphaned apps (the app not found please reinstall message)
And reboot. That may help.
And it was also stated that you might have an errant widget/application causing the issue as well. That will be fun trying to figure out what it is.

And.. from my non-dev/non-professional experience - I have checked the logs on my phone and do see a large number of warnings on the phone - but never hindered performance.
So.. 99% of the time you can probably ignore them.
But back to the FC issue - I would try doing a restore of your apps/data again (I read where you have it back down to the "core) and then run the permission script or have ROM Manager do it for you and see if it returns.

Just an update that I think the "fix permissions" thing solved most (but perhaps not all) of my issues. Thanks so much for the tip. I've been reinstalling apps in batches and it's much better, although I see it getting bogged-down bit by bit and I can't pin down what or why.
Thing is, the apps I'm installing in these later rounds/batches shouldn't be resident all the time, shouldn't be auto-loading, and don't come up in things like Startup Cleaner or Advanced Task Killer. Nor do the various process monitors I've tried seem to have the granularity/ability to catch them while they're happening.
So things are better, but I still have some issues without a suitable means to diagnose. I don't get why just having more apps installed, but not running, should affect boot time so much. Hmm...
An inability to troubleshoot certainly rains on my love-affair with Android... not that I'm jumping to another platform anytime soon, but I really want this to work well (as well as be a good salesman to friends and family who often turn to me to show off quality technology).

Defragmentation option appeared. Wow!

For the first time ever since getting my Mate 10 on launch day, I just received a pop up notification to defragment my phone which will improve performance. I did so. Wow they were not wrong there! Everything is so quick now. Apps launch super quickly! Anyone else had the opportunity to defragment their phone?

hI,
what is your device rom version and locale?

ums1405 said:
hI,
what is your device rom version and locale?
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Mate 10 non Pro. ALP L29C636. UK.

Stange, I got the same phone and rom version .
All I've got was an update to .132 yesterday....
haven't noticed anything about defragmenting phone......
Where can I find it?
cheers.

Great Post.

I don't think you can find it. It just appears out of nowhere. I guess it depends on how much you have used your storage and delete and save files.
One thing I have done recently is empty the recycle bin folder in the gallery app which had over 30 days of deleted photos and videos. Perhaps deleting the accumulated storage taken up left a big gap in the storage file system. This is purely a hunch. Have no idea if this was the reason I got the defragmentation notification.
I wish I took a screenshot of it now.
Just found this blurb.... Defragmentation is mentioned....
"The HUAWEI Mate 10 and HUAWEI Mate 10 Pro take the “Born Fast, Stay Fast” promise to a new dimension. Leveraging AI-powered Battery Management, the devices improve memory allocation utilization, using different mechanisms such as: CPU Resource Allocation and Management, Run-time Memory Management, IO Resource Management, Storage Management and Defragmentation and Battery Management."

Yup I get a de-fragmentation pop up once in a while.
Still waiting for a firmware popup.

I saw this once and laughed, remembered me of Windows 98.
Android is supposed to support trim, so devrafmantation shouldn't be a thing... Unless Huawei is calling it Defrag but instead they're doing something else behind the scenes.
Anyways, the born fast stay fast BS is based on the system continuously trying to shutdown processes ASAP and keep them from working properly, and it's continuously pushing the user to delete all kind of "unused" files.
So I've a phone with 128 GB storage and 6GB of ram, but I neither can use the storage nor keep apps open in RAM cuz the system doesn't like it.
Wished we could disable the phone manager and its BS entirely.

Luinwethion said:
I saw this once and laughed, remembered me of Windows 98.
Android is supposed to support trim, so devrafmantation shouldn't be a thing... Unless Huawei is calling it Defrag but instead they're doing something else behind the scenes.
Anyways, the born fast stay fast BS is based on the system continuously trying to shutdown processes ASAP and keep them from working properly, and it's continuously pushing the user to delete all kind of "unused" files.
So I've a phone with 128 GB storage and 6GB of ram, but I neither can use the storage nor keep apps open in RAM cuz the system doesn't like it.
Wished we could disable the phone manager and its BS entirely.
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I agree, that could be the reason apps like Adguard keep getting killed regardless of if its been whitelisted in Phone Manager.
As we approach having a stable TWRP/Root solution for ALP's, (cudos to Pretoriano80) I hope devs would find a solution to the over zealous AI/NPU.

Luinwethion said:
I saw this once and laughed, remembered me of Windows 98.
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Android is supposed to support trim, so devrafmantation shouldn't be a thing... .
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You are full of BS, one of the weaknesses of F2FS is fragmentation decreases performance more than EXT4, so it actually needs defragmentation.

doesnt F2FS do auto trim?

ums1405 said:
I agree, that could be the reason apps like Adguard keep getting killed regardless of if its been whitelisted in Phone Manager.
As we approach having a stable TWRP/Root solution for ALP's, (cudos to Pretoriano80) I hope devs would find a solution to the over zealous AI/NPU.
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I am using Adguard without any problems!

CDI12 said:
I am using Adguard without any problems!
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ditto

Sent from my BLA-L29 using Tapatalk

I just got the notification to defragment on my Huawei P10 VTR-L09 and I clicked it, But I was doing something so I decided to go back to it and do it later. I figured I would be able to do a search In the settings to find the defragment option. Well guess what... It is not there. I guess the only way to defragment is when the system wants you to and not whenever you feel like it. I should have just done the defrag when I first got the message. Now I have to wait until it pops up again.... They should give you the option in the phone manager. Anyone know how frequently the defrag option pops up??
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Yes a warning to others. If you get the defrag option, you MUST do it there and then. Do not navigate away from that notification as you can't get it back.

tboy2000 said:
Yes a warning to others. If you get the defrag option, you MUST do it there and then. Do not navigate away from that notification as you can't get it back.
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I've put a shortcut to it on my phone. I'm using nova launcher. Go to widgets/activities/settings. I've got 254 entries under settings, takes a while scrolling but you can find it and add it to your main screen
Edit: widgets/activities/phone manager/defragmentation

wbrambley said:
I've put a shortcut to it on my phone. I'm using nova launcher. Go to widgets/activities/settings. I've got 254 entries under settings, takes a while scrolling but you can find it and add it to your main screen
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What name of activity

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What name of activity
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Widgets/activities/phone manager/defragmentation.

is there any downside to de fraging the system (like to the updates or smth)