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[Q] How to allow unlock the bootloader

Hi,
A simple question: if I have the Bootloader locked, and my smartphone (going to the service test page via *#*#7378423#*#*) says me that rooting status about bootloader unlock allowed is NO, it's due to my smartphone is locked by my carrier? (I have followed this instructions: unlockbootloader "." sonymobile "." com)
Flashing the ROM is enough to have it unlocked?
Thanks,
Marc

marcgise said:
it's due to my smartphone is locked by my carrier?
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Yes.
marcgise said:
Flashing the ROM is enough to have it unlocked?
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If it's carrier locked then there's no unlocking it.

XperienceD said:
Yes.
If it's carrier locked then there's no unlocking it.
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You mean that there's no way to unlock the phone?
Thx

marcgise said:
You mean that there's no way to unlock the phone?
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If you got it direct from a carrier, NO.

HTC Dev Unlock & Radio Updates

I'm contemplating unlocking my bootloader via HTC Dev Unlock and flashing a custom ROM. However, I'm wondering how I would go about updating my radios after doing this since my understanding of HTC Dev Unlock doesn't include the ability to flash radios.
Is there any way to do it other than backing up and flashing back to stock to accept the OTA?
Thanks!

You can just go s-off and flash a radio.

budeone said:
You can just go s-off and flash a radio.
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I understand that, but if I don't want to go S-Off (i.e. follow the rules), how does it work?

There is a program that I heard flashes radios called Flash Image GUI.
I have never tried it for radios because I always go s-off.
Maybe someone else can help you better.
I know it does flash kernels when you are s-on. I used to use it all the time on the LTE before they found an s-off fix.

gksmithlcw said:
I understand that, but if I don't want to go S-Off (i.e. follow the rules), how does it work?
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it doesn't.

Aldo101t said:
it doesn't.
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That's what I figured.... So what the hell's the point? LOL

gksmithlcw said:
That's what I figured.... So what the hell's the point? LOL
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well, i guess the point is if you want to flash radios you need s-off.

Aldo101t said:
well, i guess the point is if you want to flash radios you need s-off.
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Right, which HTC does not facilitate, so what's the point of allowing a bootloader unlock that makes your phone non-updateable?

gksmithlcw said:
Right, which HTC does not facilitate, so what's the point of allowing a bootloader unlock that makes your phone non-updateable?
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i don't think HTC ficilitates the unlocked bootloader either, as is ststed in their disclaimer prior to unlocking, so?

Aldo101t said:
i don't think HTC ficilitates the unlocked bootloader either, as is ststed in their disclaimer prior to unlocking, so?
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Dude... Their unlocking IS unlocking the bootloader.

gksmithlcw said:
Dude... Their unlocking IS unlocking the bootloader.
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that's what i'm talking about.

Aldo101t said:
that's what i'm talking about.
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Then what's the confusion? They facilitate unlocking the bootloader via their own tools, but doing so renders the device un-updateable without breaking their own rules and hacking the device to gain S-Off.
And that, I find quite stupid.

gksmithlcw said:
Then what's the confusion? They facilitate unlocking the bootloader via their own tools, but doing so renders the device un-updateable without breaking their own rules and hacking the device to gain S-Off.
And that, I find quite stupid.
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ok, have you unlocked yet?? What i'm trying to say is they don't condone unlocking the bootloader either, which is stated in the unlock process.it's your chioce(the user)

Aldo101t said:
ok, have you unlocked yet??
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No. As stated in the OP, I was trying to get the answer to this question. Now I'm wishing I'd just kept my old GNex.
I sure hope I can get S-Off with the latest firmware....

gksmithlcw said:
No. As stated in the OP, I was trying to get the answer to this question. Now I'm wishing I'd just kept my old GNex.
I sure hope I can get S-Off with the latest firmware....
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just unlock and get s-off, you'll like it, read up on it in the forums, no big deal, have a good day.

I'm officially unlocked, rooted and s-offed. Now the question becomes GPe or CM 10.2....

[Q] if you can unlock bootloader on motorola.com, why aren't people doing it?

How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?

BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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The popular carriers like AT&T and VZW don't allow it - so that prevents a large group from doing it.

Cause most carrier phones don't have their option to unlock the boot loader. But yes if you do unluck the boot loader you can root. But you can also root without unlocking thanks to jcase's pwnmymoto root method.

BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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Most people aren't talking about it because I guess they figure you know whether or not you bought a phone that could be unlocked. If you are bootloader unlocked then yes - you just flash su.zip in cwm or twrp and you are good to go.
So if you are on Sprint or T-mobile, US Cellular or international go for it.

Unlocking the bootloader voids warranties as well...doing it through the website makes that void permanent whereas if you did it without the website you can still have your phone go through the warranty process as long as you unroot and relock the bootloader. that's what i love about the nexus devices

Ugh!!!
Glad I ran into this. I was going through the process to unlock my XT1080M on the site...looks like I'm waiting for the non-Chinese path.

Radio2006 said:
Glad I ran into this. I was going through the process to unlock my XT1080M on the site...looks like I'm waiting for the non-Chinese path.
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There's no 'non Chinese' path for Verizon phones. Unless you have a developer edition
Sent from my XT1060

Droyyd said:
Unlocking the bootloader voids warranties as well...doing it through the website makes that void permanent whereas if you did it without the website you can still have your phone go through the warranty process as long as you unroot and relock the bootloader. that's what i love about the nexus devices
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While this may be true for Nexus devices, it doesn't apply to the Moto X.
The Moto X bootloader has 3 states:
Locked, Unlocked, and Re-Locked
Once you have unlocked, if you subsequently re-lock, the status changes to "Re-Locked". You can NEVER get it back to "Locked". So regardless of whether you get your code from the official Moto Unlock site or the Middleman, they still know that you had unlocked previously. There is no way around this...

rocketsaucev2 said:
There's no 'non Chinese' path for Verizon phones. Unless you have a developer edition
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Hence the reason I am waiting.

Radio2006 said:
Hence the reason I am waiting.
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Waiting for what?
Sent from my XT1060

Radio2006 said:
Hence the reason I am waiting.
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rocketsaucev2 said:
Waiting for what?
Sent from my XT1060
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Exactly! I'm not sure what he is waiting for. An BL unlock exploit to come along? Dan Rosenburg (author of the Razr M Bootloader exploit) has said himself that it is extremely unlikely that a new Moto BL unlock exploit will EVER come along.
@Radio2006 : The "china" method could end tomorrow. It is 99.999% sure to be the ONLY way you will ever get unlocked. If being unlocked is important you, I would urge you not to wait.

Its China method quick, before it ends again....maybe for good....
Or it won't happen. The bootloader won't be "cracked". If it could be, it would be by now.
I'd get in on the China method, or accept a life of no proper root for your device. And no developer made updates after the X stops getting official updates.

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Exactly! I'm not sure what he is waiting for. An BL unlock exploit to come along? Dan Rosenburg (author of the Razr M Bootloader exploit) has said himself that it is extremely unlikely that a new Moto BL unlock exploit will EVER come along.
@Radio2006 : The "china" method could end tomorrow. It is 99.999% sure to be the ONLY way you will ever get unlocked. If being unlocked is important you, I would urge you not to wait.
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Hey, gee thanks guys. I didn't know that. The China method has already shut down according to an XDA post that I read earlier. So I was hoping that something would occur later.

Radio2006 said:
Hey, gee thanks guys. I didn't know that. The China method has already shut down according to an XDA post that I read earlier. So I was hoping that something would occur later.
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It closed earlier this year, then reopened a couple months later. It is still available now. Find the thread titled "China Middleman Back?" Thread.
Good luck!

You rock bro...just sent the payment. Thanks again.

BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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I think only developer phones can be unlocked.

dhru1405 said:
I think only developer phones can be unlocked.
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Nope. Lots of moto x variations can be unlocked. And they all can do anything a dev edition can do, except keep their warranty.

Root and locked bootloader

I have a Dev edition and have unlocked my bootloader and rooted. My next question is there any benefit to relocking bootloader and keeping root? In addition is there any benefit to flashing original recovery? I mainly wanted root for Xposed.

Simple answer no and no. You only need stock recovery if you want to take an ota

shane1 said:
Simple answer no and no. You only need stock recovery if you want to take an ota
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Would relocking bootloader provide more security?

scabbard1 said:
Would relocking bootloader provide more security?
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Nope, just more headache.

[Q] Pre-root HTC One M7?

Hello,
So I made a thread earlier about my Verizon HTC One M7 on 5.0.2 asking if I was able to root it.
Y'all basically said I need to use Sunshine S-Off to unlock my bootloader so I can root. So I downloaded the Sunshine-latest.apk file and it says I need to "Pre-root" before I can use it. I'm confused. The app that's going to root my phone needs root to work? That doesn't make sense. I now understand that S-off is needed for roms, but I don't want roms. I just want root apps. I'm still confused on why S-off is necessary for root, and apparently root is needed for Sunshine S-off.
Anyways, does anyone know how I can pre-root (Temp root?) my phone so I can use Sunshine? And what do I do after I get S-off to root my phone? Is there anyway I can root without S-off? I just want root access no roms.
Thanks for all those willing to help. Sorry I sound like such a noob (I am)

Austinh1517 said:
Hello,
So I made a thread earlier about my Verizon HTC One M7 on 5.0.2 asking if I was able to root it.
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Yes I remember but don't understand why you created a new thread again for the same issue... Your previous thread is only 3 days old.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/to-root-htc-one-m7-t3127604
Y'all basically said I need to use Sunshine S-Off to unlock my bootloader so I can root.
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Right because Verizon asked HTC to block their phones from being unlocked the normal way using htcdev.com website so they can have more control over their customers. With S-OFF you or sunshine can directly write to the PG1FS partition to unlock the bootloader without the need to use the unlock code generated by htcdev.com
So I downloaded the Sunshine-latest.apk file and it says I need to "Pre-root" before I can use it. I'm confused. The app that's going to root my phone needs root to work?
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Sunshine need at least temp root to work. Achieve temp root, use sunshine to s-off and unlock, flash a custom recovery and then using your recovery you can root for good (permanent root).
I now understand that S-off is needed for roms, but I don't want roms.
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Not really but that doesn't matter for now, you can read about what s-off really do later if you are interested. Flashing roms doesn't require s-off, its only requires and unlocked bootloader but yes since your phone is Verizon you need s-off if you want to flash a rom because its the only way to unlock the bootloader. On other variant of the M7, you can unlock the bootloader from htcdev.com so s-off is not needed to flash roms. I know its confusing...
I just want root apps. I'm still confused on why S-off is necessary for root
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Because you need at least an unlocked bootloader to permanently root your phone, bootloader unlock is blocked by Verizon so S-OFF will unlock the bootloader
and apparently root is needed for Sunshine S-off.
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temp root, not perm root.
Anyways, does anyone know how I can pre-root (Temp root?) my phone so I can use Sunshine?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61174630&postcount=4
Read this post again (second sentence)
And what do I do after I get S-off to root my phone?
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Flash a custom recovery (TWRP) for Verizon HTC One and use it to perm root your phone.
Is there anyway I can root without S-off?
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Afaik, no, not on the new firmware.

alray said:
Yes I remember but don't understand why you created a new thread again for the same issue... Your previous thread is only 3 days old.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/to-root-htc-one-m7-t3127604
Right because Verizon asked HTC to block their phones from being unlocked the normal way using htcdev.com website so they can have more control over their customers. With S-OFF you or sunshine can directly write to the PG1FS partition to unlock the bootloader without the need to use the unlock code generated by htcdev.com
Sunshine need at least temp root to work. Achieve temp root, use sunshine to s-off and unlock, flash a custom recovery and then using your recovery you can root for good (permanent root).
Not really but that doesn't matter for now, you can read about what s-off really do later if you are interested. Flashing roms doesn't require s-off, its only requires and unlocked bootloader but yes since your phone is Verizon you need s-off if you want to flash a rom because its the only way to unlock the bootloader. On other variant of the M7, you can unlock the bootloader from htcdev.com so s-off is not needed to flash roms. I know its confusing...
Because you need at least an unlocked bootloader to permanently root your phone, bootloader unlock is blocked by Verizon so S-OFF will unlock the bootloader
temp root, not perm root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61174630&postcount=4
Read this post again (second sentence)
Flash a custom recovery (TWRP) for Verizon HTC One and use it to perm root your phone.
Afaik, no, not on the new firmware.
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Thanks dude.. You've helped so much. Sorry I created another thread I'm new to forums and rooting.

Austinh1517 said:
Thanks dude.. You've helped so much. Sorry I created another thread I'm new to forums and rooting.
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So are you rooted now?

alray said:
So are you rooted now?
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Not yet because I have to buy the license for Sunshine but I now have step by step instructions on how to when I do buy it