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Unlockable Bootloader & Release Of Kernel Sources ?

With regards to unlocking the bootloader & the release of kernel sources on the Xiaomi Mi 5, has anything been officially announced ?

SlyUK said:
With regards to unlocking the bootloader & the release of kernel sources on the Xiaomi Mi 5, has anything been officially announced ?
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not yet
but for sure they will allow this one to be unlocked..
you can spy on miui's forum site..

reyscott1968 said:
not yet
but for sure they will allow this one to be unlocked..
you can spy on miui's forum site..
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Excellent. Looking forward to it

On en.miui.com it is said that bootloader can be unlocked at request like in latest miui versions of other models. For me this choice makes perfect sense: if you are good enough you can unlock it, otherwise they don't encourage it

oile said:
On en.miui.com it is said that bootloader can be unlocked at request like in latest miui versions of other models. For me this choice makes perfect sense: if you are good enough you can unlock it, otherwise they don't encourage it
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"If you are good enough..." - What does that mean ? As is in if you are a tech head or ?
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Until someone actually uses it and proves it does it job, ideally Xiaomi themselves. Don't trust it.

SlyUK said:
With regards to unlocking the bootloader & the release of kernel sources on the Xiaomi Mi 5, has anything been officially announced ?
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It will be locked - http://en.miui.com/thread-231030-1-1.html
and receiving unlock code from xiaomi will take months if you are just a normal member of miui forum. Even after that, it is possible you are stuck by some weird errors .. just take a look at redmi note / 4c forum.
Thought to but MI 5 on first day.. but not anymore.. have to search for other alternative.

Web_E said:
It will be locked - http://en.miui.com/thread-231030-1-1.html
and receiving unlock code from xiaomi will take months if you are just a normal member of miui forum. Even after that, it is possible you are stuck by some weird errors .. just take a look at redmi note / 4c forum.
Thought to but MI 5 on first day.. but not anymore.. have to search for other alternative.
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Wich errors? Can you briefly describe them?
Will it be possible to flash the rooted global version on locked bl? That's all I ask at least for months

"Will it be possible to flash the rooted global version on locked bl? That's all I ask at least for months" I'd really like to know that as well

You need an unlocked bootloader to flash roms

As long as xiaomi dosent make unlocking bootloader complicated ...I am ok with it ...but if we have to get codes ,permission etc for xiaomi it will be a hassle ...
either way this beast has to be unchained ...sooner than later I hope

notoriouspk said:
As long as xiaomi dosent make unlocking bootloader complicated ...I am ok with it ...but if we have to get codes ,permission etc for xiaomi it will be a hassle ...
either way this beast has to be unchained ...sooner than later I hope
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The Beast definitely needs to be unleashed thats for sure.

Why lock it in the first place.... its not like they loose money by making it easy?

Oehr said:
Why lock it in the first place.... its not like they loose money by making it easy?
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Because if the bootloader was unlocked by default, people could hack into your phone or access it's data by bypassing the code on the lock screen

XblackdemonX said:
Because if the bootloader was unlocked by default, people could hack into your phone or access it's data by bypassing the code on the lock screen
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not like a locked bootlocker is synonymous with encryption, nor that it makes a phone unhackable. so if that is really their argument, i call bull****!
I dont get this locking at all, be it xiaomi, samsung or whoever. If I buy a smartphone, I want to own it, having full control over both hard- and software. Anything less is unacceptable to me.
If I buy a computer or laptop, I can always install another OS on there and am not forced to use the software that came with it. Why can't smartphones be the same?

Oehr said:
not like a locked bootlocker is synonymous with encryption, nor that it makes a phone unhackable. so if that is really their argument, i call bull****!
I dont get this locking at all, be it xiaomi, samsung or whoever. If I buy a smartphone, I want to own it, having full control over both hard- and software. Anything less is unacceptable to me.
If I buy a computer or laptop, I can always install another OS on there and am not forced to use the software that came with it. Why can't smartphones be the same?
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Well see that is the thing. There are not opensource bootloaders for Android that could completely replace the bootloader on the device. If you did remove all the OEM software on a device you would have to load even the base bootloader by a jtag device before you would even flash an OS to the device. The bootloader is under the TOS you agreed to when you bought the phone. The hardware you own. The software you buy a license to use. You dont own it.
As for why they do it. One guy got an email reply when he asked and it is simple. They didnt like people removing their services (which is how they make money) So they locked the bootloader so you could only flash MIUI roms with their inbuilt services. Anything else they say is just more BS to come from them.
Also for your PC comment. That has recently changed. The windows 10 32 bit computers come with a locked bootload as well, you have to go through a TON of bs to get it unlocked.

[News] Mi 4/Mi 3/Mi Note Kernel Source Released Today! (02-March-2016):
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=235130&extra=page=1&mobile=2
Surely Mi 5 must follow ?

SlyUK said:
[News] Mi 4/Mi 3/Mi Note Kernel Source Released Today! (02-March-2016):
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=235130&extra=page=1&mobile=2
Surely Mi 5 must follow ?
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Why? They've been out over a year right? If anything that pattern is indicative of a pretty long wait for mi5 sources.

BigsyBiggins said:
Why? They've been out over a year right? If anything that pattern is indicative of a pretty long wait for mi5 sources.
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I'm guessing they were released in full on that day, instead of being partially released.

SlyUK said:
I'm guessing they were released in full on that day, instead of being partially released.
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Mi3 was launched in late 2013. I bought it on like September 2014. No custom ROMs were available. Some months later Ivan (he is not official Dev). But his work is closest to official ones. So hopefully he may release AOSP ROM from official sources (he doesn't share them).
About Mi3 kernel sources, they were delaying it. And it was said that once Mi4 will launch they will release. After launch more delays. And finally after months passed of Mi4 launch they released the kernel source. (it may not have all the modules)
But for Mi Note, it's relatively quick.
Similarly it may take few months.

Me_Ashish_ said:
Mi3 was launched in late 2013. I bought it on like September 2014. No custom ROMs were available. Some months later Ivan (he is not official Dev). But his work is closest to official ones. So hopefully he may release AOSP ROM from official sources (he doesn't share them).
About Mi3 kernel sources, they were delaying it. And it was said that once Mi4 will launch they will release. After launch more delays. And finally after months passed of Mi4 launch they released the kernel source. (it may not have all the modules)
But for Mi Note, it's relatively quick.
Similarly it may take few months.
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I'm guessing Ivan will make AOSP rom (based on Marshmallow) for Mi 5 like he has done previously. Should be good

Lineage OS on Mi Mix?

What would it take for a developer to be able to release a Lineage/CM type ROM for this phone? Do you guys think it is a possibility in the near future or will this never happen?

SantinoInc said:
What would it take for a developer to be able to release a Lineage/CM type ROM for this phone? Do you guys think it is a possibility in the near future or will this never happen?
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Source code for starters is probably helpful, and that might take a while with xiaomi....

SantinoInc said:
What would it take for a developer to be able to release a Lineage/CM type ROM for this phone? Do you guys think it is a possibility in the near future or will this never happen?
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I've experienced that with the Mi5, Cyanogenmod builds came very quickly after Xiaomi released the kernel sources. I'm also waiting for them, this device would be so much better with Lineage OS, or anything other than a MIUI rom, although the EPIC rom is getting fairly close
You can follow the official github for xiaomi devices here: https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
Mi5 owners also did a petition though, asking Xiaomi to release the kernel sources for the mi5, maybe we should do the same for the MIX ?

brambizimski said:
I've experienced that with the Mi5, Cyanogenmod builds came very quickly after Xiaomi released the kernel sources. I'm also waiting for them, this device would be so much better with Lineage OS, or anything other than a MIUI rom, although the EPIC rom is getting fairly close
You can follow the official github for xiaomi devices here: https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
Mi5 owners also did a petition though, asking Xiaomi to release the kernel sources for the mi5, maybe we should do the same for the MIX ?
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How do we submit a petition? Lets do it!

Constrabus said:
How do we submit a petition? Lets do it!
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:laugh: it's already been done early build up and running been using for a week.

jazz452 said:
:laugh: it's already been done early build up and running been using for a week.
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Right but its not a true build. It's using the sources that were released for the Mi5s.

LineageOS and Xiaomi Mi A2

Dear XDA Experts,
I would like to know if there's a LineageOS planned for Xiaomi Mi A2.
Can omeone answer me please?

It will be officially released for Mi A2 for sure.

As the kernel sources have only been released today it will probably take a while still but there most likely be many roms for the A2

Benjamin_L said:
As the kernel sources have only been released today it will probably take a while still but there most likely be many roms for the A2
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Please take a guess - pick a month when it's done.

androidbadboy said:
Please take a guess - pick a month when it's done.
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For the A1 is has been released 6 month after the phone was released so I'd say within half a year

Benjamin_L said:
For the A1 is has been released 6 month after the phone was released so I'd say within half a year
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I say 4 months cause the second edition of that phone is so well done

It is just a matter of time. Right now TWRP isn't even fully ready. But it will come.

As with every development. It's done when it's done, no eta

Benjamin_L said:
As with every development. It's done when it's done, no eta
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You're a memory reader, I was just about to use ETA lol

I hope it will be released soon

Global rom for K20 pro?

Please post if anyone have it

September

Does somebody heard k20 pro will launch India in mid-July?

tenshikurabu said:
Does somebody heard k20 pro will launch India in mid-July?
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Yes, this was reported a coupe of weeks ago. The date of the 15th was given. Don't know if this is a confirmed or rumoured date.

Robbo.5000 said:
Yes, this was reported a coupe of weeks ago. The date of the 15th was given. Don't know if this is a confirmed or rumoured date.
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That's a good news. Phone is good, but os is so bad, seems like my old ZTE axon 7, sep-2016 ~ jun-2019, finally I recycled to $35. Finally there just be few ROMs. I hope k20 pro don't encounter the same thing:crying:

tenshikurabu said:
That's a good news. Phone is good, but os is so bad, seems like my old ZTE axon 7, sep-2016 ~ jun-2019, finally I recycled to $35. Finally there just be few ROMs. I hope k20 pro don't encounter the same thing:crying:
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There are a lot of very talented devs from India here on xda, so hopefully many of the POCO F1 devs will buy this phone and move their excellent work to this.
Mine has finally arrived and so far it's great, have removed as much bloat as I can and just waiting for the 7 days to finish when I can get the EU ROM on at least. Personally I would like to see official LOS on my phone.

Robbo.5000 said:
There are a lot of very talented devs from India here on xda, so hopefully many of the POCO F1 devs will buy this phone and move their excellent work to this.
Mine has finally arrived and so far it's great, have removed as much bloat as I can and just waiting for the 7 days to finish when I can get the EU ROM on at least. Personally I would like to see official LOS on my phone.
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LOS is simple and powerful, this is faith. I've just unlocked my phone days ago, EU ROM has some issues till now.

Robbo.5000 said:
There are a lot of very talented devs from India here on xda, so hopefully many of the POCO F1 devs will buy this phone and move their excellent work to this.
Mine has finally arrived and so far it's great, have removed as much bloat as I can and just waiting for the 7 days to finish when I can get the EU ROM on at least. Personally I would like to see official LOS on my phone.
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Talk about the issues, I've given up with EU ROM. I just fastboot flashed Android Q beta several hours ago, at least, it's pure Android experience.

tenshikurabu said:
Talk about the issues, I've given up with EU ROM. I just fastboot flashed Android Q beta several hours ago, at least, it's pure Android experience.
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It's something I'm considering trying. Do you know which release it is? Is it the beta 3 or beta 4 release? The official Xiaomi page doesn't give much info.
Was you using EU stable or development ROM?

tenshikurabu said:
Talk about the issues, I've given up with EU ROM. I just fastboot flashed Android Q beta several hours ago, at least, it's pure Android experience.
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does everything work with android Q beta?

ciaox said:
does everything work with android Q beta?
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No.
This from the Xiaomi android q beta webpage
Redmi K20 Pro:
1. Does not support fingerprint module.
2. “Settings” app crashes after user selects “App & Notifications” and shows a notification that says “Settings keeps stopping”
3. Unable to switch between multiple users.
4. There might be instances where videos downloaded from the Google Drive does not show length of video in the photo gallery.
5. Bluetooth search might not work for some specific keyboards. A known failed case is Logitech’s k380 keyboard.

Robbo.5000 said:
It's something I'm considering trying. Do you know which release it is? Is it the beta 3 or beta 4 release? The official Xiaomi page doesn't give much info.
Was you using EU stable or development ROM?
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Here are some informations in screenshot.
I was using EU development ROM when I meet random reboot issues, I think I should try EU stable later or next release.

Will official global ROM still get OTA if flashed on K20 Pro?

tenshikurabu said:
Talk about the issues, I've given up with EU ROM. I just fastboot flashed Android Q beta several hours ago, a8t least, it's pure Android experience.
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What do you mean is it AOSP..?

Zumzum20 said:
What do you mean is it AOSP..?
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Yes, I found it on MIUI official site, but after days using, it's really not good at all. Please do not flash that ROM as daily ROM. If you like AOSP, check phh's thread, I will try it 3 days later when I unlock my phone.

Which is easy rootable phone?

Which is the most root friendly phone where I can set up Magisk ??

I don't know how recent you want, but I have the Axon 7. It's really easily rooted.
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TheWaterBug said:
I don't know how recent you want, but I have the Axon 7. It's really easily rooted.
Sent from my ZTE A2017X using Tapatalk
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I want 2016+ phones, cheap and which i can root easily, I'm tired to find any.

Generally speaking I'd suggest to check models that are in BOTH Lineage and TWRP official support lists:
https://download.lineageos.org/ (click on menu)
https://twrp.me/Devices/
That way besides stock ROM (probably not difficult to root because above availability) you will always have the alternative ROM + Recovery.

wilsonhlacerda said:
Generally speaking I'd suggest to check models that are in BOTH Lineage and TWRP official support lists:
https://download.lineageos.org/ (click on menu)
https://twrp.me/Devices/
That way besides stock ROM (probably not difficult to root because above availability) you will always have the alternative ROM + Recovery.
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Also, check which devices are the most popular on XDA forum; there's lots of old but great flagship devices like the OP3 that are still getting tons of attention and are available on the cheap.
The problem is that most of your cheaper phones are either built intentionally to be tough to root, or ppl who buy them just don't care enough to do the extra. I know there was a midrange Moto a few years back and I'm sure it is still getting indie development, but the name escapes me... Try googling "most easily rooted phones" and see what you get. Might just need to get secondhand/older/foreign if cost is an issue.
Edit: just noticed your objection to older phones. You do realize that if you are going to root your phone anyway, you are 20x better off with a flagship 2014 model that has a Qualcomm 8xx PROCESSOR (or even most 7 and 6 series) than an Intel or almost any Mediatek processor? You don't need to worry about the age of it if it's in good condition and there's active development. THAT'S how you'll save money IMO.

Tsifora said:
I want 2016+ phones, cheap and which i can root easily, I'm tired to find any.
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Cheap? I'd say Xiaomi A2 or the Poco F1. Xiaomi bootloader is locked from the factory, but they have an official tool called Mi Unlocker to easily unlock it.
In case of Mi A2, released in 2016, since it's an AndroidOne device, you can simply unlock it using fastboot. It also has LineageOS and TWRP official support. From factory it came with Oreo, then updated to Pie. And they will release Android 10 for it at the end of this month (https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-X...edge-towards-Android-10-update.447310.0.html)
I'm running Mi A2 with Havoc OS v2.8 based on Android Pie, rooted with Magisk 20.2, and EdXposed 0.4.5. The device pass SafetyNet and can install Netflix from the Play Store.
They released Mi A3 with AMOLED display. But it's 720p with a notch, a downgrade from the notchless 1080p LCD display of Mi A2. But it has 3 cameras instead of two, and 4000mah battery instead of 3000mah in Mi A2, and will receive official Android 11.

Which phones are currently easiest to unlock, root and install ROMs?