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Any big name ROMs for this phone yet?

I'm looking but I can't seem to find any working big name roms like Cyanogenmod, AOKP, Paranoid Andoid, or Slimbean ROMs for the AT&T s5.
Am I missing them or are they truly unavailable?

Have you been in a cave...LOL...Just Kidding. Welcome to the new At&t Samsung way. LOCKED BOOTLOADER
FOREVER.
Unless we some how get a Loki workaround, we will never have custom kernels.
Big Name ROM? Lets give credit to the devs we do have - giving their time for our device and only TouchWiz.

Damn...I just found out about towelroot and I was so excited about finally being able to wipe my phone clean with a cool big new rom. No offence to the little devs, but it's just not the same, ya know?

Tattered said:
Damn...I just found out about towelroot and I was so excited about finally being able to wipe my phone clean with a cool big new rom. No offence to the little devs, but it's just not the same, ya know?
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Nah I don't know
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Give visix a try...May not be a big name as you put it, but the devs are very active, already on version 3.0. Very smooth, good battery life, I personally like it very much.

Tattered said:
Damn...I just found out about towelroot and I was so excited about finally being able to wipe my phone clean with a cool big new rom. No offence to the little devs, but it's just not the same, ya know?
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I'm thankful for the devs who are giving their time, but I look for roms with the features I want and need, not by who the developer is. Let's help these guys become "big devs" by supporting their work.

My point is, all of the ROMs available look and function pretty much exactly like stock except they have bugs. Big name ROMs have tons of features and few bugs as well as completely changing up the stock experience. It's a shame, but I'm just going to go back to stock because all of the ROMs out now are (to me) no different than stock and filled with bugs.

Tattered said:
My point is, all of the ROMs available look and function pretty much exactly like stock except they have bugs. Big name ROMs have tons of features and few bugs as well as completely changing up the stock experience. It's a shame, but I'm just going to go back to stock because all of the ROMs out now are (to me) no different than stock and filled with bugs.
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Not true, Vision is stock all the way, I just changed the stock look a little, everything works PERFECT. I agree, you start modding the phone with a bunch of non-needed mods that btw, xposed can handle, it tends to have issues. This exactly why I built Vision, for this purpose.
Give it a try. You will not be disappointed.:good:
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peaster3 said:
I'm thankful for the devs who are giving their time, but I look for roms with the features I want and need, not by who the developer is. Let's help these guys become "big devs" by supporting their work.
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+1, thats how it works...:good:

Tattered said:
My point is, all of the ROMs available look and function pretty much exactly like stock except they have bugs. Big name ROMs have tons of features and few bugs as well as completely changing up the stock experience. It's a shame, but I'm just going to go back to stock because all of the ROMs out now are (to me) no different than stock and filled with bugs.
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I don't understand how one can say CM or any AOSP or AOKP Rom are bug free if that was the case then why nightlies? I've flashed MANY AOSP Roms on my S2 S3 and S 4 and never found one "bug free". Now development is just beginning for the AT&T S5 and whether there's a loki exploit or something like it remains to be seen, however, there will be and already are themers and modders working to give us choices.
I prefer T/W for the stability and and really "bug free" experience. Hence no need for nightlies.
"No soup for you!Come back one year!!"
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Tattered said:
I'm looking but I can't seem to find any working big name roms like Cyanogenmod, AOKP, Paranoid Andoid, or Slimbean ROMs for the AT&T s5.
Am I missing them or are they truly unavailable?
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I'm curious, what exactly is a "Big Name" ROM? I have been Devin for a long time AOSP, AOKP, CM, SENSE, and currently TouchWiz (which by the way is actually very stable model or not). There isn't even a stock oob firmware without bugs if there was there would be no updates or patches from oem.
I appreciate your wanting a highly themed ROM however, during early stages most devs look to take care of opening things up and enabling what was removed or disabled. Personally I leave the heavy modding and style changes to the themers.
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is it just me

Is it just me or have the custom ROMs gotten boring. All of them are the same now. There is nothing really setting them apart anymore they all have the same features the same ui. Yes I know its KitKat but it really. Where is the difference.

Make one brotha! Stock based roms are pretty snappy as is and most devs have moved on to newer devices at this point. I'm still on Negaman's latest.
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ACoolGuy said:
Make one brotha! Stock based roms are pretty snappy as is and most devs have moved on to newer devices at this point. I'm still on Negaman's latest.
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I have built plenty ROMs. And on two teams. I'm not a TW user. I've used nega rom seen issues with it and didnt like the theme but that was my own opinion.
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Then my question to you is if you are capable of building your own rom.....the way you would like it for yourself, why complain that they are all the same? Why not build your own that could be very much different.....with the performance and the theming to fit your own taste. It really is as simple as that.

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Then my question to you is if you are capable of building your own rom.....the way you would like it for yourself, why complain that they are all the same? Why not build your own that could be very much different.....with the performance and the theming to fit your own taste. It really is as simple as that.
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Look I'm not here to get slammed by people I was just putting it out there to find out from other people if they felt the same.
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bthorne79 said:
Look I'm not here to get slammed by people I was just putting it out there to find out from other people if they felt the same.
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I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way. The only difference is they keep their whiny, disrespectful opinions to themselves.
We have a great group of developers here who spend tons of their unpaid personal time to put out some awesome roms. If their products don't meet your personal needs, make your own REMOVED.

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I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way. The only difference is they keep their whiny, disrespectful opinions to themselves.
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I agree. The roms available all seem too alike. Most have bugs. And if not they seem to lack features id put in standard.. i am not a rom dev.. but have been working on my own. It will be a compilation of miui aosp and aome cherry picks. But again.. its gonna be the same base.. what can i do to make mine different? We're all stuck using either samsungs crap base or cm... I'm getting discouraged. :'(

Why Android is so awesome
The beauty of Android is the ability to make it any way you like. It has already been said, but I would like to reinforce this idea. ROMs are all very similar because the MAJORITY of people have the same basic requirements from their phones. This means that the feature set that most people demand is very similar, and therefore the features offered in the various ROMs will be similar as well.
The people who make ROMs that are overly different from the 'normal' do it primarily for their own benefit, and their specific needs are not often shared by others. So these "unique" ROMs never really get out because there isn't a demand for them.
I personally have done many of my own "purpose-built" ROMs that go outside the normal, but posting them wouldn't make much sense, because the things that are different are not needed by other people. Also, supporting a COMMUNITY of people who use your ROM is much harder than supporting yourself. I can make ROM changes for myself, but I absolutely do not have time to try to upkeep a ROM thread. The work that those guys put in is INCREDIBLE. Making a ROM work for one person on one phone in one configuration is trivial compared to trying to roll out a mass-compatible distribution. The only ROMs that are worth that kind of time are the ROMs that suit the needs of many, not the needs of few. Therefore, the ROMs that are distributed online are all seeking to fill the same basic roles.
As to how you can make your ROM unique, that is like asking how to make a car unique. First you have to decide what you want. Do you want a race car (speed)? Do you want amazing gas mileage (battery life)? Does it need to be street legal (compatibility)? Do you care about color (theme)? Do you need a great sound system (music player)?
I think you begin to see what I mean. You can make a ROM unique in many ways, but you have to figure out what you want from the ROM before you can figure out what the ROM needs to be like.
You also mentioned that many ROMs are buggy. Get used to it. Especially if you are going to start building your own. I don't mean to sound harsh, but that is the nature of the game. If you want maximum stability, go back to stock. Everything has a trade-off. If you want great features, you will have to work through the glitches. I am not saying that a "perfect" ROM is impossible, but be prepared to put in the time. The ROM devs around here do everything they can, but ultimately they also have full-time jobs doing other things. If each of the custom ROMs on this forum had the 500 man full-time dev team that Samsung has, the ROMs would be just as stable. Unfortunately, that isn't the case.
Welcome to the world of Android, my friend. Have fun building!

I feel like that was completely unnecessary and very untrue. Ive ran several 'stable' AOSP/CM roms and the one im building is quite stable thank you.
A base is just a base. The features i add are always in demand. And some may or may not be activated upon flashing. Thats up to the user to
decide. imo this whole conversation seems to lure in bashers. All i did was ask for some simple advice. Ill take my leave now.

Daisflaque said:
I feel like that was completely unnecessary and very untrue. Ive ran several 'stable' AOSP/CM roms and the one im building is quite stable thank you.
A base is just a base. The features i add are always in demand. And some may or may not be activated upon flashing. Thats up to the user to
decide. imo this whole conversation seems to lure in bashers. All i did was ask for some simple advice. Ill take my leave now.
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I just want to say that I meant no disrespect! And I am very happy you have a stable ROM. All I was suggesting is that I would guess you have had some bumps in the road along the way. I am confident that you have worked through them, or are in the process of doing so, but I would wager to bet that in the future you will run into more bumps. You will fix them and all will be good.
I am simply trying to point out that in the process of adding new features, often we encounter issues, bugs, glitches, etc. If you haven't, then I think you are extremely lucky and in a league of your own as far as programming goes. Far above me and many others.
And if the features you add are always in demand, then I propose that you are adding features that are similar to what many others are adding. I could be wrong, but I feel that to meet the demands of the masses it is easy to fall into a trail that closely parallels others. There are certain unique differences, but in the end I think that this is why ROMs are similar today.
Anyway, please know that I meant you no disrespect or flame. I was just trying to explain my perspective on why there was not as much variation as we would all like, and why occasionally someone discovers a bug.

Very well written. And well said. Yes theres always a problem when adding/removing features.. but the point is to release when its stable/feature rich. Anyways. I thank you for the input. And soon DUI (DaisUI) will hit xda servers.

cuz aosp is aosp no matter how u look at it. differences are kernels.. updated toolchains.. and customizations... like nameless roms otg mode.. pretty neat.. or sokps dolby audio... its easy to cherry pick stuff u like about roms n drop them into cm... rom devs really just making stuff THEY like n sharing with us

I have just moved from sprint s3 to s4. Was a huge fan of m.o.a.r., wicked sensations, and wicked x. For their customized everything. I am NOT a programmer so please don't slam me. But most of the roms I have seen for the s4 are kind of vanilla. Are there any roms like wicked out there for s4 or is it time to learn to do it myself?

Reverend Gonzo said:
I have just moved from sprint s3 to s4. Was a huge fan of m.o.a.r., wicked sensations, and wicked x. For their customized everything. I am NOT a programmer so please don't slam me. But most of the roms I have seen for the s4 are kind of vanilla. Are there any roms like wicked out there for s4 or is it time to learn to do it myself?
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You can try out negalite
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dead forum is dead forum.. can't really complain considering how dead development for the device really is.. i think there are too many phones these days being released which does has an impact on how much modding happens. i remember the days of the ppc-6700/touchpro/2/etc and how those devices even after years there was tons of active stuff going on (and those were WM devices lol). now the peak of most devices tend to be 6 months before people seem to lose interest and they upgrade to the next phone with barely any improvements. i tend to stick to a phone for at least 2 to maybe 3 gens before i swap. currently i'm on the S4 and skipped the S5 because how lackluster it is.. will wait to see how the S6 looks like, but i think the S4 will be my last samsung for a while.. my eyes are set on the Xperia Z3 coming out to sprint this fall. samsung seems to be stuck in the plastic shell generation after generation.. well this is a whole other topic

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dead forum is dead forum.. can't really complain considering how dead development for the device really is.. i think there are too many phones these days being released which does has an impact on how much modding happens. i remember the days of the ppc-6700/touchpro/2/etc and how those devices even after years there was tons of active stuff going on (and those were WM devices lol). now the peak of most devices tend to be 6 months before people seem to lose interest and they upgrade to the next phone with barely any improvements. i tend to stick to a phone for at least 2 to maybe 3 gens before i swap. currently i'm on the S4 and skipped the S5 because how lackluster it is.. will wait to see how the S6 looks like, but i think the S4 will be my last samsung for a while.. my eyes are set on the Xperia Z3 coming out to sprint this fall. samsung seems to be stuck in the plastic shell generation after generation.. well this is a whole other topic
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S3 seems to be running strong still. Had I not dropped mine, I would have stayed with it.
Which rom are you running on your S4
I found Negalite and really like it... but it looks like its dead too.

You guys know there is a Unified Development forum for the S4 right? Most non-TW ROMs have moved to there.

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You guys know there is a Unified Development forum for the S4 right? Most non-TW ROMs have moved to there.
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For some reason that sub forum doesn't work with Tapatalk for me, always wants to open in chrome. Anyone else experience this or know why it happens?

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For some reason that sub forum doesn't work with Tapatalk for me, always wants to open in chrome. Anyone else experience this or know why it happens?
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Redirects don't work on mobile apps. The real thread is located in the International Galaxy S4 section. Here is the real thread if you want to subscribe in Tapatalk http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/unified-development

Need a rom suggestion..

I'm getting the N6 tomorrow and it'll be my first rom device in over a year. I'm looking for a rom that's fast, smooth and stable. Features and customizations aren't important as performance and battery.
What do you recommend?
Thanks in advance!

CM12 with Franco Kernel :good:

Rastapop or Terminus rom with Elementalx kernel

simms22 said:
Rastapop or Terminus rom with Elementalx kernel
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I've heard good things about Rastapop. What's your opinion on Chroma?

J.Guido85 said:
I've heard good things about Rastapop. What's your opinion on Chroma?
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Obviously what your suggestions here are going to be biased towards the particular user's experiences.
It's like coming to this forum and asking need a phone suggestion, everybody will suggest a Nexus 6 because it will be biased. My recommendations would be look at all of them (or the ones that interest you) and give it a try.
That's my most unbiased answer. If you're looking for a biased answer then it'd be Chroma because it's a ROM maintained by me and I'm quite passionate about maintaining and providing updates with the newest and latest things that I personally find useful.

J.Guido85 said:
I'm getting the N6 tomorrow and it'll be my first rom device in over a year. I'm looking for a rom that's fast, smooth and stable. Features and customizations aren't important as performance and battery.
What do you recommend?
Thanks in advance!
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I use Chroma Rom atm and its very stable, its close to stock with some nice tweaks and good batterylife imo. Very happy with this rom so far.

zephiK said:
Obviously what your suggestions here are going to be biased towards the particular user's experiences.
It's like coming to this forum and asking need a phone suggestion, everybody will suggest a Nexus 6 because it will be biased. My recommendations would be look at all of them (or the ones that interest you) and give it a try.
That's my most unbiased answer. If you're looking for a biased answer then it'd be Chroma because it's a ROM maintained by me and I'm quite passionate about maintaining and providing updates with the newest and latest things that I personally find useful.
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There's is nothing wrong with recommending your own product. The fact that you took the time to post your opinion is awesome. I know asking people's opinion on roms can be kind of tricky, But It's nice to hear peoples mini review and opinion even if it's, Because they use the Rom.
Question, Do you have a video or tutorial on your Rom, I'm going to run with it, But would like to know more about it and it's features. Thanks!

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There's is nothing wrong with recommending your own product. The fact that you took the time to post your opinion is awesome. I know asking people's opinion on roms can be kind of tricky, But It's nice to hear peoples mini review and opinion even if it's, Because they use the Rom.
Question, Do you have a video or tutorial on your Rom, I'm going to run with it, But would like to know more about it and it's features. Thanks!
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Certainly there is nothing wrong with it but it feels dirty to lead someone onto another person's benefit. I respect honesty and am a honest person by heart. I try my best to give the most unbiased answer to others.
And absolutely, there are two video/reviews of the ROM although they are on older builds of the ROM. You can see a newer updated feature list on the changelog https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c7wNrT0khaipv-M0Z35OPQ8sxPHO-e9-Rk945fo4iJE/edit compared to the date of the video/reading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZVMRE6oX_A
https://medium.com/phishfi/chroma-by-zephik-a52e33d6e1a8
@Andromjb also has a bunch of other videos of other ROMs if you're interested in seeking what else is out there https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOFywydM2rhaMcriU6A92Q/videos

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I've heard good things about Rastapop. What's your opinion on Chroma?
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ive heard nothing but good things about chroma

J.Guido85 said:
I'm getting the N6 tomorrow and it'll be my first rom device in over a year. I'm looking for a rom that's fast, smooth and stable. Features and customizations aren't important as performance and battery.
What do you recommend?
Thanks in advance!
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I'll suggest you to use Parandroid Android with Fraco Kernel

Best thing to do however is to try out a few roms and keep the one you like most. It all depends on your preferences and usage.

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Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 6 sous DU Shamu 5.0.2 LRX22G (100% FR)

@J.Guido85 Your ROM choice will come down to your preference. Do you want a minimalistic or feature packed ROM? Chroma will in fact give you the most features along with some of the best performance/battery life available. Rastapop will offer you a very light feature set as it is a very minimal but stable ROM.
If you're in fact looking for a ROM that will give you the best features & performance on the N6, Chroma is definitely among the top N6 ROM's in terms of great support, features, stability, and battery life. I've been personally using Chroma has my daily driver ever since flashing it well over a month ago, it continues to impress with every update.
I have a YouTube channel with a lot of Nexus 6 ROM overviews you can check out if you want here. I update weekly.
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Thanks for the mention! I have an up to date review of Chroma setting on my drive, just haven't had the time to edit & upload yet.

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Features and customizations aren't important as performance and battery.
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You do realise that performance and battery are opposite ends of the same scale? And that bias towards one is bias away from the other? Also that every kernel can be tweaked to bias towards either as much as you want?
Basically I'm saying they're all the same if you know what you're doing. Choose based on features then tweak to performance OR battery

Which ROM do you recommend?

I am gonna root and install a ROM tonight. I see dozens and I'm not sure what the major differences are. My old philosophy has been to pick the ROM that has the most thread views or posts.
The things that are important to me are stability and performance tweaks. I don't want much of the developer's personal customizations if possible.
Also, any tips before I get started? Thanks in advance.

just so you know, the most popular roms are usually the furthest from the best. popular does not equal best. my recommendation is either rastapop rom or terminus.

Rooted and installed my first rom in my nexus. Pure shamu. Awesome ROM, stable, quick and sufficient tweaks.

Hazzo31 said:
Rooted and installed my first rom in my nexus. Pure shamu. Awesome ROM, stable, quick and sufficient tweaks.
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What is this pure shamu?

simms22 said:
just so you know, the most popular roms are usually the furthest from the best. popular does not equal best. my recommendation is either rastapop rom or terminus.
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Can you tell me why you chose those two?

Chroma ROM.

The best advice anyone can give you is, try a bunch and decide for yourself. No body but you is going to know what is best for you. Read the ROM threads and see what users are saying. That's the best way.

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Can you tell me why you chose those two?
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rasta roms ive been running for years. its built by a very good friend, and he does lots of the actual coding himself. probably the cleanest roms around. terminus is also built by a good friend, he started learning 2 years ago, and he does it well. but he doesnt really code. but its a good rom nevertheless. terminus includes more tweaks than rastapop.

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rasta roms ive been running for years. its built by a very good friend, and he does lots of the actual coding himself. probably the cleanest roms around. terminus is also built by a good friend, he started learning 2 years ago, and he does it well. but he doesnt really code. but its a hood rom nevertheless. terminus includes more tweaks than rastapop.
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Hmmmmmmmmm. Might try terminus instead of rasta.
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What do you need help with?
Also Chroma is based off Rastapop with some elements of terminus, not too many as I've drifted the ROM to other sources. Pretty clean as I go through everything and use test builds on a daily basis.

I ran across Purity ROM a few days ago and it's really good. You won't find it here though. Search Purity on Google plus.
Lots of really good ROMs for the nexus 6 though. That's why I love having a nexus.

SinLess ROM is smooth like butter, not very much customization as AOSP ROMS tho. If you are looking for a lot of customization, then the roms mentioned above are very nice.

zephiK said:
What do you need help with?
Also Chroma is based off Rastapop with some elements of terminus, not too many as I've drifted the ROM to other sources. Pretty clean as I go through everything and use test builds on a daily basis.
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I'm good now. Followed the guide and figured it all out. Just coming from the Galaxy series where there were programs that did it all for you. 1st time doing ADB installs.

Always slim

All ROMs are same

Hi guys,
I know its really hard to create a new ROM and updating it and giving to users. But since the launch of Android 5.0 Lollipop I don't find difference between all major ROMs.
If there is difference, it is of the Bugs. Some ROMs got big bugs and some with small bugs. But rest is same. The looks the feel, everything same (Except MIUI - which is not on Android 5.0).
I have tried almost all of them. Thanks to all the devs. But my question is there any ROM which is unique???
I am getting same functions in all of them with same looks Even they are same in smoothness and working.
The difference is created by Cyanogen ROMs with theme engine, but now all ROMs now include that theme engine. So we are basically using the same ROM everywhere.
At the moment I am using DirtyUnicorn and I don't want to change because all the ROMs are same.
Is there any ROM which is unique??????? Any?????

Don't say that I should change theme or launcher. It just makes the availability of ROMs a joke.
I am still waiting for MIUI or Lewa if it arrives.

gautam.is.sharma said:
Don't say that I should change theme or launcher. It just makes the availability of ROMs a joke.
I am still waiting for MIUI or Lewa if it arrives.
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If you dont like them then by all means make one yourself. Just wait MIUI is also gonna look alot like the rest. Android is made for you to change things to make it your own. So use a launcher and a custom theme or make your own rom.
Also if you are looking for verity then you should not have gotten a nexus. Get a Touchwiz or Sense device. This way you have more options.

See I do agree with you. Most roms are pretty similar when compared to back in the days of A4.2.
What I think is more important is the choice of kernel. Allowing the ability to over/underclock and control voltages automatically and many other things. I think learning how to use a kernel and it's various governers is what will separate phones.

I dont know why so little roms have cm profiles. It's a feature that have much more benefits than any theme engine
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive

zelendel said:
If you dont like them then by all means make one yourself. Just wait MIUI is also gonna look alot like the rest. Android is made for you to change things to make it your own. So use a launcher and a custom theme or make your own rom.
Also if you are looking for verity then you should not have gotten a nexus. Get a Touchwiz or Sense device. This way you have more options.
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See the second post.
I am not against devs and ROMs, but my only thought is that they are all same.
Even once we used to have great Paranoid ROMs with great features, but now it is nothing but same as all CMs.
With Android 5.0 Google has done something that is now killing Custom ROMs. The ROMs are becoming similar or I should say same.
MIUI is different because they are doing different, but all others are just mixing functions and giving you CM ROMs.

gautam.is.sharma said:
See the second post.
I am not against devs and ROMs, but my only thought is that they are all same.
Even once we used to have great Paranoid ROMs with great features, but now it is nothing but same as all CMs.
With Android 5.0 Google has done something that is now killing Custom ROMs. The ROMs are becoming similar or I should say same.
MIUI is different because they are doing different, but all others are just mixing functions and giving you CM ROMs.
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Well first thing is MIUI is not really different. They are just coping others as well. Notice how they are still on KK? Yes many features are the Same in alot of roms and that is because users have come to expect those and Devs are working like crazy to get them moved up to 5.0 and working. As for them giving you CM roms that is where your wrong. Many have completely ditched CM roms sources due to their dumb ways of merging untested code.
I wont even talk about Paranoid android. They never came up with anything original.
Android at the base is all supposed to look the same. This is what Google Whats and got it with the nasty thing they call the Material design.
I saw your second post. My answer will still be the same. The days of themed roms are over. You are given a clean base to make it your way. So take that and make it yours with a theme and launchers and such.

zelendel said:
Well first thing is MIUI is not really different. They are just coping others as well. Notice how they are still on KK? Yes many features are the Same in alot of roms and that is because users have come to expect those and Devs are working like crazy to get them moved up to 5.0 and working. As for them giving you CM roms that is where your wrong. Many have completely ditched CM roms sources due to their dumb ways of merging untested code.
I wont even talk about Paranoid android. They never came up with anything original.
Android at the base is all supposed to look the same. This is what Google Whats and got it with the nasty thing they call the Material design.
I saw your second post. My answer will still be the same. The days of themed roms are over. You are given a clean base to make it your way. So take that and make it yours with a theme and launchers and such.
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What I really love about MIUI is that they are working in completely different manner. They are working hard on including new features and providing new looks and with a big market for customization.
Whereas CM are great too, and they are the base ROMs for maybe all the ROMs we are using right now.
I don't think Paranoid didn't did anything new, they gave us Hybrid ROMs. But with Android 5.0, they no more my favorites.

gautam.is.sharma said:
What I really love about MIUI is that they are working in completely different manner. They are working hard on including new features and providing new looks and with a big market for customization.
Whereas CM are great too, and they are the base ROMs for maybe all the ROMs we are using right now.
I don't think Paranoid didn't did anything new, they gave us Hybrid ROMs. But with Android 5.0, they no more my favorites.
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Almost no ROMs are using cm as a base any more. Miui is just taking ideas from iOS. They are even working on a whole new setup so they can release devices in the us without apple sue them out of business.

zelendel said:
Almost no ROMs are using cm as a base any more. Miui is just taking ideas from iOS. They are even working on a whole new setup so they can release devices in the us without apple sue them out of business.
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Copying is what they are doing for themes. I don't think that's bad. iOS is more Android, so if MIUI is copying the design then it's not the issue. Their environment is different. So do CMs.

gautam.is.sharma said:
Copying is what they are doing for themes. I don't think that's bad. iOS is more Android, so if MIUI is copying the design then it's not the issue. Their environment is different. So do CMs.
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So let me get this straight. You think coping is ok yet dont like that all the roms "seem" the same to you?
IOS is more Android?
Your right their environment is different. They dont care what users want or say.
Cm is not even worth mentioning anymore really. They are fast becoming just as big a joke as MIUI in the android world. No one with any real thoughts of their own even use their roms anymore.

The problem is that we all think that the developers actually develop something.
The matter of the fact is that they only tinker with what Google gave them.
So I wouldn't hold my breath for a sense like rom that has its own framework.
No one has got time for that. Big things come from big companies. Or maybe from a team of good friends.

A long time a go a bunch of people gave us Theme Engine, Hybrid Mode, Profiles, PIE, Heads-up, Immersive mode and lots of stuff that was new at the time. I really believe that the creative process is, has been and will be strong on XDA - Developers... but i agree with the OP albeit for different reasons.
I think that as technology, products or processes are understood better, being innovative, creative or "disruptive" becomes harder:
1.- We (the consumer) demand a series of features that become standarized which tramples innovation
2.-And there is the thing with the source material P.E. There is so much a thinkerer can do with a hammer a 2x4 and a couple of nails... Same with android.
3.- As a technology matures the innovation rate diminishes. Look at clocks, TV, videogames or smartphones! Every year there are new models, but little game changing technology even when there are hundred of people working on with, fully paid and with the backing of big companies.
Science and technology advance is not linear... I think that we are on a low point on ROM innovation but to me, that only means that soon somebody will come up with something new and great.

Android roms are same?
Yes they are with a little difference in each and every rom ..coz they are built from the same mother source...AOSP...
Google itself builds it factory images from aosp with touch of google changes...
Every oem uses the aosp and modifies it to make sense, touchwiz, zenui etc etc...
Things have certainly changed in past few years when we only had cm pa pac man ..
Now we have 100s of options ..some developers even kind enough to merge our 'wanted' changes in their rom.
So instead of looking at this thing as 'all are same with little changes' , look it as a 'single thing with 100s of options/modifications' to exactly suit your needs.
Yes its confusing sometimes especially when you are a nexus user
Try a different oem if u want a great change on changing custom roms (migrating from touchwiz to vanilla android gives a wow feeling )

Of course they're 100 pretty much exactly the same roms out there. It's really hard to notice any difference among them. It´s all true. Also calling every room-cooker a developer is in my opinion little too much.
It's been already stated that if you want more variation is better to go for oem devices. however probably at the price of never getting fully working aosp/cm rom (unles we're talking about gpe devices). If you want variation go for flagship oems if you want to enjoy aosp go for nexus.

gautam.is.sharma said:
Do you think all ROMs are basically same in Android 5.0??
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"Same" is a relative term like "IS".
A relative term is that it is different for different people or situations. An example: someone who is 5 feet tall might think someone who is 5 feet six inches tall is tall, but someone who is 6 feet would think that that person is short.
So I voted no, I don't think all ROM's are the same but they are definitely very similar.
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~Peace

Agreed, there does not seem to be a lot of innovation in Lollipop ROM features. I have tried Euphoria, TeamUB, crDroid, Slim, RastaPOP, OminROM and XenonHD.
So far they all have the same features. The best one really is XenonHD with its custom long press and double-tap actions on the Nav Bar buttons. This is a great carry over feature from KitKat.
All the other ROMs suck in terms of "new" features.

+1 ..

I guess after 3 4 yrs being on xda, flashing roms with different features, developers amazing us with new and unique features every few months, for me Now it all comes down to the daily use of these features
The PA per app color, pie and omni roms split screen were something that i could use as a daily driver. I really miss PA roms Pie, slimpie somehow is just isnt the same. I miss the tablet mode from PA too.
What i want as a user is a smooth stable rom with some basic tweaks that i dont find on a stock rom and less battery drain. Which i pretty much have with LiquidSmooth.
The speed of innovation has slowed down or rather there arent many more innovative things to do that can be used for daily use anymore i guess. Im not complaining here, just a thought.
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Gravitybox or MiUi CM is not same