I'm posting this here because this is really only relevant to those of us who have flashed custom roms.
Like many of us, I was interested in flashing because I didn't like the limitations of the FireOS, especially stuck on Android 4.0. Sadly, the CM13 launcher doesn't pass "the wife test" the way the original FireOS Carousel did.
Turns out some people in my family actually enjoy using the Kindle as a... you know, Kindle. Yes, I'll be installing Amazon's apps so we don't lose access to that, but is there any way to get a launcher similar to the Carousel? Or a way to get the Carousel launcher apk (would that even work)? That way we can have our cake and eat it too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218475
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If you have the "Tate"
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If you have the "Tate"
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't isn't that a thread about putting the entire FireOS back on and wipe out the newer version of Android I'm running now? That's not what I want to do. My wife likes the Carousel UI for browsing the latest books and videos, but we otherwise hate the browser, softkeys (back, home, menu and search somehow look so dorky and out of place compared to the modern 3 shape setup), and inability to install most apps which require kitkat or later.
In other words, I'm happy I'm not running FireOS anymore. The only thing I liked about it was the Carousel launcher. I'd love to get the original launcher back if that's somehow possible, along with its ability to tap into my Amazon account and offer suggestions based on our habits. But I recognize that its probably more likely I'll manage to get an alternative launcher than port the original.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't isn't that a thread about putting the entire FireOS back on and wipe out the newer version of Android I'm running now? That's not what I want to do. My wife likes the Carousel UI for browsing the latest books and videos, but we otherwise hate the browser, softkeys (back, home, menu and search somehow look so dorky and out of place compared to the modern 3 shape setup), and inability to install most apps which require kitkat or later.
In other words, I'm happy I'm not running FireOS anymore. The only thing I liked about it was the Carousel launcher. I'd love to get the original launcher back if that's somehow possible, along with its ability to tap into my Amazon account and offer suggestions based on our habits. But I recognize that its probably more likely I'll manage to get an alternative launcher than port the original.
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You can flash Gapps, root it. So you can have "carousel" you want. But still be able to I stall play store, etc... There is another i found on a different forum that you may be looking for. It's a hybrid FireOS and aosp android....I'll have to find it. I will when I'm off work.
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It's called "kinology" not sure if it works on the Kindle you own or not. But check it out.
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You can flash Gapps, root it. So you can have "carousel" you want. But still be able to I stall play store, etc... There is another i found on a different forum that you may be looking for. It's a hybrid FireOS and aosp android....I'll have to find it. I will when I'm off work.
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It's called "kinology" not sure if it works on the Kindle you own or not. But check it out.
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Oh, interesting!
Update: I had actually read about Kinology, but I think it is still based on ICS (4.0). A bunch of apps I'm trying to install keep throwing parse errors, which I've gathered is due to the way later versions of Android handled APKs versus earlier ones. Older versions of things have sideloaded fine, but for example, the last few releases of Kodi require at leat Kitkat (4.4), and keep throwing errors upon installation. I'm afraid Kinology will have the same issue since it is so old!
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Just wondering, i was thinking of getting this over the nexus 7, any thoughts?
kyomagi said:
Just wondering, i was thinking of getting this over the nexus 7, any thoughts?
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in simple no not at this time until the bootloader is unlocked and custom recovery is possible KFHD owners only have root and sideloading
to work with...but i have hope that someone somewhere is smarter then amazon and will crack the bootloader...
No not atm, no application like setcpu works, we need to get it unlocked as the user stated above. Gonna be awhile.
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No not atm, no application like setcpu works, we need to get it unlocked as the user stated above. Gonna be awhile.
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should i just get a nexus 7 instead?
kyomagi said:
should i just get a nexus 7 instead?
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If you want a full fledged android device, I wouldn't bank on the KFHD anytime soon. The bootloader is locked up tight.
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If you want a full fledged android device, I wouldn't bank on the KFHD anytime soon. The bootloader is locked up tight.
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Thank you, is there a way to get a similar interface like the KFHD? I kinda like it
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Thank you, is there a way to get a similar interface like the KFHD? I kinda like it
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None of the roms I've seen for the N7 have that carousel feature. Most people that want to throw a rom on a Kindle tend to dislike that interface. You can try searching but I find it unlikely.
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Thank you, is there a way to get a similar interface like the KFHD? I kinda like it
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I have my KFHD rooted and have ADW EX launcher installed and set as my default desktop. I hit the home button and I have a "stock" Android tablet (complete with Play Store and any app from there I want - although a very few won't work). I run the Amazon "launcher" (I have it as a shortcut in the ADW dock) and I have the KFHD desktop carousel.
So, with my setup, I have the best of both in one - a stock Android 4.x tablet (well, 98%) and the KFHD tablet. :victory: You won't get that with the Nexus.
You don't get the Amazon Prime Video (and maybe any Amazon video?) with the Nexus. I had both and kept the KFHD over the Nexus for the Amazon goodies!
Hope that helps your decision.
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I have my KFHD rooted and have ADW EX launcher installed and set as my default desktop. I hit the home button and I have a "stock" Android tablet (complete with Play Store and any app from there I want - although a very few won't work). I run the Amazon "launcher" (I have it as a shortcut in the ADW dock) and I have the KFHD desktop carousel.
So, with my setup, I have the best of both in one - a stock Android 4.x tablet (well, 98%) and the KFHD tablet. :victory: You won't get that with the Nexus.
You don't get the Amazon Prime Video (and maybe any Amazon video?) with the Nexus. I had both and kept the KFHD over the Nexus for the Amazon goodies!
Hope that helps your decision.
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can you post more information on how you did that? I have the root guide, but i have no info on the ADW launcher.
Also, is there a way to expand the kindle fire memory via usb cable or any other means?
I had a rooted KFHD and it felt like nothing more than a gimped android device. You won't have Google now, no voice commands (unless Amazon implements it), talk isn't fully functional, and so forth. These will all be dependant on a custom ROM.
I am not a big media consumer so the Amazon ecosystem is not what I want. I enjoy the openness of the nexus and all the new jellybean and beyond updates from Google. Amazon will just be Amazon.
Don't get me wrong, the KFHD is not a bad device at all, you just need to like their ecosystem. It's even better if you have Amazon prime to help you consume media for "free".
It comes down to your needs and wants but again, if you're just looking for KFHD hardware and pure android software, it's not the best choice right now until the bootloader gets unlocked. That was the position I was in and I did not regret returning the KFHD for the N7. I felt nothing but trapped when using the KFHD. I'm very happy with the N7.
The 16 GB N7 is now $199 on par with the KFHD and you can get a 32 GB for $249.
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can you post more information on how you did that? I have the root guide, but i have no info on the ADW launcher.
Also, is there a way to expand the kindle fire memory via usb cable or any other means?
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ADW EX is a paid app available on Google Play, but other free launchers work as well (there is a thread here somewhere). You just have to put the apk in system/app folder (again you have to be rooted to do this) using a file manager with root access (I use Root Browser Lite - it's free). But don't install it, just move it there. Reboot and when you hit the home key, the dialog should pop up to ask you which launcher you want to use. Click the launcher you want (ADW in this case) and select if you want to use it always (I did) or just once (in which case you'll be asked every time you click the home button).
Then like I said, I put the original launcher (called Launcher oddly enough ) in the dock so I could access the Amazon stuff. Alternatively, you could put it on the desktop, or just launch it from the app drawer.
As far as memory, I'm not sure what you mean...
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I had a rooted KFHD and it felt like nothing more than a gimped android device. You won't have Google now, no voice commands (unless Amazon implements it), talk isn't fully functional, and so forth. These will all be dependant on a custom ROM.
I am not a big media consumer so the Amazon ecosystem is not what I want. I enjoy the openness of the nexus and all the new jellybean and beyond updates from Google. Amazon will just be Amazon.
Don't get me wrong, the KFHD is not a bad device at all, you just need to like their ecosystem. It's even better if you have Amazon prime to help you consume media for "free".
It comes down to your needs and wants but again, if you're just looking for KFHD hardware and pure android software, it's not the best choice right now until the bootloader gets unlocked. That was the position I was in and I did not regret returning the KFHD for the N7. I felt nothing but trapped when using the KFHD. I'm very happy with the N7.
The 16 GB N7 is now $199 on par with the KFHD and you can get a 32 GB for $249.
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I'm kind of the opposite as I don't use any of the voice commands, etc you mention, but do use the Amazon features - especially the Prime Video (can't beat it for $80/year along with the free shipping deal!).
I had the Nexus 7, but felt that it didn't really offer anything more than my Galaxy Note except for a bigger screen of course! I'm rooted with an AoKP ROM, so it's stock with extra goodies. As I mentioned Prime Video made the decision easy for me (and I travel so it's nice to have that option when the hotel's entertainment choices suk!)
That's the beauty of Android though - we have a choice!:victory:
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I'm kind of the opposite as I don't use any of the voice commands, etc you mention, but do use the Amazon features - especially the Prime Video (can't beat it for $80/year along with the free shipping deal!).
I had the Nexus 7, but felt that it didn't really offer anything more than my Galaxy Note except for a bigger screen of course! I'm rooted with an AoKP ROM, so it's stock with extra goodies. As I mentioned Prime Video made the decision easy for me (and I travel so it's nice to have that option when the hotel's entertainment choices suk!)
That's the beauty of Android though - we have a choice!:victory:
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I hear ya on that. The nexus 7 is my first JB device, as my Evo 3D is still stock and stuck on ICS so this is an improved experience.
Sounds like devs are getting somewhere with hijacking the KFHD. There is hope out there, but everything is still in early development. Something good to see though.
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If you want a full fledged android device, I wouldn't bank on the KFHD anytime soon. The bootloader is locked up tight.
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And once again hashcode to the rescue TWRP IS NOW GOING TO BE HERE SOON!!!!!!!
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So recently I decided to go through and get rid of some excess files on my KFHD 7" and noticed something odd. Under the "storage" section I noticed there was a section that couldnt be selected called "others" and it is taking up a whole 3.6GB of my memory. At first I though, well maybe its the OS, but then after thinking that through again, I knew that was right because I have the 16GB model and the device already takes out the OS memory and shows 12GB available to use, so my question stands, what exactly is in this "others" section and why is it taking up almost 4GB of memory?
On Amazon forums users have posted that relieving the system of cache from programs will reduce the number, but I have had no effect on my memory by doing this.
Anyone have any idea? It seems there is little information and nothing from Amazon themselves about this.
What's the path?
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What's the path?
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If you go to Settings and Device, should see an option that says Storage which breaks down what you have based on category, Well at the very bottom there is this section called others and its not selectable, where as the others are. Whats interesting is it seems to be in different sizes across different users but almost always seems to be taking up 2 gigs or more. One user on Amazon forums for the KFHD posted a link recently that suggests its additional app information saved onto the tablet, most of which he said was games. He suggest deleting the Gameloft folder and that it would clear up the storage. Seems weird that this information wouldnt be included in the "app" section though, seeing as its suppose to be app info.
It is only statistics, not real partitions. I have ยก7.5 Gig. In "others"!
Do you think I must delete them?....joke.
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It is easy, if you want all the memory, uninstall your valuable apps. The first the games that took longer to install or thoose that required aditional extensions that you personaly granted.
Hey all,
So I just turned on the Swype keyboard on my One the other day and I'm loving it so far (came from a qwerty phone previously). However, I noticed that only in the email app (Where I am getting work email via MS Exchange), the auto-capitalization and auto-spacing in between words does not exist. I have to manually capitalize the first word in every sentence as well as type in spaces in between each word. Nowhere else on the phone do I have to do that. Anybody else experiencing this? Is there a setting somewhere that I need to change?
I'd say this is effecting everyone. Same issue on the HTC EVO 4G LTE Sense 5 Mod.
Yup, noticed this as well.
Cool, thanks. I guess it's good it's not just me, but now we just have to hope HTC figures it out
If you don't mind spending a buck ($.99), version 1.5.0.15186 available in the Play Store fixes the issue. Although I would think an update from HTC would be imminent to fix this free of charge.
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If you don't mind spending a buck ($.99), version 1.5.0.15186 available in the Play Store fixes the issue. Although I would think an update from HTC would be imminent to fix this free of charge.
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I am on version 1.5.3.15724 of Swype from the Play store and also have this issue. This is the newest paid version I believe. It's also strange that from withing the email app it highlights every word after entering it via swype. It's a but htc needs to fix. For now I guess I can just hit space after every word.
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UPDATE. I fixed it. I didn't have the purchased version (Swype + Dragon) selected. I switched to that and now its working. Swype + Dragon version 1.5.3.15724 in the Play Store $.99.
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UPDATE. I fixed it. I didn't have the purchased version (Swype + Dragon) selected. I switched to that and now its working. Swype + Dragon version 1.5.3.15724 in the Play Store $.99.
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I can confirm. Just bought the $0.99 paid version, upgraded from Swype Beta. Now auto-space and auto-capitalise works perfectly. It still does highlight/select each word you type, but that doesn't seem to upset how Swype works.
So relieved since I use Swype all the time. I have tried other keyboards, even permanently switched to others (and paid for the full apps) but each time I go back to Swype it just works better and more efficiently.
BTW - my current paid version installed today sits at 1.5.6.16934
Also, my handset is the unbranded version running stock 1.29.707.16
Why is this not available from Amazon?
This sucks being forced to buy it from the Play Store. I trust Amazon with my credit card #, but Google knows everything else about me so I'm not giving them my credit card too. I wonder how much Google is paying Swype on the side.
Amazon had a tab S 8.4 on their lightening deals so I went for it. I have a GS5 and am looking forward to entering the android tablet ecosystem after having an ipad for so long.
Any suggestions for a new comer to the android tablet ecosystem? Apps (Samsung or generic) tips and tricks? I'm aware of side sync 3.0 so i'll look into that. I'm a pilot so any other pilots out there with android aviation app experience, i'd love to hear your suggestions for foreflight killers.
How well will the tablet stay synced to my phone? meaning, if i download an app on my phone, will it show up on the tablet too? Just curious how well google/android does with the cross over of having and android tablet and phone.
Thanks guys!
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Amazon had a tab S 8.4 on their lightening deals so I went for it. I have a GS5 and am looking forward to entering the android tablet ecosystem after having an ipad for so long.
Any suggestions for a new comer to the android tablet ecosystem? Apps (Samsung or generic) tips and tricks? I'm aware of side sync 3.0 so i'll look into that. I'm a pilot so any other pilots out there with android aviation app experience, i'd love to hear your suggestions for foreflight killers.
How well will the tablet stay synced to my phone? meaning, if i download an app on my phone, will it show up on the tablet too? Just curious how well google/android does with the cross over of having and android tablet and phone.
Thanks guys!
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When you get it root it and flash cm if you want it smooth or debloat touchwiz, and if you download apps on your phone they won't install on your tablet but they will be listed in the Play Store under My Apps>All
You don't have to root, just bung on Nova launcher and it's fine. Yeah all apps purchased can be installed on both if compatible.
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You don't have to root, just bung on Nova launcher and it's fine. Yeah all apps purchased can be installed on both if compatible.
I definitely would not root when you first get it. Play with it for while to see it you like it the way it is before rooting. I've used Android devices for years and used to always root them. I've not rooted my last two devices and probably won't. As discussed above apps purchased on one can be installed on the other. Apps that use any sort of cloud sync are good for keeping the data on your tablet and phone in sync.
I was planning on using touchwiz for a while just to see what it was like on a tablet. I'm interested in trying CM11 or some other custom rom on it. Any suggestions of roms other than CM? CM is all i've ever used on my phone...
I have nova on my GS5 and love it. Will the licence carry over for a tablet?
Thanks guys.
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I was planning on using touchwiz for a while just to see what it was like on a tablet. I'm interested in trying CM11 or some other custom rom on it. Any suggestions of roms other than CM? CM is all i've ever used on my phone...
I have nova on my GS5 and love it. Will the licence carry over for a tablet?
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CM12? but its not stable so got some bugs
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CM12? but its not stable so got some bugs
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Haha of course. I'm assuming CM12 is based on 5.0?
What are some apps that you have on your tablet that you don't have on your phone? Just wondering how people use their tablet differently than their phone
owenrg said:
I was planning on using touchwiz for a while just to see what it was like on a tablet. I'm interested in trying CM11 or some other custom rom on it. Any suggestions of roms other than CM? CM is all i've ever used on my phone...
I have nova on my GS5 and love it. Will the licence carry over for a tablet?
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I haven't seen too many options besides CM for this tablet.
I don't have the license for nova, but for other apps that require license/payment, it transfers over.
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Haha of course. I'm assuming CM12 is based on 5.0?
What are some apps that you have on your tablet that you don't have on your phone? Just wondering how people use their tablet differently than their phone
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Yes, CM12 is based on 5.0 (Lollipop).
Mostly the same apps for me. For example, I have hulu, hbo go, etc on my phone and tablet, but would much rather watch them on the tablet given the screen size and quality.
Is there any way to install the generic Android version of Kindle Reader on a v5.11 Fire? I am trying to set these up for my kids, and mostly I can do what I need within the stock firmware, but one problem remains... For them to use the e-books from the library, using Overdrive, on their old nooks they were directed through Amazon to download to their Kindle... This is a problem becasue the Fires are registered to my Amazon ID... I don't want the kids having my password (obviously!) and so they can't get them over to the Kindle app.
On the nooks, the Kindle App had it's own login, but the Fire version seems tied to just the registered user of the device.
I've read some of the CM12.1 flashing threads, and while it seems that may be fine to make these more "generic", there are too many irrecoverable failures there for me to be comfortable doing that right now.
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Is there any way to install the generic Android version of Kindle Reader on a v5.11 Fire? I am trying to set these up for my kids, and mostly I can do what I need within the stock firmware, but one problem remains... For them to use the e-books from the library, using Overdrive, on their old nooks they were directed through Amazon to download to their Kindle... This is a problem becasue the Fires are registered to my Amazon ID... I don't want the kids having my password (obviously!) and so they can't get them over to the Kindle app.
On the nooks, the Kindle App had it's own login, but the Fire version seems tied to just the registered user of the device.
I've read some of the CM12.1 flashing threads, and while it seems that may be fine to make these more "generic", there are too many irrecoverable failures there for me to be comfortable doing that right now.
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you don't need to create a new thread for every question
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Seems to me it is easier to search/find by looking at the thread titles. if I ask ten questions buried in one post it is hard to follow, both now and for others later. But whatever works...
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Seems to me it is easier to search/find by looking at the thread titles. if I ask ten questions buried in one post it is hard to follow, both now and for others later. But whatever works...
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It is really great to have the Google Play Store to leverage the apps I already bought for the kids. But unfortunately, since the Amazon child profiles can't see them, and the issues I mentioned elswhere with the Kindle reader being tied to the device account, sigh... It looks like a move to CM might be the only option.
But one curiosity, if I stay with this setup of the Fire software and sideloaded Google Play stuff... When I go to the online play store, I see my other [older] devices registered there, but I can't see the new ones. However, if I go to the device locater, they do show up. Very strange. But I can't see them in the device list or when it comes to download/install software from the web.
Anyone else getting this to work or seeing this same behavior?
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correct amazon Fire does not show up in playstore when using a browser, at least using stock rom without modifying
I think some have gotten an app called market helper to get it to show up.
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n9yty said:
Is there any way to install the generic Android version of Kindle Reader on a v5.11 Fire? I am trying to set these up for my kids, and mostly I can do what I need within the stock firmware, but one problem remains... For them to use the e-books from the library, using Overdrive, on their old nooks they were directed through Amazon to download to their Kindle... This is a problem becasue the Fires are registered to my Amazon ID... I don't want the kids having my password (obviously!) and so they can't get them over to the Kindle app.
On the nooks, the Kindle App had it's own login, but the Fire version seems tied to just the registered user of the device.
I've read some of the CM12.1 flashing threads, and while it seems that may be fine to make these more "generic", there are too many irrecoverable failures there for me to be comfortable doing that right now.
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