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Hello guys,
i'm thinking about getting this phone soon, but I have one problem with it : is the screen dimmed with PWM ? It has almost everything I want, but I am really sensitive to flickering, that's why I can only use flicker-free phones, like the Asus Zenphone 2 that has an IPS screen with no PWM. I already searched everywhere, and I can't find any information about it, the only thing I've found is about the Zuk Z2 (non pro version) and it seems like the screen doesn't use PWM, but 5.0" is way too small for me
So if someone knows the answer, or could test it for me, it would be really nice of him/her.
Thanks a lot !
mipas13 said:
Hello guys,
i'm thinking about getting this phone soon, but I have one problem with it : is the screen dimmed with PWM ? It has almost everything I want, but I am really sensitive to flickering, that's why I can only use flicker-free phones, like the Asus Zenphone 2 that has an IPS screen with no PWM. I already searched everywhere, and I can't find any information about it, the only thing I've found is about the Zuk Z2 (non pro version) and it seems like the screen doesn't use PWM, but 5.0" is way too small for me
So if someone knows the answer, or could test it for me, it would be really nice of him/her.
Thanks a lot !
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Hi,
my standard test for this is pointing another camera at the screen and check if the pictures flickers - managed to pick out my laptop screen correctly (there are two different versions of the Lenovo X1 Carbon display). I just did the same test to the Zuk Z2 Pro and did not see any flickering. What other test do you normally do to test if a screen uses PWM?
Cheers
rien
According to notebookcheck it flickers but I personally didn't notice that.
I've already got ridden of my device (the stock firmware is unusable and i don't trust the only official one) so I cannot do any tests with it.
Thanks for the fast replies Rien and birdie
rien-ne-va-plus said:
Hi,
my standard test for this is pointing another camera at the screen and check if the pictures flickers - managed to pick out my laptop screen correctly (there are two different versions of the Lenovo X1 Carbon display). I just did the same test to the Zuk Z2 Pro and did not see any flickering. What other test do you normally do to test if a screen uses PWM?
Cheers
rien
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Did you change the brightness during the test ? Some phones seems to be flickering only when the brightness is low. Would be great if you could test it while changing the brightness from 100% to 0%
birdie said:
According to notebookcheck it flickers but I personally didn't notice that.
I've already got ridden of my device (the stock firmware is unusable and i don't trust the only official one) so I cannot do any tests with it.
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Can you give me the link ? I've only found a review about the non Pro version
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Thanks for the fast replies Rien and birdie
Did you change the brightness during the test ? Some phones seems to be flickering only when the brightness is low. Would be great if you could test it while changing the brightness from 100% to 0%
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Yes I did, but indeed I'm not so sure any more. When I hold the camera close to the display there is hard to notice some flickering indicating PWM. I don't notice it myself, though with bare eye - but that doesn't mean anything for you.
As for the firmware - I specifically bought this device to be used with alternative firmware and I'm very happy so far.
Maybe if you record it you would see some flickering ? Because sometimes I can't see it just with the camera, I need to take a picture or a video to make it clear. But if there is still nothing , then it means the pwm is just too fast for us to see it, or there's just no pwm at all.
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Maybe if you record it you would see some flickering ?
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Good idea. I made a video for you, you can watch/download it here: http://www.xup.in/dl,64103604/2017-09-07_08-44-46.mp4/ I don't see any flickering.
Cheers
rien
Ahh thanks, so the screen doesn't flicker just like you said , or it's too fast to be seen so I should be okay with it anyways
I'll probably get it thanks a lot for the help !
If you don't see PWM effect with your eyes, it doesn't seem that it is safe for your eyes. Eyes see this flickering, but brains make this effect invisible. It damages your eyes so. Read about PWM more please. There is high flickering in z2pro, I've noticed. Did anyone try to fix it with Screen dimming programs?
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Hello everyone.. I'm sorry for bad English but try to understand it's important..
I think that Huawei cheated us with p20 pro..
We paid 890 euros for one of the best mobiles in the market and Huawei used second rate display of amoled.. And please tell me did you paid 890 euros for second rate display? I don't think so..
So follow the instructions and you will see what I mean.
Go on a completely dark room, without light at all..
Use brightness 100%
Click the video and turn your phone to watch it on full screen..
W8 for the a little bit and you will see white colours coming out from your screen and tell me..
Is that normal for amoled panel?
No its not.. Black should be completely black...
I took my phone to Huawei fix center and they refuse to see.. They don't recognize it as problem and they refuse to give me my money back..
What do you say?? Check the same with s9 and s9+.
P20 pro user.
no such problem on my device.
You mean you have some dead pixels?
jh787 said:
You mean you have some dead pixels?
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No dead pixels, no white lines, just a properly working Amoled screen.
Had major light leak from the bottom of the screen it could only see it on a black background in low light
scook94 said:
no such problem on my device.
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Look better with more dark. All device has the same.
Black is only black not even a peace of white noise
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Had major light leak from the bottom of the screen it could only see it on a black background in low light
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I said use the video on full screen on a dark area and just WI to see.
scook94 said:
No dead pixels, no white lines, just a properly working Amoled screen.
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I have already check it one a 3 different devices. One from germany/ England and greek
Noexcusses said:
I have already check it one a 3 different devices. One from germany/ England and greek
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Not sure what you're trying to say.
scook94 said:
Not sure what you're trying to say.
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You will see white noise around of the screen and in. The. Middle of it..
That's is not 100% amoled screen. Do the same check with s9 and s9+
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You will see white noise around of the screen and in. The. Middle of it..
That's is not 100% amoled screen. Do the same check with s9 and s9+
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I have no white noise. Not sure what more I can say, I do NOT have the problem you are describing, end of.
No problems on mine either. The screen is pitch black on that YouTube video
No problem on mine.
Also, why on earth are you paying €890 if you just received it? They're available for at or below €700 now.
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No problem on mine.
Also, why on earth are you paying €890 if you just received it? They're available for at or below €700 now.
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Did I say that I just received it?
I bought it when it came out on the market.
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No problems on mine either. The screen is pitch black on that YouTube video
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Did I say that I just received it?
I bought it when it came out on the market.
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I forgot to say that you should have 100 % brightness
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I have no white noise. Not sure what more I can say, I do NOT have the problem you are describing, end of.
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I forgot to say that you should have 100 % brightness...
JadranB said:
No problems on mine either. The screen is pitch black on that YouTube video
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Try again an use 100% brightness
I can see what you mean. I can see it even on low brightness. I have never done this test before, so cannot comment on other oleds I've owned.
Could it be compression? I say this because after seeing the effect in this video. I tested others, and i found that the severity of the effect is lesser. Also the uniformity changed between videos, whilst staying consistant to each.
Your video was much more pronounced than some others, this makes believe that there is something else in the works.
I know when i use a pure black wallpaper, the screen is perfect black. Also im pretty sure the AOD has pure blacks too
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I can see what you mean. I can see it even on low brightness. I have never done this test before, so cannot comment on other oleds I've owned.
Could it be compression? I say this because after seeing the effect in this video. I tested others, and i found that the severity of the effect is lesser. Also the uniformity changed between videos, whilst staying consistant to each.
Your video was much more pronounced than some others, this makes believe that there is something else in the works.
I know when i use a pure black wallpaper, the screen is perfect black. Also im pretty sure the AOD has pure blacks too
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It doesn't work on wall papers..
On Video is easier to see
After November's patch we have 90Hz on all the time basically, but this also means that now the screen in dark mode is really green. Is there any way to adjust colour temperature on the Pixel 4 XL so as to correct this calibration mess? I know my S10+ can tweak colour temperature. The three available settings on Android 10 are not enough as there is no RGB adjustment.
Thanks all!
Edit: Just to be clear, rooting is not an option. Alternatively, if somebody knows where I can submit feedback to Google to resolve this horrible calibration that too would be appreciated. All grays are green. Ugh
You don't have 90 on all the time unless you've enabled developer and set it as such. The green occurs during the switching so you may want to consider enabling developer and turning on 90 all the time which can be done without root. I can say that it uses less battery than AOD (as an example) so it may be that this will fix the problem.
Unfortunately your information is outdated. 90Hz is on all the time since November patch for the Pixel 4 XL except under some limited conditions when one is not interacting with the display. I also confirmed via UFO test. The only way to get rid of the severe green tinting is to turn off smooth display which is BS. Anyway, I've decided that this product, despite its stellar camera and great physical design is unfortunately too flawed.
Battery life is poor and anxiety inducing, the display is awful (green tint, severe black crush at lower brightness settings), and even Bluetooth functionality has issues. Sure, almost all of these can be fixed by software (except battery life) but that may never happen or may take months or years to materialize. Unfortunately for $1,500 CAD that's just not good enough. There is a lot I love about the phone but this display crap is the last straw for me. Maybe Pixel 5 will do better.
Very sad and disappointed
dhorgas said:
severe black crush at lower brightness settings
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Severe? Not for me. Compared it to my Pixel 2 XL with brightness set to 0 and I could see everything just fine on the 4 XL.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Severe? Not for me. Compared it to my Pixel 2 XL with brightness set to 0 and I could see everything just fine on the 4 XL.
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Yup I agree. The black crush isn't severe at all and is the same as any oled at low brightness. The 2 XL was awful for black crush
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After November's patch we have 90Hz on all the time basically, but this also means that now the screen in dark mode is really green. Is there any way to adjust colour temperature on the Pixel 4 XL so as to correct this calibration mess? I know my S10+ can tweak colour temperature. The three available settings on Android 10 are not enough as there is no RGB adjustment.
Thanks all!
Edit: Just to be clear, rooting is not an option. Alternatively, if somebody knows where I can submit feedback to Google to resolve this horrible calibration that too would be appreciated. All grays are green. Ugh
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There are a number of apps in the Playstore that can adjust display calibration. I used one in the early days of the Pixel 2 XL, and it worked well.
Having said that, if all greys are green, then maybe your phone is faulty and should be returned?
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/6398243?hl=en-GB
EeZeEpEe said:
Severe? Not for me. Compared it to my Pixel 2 XL with brightness set to 0 and I could see everything just fine on the 4 XL.
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Reuben_skelz92 said:
Yup I agree. The black crush isn't severe at all and is the same as any oled at low brightness. The 2 XL was awful for black crush
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Interesting perspectives. I had a feeling that there may perhaps be something wrong with my device at lower brightness seeing as I cannot fathom how DisplayMate could possibly rate the Pixel 4 XL display the way they did if the display was the way mine is. If you look at my post history as well I too praised the display at one point, but my praise was (in my case) misplaced if you take into account low brightness. This was, by far, the worst OLED I've used ever, which leads me to my comment below...
StrangerWeather said:
There are a number of apps in the Playstore that can adjust display calibration. I used one in the early days of the Pixel 2 XL, and it worked well.
Having said that, if all greys are green, then maybe your phone is faulty and should be returned?
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/6398243?hl=en-GB
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Ultimately this is what I decided to do. I cannot see how this can be normal. It is truly awful. I think you cannot appreciate just how awful it is because no amount of explanation here will quite paint the picture. Since I have the S10+ and the iPhone 11 Pro, I had put them side by side just to confirm I'm not somehow going crazy and biasing my opinion and the difference was so stark that it made the Pixel 4 XL look like it was a $200 budget phone. The Pixel 4 XL has no colour detail, suffers from terrible black crush, and is completely miscalibrated with all colours at low brightness tending to green.
Last but not least, those apps you mention are all filters. There is no way outside of rooting to actually adjust the RGB balance. For this expensive of a phone, that's just not acceptable and neither is waiting for the issue to be addressed.
I may try another Pixel 4 XL just to see how it compares but I do feel that this isn't as isolated as one may think.
It's very annoying. I manually disable Smooth display in the evenings now. Hoping Google can fix this.
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Interesting perspectives. I had a feeling that there may perhaps be something wrong with my device at lower brightness seeing as I cannot fathom how DisplayMate could possibly rate the Pixel 4 XL display the way they did if the display was the way mine is. If you look at my post history as well I too praised the display at one point, but my praise was (in my case) misplaced if you take into account low brightness. This was, by far, the worst OLED I've used ever, which leads me to my comment below...
Ultimately this is what I decided to do. I cannot see how this can be normal. It is truly awful. I think you cannot appreciate just how awful it is because no amount of explanation here will quite paint the picture. Since I have the S10+ and the iPhone 11 Pro, I had put them side by side just to confirm I'm not somehow going crazy and biasing my opinion and the difference was so stark that it made the Pixel 4 XL look like it was a $200 budget phone. The Pixel 4 XL has no colour detail, suffers from terrible black crush, and is completely miscalibrated with all colours at low brightness tending to green.
Last but not least, those apps you mention are all filters. There is no way outside of rooting to actually adjust the RGB balance. For this expensive of a phone, that's just not acceptable and neither is waiting for the issue to be addressed.
I may try another Pixel 4 XL just to see how it compares but I do feel that this isn't as isolated as one may think.
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Yeah I don't know if you got a bad screen or what but it's amazingly better over the Pixel 2 XL other than brightness. When indoors and at similar brightness, it's very comparable to my wife's S9+.
Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
The screen is comparable to the OnePlus 7 pro just calibrated a bit different. Any phone or any oled you can get a crappy defective unit, it your not happy swap it out.
I do wish Google gave us more options like OnePlus to adjust the white point etc, that would solve things to some extent as most people prefer or are use to different white points
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P.s you can root and put kiriskua kernel on and calibrate the screen white point, saturation etc
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EeZeEpEe said:
Yeah I don't know if you got a bad screen or what but it's amazingly better over the Pixel 2 XL other than brightness. When indoors and at similar brightness, it's very comparable to my wife's S9+.
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The green in low brightness is a thing, but should only be really low brightness....does sound like yours is more defective than software
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It's very annoying. I manually disable Smooth display in the evenings now. Hoping Google can fix this.
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That's the part that I'm not willing to bet the $1,500 on. I guess I should also be clear that if I disable smooth display - that is I go back to 60Hz - the colour calibration issue is largely resolved. The colour reproduction and black crush are still there at very low or minimum brightness, but not as bad or as prominent as with the 90Hz calibration. This also does not affect the Pixel 4 devices the same because Pixel 4 (non-XL) reverts to 60Hz for any brightness lower than ~40% even after November patch.
Reuben_skelz92 said:
The screen is comparable to the OnePlus 7 pro just calibrated a bit different. Any phone or any oled you can get a crappy defective unit, it your not happy swap it out.
I do wish Google gave us more options like OnePlus to adjust the white point etc, that would solve things to some extent as most people prefer or are use to different white points
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The green in low brightness is a thing, but should only be really low brightness....does sound like yours is more defective than software
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Agreed on the "having more options". With that said, I only care about that because the display is as bad as it is at low brightness. If I have time tonight, while I still haven't sent the phone back, I may just try to do a side-by-side comparison for you guys with the S10+ and iPhone 11 Pro. The differences are truly night and day (no pun intended). I am so, so disappointed that this is even an issue. I genuinely enjoyed the Pixel experience way more than I liked any of my Android devices so far. I stayed away from generations 1-3 because I wanted them to find their groove and finally felt that this was the time to jump in, only to be disappointed again. I will likely try another device just to see if it makes a difference and just how much, but I doubt it will be much better. Just as an FYI, in a completely dark room I run my brightness at minimum setting since it reduces glare. A good, properly calibrated OLED should still be able to produce a decent picture. The Pixel 4 XL, my Pixel 4 XL, is far from decent.
Edit: By the way, here is one really good example of it from Reddit https://camo.githubusercontent.com/...3682f45785a68422f666236646162656237642e706e67. It's not my phone, but this is the exact issue. Look at the grays - they are literally green. Here is another set of reports from Reddit as well https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/ds6rd6/pixel_4_xl_screen_tint/. I am going to try to do my own photos tonight to post here.
I don't have anything like what you show in the link you posted, I'm forced on here since it turns out it doesn't change battery life much in my use. AOD uses something on the order of twice as much as an example. In any event I'm a home theater enthusiast and have spent some time calibrating, not I'm an expert time, but time enough to recognize blooming and other common display problems and I don't see that night or day at any brightness. If I did I'd have to agree, that wouldn't work for me.
Okay so I was able to reproduce this issue at will now and can say exactly how you can test for it. Basic display settings are Ambient EQ On, Ambient Display Off, Smooth Display On (90Hz enabled), Dark Mode Enabled, Night-shift Enabled, November patch though I think the same issue affects the launch software but to a lesser extent. For ease of testing, turn off auto-adjusting brightness. Once you have this set, here is what you do to see the problem yourself (note that the settings I mentioned are just what I had set when I tested this so I recommend using the same so its apples to apples comparison):
1. Make sure you have the default wallpaper set for this test since it is the easiest to detect issues with it.
2. Pull down the quick settings shade, drop the brightness slider all the way to zero, then close the quick settings.
3. Turn off the display by pressing the power button, wait maybe 5-10 seconds, then turn it back on. You will notice that the screen (at least in even a moderately lit room) is barely readable. It should now be red-shifted.
4. Pull down the quick settings again and start moving the brightness slider from 0% to 100% slowly, then repeat the process of moving the slider back and forth for a bit and note the colour changes. You will notice that the true-ish gray will be somewhere around 75% brightness or higher. Anything below this will start to red-shift quite severely (your grays will look more red/purple).
5. Set the brightness slider to 100% and close the quick settings, then swipe down to open them again.
6. Start moving the brightness slider from 100% towards zero and pay attention to the screen colour. You will notice that true gray quickly starts to degrade to greenish-gray, then quite severely green, until finally the brightness collapses severely around 10%-15% of the slider. Your display is now severely green shifted and moving the brightness slider back and forth will just show this effect switching to true gray around 70%-75% and up, and to severe green shift for anything below that.
7. Finally, drag the brightness down to zero again, then turn off your display via the power button. Turn on the display again and move the slider around again. Your display is now no longer green shifted, but it is now red-shifted. Repeating the same steps over and over will result in the same behaviour, back and forth red-shift when screen is turned off with brightness at zero, green shift when brightness is turned down after the device engaged 90Hz refresh rate and so on...
I actually recorded a video of this happening and will see how I can share it with Google.
So glad I found this post, I thought I was the only person experiencing this. do we try and exchange the device? Or wait for a software update?
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So glad I found this post, I thought I was the only person experiencing this. do we try and exchange the device? Or wait for a software update?
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I am actually talking to Google as I type this. I sent them my video and they confirmed the problem. They are escalating it now with all of the detail that I have provided so far, but they cannot tell me if or when it will be resolved at the moment. They are not stating that this is a hardware issue or an issue with my device. They believe that it is firmware/software, introduced or maybe made much worse by the November patch. I did inform them that the issue existed with the October patch, but it was made much worse with the November patch. Interestingly enough, while testing with them we confirmed that the green shift occurs even if smooth display is completely off or the smooth display is forced on. Turning off smooth display eliminates most of the red shift (though not all).
To answer the latter part of your question more specifically - this could end up being similar to the Pixel 2 XL POLED fiasco so there may not be a way for Google to fix this in software. Whether you are willing to take that risk is up to you. I am going to send my device back and am trying to get the Google dev team to update me on the progress of the issue regardless. At some point in the near future I'd like to be able to re-buy the Pixel 4 XL free of this problem.
I wonder if rooting and putting kurisuka Kernel would hekl
Reuben_skelz92 said:
I wonder if rooting and putting kurisuka Kernel would hekl
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Perhaps but those days are behind me. I simply don't have time to do this any more. I need the device to work solid out of the box. If you have the Pixel 4 XL, were you able to follow my instructions and reproduce the issue?
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Perhaps but those days are behind me. I simply don't have time to do this any more. I need the device to work solid out of the box. If you have the Pixel 4 XL, were you able to follow my instructions and reproduce the issue?
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Didn't make a difference, I got the white point better to how I like but the green tint bug is still there, deciding weather it's a deal breaker or not, it's really annoying
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Didn't make a difference, I got the white point better to how I like but the green tint bug is still there, deciding weather it's a deal breaker or not, it's really annoying
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What settings did you use in color control to get the white point you like?
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Perhaps but those days are behind me. I simply don't have time to do this any more. I need the device to work solid out of the box. If you have the Pixel 4 XL, were you able to follow my instructions and reproduce the issue?
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i agree with not having time, I don't have the time to try to replicate this issue. I use my phone in my bed in the dark all the time, with a dark theme and low brightness and don't have an issue that i've noticed.
Is it just me or the pixel 4XL screen has a bit of greenish-yellowish tint to it with Ambient EQ off? I'm kind of nit-picky so it's been bugging me lately.
It's a consequence of having 90hz at a lower brightness. Unless it's like that even at a higher brightness level?
Yup. I don't know why it's the 90hz cause never had this problem with my 7 pro.
I do find it is calibrated to green even in normal conditions
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Yup. I don't know why it's the 90hz cause never had this problem with my 7 pro.
I do find it is calibrated to green even in normal conditions
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Interesting, since I do see multiple reports about the same problem on the 7pro and 7t regarding green tint.
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Interesting, since I do see multiple reports about the same problem on the 7pro and 7t regarding green tint.
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I've seen 7t but when you look a lot them are not the same and they look more like hardware issues.
I've had the 7 pro since launch and have had the community app, XDA and Reddit which I look at regularly and I've never come across a thread about a green tint because of 90hz
At 100% brightness it looks fine, But if I dim it to 75% or lower, there's a little bit of green tint when you look at it on a white background.
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I've seen 7t but when you look a lot them are not the same and they look more like hardware issues.
I've had the 7 pro since launch and have had the community app, XDA and Reddit which I look at regularly and I've never come across a thread about a green tint because of 90hz
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Can you disable 90hz on the oneplus devices? If you can then maybe it just never occurred to them to try to disable 90hz and see if the issue still persists. It certainly didn't dawn on me until I saw someone else having the issue and they reported disabling 90hz solved the problem.
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Can you disable 90hz on the oneplus devices? If you can then maybe it just never occurred to them to try to disable 90hz and see if the issue still persists. It certainly didn't dawn on me until I saw someone else having the issue and they reported disabling 90hz solved the problem.
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Yeah you can disable it
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Yeah you can disable it
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Have any of the users tried disabling it to see if the issue goes away?
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Have any of the users tried disabling it to see if the issue goes away?
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Not sure. But like I said the issue looks different and more hardware when you see pictures, the sort that have plagued some batches of panels for years
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Have any of the users tried disabling it to see if the issue goes away?
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I tried disabling 90Hz. It does not correct the issue of the green hue. It is not as bad, but it is still there. What disabling 90Hz eliminates (mostly) is the red-shift that occasionally occurs.
It's doing my head in now. My screen has a green hue, really bad on Grey's, worse the dimmer it is. I can turn my screen off and on and instead of a green hue it's purple and super contrasty instead. Going to try a replacement but I'm not expecting it to be much difference as seeing same problems from other users.
The black crush in lower brightness seems to be worse than the op 7 pro too
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It's doing my head in now. My screen has a green hue, really bad on Grey's, worse the dimmer it is. I can turn my screen off and on and instead of a green hue it's purple and super contrasty instead. Going to try a replacement but I'm not expecting it to be much difference as seeing same problems from other users.
The black crush in lower brightness seems to be worse than the op 7 pro too
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Don't waste your time with a replacement i did and it's the same, Google have calibrated it like this deliberately do a search on Google. Will wait for the 5 unless they've sold even less pixels this year than last year in which case we may not a see a pixel again while that current development team is in place.
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Don't waste your time with a replacement i did and it's the same, Google have calibrated it like this deliberately do a search on Google. Will wait for the 5 unless they've sold even less pixels this year than last year in which case we may not a see a pixel again while that current development team is in place.
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Yeah they calibrated it to be warmer but not bugged Grey's etc lol
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Yeah they calibrated it to be warmer but not bugged Grey's etc lol
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I didn't even get the chance to try that i was so miffed with the yellow lol
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I tried disabling 90Hz. It does not correct the issue of the green hue. It is not as bad, but it is still there. What disabling 90Hz eliminates (mostly) is the red-shift that occasionally occurs.
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Did you also turn smooth display off as well? Since as of the Nov update it kicks into 90hz at lower brightness levels now.
Pixel 4xl has very warm display. Staying next to my note 9 looks bad. Basically no whites unless 90 plus brightness.
zetsumeikuro said:
Did you also turn smooth display off as well? Since as of the Nov update it kicks into 90hz at lower brightness levels now.
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Yes, I did. There would not be much point in doing half a test. I’m very thorough with stuff
Hi guys I have a pixel 4 whose display shows some green spots while displaying blacks. Do you think it's burn in or it rather be the green tint that everybody talks about? Thank you very much, I don't know if I have to do a replacement or not ?
ps. if you zoom in the right corner you can see these green spots
Bondouael said:
Hi guys I have a pixel 4 whose display shows some green spots while displaying blacks. Do you think it's burn in or it rather be the green tint that everybody talks about? Thank you very much, I don't know if I have to do a replacement or not ?
ps. if you zoom in the right corner you can see these green spots
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Looks like you have some stuck pixels there in this case the green sub pixel is stuck. Could try to run a stuck pixel fixer and let it run for awhile. But honestly ,it looks like you have so many that a miracle would be required. I would just contact support and have them RMA.
Anyone else think the colours are a bit "off"? Everything seems a bit beige.
Anyone else think the colours are a bit "off"?
Everything seems a bit beige on my Pixel 5 compared to my Pixel 3. Whites are not brilliant white.
It's like the night light feature is on constantly at a very low level - anyone else finding this?
I thought this too when receiving the phone but not sure it's an issue. I quickly got used to that and I usethe "natural" color profile. I think it was just that my previous phone (huawei) was just a bit too saturated and my eyes quickly got used to it. But yeah white seemed a bit off for me the first time, especially at low brightness level.
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Anyone else think the colours are a bit "off"?
Everything seems a bit beige on my Pixel 5 compared to my Pixel 3. Whites are not brilliant white.
It's like the night light feature is on constantly at a very low level - anyone else finding this?
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My colours are well washed out on mine got it on boosted makes no different
Yeah on my pixel 3 the natural, boosted and adaptive all seemed pretty different - on the pixel 5 I struggle to see the difference. Adaptive looks best though.
Dude! Thanks!! I really love the P5 but the colours... My whole screen looks dusty and brownish.
The contrast of the P3 is so superior I almost want to change back to the P3 again.
Does anyone have a device with a nice contrasty display?
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Yeah on my pixel 3 the natural, boosted and adaptive all seemed pretty different - on the pixel 5 I struggle to see the difference. Adaptive looks best though.
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Same with me: I come from a Pixel 2 XL which I configured for saturated mode. Obviously, it had ridiculously exaggerated colors. I too noticed the brownish touch but it look quite pleasing and natural. Although switching color modes does not make much if a difference. But yes, adaptive looks most punchy, therefore I stick with it.
Also, is there are way to turn the night light feature off permanently? I thought there was a was to do this on the pixel 3. On the pixel 5 I only see the option to turn it "off until sunset"
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Also, is there are way to turn the night light feature off permanently?
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options, nightlight, no shedule
hanni2301 said:
options, nightlight, no shedule
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Cheers. Missed that
Options --> Display --> Nightlight --> no schedule.
It's turned off for me.
But to be honest it feels as if it is still on...
I really begin to hate the display, as I thought the times of ****ty yellowish/beigeish displays is over!
And because of the colortone it even seems to be less contrasty that my P3....
I'm gonna try to do some pictures when there's some spare time in my life.
It feels like it's still on a tiny bit doesn't it. Hopefully it was a design decision by Google to make the screen more "natural" and it's not a limitation of the panel. Then they can fix it with an update.
That's true!
But the question is: is google aware of this??
It seems that just a very few people report this.
And where do I report this directly to google?
ah nice to read that. compared to my s20 ultra the screen looks incredibly awful....
I do not know what happened: Yesterday the brownish tint was clearly visible but it seems gone today. Was it a reboot? Was it the downgrade from Play Services Beta to the latest stable? I do not now. Seems to be a software issue because it is (temporarily?) gone. My best guess would be a non-working color management calibration. And if so: Software can be fixed!
I really wish you're right!
Are you sure you're not just getting used to it?
A reboot hasn't changed anything for me and I also never used the Google service beta (which I'm thinking about joining now )
sille said:
ah nice to read that. compared to my s20 ultra the screen looks incredibly awful....
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Define awful?
What's to say the S20 Ultra isn't the one that's bad? Samsung always oversaturate, even in their natural profile.