Clarity/resolution - LG V20 Real Life Review

The LG V20 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

i hate the image retention, my sony z3c, samsung note 4/edge not having the same issue.

Ghosting
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It's past 1 year mark.
The screen ghosting issue is so prominent that it's annoying.
This is well known in the.forum's but it's not something that lg is talking about.
I'm going to have to find out if there is a recall or can get this fixed.
Truly disappointed.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/lg-v20-screen-burn-fixed-t3661631
Tl;dr:
Rooted: KCAL
Unrooted: SFilter/Night Screen in Google Play Store

I think Lg v20 display has a Good Pixel per inch ratio so that We can't see any dot with naked eye but thw color production is Soo Bad .....
I mean if we compare with Samsun display... They Are far better then This

maxi65 said:
I think Lg v20 display has a Good Pixel per inch ratio so that We can't see any dot with naked eye but thw color production is Soo Bad .....
I mean if we compare with Samsun display... They Are far better then This
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The color reproduction on the LG panels is actually *really* good. Samsung cranks the vibrancy and saturation up on their displays because it is pleasing to most people's eyes. If anything, Samsungs color reproduction is vastly inferior with default settings. Both class of panels can be calibrated to be more correct though.
The other thing is that LGs colors are "cooler" and Samsung *always* biases towards warmer displays.

helf said:
The color reproduction on the LG panels is actually *really* good. Samsung cranks the vibrancy and saturation up on their displays because it is pleasing to most people's eyes. If anything, Samsungs color reproduction is vastly inferior with default settings. Both class of panels can be calibrated to be more correct though.
The other thing is that LGs colors are "cooler" and Samsung *always* biases towards warmer displays.
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As we all knows people want Color vibrancy which Samsung is delivering actually.
I've tried to calibrate my display many time but even LG's display can't compete with Samsung's 2013 flagships display.

maxi65 said:
As we all knows people want Color vibrancy which Samsung is delivering actually.
I've tried to calibrate my display many time but even LG's display can't compete with Samsung's 2013 flagships display.
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In what ways? And don't forget you are comparing an IPS-LCD to SAMOLED+ which will have vastly better blacks. LCDs can't yet compete on the contrast of an OLED.
I don't care what people want. They jump from one has to another and sacrifice utility for form at the drop of a hat.
I'll keep my color correct LCD that won't suffer from actual burn in
(My retention is all but nonexistent and that isn't permanent regardless)

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In what ways? And don't forget you are comparing an IPS-LCD to SAMOLED+ which will have vastly better blacks. LCDs can't yet compete on the contrast of an OLED.
I don't care what people want. They jump from one has to another and sacrifice utility for form at the drop of a hat.
I'll keep my color correct LCD that won't suffer from actual burn in
(My retention is all but nonexistent and that isn't permanent regardless)
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Whatever it is.... There is no comparison between Ips LCD and SuperAmoled display .
By the way your retention problem can simply be fixed if you're rooted

maxi65 said:
Whatever it is.... There is no comparison between Ips LCD and SuperAmoled display .
By the way your retention problem can simply be fixed if you're rooted
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Oh I know. I run custom kcal settings

maxi65 said:
As we all knows people want Color vibrancy which Samsung is delivering actually.
I've tried to calibrate my display many time but even LG's display can't compete with Samsung's 2013 flagships display.
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You can try using the built-in Comfort View to make the display warmer. I set mine to high and it looks really close to my Galaxy Note 4, using the Basic display color option.

phamanhvu01 said:
You can try using the built-in Comfort View to make the display warmer. I set mine to high and it looks really close to my Galaxy Note 4, using the Basic display color option.
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Low,mid,high?

maxi65 said:
Low,mid,high?
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Yup that one. I use high on mine. Here's a comparison to my Note 4 with the basic color mode. The Note 4 is warmer here, but I'd say that it's pretty close. And a heck lot better than stock.

phamanhvu01 said:
Yup that one. I use high on mine. Here's a comparison to my Note 4 with the basic color mode. The Note 4 is warmer here, but I'd say that it's pretty close. And a heck lot better than stock.
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There is much difference between these two

maxi65 said:
There is much difference between these two
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Well...okay for you then.

Image retention
Have you experienced that? Annoying...

fanasty said:
Have you experienced that? Annoying...
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Here is the working fix of image retention for your rooted fone
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/lg-v20-screen-burn-fixed-t3661631

maxi65 said:
Here is the working fix of image retention for your rooted fone
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/lg-v20-screen-burn-fixed-t3661631
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Thanks for the tips. but I d rather not root it for security concerns.

Screen Ghosting
XDA_RealLifeReview said:
The LG V20 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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Its terrible, Is this a known issue I want a new phone.

fanasty said:
Thanks for the tips. but I d rather not root it for security concerns.
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Visit the thread I've Posted previously in my Reply.
There are some users who have reported a working method for non rooted devices
Peace

Related

[Q] SGNote unnatural colors?

Since I can't see an SGNote in a store yet, curious if the SAMOLED's less than natural colors ever bothers you, they seem to bother me on the lower resolution SAMOLED phones but a bit less on the same res but lower pixel density Tab 10.1 screen (however I prefer Transformer's IPS for a tablet)? -Thx
P.S. - I've heard mention in video reviews that the SGNote does have better color calibration than its other SAMOLED's handhelds.
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=41813
"Blacks are extremely deep and colors are richer than life, which is typical of Samsung's Super AMOLED display technology. For this high end phone, Samsung spent some time calibrating and tweaking it, and the blue color cast found on other Galaxy phones is at a minimum, and pure black images are pure black with no banding or light patches."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es7orfYUc3w#t=03m57s
There are three color settings that are select able by the user. They go from very saturated to about normal.
dennishhh said:
There are three color settings that are select able by the user. They go from very saturated to about normal.
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I didn't know that, cool, I'll look into that, if anyone uploads a YouTube video I'd like to see if that shows up..-Thx
same as computer monitor
i was shocked at how different the colors where when i got my capitvate. unnatural is the only way to put it. took me a long time to get use to the pumped up color amoled screen. (certain colors are increased because that is ones your eyes see easier making the screen pop) so when i was thinking of buying the note i had read that samsung gave the owner the choice to change that pumped up look to a more natural scheme i was thrilled. the lower saturation of color feels more closely to regular lcds. when i hold the phone next to my high end computer monitor with the same picture they are very similar in hue and saturation. although sometimes when i am showing off the big screen phone to friends i switch to the standard amoled setting (because the colors pop) i usually choose the lcd type setting for everyday use. hope this helps.
bedspringlex said:
i was shocked at how different the colors where when i got my capitvate. unnatural is the only way to put it. took me a long time to get use to the pumped up color amoled screen. (certain colors are increased because that is ones your eyes see easier making the screen pop) so when i was thinking of buying the note i had read that samsung gave the owner the choice to change that pumped up look to a more natural scheme i was thrilled. the lower saturation of color feels more closely to regular lcds. when i hold the phone next to my high end computer monitor with the same picture they are very similar in hue and saturation. although sometimes when i am showing off the big screen phone to friends i switch to the standard amoled setting (because the colors pop) i usually choose the lcd type setting for everyday use. hope this helps.
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It does help, thanks, how is that color setting changed?
P.S. - Even on my newer Samsung TVs, when someone with blue eyes comes on the screen they can look fluorescent fake giving it a sci-fi vibe that can look ridiculous!
SMARTPHONEPC said:
I didn't know that, cool, I'll look into that, if anyone uploads a YouTube video I'd like to see if that shows up..-Thx
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Zedomax did it http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RsmDvvckt6k#t=1096s but ideally still would like to see it in person. The higher res screen must help as the colors are not bothering me like they do on lower res SAMOLED screens. I'll check out the 720p SGNexus in person even though I don't think it has the SGNote 3 color settings ("Dynamic, Standard, Movie" in Settings->Display-Screen Mode) that provide more user control.
Still would also like to see the SGNote with other launchers+cool live wallpaper as I'm no fan of the stock TouchWiz look..it shouldn't be too difficult to make it look cooler than stock right?

One X+ VS Nexus 4 - Display Comparison

hi guys
my friend gave me his Ox+ for a while in order to flashing a custom rom.. so.. i struck when the iron was hot
here is my comparison.. just have to say something.. maybe these pictures don't show the reality.. in this topic i'm
trying to make a fair comparison and tell the truth which i saw on my eyes
one other thing.. sorry for my not so good English :cyclops:
both of these devices use LCD technology (IPS HD+ for nexy and super clear LCD on Ox+)
regarding to GsmArena test Nexus has a much brighter display (608 vs 420) but i must say it's not sensible..
and Ox+ provide more contrast (1521 vs 1320) .. well i must say Nexus had more contrast on my eyes and it was sensible!!!!
here is some pics:
right/up is nexus... left/down is Ox+
1st pic; a nature
both of them are damn good!! very sharp displays.. excellent color reproduction, contrast and etc..
i think Ox+ provide a warmer colors.. and nexus had more contrast on my eyes
both of them are pretty close in this pic
2nd: red flower
again.. both of them are verrry good.. but again i must say nexus has more contrast and ox has warmer display
look at the left corner.. white is damn good on nexus but seems yellowish on OX+
3rd : jelly bean..!!
i must say nexus is the obvious winner in this pic.. better contrast.. excellent white and richer color..
4th : pure white
no explanation..! n4 definitely wins here..it provide best white i've ever seen on any device..!!
5th : pure black comparison:
sorry.. i didn't have a good camera to show the real differences.. but i mus say ox+ had better blacks.. although
maybe it's because of brighter display on n4.. but on full brightness i must say ox+ wins
6th: viewing angle
again sorry fir no pic 'cause of camera..
both phones had verry good horizontal and vertical viewing angles.. ox+ was a little darker..
but if view them from the corners ox+ wins..! no changing color and contrast.. very good.. i must give win to One x
let me know if you like it.. :good:
i can make a camera comparison if you want :fingers-crossed:
i must say that i used FauxClock for screen calibration.. it's not fraud..
custom rom/kernel/mod is part of a nexus device
any comment?
Dark Fear said:
any comment?
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Good Comparison what else can be commented
I also noticed that the colors on the One X are more yellowish. Good comparison!
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Nice. Care to share your screen settings?
Aye, what kernel or any settings were you using?
Nice comparison, and I guess it may surprise a few people!
shockem said:
Nice. Care to share your screen settings?
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meangreenie said:
Aye, what kernel or any settings were you using?
Nice comparison, and I guess it may surprise a few people!
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sure :fingers-crossed:
FauxClock app, Obsanity Amoled profile (+5(*3) to 2nd gama setting), Matr1x kernel, LiquidSmooth rom
Screen of Nexus 4 was calibrated according to your taste.So does it effect the outcome of Picture quality?
If yes then is this a fair comparison
My friend has a regular One X, and its display is far more rich, bright and responsive (probably the best touchscreen I tried) than the one in the Nexus 4. You can clearly see the differences under direct sunlight.
Sak3ater said:
Screen of Nexus 4 was calibrated according to your taste.So does it effect the outcome of Picture quality?
If yes then is this a fair comparison
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yeah.. i calibrated N4 color.. but as i said, "modding, custom rom/kernel" is part of a Nexus device.. so.. i think it's definitely fair comparison..!
Fatherboard said:
My friend has a regular One X, and its display is far more rich, bright and responsive (probably the best touchscreen I tried) than the one in the Nexus 4. You can clearly see the differences under direct sunlight.
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calibrate your screen and go to fight
Calibration won't improve the touch behavior.
Tapatalked
Fatherboard said:
Calibration won't improve the touch behavior.
Tapatalked
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I'm a previous htc one x owner. Let me tell you, the touchscreen was no better than what i experience in the N4. If anything it was less sensitive. I remember actually holding my thumb down to that ****ing piece of **** you call a screen on the one x hoping for it to react. Regardless, if anything, the N4 is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better on the screen side since 4.3.
I actually hated the ONE x so much that i decided to drop it a second time to shatter the display once and for all after i had already mistakenly dropped it. Piece of ****.
**** that thing. Worst device ever
Drains battery like i drain my **** down the toilet when i have instant diarrhea pills shoved down my throat.
U used wrong calibration, use iphone 5 calibration with franco kernel

Color saturation & accuracy

If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the LG Nexus 5X's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
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Colors are a bit dull
Colours pop more more than the N5 and they seem fairly accurate.
Fairly accurate but a bit warm. Some people might like it though, I prefer a sharp white but it's good on the eye anyway.
Good color representation and enough color punch
I am satisfied with the color saturation and accuracy. I wouldn't want the color to be more saturated compared to amoled screen. The screen on my 5X is relaxing, there is no pressure/strain to the eyes(auto brightness is on) it just feels right!
According to Anandtech the colors and white point are spot on as far accuracy goes...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9742/the-google-nexus-5x-review/2
Years of over saturated colors and much too blue white points have conditioned us to think that displays should look like that
Colors seem accurate, EXCEPT for when viewing videos. Colors seem extremely muted when in a video, for instance in youtube, you might see a screenshot of a video when choosing what video to watch, but if you click it and get to the same scene, the colors will be muted in video.
CrushD said:
Colors seem accurate, EXCEPT for when viewing videos. Colors seem extremely muted when in a video, for instance in youtube, you might see a screenshot of a video when choosing what video to watch, but if you click it and get to the same scene, the colors will be muted in video.
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I'm seeing similar behaviour. Gamma looks out of whack in youtube. Blacks are totally washed out. Everything looks overexposed. Not sure if it's a software/driver issue. The display looks great otherwise. Need to try out some other video apps (kodi, mxplayer etc.) to confirm.
Edit: It is indeed a software issue. It's the difference between 16-235 vs 0-255. See this thread for more details https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3r9ftg/defective_6p_screen_vs_normal/
Also: https://productforums.google.com/fo...J0aLRo/YIFmN5jXAQAJ;context-place=forum/nexus
The youtube test fails on my n5x, but not on my n5
I'm pretty happy with it. Improved compared to the Nexus 5(which was good too). Some owners have reported a very warm/yellowish screen but luckily I'm not having that issue. I rated it a 4/5 for saturation and accuracy which is as good as possible for a LCD.
EDIT: So I just did a side by side comparison between my Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X. Side by side the Nexus 5X is noticeably warmer but it's not overly warm and honestly, coming from someone who prefers displays on the cooler side because they look more life like, I actually would give the slight edge to the Nexus 5X. But like I said that is only side by side. With each phone on its own I can't really tell either one being too warm or too cool. As far as saturation goes the Nexus 5X is better. The colors on the Nexus 5 were noticeably more washed out compared to the Nexus 5X(although not that bad). I really see it in the red of the Chrome icon, the green of the Hangouts icon and the blue of the Facebook icon. It's still not AMOLED colors but closer than the Nexus 5.
fink.nottle said:
I'm seeing similar behaviour. Gamma looks out of whack in youtube. Blacks are totally washed out. Everything looks overexposed. Not sure if it's a software/driver issue. The display looks great otherwise. Need to try out some other video apps (kodi, mxplayer etc.) to confirm.
Edit: It is indeed a software issue. It's the difference between 16-235 vs 0-255. See this thread for more details https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3r9ftg/defective_6p_screen_vs_normal/
Also: https://productforums.google.com/fo...J0aLRo/YIFmN5jXAQAJ;context-place=forum/nexus
The youtube test fails on my n5x, but not on my n5
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Does anyone know if any of the custom ROMs fix this issue? I don't see it mentioned as a feature in any of the first posts of the ROMs posted in this forum...
CrushD said:
Does anyone know if any of the custom ROMs fix this issue? I don't see it mentioned as a feature in any of the first posts of the ROMs posted in this forum...
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No, but this is a kernel bug. Someone identified the commit in the reddit thread. So you wouldn't even need an entire ROM for a fix. A kernel fix should do it. I don't have enough posts to post in the kernel forums, but you should post in the elementalx kernel thread. The dev seems to be active in developing kernels for all the nexus phones.
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EDIT: So I just did a side by side comparison between my Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X. Side by side the Nexus 5X is noticeably warmer but it's not overly warm and honestly, coming from someone who prefers displays on the cooler side because they look more life like, I actually would give the slight edge to the Nexus 5X..
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Nexus 5 has a white point of just over 7000k, the 5X is almost bang on 6500k.
Like many have said, we are just used to seeing "cooler" colours in our phones. Nexus 5X is really accurate as far as colours go.
James1o1o said:
Nexus 5 has a white point of just over 7000k, the 5X is almost bang on 6500k.
Like many have said, we are just used to seeing "cooler" colours in our phones. Nexus 5X is really accurate as far as colours go.
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That is true though some 5x are arriving with extreme yellow tints which make them look like 5000k or even warmer. Anyone who gets one of these would be 100% correct in saying the device is too yellow, unfortunately since most people are so used to cold blue screens they might not even be able to tell which they received as compared to their old device even a proper 5x panel will probably look warm.
For example this was a replacement 5x device I received on the right which went straight back to Google.
http://imgur.com/a/FyT9e
CrushD said:
Does anyone know if any of the custom ROMs fix this issue? I don't see it mentioned as a feature in any of the first posts of the ROMs posted in this forum...
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Im fairly certain its addressed by kernels not roms... Personally i use Flar2's elemental kernel and have since the Original N5. With his app (which im happy to support) you have full colour controls including gamma. Which you can flash over stock or custom rom depending on your preference his kernel is in the Original Development section.
Nice colours
My last phone (lg g2) was ruining my eyes. Too cool blue with strong contrast. Overtime a screen with false colors and contrast can ruin your vision - making the real world seem dull.
The Nexus 5X is correct and easier on the eyes.
Well, it seems to me that default color is pumped, like vivid, almost neonic a bit and warm. Which is good I guess for the phone. Im not planning to do any color balancing and adjustments on my phone, I would use the PC for that kind of work of course.
Unbelievable nice!

Color saturation & accuracy

If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the LG V10's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
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Mine is generally not too bluish as other display floor models even under daylight (5000-6500 Kelvin).
Color is just right.
The screen is perfect, just have mine set up like this for a little bit of more contrast.
SpartanVissepo said:
The screen is perfect, just have mine set up like this for a little bit of more contrast.
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I just bought this phone Saturday and I love the whole big screen and 2nd screen but one question is making me doubtful about it. the images are so pixel or some what very contrast that it makes it look very contrast and some kind of blurriness not sharp. Can you help me with this.
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The screen is perfect, just have mine set up like this for a little bit of more contrast.
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i can't find that setting? where is it ?
thanks
I'm pretty happy with the colors so far not over saturated
ph3nom said:
i can't find that setting? where is it ?
thanks
I'm pretty happy with the colors so far not over saturated
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Search for "screen color adjustment" in settings.
I like how natural the images are, they're not over saturated ... they appear sharp and natural.
Go to google playstore download display calibration its an excellent app it akes a huge difference at any brightness level also download v10 hidden settings another great app no root required for either v10 is an awesome device had mine just under a year no equal in the camera dept. And just as quick to load apps games etc as my wifes s7
SpartanVissepo said:
The screen is perfect, just have mine set up like this for a little bit of more contrast.
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I have mine OFF and it is perfect :good:

Display Uniformity Problem

I didn't expect 1000€ device still has this issue.
If you want to test it on your note 9 download this image: https://i.imgur.com/DUEKJzH.jpg
It is dark solid grey background.
In dark room open this image and set brightness to low. You should see uniform gray color.
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
Here is what I see:
https://imgur.com/a/efvMZXE
https://imgur.com/a/uJPa8jE
Feel free to enlighten me but unless you spend all your time looking at a dark solid grey background, I don't see why this is an issue. I have tested mine with a similar image and to my eyes, the screen is perfect.
Your link to the image is dead btw.
willhemmens said:
Feel free to enlighten me but unless you spend all your time looking at a dark solid grey background, I don't see why this is an issue. I have tested mine with a similar image and to my eyes, the screen is perfect.
Your link to the image is dead btw.
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Many apps has dark gray background. First I didn't test anything I just noticed it in youtube app - dark mode. Its quite disappointing.
I tried all three links on another pc and they are working.
KastrO_on said:
Many apps has dark gray background. First I didn't test anything I just noticed it in youtube app - dark mode. Its quite disappointing.
I tried all three links on another pc and they are working.
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While they do have a dark grey background, there is usually something in front of the background to draw your eye to instead.
Thanks for letting me know about the links, it's amazing how editing your post, fixing the links and saving the post makes the links work. I did check the links and all I see is noise.
willhemmens said:
While they do have a dark grey background, there is usually something in front of the background to draw your eye to instead.
Thanks for letting me know about the links, it's amazing how editing your post, fixing the links and saving the post makes the links work. I did check the links and all I see is noise.
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Not every time background is covered by content. I can clearly see difference on youtube app, top part of display is slightly lighter and greenish and bottom is darker and reddish.
I did nothing to the links. I just tried to add pictures (insert image) but it didn't work.
seems my note 9 does not have the issue u reported
see the pic u posted as screenshot from my note 9
No issue here.
KastrO_on said:
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
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I think you think wrong. From which orifice did you pluck that 90% figure from?
HellDiverUK said:
I think you think wrong. From which orifice did you pluck that 90% figure from?
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Thats how mass production works. Or do you think im the only one who got exclusive defective device?
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Thats how mass production works. Or do you think im the only one who got exclusive defective device?
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Actually, mass production usually aims for less than 1% failure rate, so I'm pretty confident you got one of those >1%.
Considering YOU are the only one complaining, then yes, you're probably one unlucky person.
If you were talking about a Google Pixel 2/3, then yes, you're likely to have a **** screen, because that's how they are. Samsung screens aren't like that at all - the Note 9 has one of, if not THE best screen available on any phone.
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Actually, mass production usually aims for less than 1% failure rate, so I'm pretty confident you got one of those >1%.
Considering YOU are the only one complaining, then yes, you're probably one unlucky person.
If you were talking about a Google Pixel 2/3, then yes, you're likely to have a **** screen, because that's how they are. Samsung screens aren't like that at all - the Note 9 has one of, if not THE best screen available on any phone.
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Thats why Im disappointed. Didnt expect this from Samsung.
Im going to try another piece so we will see.
KastrO_on said:
I didn't expect 1000€ device still has this issue.
If you want to test it on your note 9 download this image: https://i.imgur.com/DUEKJzH.jpg
It is dark solid grey background.
In dark room open this image and set brightness to low. You should see uniform gray color.
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
Here is what I see:
https://imgur.com/a/efvMZXE
https://imgur.com/a/uJPa8jE
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I am pretty sure they will agree to change it + the chances to draw again a problematic display are really slim. Sadly some do have such a problem and actually I saw a lot worse on the xda forums. Return it for exchange is my advice.
Look in my thread history. I made threads about Samsung display uniformity issues since Note3!
It got better over the years, but still I estimate only 10-30% of all Amoled screens are perfect.
Samsung makes things right in terms of quality management, because most customers do not notice this flaw, but if you are sensible to it, it's hard to ignore!
in my threads I also explained the reason for this, which is how amoled screens are produced. they are cut out of wafers after lithography. only devices cut out of the center of the wafer have almost uniform screens. the more from a side your screen has been cut out, the worse the screen quality will be.
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TML1504 said:
Look in my thread history. I made threads about Samsung display uniformity issues since Note3!
It got better over the years, but still I estimate only 10-30% of all Amoled screens are perfect.
Samsung makes things right in terms of quality management, because most customers do not notice this flaw, but if you are sensible to it, it's hard to ignore!
in my threads I also explained the reason for this, which is how amoled screens are produced. they are cut out of wafers after lithography. only devices cut out of the center of the wafer have almost uniform screens. the more from a side your screen has been cut out, the worse the screen quality will be.
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I think it has improved a lot since a couple of years. Before that, I used to swap my Samsung phones once or twice to get a decent one.
But the last 4 or 5 phones I bought, all with Samsung screens, were all perfect.
That includes Pixel 2 (not XL), Note 9, S8+, P20 Pro, etc....
Either I got extremely lucky to get as many perfect screens in a row, or they really improved things. Now I think it will happen to me again to have a bad one, but I'm not as nervous anymore. It's not a lottery anymore.
My Note 9 in particular is extremely impressive with a perfect screen. Perfect whites, no uniformity problem with any shades of grey at any brightness. Pure oled bliss.
BUT, I've had so many problems before that I'll ALWAYS be a little nervous before unboxing an oled screen smartphone. I've been burned too many times with crappy panels.
Let me tell you I was extremely nervous the day I bought my LG Oled 4K TV 55"..... Thousands of dollars thrown at an Oled panel lottery.... I was lucky this time again
Times are changing.
Okay so I got another note 9 and has this issue too but in different spot. Also checked one more piece in samsung store...same.
So I think almost everyone has this uneven screen but maybe some of you have less sensitive eyes or just don't want to see this problem
KastrO_on said:
Okay so I got another note 9 and has this issue too but in different spot. Also checked one more piece in samsung store...same.
So I think almost everyone has this uneven screen but maybe some of you have less sensitive eyes or just don't want to see this problem
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So my question is, does this affect your use of the device? Is it causing wear and tear on you vision? Or is it just an OCD/OCPD effect?
To me personally, stuff like this is pointless to have an issue with even on a phone that costs $1000. Unless it's to the point where you can't use the device because you see the defect on everything.
To another comment I saw that included the word "Perfect," NOTHING is perfect, and there will never be such a thing that could be perfect because of our human definition of what perfection is. It's good to strive for Better, but it's pointless to strive for Perfection.
Btw, I did download the Pic and tested it on my Note 9 and my wife's Note 8, and the uniformity is affected on both devices. I also looked at the image on my 4K TVs and my LCD monitors and the effect is there. Are you sure the image itself is uniform?
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So my question is, does this affect your use of the device? Is it causing wear and tear on you vision? Or is it just an OCD/OCPD effect?
To me personally, stuff like this is pointless to have an issue with even on a phone that costs $1000. Unless it's to the point where you can't use the device because you see the defect on everything.
To another comment I saw that included the word "Perfect," NOTHING is perfect, and there will never be such a thing that could be perfect because of our human definition of what perfection is. It's good to strive for Better, but it's pointless to strive for Perfection.
Btw, I did download the Pic and tested it on my Note 9 and my wife's Note 8, and the uniformity is affected on both devices. I also looked at the image on my 4K TVs and my LCD monitors and the effect is there. Are you sure the image itself is uniform?
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Perfect screens exist. I have some. I have perfect eyesight. I was a combat helicopter pilot in the french army. I know what to look for. If it is there I see it. If it is not, I don't. It's a fact. It's science. Not some voodoo magic wishful thinking.
I've had terrible screens. I've had some perfect. Nowadays I get more good ones than bad.
Bad ones still exist, but it my opinion that they are less and less common.
Against clear backgrounds you won't see much apart from a slight shift in color temperature.
Against dark grey at indoor brightness you can have incredible differences between some parts of the screen.
If you use a dark theme (not black), you will see it all the time.
Does it prevents you from using the phone ? No of course not.
Does it suck on a 1000 dollars phone ? Yes.
Some people are insensitive to that kind of thing. Good for them.
It's not an OCD. It's the will to have a good looking screen.
I like good looking women. I don't think it's an OCD. I know what I want, that's all. And I want the best. Nothing less.
If you want to settle with average, good for you.
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Perfect screens exist. I have some. I have perfect eyesight. I was a combat helicopter pilot in the french army. I know what to look for. If it is there I see it. If it is not, I don't. It's a fact. It's science. Not some voodoo magic wishful thinking.
I've had terrible screens. I've had some perfect. Nowadays I get more good ones than bad.
Bad ones still exist, but it my opinion that they are less and less common.
Against clear backgrounds you won't see much apart from a slight shift in color temperature.
Against dark grey at indoor brightness you can have incredible differences between some parts of the screen.
If you use a dark theme (not black), you will see it all the time.
Does it prevents you from using the phone ? No of course not.
Does it suck on a 1000 dollars phone ? Yes.
Some people are insensitive to that kind of thing. Good for them.
It's not an OCD. It's the will to have a good looking screen.
I like good looking women. I don't think it's an OCD. I know what I want, that's all. And I want the best. Nothing less.
If you want to settle with average, good for you.
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I literally stopped reading at "Perfect eyesight." And then I went back and read your reply...and I still stopped at perfect eyesight. I wish I was as perfect as you man. For real...???
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I literally stopped reading at "Perfect eyesight." And then I went back and read your reply...and I still stopped at perfect eyesight. I wish I was as perfect as you man. For real...??
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You do know that you have to have a perfect eyesight to be a combat pilot, do you ?
Acuity, color, contrast, night vision, side vision, field of view, and much more. Everything is tested BEFORE you're even allowed to go forward in the selection process.
Most people fail those tests. That's sad but that's life.
As a side note, you don't have to have perfect vision to see those screen problems.
They can be very obvious to anybody open minded enough.
Close minded people though, will always be impervious to such matter.
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You do know that you have to have a perfect eyesight to be a combat pilot, do you ?
Acuity, color, contrast, night vision, side vision, field of view, and much more. Everything is tested BEFORE you're even allowed to go forward in the selection process.
Most people fail those tests. That's sad but that's life.
As a side note, you don't have to have perfect vision to see those screen problems.
They can be very obvious to anybody open minded enough.
Close minded people though, will always be impervious to such matter.
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You literally missed the most important part of my original post. That's why I stopped reading your post.
And yes I do know you have to have "Perfect" eyesight to join some military air forces.?
And I hope you aren't calling me closed minded. I never said someone has to have perfect eyesight to see the differences of the pixels in the image.
Anyways, I'm done with this. Quite pointless now.??

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