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Hey everyone,
I just got my fuze a couple months ago, started off with NATFs rom and am now flashing Genesis, but there was one thing that I thought was kinda odd: no one on this site has ever heard of Anki!
http://ichi2.net/anki/
Anki is awesome to learn stuff, but the biggest problem is that there is no WinMo developer. I don't know enough about it, but does anyone have any idea how hard/easy it would be to convert Anki to run on WinMo 6.1/6.5? Any suggestions? I know they have an online solution, but I dont want to pay for data :/
Thanks!
Bommor
Can someone point me in the right direction to start learning to program for Windows mobile? I do have C/Matlab experience, I think I can take a crack at it...
ANki
The biggest problem you will face with WM development is the need for a professional version of visual studios. The express editions don't work for WM development...
Well the "Could" but its not worth the effort really.
Are you a student? you could check out dream spark to get a free copy of visual studio 2008.
If you are a business owner you could look into website spark.
-Paul
Hmm...Yea, I'm a student, so I'll look at it. So WM programs are basically C++?
Good news/bad news
So I know this thread hasn't been touched in a while. I plan on writing a winmo offline client for anki within the next few weeks because I need one for my classes. It will be dirty, crappy, slow, and crappy.....yeah......so if you are in need of a client, as soon as permission comes from the anki people, I will post a beta. Hopefully sooner than later. I am on break now, but my list of things I need to do is very long since I have two lab reports in my Mech.Eng. classes and 3 tests, it will take a while. Ok. Enjoy.
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So I know this thread hasn't been touched in a while. I plan on writing a winmo offline client for anki within the next few weeks because I need one for my classes. It will be dirty, crappy, slow, and crappy.....yeah......so if you are in need of a client, as soon as permission comes from the anki people, I will post a beta. Hopefully sooner than later. I am on break now, but my list of things I need to do is very long since I have two lab reports in my Mech.Eng. classes and 3 tests, it will take a while. Ok. Enjoy.
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I would appreciate if you could release a beta version. I study Japanese so it will come in handy
Hopefully more people could work on it. Maybe even can give you a hand in the future because gonna start study Java programming soon
I already have permission from the Anki creator to make a winmo version based on the same code. For now it will be called WManki. I will start coding at the end of this coming week, so don't expect a beta until about march 13. I never written anything on this scale before, so it will be a long project. After the first beta I will start asking around for help. It will be opensource, but I won't release the source until after the first non beta release. I have a certain way of creating code, and if I let people change things before a full release, it will cause tons of problems. But until then, just be patient. Thanks for showing an interest.
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Hi, can I ask at what stage the programming of WManki is right now? WM support is something that Anki really needs
Thanks
If you're still working on this, I'd just like to say thanks now! I'd love to be able to use Anki on my mobile.
Let me know when it's ready
Let me know when it's ready
I ASK THAT YOU READ ALL THIS BEFORE I GET TO THE FIX, BECAUSE THIS IS A MULTILAYERED TOPIC. I WANT EVERYONE TO READ THIS, NOT JUST DEVS OR SENIORS, BUT ALL THE LURKERS AND MEMBERS WHO'VE NEVER POSTED. I WILL ACCEPT ALL SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS.
THAT MEANS YOU. AND YOU. AND THATS RIGHT...EVEN YOU!
IN THIS POST, I WILL DISCUSS BRIEFLY MY PLANS FOR THE FUTURE OF MY HERO, HOW I WILL BRING MY SUCCESS TO PHONES AROUND THE USA, HOW I WILL JOIN THE LEAUGES OF DAMAGE, AND FLIPZ, AND ESPECIALLY DARCH, WHO WHILE WATCHED FROM A DISTANCE, WHEN THE TIME CAME FOR IT, BROUGHT ME THE ANSWER. AT THE END, I HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION, TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE FIX[EDIT: REALITY; COMING SOON][sooner with your support!]
3 year lurker. xda is the only forum I've taken apart of in the community, and to a small sucess. I've actaully managed to help, learn, and now its time I give back to the community.
I FIRMLY BELIEVE I HAVE THE SKILLS REQUIRED TO BRING SOMETHING NEW TO THE TABLE, AND HAVE ENOUGH TO SPLIT IT BETWEEN EVERY PERSON SITTING AT THAT TABLE. WILL YOU JOIN ME AT THIS TABLE?
If anyone has ever looked at my profile, then you know I've only been a member since March 25th, and have been made a senior in just over a week(not that I'm bragging...). I'm no spammer, all my posts have been legit, and I have actually helped people. I still consider myself a noob, but I do believe I have earned my seniority, and hopefully the support of all the main devs, who have helped me beyond belief, and have responded to any major question I had, especially with what Ive been working on lately.
If you've logged on within the past 2 weeks, and followed my posts at all, then you know that even if I dont know the answer, I offer suggestions, and more importantly support. I distinguish flames, stomp on the trolls, and still manage to bring my ideas to the table, so its time to test and see if I can make these idea's come true.
I cannot do this without your help.
I am now going to quote one the the best devs on this forum, with the fix.
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mountaindont said:
wanna hop over on my trackball fix thread?
im so damn close, i can see the lights!
...get it?
im uploading the directory we gotta mess with now. i just know you can help!!
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I think you're best bet would be to write an app to keep the trackball light forever on instead of trying to rewrite most of the frameworks and deal with all the dependencies to fix the trackball light.
if you really want to go and make the trackball stay always on by rewriting some code, i'd suggest you first look inside the framework jars with baksmali and find any lines which reference to the trackball, and see if you can somehow manipulate it to constantly echo 1 to the trackball led device in /dev to constantly stay on.
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If I'm going to start understanding the Android platform to the degree that Darch and co do, the best place to start would be writing my first application (this will expose me to the framework, the commands, and how to manipulate the OS like never before). Something I've looked into, and have tried a couple things.
-keeping in mind, that in all reality, Sprints final release will give the option to decide light or touch responsive...at least, I hope so...-
I get my laptop back tomaro, and I will be studying the SDK to the T, and with the support of you guys, I will write an app to work on any 2.1 ROM, that will give you the option to keep the trackball light on or let it remain light sensitive[beta, first release] and eventually, options that will blow your mind. Things that handcent might incorporate, so you only have to use this app to pimp out the stock messaging app. Speed of flash. Customize vibration. Haptic feedback when clicking the trackball (links, function buttons, or just sitting on your homescreen, and you get that urge to just enjoy the pleasure of your customized vibration.) [future release, always FREE]
I dont know how long it will take me to learn the SDK enough to set something up from nothing and make this farfetched idea. I was hoping that someone could give me the scource code to a related app; handcent would be amazing, but something like Trackball Alert for the nexus one (its something, not nothing :-\) would be cool too. Or if you have programming skills, please, lets team up, I'm reading tutorials now. If I can complete "Hello Android", I'm sure I can make this happen.
THIS IS THE QUESTION THAT I ASK OF THE ENTIRE XDA COMMUNITY (lurkers, seniors, devs, and members who just want to test and give feed back)
WILL YOU SUPPORT ME?
If I ask a question (dont worry, this thread your reading now has gone through four topic changes to avoid clutter, I'll be sticking with this thread for updates, releases, and changelogs -
I might start one more thread to keep up on bugs-) will you help? Will you subscribe and help my idea come to life, and bring a whole new customization option app. Will the main devs take part, seeing as how this app could very well be included in future releases of their ROMS (I'll talk about my ROM idea's in another update) Will the seniors with a sick attitude be able to put their frustrations and rude answers in their pocket while posting in this thread? Bring positive energy in, with advice and sugestions, and crys of "good luck!"?
If its a team effort, its hardly an effort at all.
the basis of what what we have so far. i know what files need to be edited, this time im sure its [sys/class/leds/button-backlight] in this directory, there are sensor files, a "trigger file"(quite sure this will play a major role) that contains a series of commands that seem to tell the backlights and sensors how and when to act. I'm sure apps like Handcent and Trackball alert mess with the same files (and if not, what do they mess with to make these changes? would installing and taking a look at the permissions be a good place to start?). Anyone know how to get in touch with the devs, or some scource code of an app that affects the trackball? This would be a great start.
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quick rundown of my rom idea's. some of you read my MAJOR INTERNAL MEMORY ISSUE thread, which you all rose magnificently to the occasion, and I couldnt be happier. It was true team work, something I know we can do if we just unite like we did yesterday. You all solved my problem, and have proven to me the members of XDA are capable of anything, especially when united.
the fact is, damages latest leaks are the best platform to build upon, as when the final release surfaces, and we get an official RUU, it will work truely flawlessly. so this is most certainly what we need to base the app off of at first, as its the only one with the closest trackball fix. if darch and flipz n fresh all want to encorporate it into their ROMS, they more than entitled too, as I hope to get help from them in certain areas. my issue with the latest sprint leak: the OS is so big, it leaves you with barely any internal memory, and you pretty much have no choice but to use a2sd. ive never had to use a2sd on my hero, and this is disppointing (damage, this is NOT a shot at you, its a fact, one I plan on helping you adress. im in the middle of working on a cleaner foundation for you to work on). the rom will be fully "sensable" with some tweaks like that of no other. i will build on the foundation you've laid, to create a new foundation for you to build on (once more leaks surface)
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im off for the day, except for occasionaly visits on my Hero, so please feel free to comment. I'm looking for someone to help build this app, so anyone with app programming skills, PM your GTALK and we can chat about idea's. in the meantime, maybe someone knows a open scource app that would allow us to build off?
dear damage, darch, and flipz, please PM me your GTALK if your interested...although I could understand if your too busy with your ROMS, I dont mind taking on the load, as long as I have your support, and can ask for help. i will not cross the line and ask for the RUU's you've been getting damage, but I would love to hear your plans for future releases, whether or not you might be interested in using my app and perhaps help developing it.
c.a.l.i.n.g. a.l.l. d.e.v.s.
It is light sensitive tested by placing finger over the sensor above the sprint logo (upper right) flicked the track ball it comes on. Hopefully that helps beleive me I know how it is when you ask a question or look for help and you get nothing
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It is light sensitive tested by placing finger over the sensor above the sprint logo (upper right) flicked the track ball it comes on. Hopefully that helps beleive me I know how it is when you ask a question or look for help and you get nothing
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a quick search in damages.thread (which i hate doing, his threads fill so fast.and questions get buried, right along with the answer) gave me the same conclusion. but the fact is, i want a constant trackball led, and im sure if people had the option, more people would want it too. most view it as a minimal bug, so dont bother. i guess, for me, the other bugs are so minimal that the trackballs led has become the biggest issue.
could someone please help? i spend alot of time on here helping as much as i can, id really appreciate it if someone with the same desired goal could devote some time to it. id be willing to help in any manner.
im sitting in my basement with all the lights out posting this, just to spend time with my long lost tb led.
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Did you try to turn off the Auto brightness feature for the display to see if this stops the Trackball from not turning on?
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Did you try to turn off the Auto brightness feature for the display to see if this stops the Trackball from not turning on?
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I have auto brightness off and it has no effect on trackball led.....
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I have auto brightness off and it has no effect on trackball led.....
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yes ive been playing with the power control widget since first flash. no joy. thanks for the idea, have anymore?
anyone?
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There's a dude from the uk that builds an app for N1 that brings the ability to choose your own color and rate of the trackball lite. Try to send him an email see if he wants to jump in. The app is called Trackball alert. Its says its only for the N1 though.
Hope you can find a solution.
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There's a dude from the uk that builds an app for N1 that brings the ability to choose your own color and rate of the trackball lite. Try to send him an email see if he wants to jump in. The app is called Trackball alert. Its says its only for the N1 though.
Hope you can find a solution.
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yeah ive seen the app. i will make sure to do that, i hope the brits want to help.
im sure us on xda.could find a solution, however.
i really hope sprint doesnt plan on releasing 2.1 like this. id be sorely disappointed.
Believe me, I understand what it's like to have a feature that's important to me and nobody else seems to care about. We all paid good money for these phones, and continue to pay good money every month for service, so I think that gives us each the right to at least ask about the things that we care about. (Well, unless you're trying to use Sprint VVM instead of GV. That's just plain dumb.....)
As far as the trackball light behavior goes, I think your probably screwed. That's something that will most likely have to be changed in the source code of whatever is controlling it. That seems to me like something that's probably coded in at a very low level of the OS itself. (Well, not the OS, actually. The OS is Linux. But it's probably hardcoded into the Android framework.)
As good a job as the rom devs on xda do, it's not like they're actually creating this software. They're just taking what others have created and packaging it in a way that works on our phones. My guess is that the people who can make the change you're asking for work in HTC's offices...
As far as the different colors, good luck. There's a reason that tweak only works on the N1. It's the only phone that has different colored LEDs back there to light up. You can be the best programmer in the world, but you still can't turn on a red light if the only light available is white......
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Believe me, I understand what it's like to have a feature that's important to me and nobody else seems to care about. We all paid good money for these phones, and continue to pay good money every month for service, so I think that gives us each the right to at least ask about the things that we care about. (Well, unless you're trying to use Sprint VVM instead of GV. That's just plain dumb.....)
As far as the trackball light behavior goes, I think your probably screwed. That's something that will most likely have to be changed in the source code of whatever is controlling it. That seems to me like something that's probably coded in at a very low level of the OS itself. (Well, not the OS, actually. The OS is Linux. But it's probably hardcoded into the Android framework.)
As good a job as the rom devs on xda do, it's not like they're actually creating this software. They're just taking what others have created and packaging it in a way that works on our phones. My guess is that the people who can make the change you're asking for work in HTC's offices...
As far as the different colors, good luck. There's a reason that tweak only works on the N1. It's the only phone that has different colored LEDs back there to light up. You can be the best programmer in the world, but you still can't turn on a red light if the only light available is white......
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i exchanged a pm woth regaw, who is working closely with damage in building and testing the leaks. he seems fairly certain its a matter of messing with an xml file. lets cross our fingers for more information.
anyone have any clue what.xml file defines when and how the tb lights up?
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he seems fairly certain its a matter of messing with an xml file. lets cross our fingers for more information.
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That could be, too. Will be cool if it is. I'm still working on getting a full understanding of the Android framework, but that could be in an xml file now that I think about it.
That said, I stand by my point that these guys aren't exactly writing software from scratch. There comes a point where they can only do so much with the programs that they're repackaging.
Once that point is reached, it's really not fair or realistic to ask them to do much more until the real developers release new software and it gets leaked again.
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That could be, too. Will be cool if it is. I'm still working on getting a full understanding of the Android framework, but that could be in an xml file now that I think about it.
That said, I stand by my point that these guys aren't exactly writing software from scratch. There comes a point where they can only do so much with the programs that they're repackaging.
Once that point is reached, it's really not fair or realistic to ask them to do much more until the real developers release new software and it gets leaked again.
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i comletely understand what you mean, and whole heartidly agree. damage is getting these leaks from someone and simply modifying for beytter performance, and working out the bugs sprint hasnt quite got ironed out yet.
but!
originally, these 2.1 roms were based on the eris and legend leaks, meaning the devs have a sound understanding of taking the given software and rewriting it to work on the sprint network/our hardware
it can be done, a simple edit of an xml file, and if we team up, i see no reason it couldnt be done, and rather easily at that.
i dp regret i have no knowledge in this regard, but i know its a patch alot of peoe would jump on and definatly appreciate. damage and all the rest are artists, maybe its time we give baxk, ya know? i wish i could be more of a help, but for.now, all i can do it bring the devs together in hopes to make a speedy and stable patch.
if any devs are reading this, i just want you to know us here at xda do appreciate your work, and i hope us joes.can give back in someway.
i guess edits dont bump lol
sooo...
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can someone help?
is no one awake?
its fridaaaaay!
im off for the night...any late night noobs or pros wanna take a look, you can easily use root explorer to view and edit the files, hopefully youll have more luck than i have (remember its a xml file!)
sys/class/leds/button-backlight/
gnite
correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think Damaged2.15 even touches those portions of the OS. I think you should be looking in the /system/lib/hw/ folder.
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correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think Damaged2.15 even touches those portions of the OS. I think you should be looking in the /system/lib/hw/ folder.
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okokokok, let me take a look
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I think that there are conflicts within there. most of those files are self explanitory, but what are the gralloc.default.so and gralloc.msm7k.so libs? IIRC the droid guys had keyboard issues and those files were included in the fix, so its possible they affect the lighting in some way. I don't think we can pull those files though, it didn't seem to want to boot after that. I think gralloc also has to do with opengl.
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correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think Damaged2.15 even touches those portions of the OS. I think you should be looking in the /system/lib/hw/ folder.
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dammit, i was just trying to sleep.
i was told the file we need is an xml file, and i dont see any in there. HOWEVER; i do see lights.msm7k.so
and sensors.goldfish.so/sensors.heroc.so
which one should i look at first?
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I think that there are conflicts within there. most of those files are self explanitory, but what are the gralloc.default.so and gralloc.msm7k.so libs? IIRC the droid guys had keyboard issues and those files were included in the fix, so its possible they affect the lighting in some way. I don't think we can pull those files though, it didn't seem to want to boot after that. I think gralloc also has to do with opengl.
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i was wondering what those two were also...no idea
i DO know the file we need to fix is xlm file...should be just a change of a command (or perhaps an addon) but i dont see a single xlm in the entire system/ folder...
suggestions?
Okay, so thanks to some members for helping me find this homescreen replacement. However, I have searched for hours looking for some kind of mod for this thing, and I haven't found a one. Is it not possible to manually tweak settings like color, for instance? I can't believe this UI isn't as hyped as I find it to be.
So, can we get some devs on this to give us some tweaks and start a thread?
I know what you mean. I just d.l.'d it and really like the design/idea of it all. Right now it is very limited to what you can tweak. If you go to thier website and check out the forum over there, alot of people are giving thier ideas of what they would like to see done to this app. Hopefully the dev's are listening....
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I know what you mean. I just d.l.'d it and really like the design/idea of it all. Right now it is very limited to what you can tweak. If you go to thier website and check out the forum over there, alot of people are giving thier ideas of what they would like to see done to this app. Hopefully the dev's are listening....
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Yeah, but I think the requests are falling on deaf ears. Multiple people are saying over in their forums are saying they are simply doing compatibility updates now. I thought some Devs here at XDA could take matters into their own hands. But I just don't think there are enough people interested in it, you know? At the time of this post, 395 views of this thread and only one reply. Supply and demand, we need more people to speak up!
Very true. I'm gonna hang on to the free version for a while and see what happens. Time will tell.
I stick using this for a long time. a bit sad I couldn't "beautify" my home like others do. but in my opinion the standards color scheme are the best there is. and don't you think modding it (like adding a shortcut to one page of widget screen or a dash of power control which I really want as an upgrade) is the same as altering the whole program? is that against licencing problem? I'm quite a noob in this area...
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I stick using this for a long time. a bit sad I couldn't "beautify" my home like others do. but in my opinion the standards color scheme are the best there is. and don't you think modding it (like adding a shortcut to one page of widget screen or a dash of power control which I really want as an upgrade) is the same as altering the whole program? is that against licencing problem? I'm quite a noob in this area...
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I have no idea. It seem's that it would be, but then again, people are porting SENSE over to non-HTC devices as well, so who knows? I don't know if the free version is open source or not.
Well guys, looks like Xposed for 5.0 won't ever happen.
REVISION: This edit was added on 2.13.14
The above statement was purely a joke when Xposed for LP was merely a dream. To clarify, as of now there is no ETA for Xposed. Ever. Don't ask. Stop. Don't think of it. If you ask, you shall be banned as of the words of the moderator.
I know it may be hard to read sometimes, so I started a new paragraph. If you are confused, look up. ETAs don't exist on this developer website. Thank you.
Xposed is IN THE WORKS and no, there is no beta version. If you beg to differ, post a comment. Don't flame me or anybody.
=D have a WONDERFUL, hate free day.
The full comment posted at https://github.com/rovo89/Xposed/issues/18 is:
Thanks guys. Actually, there is no need to worry about alternative approaches. It's not easy to "hack" ART in a similar way as Dalvik, but it's generally working.
What most people forget:
a) ART isn't the only new thing in Lollipop. SELinux requires a lot of extra code and even more thoughts to work around the restrictions. And 64 bit breaks the assumption that everything starts in a single process, as there are two Zygote processes now. I think it's important to consider this right from the start.
b) The actual (net) time required to write code is far away from the time that passes. It's not like I work on Xposed every evening. There are weeks when I don't look at the code at all. Yes, I do have other things in my life, and some have a higher priority. So even if something would take just a few evenings to code, it might take me a couple of weeks to actually do it. And once I publish something, you probably wouldn't like it if I took off for a few weeks.
If it was just about coding, pushing the source could be helpful. But that works best if there's already a clear concept of what is needed and an idea how this can be split up into work packages. Often it takes hours to come up with a concept that can be coded in 20 lines. Remember how many people are using Xposed meanwhile. We don't want to have some quick code that works by accident, so it's vital to think everything through carefully, and that takes time.
So yeah. It will take more time, I still don't give any ETA, but I'm quite confident that we'll have something nice some day.
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No new "work in progress" sources = no help from other contributors. That's it.
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No new "work in progress" sources = no help from other contributors. That's it.
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You can probably count the people who really understand Xposed and how it works at one hand (and you'll basically have to start from scratch for lollipop).
It's not like there were hundreds of contributors in the past, so what you're trying to say here is invalid.
Yes, there would probably be some people who could help out, but keep in mind that every minute rovo is helping others to better understand what's going on isn't available for him to do some actual development (which includes research and drafting ideas).
I'm sure that any top tier dev who feels confident to actually bring xposed for lollipop forward can contact rovo anytime and get his wip code, but so far no one has spoken out.
The sad truth is that 95% of the xda users are people without any real technical knowledge - and the only thing they do is to offer to "test" something to gain access to something before it's release.
Unfortunately those testers are rarely ever needed, at least not within the core development phase, here it takes way more time to explain people what is needed than to just test it yourself.
When you're rolling something out to production and want to make sure that the last little bugs within different usage cases and configurations are squashed, sure you'll need testers, but not before.
But for now that's not the case, so it might be better to keep the unhelpful comments to oneself
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Well guys, looks like Xposed for 5.0 won't ever happen.
(To all you downers out there, its called a joke. Laugh about it. Next thread.)
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Liar
So yeah. It will take more time, I still don't give any ETA, but I'm quite confident that we'll have something nice some day.
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If you can't offer something better then be patient.
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Liar
If you can't offer something better then be patient.
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Just like the op stated.... Its a JOKE
He had 666 Followers and I thought it was funny and would lighten up a few peoples stress filled days. The only reason I saw this was because I was going through his posts and READING all of them to get an update as to where we stand.
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(To all you downers out there, its called a joke. Laugh about it. Next thread.)
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I found it for you ^ since sometimes I know its REALLY hard to understand the concept of a joke.
KevinDixson said:
Just like the op stated.... Its a JOKE
He had 666 Followers and I thought it was funny and would lighten up a few peoples stress filled days. The only reason I saw this was because I was going through his posts and READING all of them to get an update as to where we stand.
I found it for you ^ since sometimes I know its REALLY hard to understand the concept of a joke.
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Yep sorry I misread your post. I feel a little bit stressed with all this story lol
Anyways, 666 is the patience and Rovo the angel
Primokorn said:
Yep sorry I misread your post. I feel a little bit stressed with all this story lol
Anyways, 666 is the patience and Rovo the angel
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Hahaha no worries bro just keepin the haters out of this thread :bruh:
just for waiting...
Hope xposed will be ported to lollipop eventually!!!
Hi guys! Yeah, I'm part of those 95% (I'm a lawyer), but I'm very grateful to rovo for his work. I have Nexus 5, but I'm still on Android 4.4.4 because of Xposed, and I'm not going to update to 5.0 until the new version of Xposed is done. You can see how important it is for me. @rovo89, I'm pretty sure that many people would pay you to complete your work. I understand that you have higher priorities and you are doing all of this for fun, but have you thought that you have almost 3 millions of downloads? If you create your team of software engineers and sell Xposed at 2$ (2€), you work on it every day for several months, and we assume that most of the current users buy your product, you will have enough money to pay your team and dedicate all of your time at what you want. It's just a suggestion of one of these 3 millions of users, that would pay more than 2$ and appreciate your work so much! Best regards from Spain!
rovo has said on multiple occasions that he won't take money for working on Xposed as he does not want it to become a job where he feels obligated to work on it full time.
He's working on it already. Offers of monetary gain won't make that work go any faster. Everyone will just have to be patient.
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We don't know if he is really doing on it (I hope yes but..) since we have no proofs (only claims) and no documentable code progress since August 2014. Plus, rovo89 was active here last year till August or so. Then he left.
If there are people who want work on it and have enough skills to port it, they should fork it and not wait. I saw some guys on github who want to work on ART port.
He flat out stated he would not post progress publicly either on GitHub or here and to wait until he had something worth publishing (that real contributors could help with) without bothering him. Comments on issues on GitHub do show he is/was working on it.
The real problem is that people are impatient and feel entitled to updates on progress, even though rovo explicitly stated that he wouldn't be doing that.
As for others *wanting* to work on it; nobody is stopping them forking the project and doing so. If they get it working then that would be fantastic and I'm sure everyone including rovo would be happy and grateful. That's the great thing about open source.
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1. Work hard to create something really, really useful.
2. Make it (and all the resources for re-creating it) available for free.
3. Millions of people use it.
4. Decide not to work so hard on it.
5. Get hounded day in and day out for months by thousands of people.
This is a classic example of "No good deed goes unpunished".
Rovo is a saint. In his shoes, I would have told all of the "hounders" to f**k off a long time ago.
In other words, people, learn how to be grateful, get off of Rovo's case, and move on.
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This is sad, I would donate to help the dev, especially since all this is free
i'm a user and for me is normally this long time...the system of cache is completaly changed....and see it immediately in the booting process and the loading apps process.
Be patient!
Go On Rovo u can do that =)
I hope you are wrong
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Well guys, looks like Xposed for 5.0 won't ever happen.
(To all you downers out there, its called a joke. Laugh about it. Next thread.)
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It is already 2015 and there is still no support for lollipop. It was working fine with jelly bean. I just installed a custom lollipop rom and I wanted to user xposed with greenify. It seems I have to wait and your saying will just be a conspiracy. You should really stop creating this kind of threads. Value people's creativity. That fact that, there is a delay doors not mean it will not be made. If for anything at all, give them some morale
Lollipop is a completely new system. The difference between KitKat and Lollipop is almost the same as between Windows 95 and Windows XP, if not larger... Lollipop looks like ordinary Android, acts like it, but it is NOT it...
I've got an N920t and i would love to put a simple 1st boot screen and add my company name and number to it so, if it's stolen, the average person won't have a CLUE how to get rid of the logo.
I would also like to be able to change a cool animated GIF into the animation that pops up after the initial boot.
Lastly, i would like a decent shut-down logo.
I've downloaded Samsung's theme editor and it looks like i was created for the "yesterday" phones. I know where the qmg files are in the system/media.
I just don't know 1) The screen dimensions 2) the conversion process of whatever to qmg. 3) whatever else i may have missed.
Can anyone help?
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I've got an N920t and i would love to put a simple 1st boot screen and add my company name and number to it so, if it's stolen, the average person won't have a CLUE how to get rid of the logo.
I would also like to be able to change a cool animated GIF into the animation that pops up after the initial boot.
Lastly, i would like a decent shut-down logo.
I've downloaded Samsung's theme editor and it looks like i was created for the "yesterday" phones. I know where the qmg files are in the system/media.
I just don't know 1) The screen dimensions 2) the conversion process of whatever to qmg. 3) whatever else i may have missed.
Can anyone help?
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Samsung Theme's have nothing to do with what you want to accomplish.. It sounds to me like you don't fully understand what's involved with trying to do what you're asking for.. First of all you'll have to root the phone possibly voiding it's warranty just to get to the files you'd have to replace to begin with and if you don't fully understand what you're trying to do you could possibly turn your phone into a paperweight! You might want to do some research before trying to do what you're asking for..
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Samsung Theme's have nothing to do with what you want to accomplish.. It sounds to me like you don't fully understand what's involved with trying to do what you're asking for.. First of all you'll have to root the phone possibly voiding it's warranty just to get to the files you'd have to replace to begin with and if you don't fully understand what you're trying to do you could possibly turn your phone into a paperweight! You might want to do some research before trying to do what you're asking for..
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Yeah dude, don't over think it. I'm way way way WAY past a simple rooting. I've installed 100s of roms just not messed with themes very much beyond the occasional bootanimation.zip placement.
But, a piece of advice, next time just say "i don't know" because you really didn't answer my question, you were about as far away from what i asked for as an answer could get. I explained that i checked out the Samsung theme editor, not that i expected it to work. It was just a step i went through.
If i didn't know anything about theming, at all, i wouldn't know about the extension or placement area i mentioned and since you didn't really give any answer of note (beyond a generic warning that's been in every root and rom since the beginning of time) i'm thinking you don't either...
Please, don't give your idea of "help" any further.
Kilroy5150 said:
Yeah dude, don't over think it. I'm way way way WAY past a simple rooting. I've installed 100s of roms just not messed with themes very much beyond the occasional bootanimation.zip placement.
But, a piece of advice, next time just say "i don't know" because you really didn't answer my question, you were about as far away from what i asked for as an answer could get. I explained that i checked out the Samsung theme editor, not that i expected it to work. It was just a step i went through.
If i didn't know anything about theming, at all, i wouldn't know about the extension or placement area i mentioned and since you didn't really give any answer of note (beyond a generic warning that's been in every root and rom since the beginning of time) i'm thinking you don't either...
Please, don't give your idea of "help" any further.
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Then maybe you should have thought more about what you were saying in your first post and possibly included some other information about how smart you are but yet you can't figure out what the screen dimensions for the phone are? But I stand by what I said Samsungs Theme's having nothing to do with the boot animation at all.. And if you're so great at flashing roms.. Uh wow "claps" that's taking others work and dropping it on to an SD and tapping flash.. SO so hard!! Try building your own rom and kernel from scratch! Since you wanted to act all tough I'm not even going to give you the answer and yes I damn well do know the answer I've been a developer since way back in the day when WebTVs were the thing! And if this is how you're going to act towards developers of other people on here, then don't expect much help now! I'm sure you can figure it out Mr 100s of rom flashes!
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Then maybe you should have thought more about what you were saying in your first post and possibly included some other information about how smart you are but yet you can't figure out what the screen dimensions for the phone are? But I stand by what I said Samsungs Theme's having nothing to do with the boot animation at all.. And if you're so great at flashing roms.. Uh wow "claps" that's taking others work and dropping it on to an SD and tapping flash.. SO so hard!! Try building your own rom and kernel from scratch! Since you wanted to act all tough I'm not even going to give you the answer and yes I damn well do know the answer I've been a developer since way back in the day when WebTVs were the thing! And if this is how you're going to act towards developers of other people on here, then don't expect much help now! I'm sure you can figure it out Mr 100s of rom flashes!
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Say it with me one more time, just so you realize it ..... "You don't know"....You can wax and waste people's time ALL day long with your big talk but the straight truth is:
If you would have had the answer, you would have posted it.
I already got it, from someone who actually could answer the question. "He" didn't have any trouble with my request, at all, and had it summed up in a small paragraph.
So i guess that makes you the "special" person here...
Don't bother wasting space with a reply, "unsubscribe" was created for a-holes like you wanna talk big but can't come up with the answer. But then again people like you probably get off on posting to yourself anyway.
Kilroy5150 said:
Say it with me one more time, just so you realize it ..... "You don't know"....You can wax and waste people's time ALL day long with your big talk but the straight truth is:
If you would have had the answer, you would have posted it.
I already got it, from someone who actually could answer the question. "He" didn't have any trouble with my request, at all, and had it summed up in a small paragraph.
So i guess that makes you the "special" person here...
Don't bother wasting space with a reply, "unsubscribe" was created for a-holes like you wanna talk big but can't come up with the answer. But then again people like you probably get off on posting to yourself anyway.
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Lol.. You aren't getting under my skin little man.. I can reply wherever I want!! This isn't YouTube where you tap unsubscribe lmfao!!! You only have less than 50 post and you're going to come to xda with your mister know it all attitude and tell me what I do and don't know?! I have the answer to what you want to do and it's definitely in /system/media but good luck getting it to work (the right way).
If you would have replied nicely and asked nicely like other people on here do I would have showed you how to convert the files you and other stuff you needed but not interested now.. And if you think I'm so dumb and don't know nothing, I just wrote an entire page and a half just for the Galaxy S6 owners to root their phones! And Why? Because someone asked nicely!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72647478#post72647478
Kilroy5150 said:
I've got an N920t and i would love to put a simple 1st boot screen and add my company name and number to it so, if it's stolen, the average person won't have a CLUE how to get rid of the logo. I would also like to be able to change a cool animated GIF into the animation that pops up after the initial boot. Lastly, i would like a decent shut-down logo. I've downloaded Samsung's theme editor and it looks like i was created for the "yesterday" phones. I know where the qmg files are in the system/media. I just don't know 1) The screen dimensions 2) the conversion process of whatever to qmg. 3) whatever else i may have missed. Can anyone help?
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Samsung Theme's have nothing to do with what you want to accomplish.
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1) This conversation is so petty I'm not even sure why I'm responding to it.
2) Creating a boot animation for Samsung has EVERYTHING to do with Samsung Theme Designer.
3) Here is my tutorial for this.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63963738
4) Ignore the fact that the program looks old school. If you read my tutorial you'll see how that doesn't matter at all.
bogarty said:
1) This conversation is so petty I'm not even sure why I'm responding to it.
2) Creating a boot animation for Samsung has EVERYTHING to do with Samsung Theme Designer.
3) Here is my tutorial for this.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63963738
4) Ignore the fact that the program looks old school. If you read my tutorial you'll see how that doesn't matter at all.
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Well, i appreciate a straight-forward answer.
I reacted to the other guy the way i did because of his condescending attitude and the fact that he obviously didn't know but went out of his way to give a false impression of "knowledge" in the matter. Personally, i can't stand people who answer with useless information, have an attitude, and waste my time trying to "look" big...i appreciate you "not" being that kind of person.
You're right, it's petty, but sometimes it's necessary because (over the years) i've noticed these forums have become a home for "some" who seem to devote time to not giving people a straight answer and have a superiority complex doing it. Also, the douche bag had the arrogance to "label" me because i didn't post a lot on the forums, probably the biggest ignorance here to assume a person isn't knowledgeable about anything because they don't make a lot of noise in the forums.
It's like i've said from the jump....the guy who knows simply gives the straight answer.
Since that's what i really needed i'll just unsub the thread so i don't have to deal with him spouting any further.
Again, thanks.
Please keep it civil guys. No need to go mad. If you are annoyed by someone, please add them to your ignore list and move on.
No need to be disrespectful. The Forum Rulesforum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81 clearly state
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Hope I made myself clear! Thread cleaned for now.
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Vatsal,
Forum Moderator.
Actually, there isn't anything in the system partition that pertains to the initial graphic shown when the phone starts, that's actually part of the partition known as param, which is little more than a tar archive that's been written to the block device that is designated as PARAM directly. You can use dd to dump it and untar the resulting file with, you guessed it, tar. The images within the archive are png format, but you have to be careful to pay close attention to the very specific palette and compression used in the original images because if you fail to match it exactly then you run the very real risk of rendering the device bricked in an unrecoverable way as the only way to write the PARAM partition is via an environment where you can access dd, or any other utility that is capable of performing direct read and write to block devices, which is either a custom recovery or the running system itself and since it holds the logo shown immediately upon starting the device before the kernel itself or recovery then making a mistake is not an option. Said archive also holds the graphics for download mode as well as the battery image shown prior to the charging animation, which is loaded by the kernel and is a low power mode that partially boots the device and stops just before zygote is brought up, which is the base of the GUI if you were unaware. I've successfully modified every single image in the archive itself and I'd be glad to upload proof to that end as soon as I can borrow another device to capture the result with as I've only got my phone on hand at the moment. I can provide you with more detailed steps, specifically the arguments I used with the convert command from ImageMagick to ensure the image palette and compression were correct since I couldn't get GIMP to save the edited images with the necessary options.
As far as the qmg files, there are several tutorials on the forums that do a great job of detailing that process, but it requires access to a Windows machine as Samsung doesn't see fit to develop a cross-platform tool. Having said that, this is all under the assumption that you're familiar with Linux and a couple of common utilities within it, I don't use Windows save for audio production and the occasional Octoplus unlock, so I can't offer quite as precise information on performing the steps I've mentioned from that environment. I'll go ahead and dig up the arguments I mentioned for the convert utility and post them since I don't recall them from memory as I did this a few months ago. Suffice to say, I know what I'm doing and what I'm talking about and the first order of your request is most definitely possible though I've yet to have ever encountered any instruction on it or even mention of it until now aside from my own venture into that scary process.
It's worth noting that your idea of deterring theft is sound only if the thief would try to sell it and only if the buyer was a noble person, and most thieves don't keep company with good people so it would be something they got a chuckle out of at worst and a minor annoyance at best. Consider how many items must be stolen that have been engraved or otherwise marked and are sold without much ado over it, if they want to steal it they will and not think twice over it. Just my two cents there.
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Actually, there isn't anything in the system partition that pertains to the initial graphic shown when the phone starts, that's actually part of the partition known as param, which is little more than a tar archive that's been written to the block device that is designated as PARAM directly. You can use dd to dump it and untar the resulting file with, you guessed it, tar. The images within the archive are png format, but you have to be careful to pay close attention to the very specific palette and compression used in the original images because if you fail to match it exactly then you run the very real risk of rendering the device bricked in an unrecoverable way as the only way to write the PARAM partition is via an environment where you can access dd, or any other utility that is capable of performing direct read and write to block devices, which is either a custom recovery or the running system itself and since it holds the logo shown immediately upon starting the device before the kernel itself or recovery then making a mistake is not an option. Said archive also holds the graphics for download mode as well as the battery image shown prior to the charging animation, which is loaded by the kernel and is a low power mode that partially boots the device and stops just before zygote is brought up, which is the base of the GUI if you were unaware. I've successfully modified every single image in the archive itself and I'd be glad to upload proof to that end as soon as I can borrow another device to capture the result with as I've only got my phone on hand at the moment. I can provide you with more detailed steps, specifically the arguments I used with the convert command from ImageMagick to ensure the image palette and compression were correct since I couldn't get GIMP to save the edited images with the necessary options.
As far as the qmg files, there are several tutorials on the forums that do a great job of detailing that process, but it requires access to a Windows machine as Samsung doesn't see fit to develop a cross-platform tool. Having said that, this is all under the assumption that you're familiar with Linux and a couple of common utilities within it, I don't use Windows save for audio production and the occasional Octoplus unlock, so I can't offer quite as precise information on performing the steps I've mentioned from that environment. I'll go ahead and dig up the arguments I mentioned for the convert utility and post them since I don't recall them from memory as I did this a few months ago. Suffice to say, I know what I'm doing and what I'm talking about and the first order of your request is most definitely possible though I've yet to have ever encountered any instruction on it or even mention of it until now aside from my own venture into that scary process.
It's worth noting that your idea of deterring theft is sound only if the thief would try to sell it and only if the buyer was a noble person, and most thieves don't keep company with good people so it would be something they got a chuckle out of at worst and a minor annoyance at best. Consider how many items must be stolen that have been engraved or otherwise marked and are sold without much ado over it, if they want to steal it they will and not think twice over it. Just my two cents there.
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Yeah, i had some luck with Odin based flashing of the initial boot screen but haven't had a lot of time to play around with it. I just enjoy customizing the phone to the point to where (if anyone steals it) there's no doubt it's mine. I can walk in and say "It does this on boot" without even looking and i've done that in the past and it's worked out great with reclaiming a stolen phone. The more customized you make it, the harder it is for the pawn-shop owner to argue it's not yours (and they WILL try). I've had to bring the authorities in. "Noble" is not a word that most pawn-shop owners seem to know
It's just odd how these phones change their structure so much that general "boot animation" apps have no effect on them at all.
Thanks for the info.
Kilroy5150 said:
Yeah, i had some luck with Odin based flashing of the initial boot screen but haven't had a lot of time to play around with it. I just enjoy customizing the phone to the point to where (if anyone steals it) there's no doubt it's mine. I can walk in and say "It does this on boot" without even looking and i've done that in the past and it's worked out great with reclaiming a stolen phone. The more customized you make it, the harder it is for the pawn-shop owner to argue it's not yours (and they WILL try). I've had to bring the authorities in. "Noble" is not a word that most pawn-shop owners seem to know
It's just odd how these phones change their structure so much that general "boot animation" apps have no effect on them at all.
Thanks for the info.
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The easiest way I've found is RomToolbox pro.
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mainmast2 said:
The easiest way I've found is RomToolbox pro.
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Yup, had it for a long time. But it seems to have no effect on my phone since i got Nougat. In fact, "none" of the usual apps seem to work. Must be a new set of rules. The only ways i've seen them change are by Odin and that rom installer (Aroma, isn't it?) that everyone is so fond of.
Kilroy5150 said:
Yup, had it for a long time. But it seems to have no effect on my phone since i got Nougat. In fact, "none" of the usual apps seem to work. Must be a new set of rules. The only ways i've seen them change are by Odin and that rom installer (Aroma, isn't it?) that everyone is so fond of.
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Huh, I haven't changed mine since switching to nougat. The custom logo hasn't changed from before the upgrade. Thanks for the info.
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