I know Chainfire has decided to test his theory of systemless root for marshmallow but I'm wondering if it'll work on the L90. I have the D-415 and I've tried flashing the old SuperSU zip(2.45 I think) and it just soft bricked it. And I flashed his latest zip for marshmallow (2.54 I think) and all it did was install the app SuperSU. I know it requires a modified boot image to work. Do we have one for the L90 that'll work? Thanks.
Never mind I did some more digging and saw that 2.61 works. Using it now.
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Hey guys! So I read around about rooting Android 6.0.1 and I only see systemless root. I am rooted right now using systemless root and it works fine, but my question is, is there a way to root 6.0.1 with traditional system root? Or is systemless the only way? Just curious really. Will systemless most likely be the future of rooting and the way it's going to have to be done from now on to keep Android Pay working?
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I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
StykerB said:
I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
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Thanks for the response! And I wonder if it will be what it is for now! It's the only way to keep Android Pay working while the device is rooted correct? Android Pay refuses to work with a traditionally rooted device?
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StykerB said:
I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
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I did. I still use SU2.52. But only until this weekend. I'm switching to systemless too.
Actually building a permissive kernel is really straightforward, needs one line of code added. The build is about five minuters then with abootimg you can just replace the existing with the newly buil kernel in the boot.img, and flash it.
I can give you details if you're interested.
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I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
kamkar said:
Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
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Mine works perfectly.
kamkar said:
Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
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The first systemless root did that, go back to that thread and get the newest version and flash that, fixed that issue.
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Krzysiek_CK said:
Mine works perfectly.
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How? I pass this steps to install and root 6.0.1:
First of all, I have a clean install of 6.0.1
then flash TWRP
In TWRP, install SuperSU 2.61 that flash a custom boot.img automatically. after dalvik/cash wipe, reboot to OS
After that, reboot to recovery again and flash a custom kernel
but supersu doesn't work and ES file explorer says device doesn't have root permission.
however, I need read/write permission in /system folder to delete some useless apks
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The first systemless root did that, go back to that thread and get the newest version and flash that, fixed that issue.
Sent from my Nexus 6
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I tested 2.61, is problem fixed in 2.62.3? because I must flash 6.0.1 and setup phone again!
i rooted the old fashioned way, there's no difference except you also have to flash a custom kernel when flashing supersu.
simms22 said:
i rooted the old fashioned way, there's no difference except you also have to flash a custom kernel when flashing supersu.
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Same way it was with 6.0 right? And Android Pay doesn't work with traditional root? Does it break anything else besides Android Pay?
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H4X0R46 said:
Same way it was with 6.0 right? And Android Pay doesn't work with traditional root? Does it break anything else besides Android Pay?
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ive no use for pay, so never tried. i assume its broken..
Sorry,
I have a Nexus 6 with 6.0.
I am trying to find how to update to 6.0.1 with no-enforced-encryption and then do a systemless rooting but I cannot find the instructions to do this
Seems that just flashing stock, TWRP and the flashing supersu 2.61 from there is enough to have systemless root, right?
but what about no-force-encrypt?
Probably I am changing the discussion but have not found a good thread, apologies.
Thanks in advance.
carmatana said:
Sorry,
I have a Nexus 6 with 6.0.
I am trying to find how to update to 6.0.1 with no-enforced-encryption and then do a systemless rooting but I cannot find the instructions to do this
Seems that just flashing stock, TWRP and the flashing supersu 2.61 from there is enough to have systemless root, right?
but what about no-force-encrypt?
Probably I am changing the discussion but have not found a good thread, apologies.
Thanks in advance.
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What you probably wanna do is go for a custom kernel that doesn't force encryption. Most if not all don't force it! Elementalx is a good one, maybe elite kernel, and so many others! I use ElementalX on mine, my favorite kernel. www.elementalx.org if you wanna try that one! Others are found here on XDA!
EDIT: Looks like elementalx says to use SuperSU 2.61 or later, which is systemless, I would try another. Maybe elite or another one.
H4X0R46 said:
What you probably wanna do is go for a custom kernel that doesn't force encryption. Most if not all don't force it! Elementalx is a good one, maybe elite kernel, and so many others! I use ElementalX on mine, my favorite kernel. www.elementalx.org if you wanna try that one! Others are found here on XDA!
EDIT: Looks like elementalx says to use SuperSU 2.61 or later, which is systemless, I would try another. Maybe elite or another one.
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Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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I would say yes, I'm 90% sure but could be wrong. I would flash the a new update with fastboot.
carmatana said:
Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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Any mod stops ota's. Root, kernels....You will have to flash full images to get updates. You can skip the userdata part and save your apps and data. But you will have to flash.
Not a big deal, it an extra couple of commands just like the kernel you want to flash.
Thanks!
kamkar said:
How? I pass this steps to install and root 6.0.1:
First of all, I have a clean install of 6.0.1
then flash TWRP
In TWRP, install SuperSU 2.61 that flash a custom boot.img automatically. after dalvik/cash wipe, reboot to OS
After that, reboot to recovery again and flash a custom kernel
but supersu doesn't work and ES file explorer says device doesn't have root permission.
however, I need read/write permission in /system folder to delete some useless apks
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Clean 6.0.1 followed by systemless root installation as expained in the Root done right thread.
I'm wondering if anyone has had success with magisk on the note 4 on epg2 or epe3. I'm currently running AICP on EPG2, 910T on T-Mobile. I wasnt able to find anything in the forums about whether Magisk will work.
It doesn't look like Niantic is going to pull safetynet from the game, and I'd rather not unroot. Anyone tried it? And if so, what Rom did you start with? I was thinking of flashing a deodexed rooted Rom, unrooting, then flashing magisk. Would that work, or do I need to start with a completely stock, unrooted Rom?
Any advice is appreciated!
Well, if anyone else is interested, I've successfully installed magisk, systemless root, and root toggle works perfectly. I even got it to work with ACIP rom, which is a cm13 build, on EPG2 baseband. About to install closed on top of it.
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I'm wondering if anyone has had success with magisk on the note 4 on epg2 or epe3. I'm currently running AICP on EPG2, 910T on T-Mobile. I wasnt able to find anything in the forums about whether Magisk will work.
It doesn't look like Niantic is going to pull safetynet from the game, and I'd rather not unroot. Anyone tried it? And if so, what Rom did you start with? I was thinking of flashing a deodexed rooted Rom, unrooting, then flashing magisk. Would that work, or do I need to start with a completely stock, unrooted Rom?
Any advice is appreciated!
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im running stock rom epg2 then rooted it with phh superuser 17, installed magisk, systemless xposed framework & was able to play pogo.
I used CF Auto Root a while back to root my Nexus 6 (months ago). It did the trick getting the bootloader unlocked and rooting the phone. I then proceeded to install TWRP and then installed Pure Nexus. From then to know the phone has been a joy to use. This ROM is fantastic.
Recently I decided to look into custom Kernels, Elementalx is the one I have been reading up on. I installed the kernel, and then purchase the EX Kernel Manager. Using the app I realized that the phone wasn't rooted, or so it told me. I test this with the Root Checker Basic App and it confirmed that the phone was not rooted.
I am not sure what happened but what I wanted to do was run the SuperSU zip via TWRP again, but wanted to ask you guys if this would be an issue. I can't see why it would but it Rooth had already been achived and then it was gone so..... I just wanted to ask in case.
Sorry that this was a little long winded. Thanks in advance.
Magisk and SuperSU achieve root without modifying the system partition through patching of the kernel's ramdisk (?). When you installed the new kernel it installed an unpatched copy. This is why you lost root.
Download SuperSU from the XDA thread and flash it in TWRP to restore root.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Magisk and SuperSU achieve root without modifying the system partition through patching of the kernel's ramdisk (?). When you installed the new kernel it installed an unpatched copy. This is why you lost root.
Download SuperSU from the XDA thread and flash it in TWRP to restore root.
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Thanks for the quick reply. That makes sense. I will run SuperSU again. Take care.
Ive been on here for about 4 hours and to no avail, I cant find the answer to my question. I have a Verizon HTC 10 rooted with SuperSU and TWRP. Im still on version 6.0.1 (MM) with the software 1.85.605.8. My question is, can I go about unrooting SuperSU without losing anything ( data, apps etc) and installing Magisk in its place?
I want to know what Im at risk of losing before I do a full unroot of SuperSU.
In the same boat
I did my first root yesterday on a Nexus 7 with Nexus Root Toolkit v2.1.9 which apparently uses Chainfire SuperSU. Now I find I really needed Magisk to deal with the app issues. I've seen a couple tutorials about switching but not clear if I will have to lose everything and start from scratch. Any help ASAP would be greatly appreciated
This sounds like it really should be in the Magisk forums... There's info there (check the stickies).