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I read on another forum that Titanium Backup does not work if you're using systemless root. Can anyone verify if this is true ?
If TB does work, how would I go about upgrading stock Android 6.01 rooted with TWRP to 6.0.1 with systemless root ?
aparanoidandroid said:
If TB does work, how would I go about upgrading stock Android 6.01 rooted with TWRP to 6.0.1 with systemless root ?
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Make backup's with TWRP.
NLBeev said:
Make backup's with TWRP.
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I know how to make backups with TB. That wasn't my question. My question is, how do I go from 6.0 rooted with SuperSU to 6.0.1 with systemless root (assuming TB works in 6.0.1)
aparanoidandroid said:
... how do I go from 6.0 rooted with SuperSU to 6.0.1 with systemless root (assuming TB works in 6.0.1)
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Read post 2153 of @Tylog in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3059493
NLBeev said:
Read post 2153 of @Tylog in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3059493
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So is SuperSU 2.61 the ZIP for Chainfire's systemless root ?
aparanoidandroid said:
So is SuperSU 2.61 the ZIP for Chainfire's systemless root ?
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Yes since version 2.6x.
NLBeev said:
Yes since version 2.6x.
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What about Titanium Backup ? Can anyone verify if it works or not with systemless root ? I read a post on Reddit where someone said that they were not able to use it with this root method. Do root apps need to be specifically modified for this type of rooting so it can recognize it ?
Also just to be clear, I am on stock Android 6.0 ROM, rooted and with TWRP recovery.
so the order that I would need following according to the post that you gave me is:
Flash 6.0.1 ROM
flash Update-unSU
flash SuperUser 2.61 or 2.52
Is that correct ? Can I dirty flash 6.0.1 over 6.0 ?
aparanoidandroid said:
What about Titanium Backup ? Can anyone verify if it works or not with systemless root ? I read a post on Reddit where someone said that they were not able to use it with this root method.
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Root apps with hard coded su-stuff needs to be updated for use with systemless root.
What I read....There is a new version 2.62 that solves compatibility issues. But Android Pay will not work.
NLBeev said:
Root apps with hard coded su-stuff needs to be updated for use with systemless root.
What I read....There is a new version 2.62 that solves compatibility issues. But Android Pay will not work.
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Oh really ? From what I read, Android Pay and OTA both do work using systemless root although many people think that Google will find a way to block Android Pay again. Its one of the reasons I wanted to use systemless root in the first place.
aparanoidandroid said:
Oh really ? From what I read, Android Pay and OTA both do work using systemless root..
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Not with version 2.62. Info in the SuperSU thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125
NLBeev said:
Not with version 2.62. Info in the SuperSU thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125
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OK. Thanks for the info.
Yes, TB works with systemless root.
I was running stock 6.0 w/ root (a few xposed mods) and here's what I did:
Wiped system, flashed Cataclysm, flashed SU 2.61, rebooted, profit.
I also manually updated the radio by using fastboot, for what it's worth. AdAway made me create a simlink with the systemless root, but TB seemed to work just fine.
EDIT: I wiped system before anything as I knew it would get rid of any root files and anything related to Xposed. Phone has been running great, but I haven't re-done Xposed as the only modules I really used were GravityBox and YouTubeAdAway. Catacylsm has almost all the features I used in GB so no need to do both. I might put Xposed on tonight for kicks, but I don't really need it for anything right now.
hayzooos said:
Yes, TB works with systemless root.
I was running stock 6.0 w/ root (a few xposed mods) and here's what I did:
Wiped system, flashed Cataclysm, flashed SU 2.61, rebooted, profit.
I also manually updated the radio by using fastboot, for what it's worth. AdAway made me create a simlink with the systemless root, but TB seemed to work just fine.
EDIT: I wiped system before anything as I knew it would get rid of any root files and anything related to Xposed. Phone has been running great, but I haven't re-done Xposed as the only modules I really used were GravityBox and YouTubeAdAway. Catacylsm has almost all the features I used in GB so no need to do both. I might put Xposed on tonight for kicks, but I don't really need it for anything right now.
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thanks but what happens when you wipe system ? What will I lose other than root ?
aparanoidandroid said:
thanks but what happens when you wipe system ? What will I lose other than root ?
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Anything Xposed related will be gone, but other than that...nothing. All apps, settings, etc of mine were all retained. Wifi networks, bluetooth connections, all those stayed. Wallpaper, Nova Launcher setup/settings, stayed.
Most ROMs have built in their script to wipe the system partition before flashing anyway, so you're likely already doing it if you're flashing ROMs. I just wanted to start with a pretty clean slate and check to see if anything in data was causing issues, and nothing so far.
Titanium Backup 7.4.0.2 and System Root was working about 2 weeks ago FLAWLESSLY
My last Titanium Backup was on July 7, 2016 with Systemless root, with XPosed, Gavitybox for MM and Stock 6.0 ROM Build MPHS24.49-18-3. I have been using Titanium Backup since I got my MOTO X Pure (2015) in May of 2016, and everything is working great, except I just noticed that Titanium Backup v 7.4.0.2 states
"Error
Sorry,
I could not acquire root privileges.
This application will *not* work! Please
verify that your ROM is rooted, and try
again.
This attempt was made using the "/system/
bin/su"command."
CLETjB said:
My last Titanium Backup was on July 7, 2016 with Systemless root, with XPosed, Gavitybox for MM and Stock 6.0 ROM Build MPHS24.49-18-3. I have been using Titanium Backup since I got my MOTO X Pure (2015) in May of 2016, and everything is working great, except I just noticed that Titanium Backup v 7.4.0.2 states
"Error
Sorry,
I could not acquire root privileges.
This application will *not* work! Please
verify that your ROM is rooted, and try
again.
This attempt was made using the "/system/
bin/su"command."
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Do you have Busybox installed? If not, that may be why. Had the same issue, installed Busybox to /su/xbin, and all is good now.
Gravity Box works with XPosed Framework, which ONLY works with "BusyBox on Rails", which I do have installed. Not sure if I can tell it where to install BusyBox, but it seems to be working now.
Does anyone have a clue to get magisk and titanium backup to work with each other... TB does not seem to ask for Root, seems to simply bypass it...
-----Nevermind, just make sure you have unticked Magisk Hide- in Settings. WORKS!
Hey guys! So I read around about rooting Android 6.0.1 and I only see systemless root. I am rooted right now using systemless root and it works fine, but my question is, is there a way to root 6.0.1 with traditional system root? Or is systemless the only way? Just curious really. Will systemless most likely be the future of rooting and the way it's going to have to be done from now on to keep Android Pay working?
Sent from my Nexus 6
I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
StykerB said:
I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
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Thanks for the response! And I wonder if it will be what it is for now! It's the only way to keep Android Pay working while the device is rooted correct? Android Pay refuses to work with a traditionally rooted device?
Sent from my Nexus 6
StykerB said:
I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
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I did. I still use SU2.52. But only until this weekend. I'm switching to systemless too.
Actually building a permissive kernel is really straightforward, needs one line of code added. The build is about five minuters then with abootimg you can just replace the existing with the newly buil kernel in the boot.img, and flash it.
I can give you details if you're interested.
Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
kamkar said:
Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
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Mine works perfectly.
kamkar said:
Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
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The first systemless root did that, go back to that thread and get the newest version and flash that, fixed that issue.
Sent from my Nexus 6
Krzysiek_CK said:
Mine works perfectly.
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How? I pass this steps to install and root 6.0.1:
First of all, I have a clean install of 6.0.1
then flash TWRP
In TWRP, install SuperSU 2.61 that flash a custom boot.img automatically. after dalvik/cash wipe, reboot to OS
After that, reboot to recovery again and flash a custom kernel
but supersu doesn't work and ES file explorer says device doesn't have root permission.
however, I need read/write permission in /system folder to delete some useless apks
H4X0R46 said:
The first systemless root did that, go back to that thread and get the newest version and flash that, fixed that issue.
Sent from my Nexus 6
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I tested 2.61, is problem fixed in 2.62.3? because I must flash 6.0.1 and setup phone again!
i rooted the old fashioned way, there's no difference except you also have to flash a custom kernel when flashing supersu.
simms22 said:
i rooted the old fashioned way, there's no difference except you also have to flash a custom kernel when flashing supersu.
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Same way it was with 6.0 right? And Android Pay doesn't work with traditional root? Does it break anything else besides Android Pay?
Sent from my Nexus 6
H4X0R46 said:
Same way it was with 6.0 right? And Android Pay doesn't work with traditional root? Does it break anything else besides Android Pay?
Sent from my Nexus 6
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ive no use for pay, so never tried. i assume its broken..
Sorry,
I have a Nexus 6 with 6.0.
I am trying to find how to update to 6.0.1 with no-enforced-encryption and then do a systemless rooting but I cannot find the instructions to do this
Seems that just flashing stock, TWRP and the flashing supersu 2.61 from there is enough to have systemless root, right?
but what about no-force-encrypt?
Probably I am changing the discussion but have not found a good thread, apologies.
Thanks in advance.
carmatana said:
Sorry,
I have a Nexus 6 with 6.0.
I am trying to find how to update to 6.0.1 with no-enforced-encryption and then do a systemless rooting but I cannot find the instructions to do this
Seems that just flashing stock, TWRP and the flashing supersu 2.61 from there is enough to have systemless root, right?
but what about no-force-encrypt?
Probably I am changing the discussion but have not found a good thread, apologies.
Thanks in advance.
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What you probably wanna do is go for a custom kernel that doesn't force encryption. Most if not all don't force it! Elementalx is a good one, maybe elite kernel, and so many others! I use ElementalX on mine, my favorite kernel. www.elementalx.org if you wanna try that one! Others are found here on XDA!
EDIT: Looks like elementalx says to use SuperSU 2.61 or later, which is systemless, I would try another. Maybe elite or another one.
H4X0R46 said:
What you probably wanna do is go for a custom kernel that doesn't force encryption. Most if not all don't force it! Elementalx is a good one, maybe elite kernel, and so many others! I use ElementalX on mine, my favorite kernel. www.elementalx.org if you wanna try that one! Others are found here on XDA!
EDIT: Looks like elementalx says to use SuperSU 2.61 or later, which is systemless, I would try another. Maybe elite or another one.
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Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
carmatana said:
Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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I would say yes, I'm 90% sure but could be wrong. I would flash the a new update with fastboot.
carmatana said:
Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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Any mod stops ota's. Root, kernels....You will have to flash full images to get updates. You can skip the userdata part and save your apps and data. But you will have to flash.
Not a big deal, it an extra couple of commands just like the kernel you want to flash.
Thanks!
kamkar said:
How? I pass this steps to install and root 6.0.1:
First of all, I have a clean install of 6.0.1
then flash TWRP
In TWRP, install SuperSU 2.61 that flash a custom boot.img automatically. after dalvik/cash wipe, reboot to OS
After that, reboot to recovery again and flash a custom kernel
but supersu doesn't work and ES file explorer says device doesn't have root permission.
however, I need read/write permission in /system folder to delete some useless apks
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Clean 6.0.1 followed by systemless root installation as expained in the Root done right thread.
Im trying to get viper4android installed on stock kernel (t817t). Ive searched high and low. All attempts have failed. I have switched the kernel to permisive, flashed all the build prop mods.
Has anyone got it to work?
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llawen said:
Im trying to get viper4android installed on stock kernel (t817t). Ive searched high and low. All attempts have failed. I have switched the kernel to permisive, flashed all the build prop mods.
Has anyone got it to work?
Sent from my SM-T817T using Tapatalk
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Did you gave it storage permission on Application Manager?
follow these instructions, i did and have it working on both my Tab S2 and S7 Edge
http://www.droidviews.com/enjoy-viper4android-on-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/
I flashed one of the v4.8 zips from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/viperaudio-viperatmos-3-8-sq-driver-t3289075 (I think it was the Beats Universal version near the bottom) and V4A works great. Dolby Atmos isn't working however, fc every time I open it. I think it's fixable but I haven't really messed with it because I don't listen to music on my S2 very often and I'm happy with just Viper.
Flash this
Same for me, I did a lot of things just with no luck. So I decided to make a factory reset, clean install the new MM update trough Odin, then install TWRP and flash SuperSu zip.
Then I found this THREAD made for the s7 and found this ZIP inside the replies, the flashed it and worked like a charm.
Instructions to install a working V4a (pay attention because it's extremely difficult):
1-> Hard factory reset. (just take the tab back to stock)
2->Update to MM with odin if u want (I don't know if it works on Lollipop)
4->Flash TWRP through Odin
5->Flash SuperSu through TWRP (this will root the tab)
6->Install Busybox from Google play
7->Flash this zip through TWRP.
5->Done
Not difficult, just joking.
Let me know if it worked for you. If you need more instructions about installing MM just go to my post if you want.
miguimercadob said:
Same for me, I did a lot of things just with no luck. So I decided to make a factory reset, clean install the new MM update trough Odin, then install TWRP and flash SuperSu zip.
Then I found this THREAD made for the s7 and found this ZIP inside the replies, the flashed it and worked like a charm.
Instructions to install a working V4a (pay attention because it's extremely difficult):
1-> Hard factory reset. (just take the tab back to stock)
2->Update to MM with odin if u want (I don't know if it works on Lollipop even )
4->Flash TWRP through Odin
5->Flash SuperSu through TWRP (this will root the tab)
6->Install Busybox from Google play
7->Flash this zip through odin.
5->Done
Not difficult, just joking.
Let me know if it worked for you. If you need more instructions about installing MM just go to my post if you want.
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Works fine
Sent from my SM-T710 using XDA-Developers mobile app
miguimercadob said:
Same for me, I did a lot of things just with no luck. So I decided to make a factory reset, clean install the new MM update trough Odin, then install TWRP and flash SuperSu zip.
Then I found this THREAD made for the s7 and found this ZIP inside the replies, the flashed it and worked like a charm.
Instructions to install a working V4a (pay attention because it's extremely difficult):
1-> Hard factory reset. (just take the tab back to stock)
2->Update to MM with odin if u want (I don't know if it works on Lollipop even )
4->Flash TWRP through Odin
5->Flash SuperSu through TWRP (this will root the tab)
6->Install Busybox from Google play
7->Flash this zip through odin.
5->Done
Not difficult, just joking.
Let me know if it worked for you. If you need more instructions about installing MM just go to my post if you want.
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Finally this worked for me on the first hit, after spending hours installing other v4a releases.. .
(not flashed the zip with odin.... Flashed it in TWRP)
Thanks!
miguimercadob said:
Same for me, I did a lot of things just with no luck. So I decided to make a factory reset, clean install the new MM update trough Odin, then install TWRP and flash SuperSu zip.
Then I found this THREAD made for the s7 and found this ZIP inside the replies, the flashed it and worked like a charm.
Instructions to install a working V4a (pay attention because it's extremely difficult):
1-> Hard factory reset. (just take the tab back to stock)
2->Update to MM with odin if u want (I don't know if it works on Lollipop)
4->Flash TWRP through Odin
5->Flash SuperSu through TWRP (this will root the tab)
6->Install Busybox from Google play
7->Flash this zip through TWRP.
5->Done
Not difficult, just joking.
Let me know if it worked for you. If you need more instructions about installing MM just go to my post if you want.
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Thx so much! Worked perfectly. Although all i did was search for the file name on Google (cuz the owner of the file had it in his trash bin) and flash w twrp cuz my rom is still stock and I had already done everything else long ago.
If any future ppl need the file, here it is: http://d-h.st/YKOZ
And if that link turns up dead eventually, search this file name on Google, there should still be one out there somewhere
ViPER4Android_FX_A4_6.0.1_New
7.1.1 anyone ?
hello dudes!
the file from above worked perfectly on 6.0.1 for me
just updated to 7.1.1 and as expected this version doesn't work on 7.1.1
anyone out there who managed to get viper working on 7.1.1
ROM on SMT810
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-s2/development/rom-resurrection-remix-t3508176
Thanks !
SOLVED !
Viper installation zip
&
this Busybox works aswell, if you are not on x86
from original post
BTW : damn ugly UI
Hi all,
I initially rooted my nougat and i'd like to remove the root.
My understanding was with the root (17 me.phh supersu cm-su subind suinit) in order to remove it, I need to reflash the original boot image.
Like a numpty I didn't make a backup of it.
Is there anyway that anyone might have it somewhere and can share?
I installed the newest TWRP (decryption support) but would like a clean boot.img so when magisk and xposed are working I can do everything systemless.
Thanks in advance!!!
streetsurfer said:
Hi all,
I initially rooted my nougat and i'd like to remove the root.
My understanding was with the root (17 me.phh supersu cm-su subind suinit) in order to remove it, I need to reflash the original boot image.
Like a numpty I didn't make a backup of it.
Is there anyway that anyone might have it somewhere and can share?
I installed the newest TWRP (decryption support) but would like a clean boot.img so when magisk and xposed are working I can do everything systemless.
Thanks in advance!!!
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I have same build number. How I can help you
Download Nougat firmware and extract the boot from it
Ooh. Right! Hah. I'm an idiot.
I presume I can just flash via TWRP as well too.
I used CF Auto Root a while back to root my Nexus 6 (months ago). It did the trick getting the bootloader unlocked and rooting the phone. I then proceeded to install TWRP and then installed Pure Nexus. From then to know the phone has been a joy to use. This ROM is fantastic.
Recently I decided to look into custom Kernels, Elementalx is the one I have been reading up on. I installed the kernel, and then purchase the EX Kernel Manager. Using the app I realized that the phone wasn't rooted, or so it told me. I test this with the Root Checker Basic App and it confirmed that the phone was not rooted.
I am not sure what happened but what I wanted to do was run the SuperSU zip via TWRP again, but wanted to ask you guys if this would be an issue. I can't see why it would but it Rooth had already been achived and then it was gone so..... I just wanted to ask in case.
Sorry that this was a little long winded. Thanks in advance.
Magisk and SuperSU achieve root without modifying the system partition through patching of the kernel's ramdisk (?). When you installed the new kernel it installed an unpatched copy. This is why you lost root.
Download SuperSU from the XDA thread and flash it in TWRP to restore root.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Magisk and SuperSU achieve root without modifying the system partition through patching of the kernel's ramdisk (?). When you installed the new kernel it installed an unpatched copy. This is why you lost root.
Download SuperSU from the XDA thread and flash it in TWRP to restore root.
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Thanks for the quick reply. That makes sense. I will run SuperSU again. Take care.