Hello,
What differences are there between MIUI EU and MIUI stock?
Less bloatware (is it really that bad? )
It's nice to have google stuff built in, but it's fairly easy to install anyway.
What else?
I'm wondering if it's really worth the trouble to switch to MIUI EU, if I can root the stock ROM anyway.
All of the reviews say the Mix is quite snappy, I'm wondering if all the lags/etc are caused by the MIUI EU rom?
Not sure if you read my posts on here complaining about the lags or not. But it sounded like you might have lol.
I was on EU ROM for about 3 days, and the user experience wasn't all that great at all. Snappy is the last word I would use to describe my experience with it. I'm switching to China Dev ROM, and I will see how well it runs on the Mi Mix comparing to EU ROM. Do note at the EU ROM is in very early stage, weekly build for Mi Mix has been suspended for 2 consecutive weeks. I'm sure EU ROM has a lot to bring in the near future. As of right now, I think I'm sticking to the stock ROM.
jim380 said:
Not sure if you read my posts on here complaining about the lags or not. But it sounded like you might have lol.
I was on EU ROM for about 3 days, and the user experience wasn't all that great at all. Snappy is the last word I would use to describe my experience with it. I'm switching to China Dev ROM, and I will see how well it runs on the Mi Mix comparing to EU ROM. Do note at the EU ROM is in very early stage, weekly build for Mi Mix has been suspended for 2 consecutive weeks. I'm sure EU ROM has a lot to bring in the near future. As of right now, I think I'm sticking to the stock ROM.
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I had the same issue as well.
It feels buggy. I didn't face any lags when I was on the Chinese rom, but the eu rom seems to have some issues at the moment.
I had multiple freezes as well as slow downs.
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Also, When I received my phone, the seller installed multi-language rom. It's not the eu rom.
I think they just enabled other languages on the Chinese rom, and It worked great.
Reverted to the twrp backup and its much smoother.
I'm the opposite of you guys. EU dev Rom was better for me than the China stable Rom. On CN, Play Store download lagged, time was not always correct due to locale always reverting back to China even though I set to a different country and had to turn off Auto Time Zone. I had issues downloading and being unable to set wallpapers and lock screen. The only way I could change it is by changing the themes.
But with EU dev, I didn't have any of those issues.
I would consider reflashing the EU dev to see if it helps or not but up to you.
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...I had issues downloading and being unable to set wallpapers and lock screen. The only way I could change it is by changing the themes.
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I have exactly this issue with the EU rom
fatouraee said:
Also, When I received my phone, the seller installed multi-language rom. It's not the eu rom.
I think they just enabled other languages on the Chinese rom, and It worked great.
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Same here, had play store already on too. Everything worked great, left localization to China as nothing else seemed better and language was already English. The built in weather app didn't work but no biggy. What got me though, was being a Google Voice user I could set it to make all calls with GB - if I did calls would start with the dialer coming up but then immediately closing. Only worked for calls with GV set to not make any calls. Had to let it go.for this reason but if euro ROM doesn't have this GV making calls issue (can anyone try and advise) I would get another.
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RMXO said:
I'm the opposite of you guys. EU dev Rom was better for me than the China stable Rom. On CN, Play Store download lagged, time was not always correct due to locale always reverting back to China even though I set to a different country and had to turn off Auto Time Zone. I had issues downloading and being unable to set wallpapers and lock screen. The only way I could change it is by changing the themes.
But with EU dev, I didn't have any of those issues.
I would consider reflashing the EU dev to see if it helps or not but up to you.
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I was going to stick w/the Global MIUI,as I'm not having performance issues (Phone/Messaging/G-Mail/Data/WI-FI all excellent).
I wouldn't even mind the Xiaomi/MIUI Bloat if I could disable most of it,namely the built-in CleanMaster malware.
The memory management seems a bit aggressive as well,regarding recent apps,regardless of app/system settings.
Can the Xiaomi/MIUI/CleanMasterbloat be disabled on the stock/unrooted (?) EU ROM,or,is TWRP/ROOT (SD Maid/TI-Bu) the only solution?
I was able to disable the memory manager and clean up stuff, also some utility that seems to make you confirm permissions for apps over and over. Mine was China ROM with multi-language support added.
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I was able to disable the memory manager and clean up stuff, also some utility that seems to make you confirm permissions for apps over and over. Mine was China ROM with multi-language support added.
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Which utility are you talking about? The one that ask for NFC permissions? I'm looking how to disable that.
One thing to add regarding EU rom is that BT is working properly now as before with CN rom, BT would take so many attempts just to connect. Now with EU, it connects automatically instead of me continuously trying to get it to connect. One thing I do miss is having wifi calling but I'll get over it.
I wasn't able to disable system apps until I installed https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.namelessrom.devicecontrol&hl=en
I found that app after googling it, http://www.ghacks.net/2016/04/11/remove-system-apps-from-xiaomi-devices/
Yeah, perhaps - if memory serves it was always asking for NFC permissions bit I think it did so with others.
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Yeah, perhaps - if memory serves it was always asking for NFC permissions bit I think it did so with others.
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I found it weird but didn't think nothing of it until recently. Been trying to figure out how to disable the NFC permissions on apps and I looked at apps permissions to see if i can turn it off but only saw: Contacts, Location, Phone and Storage.
Sorry, can't recall specifically but I think if you go in through their cleaner utility you can turn it off there.
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Sorry, can't recall specifically but I think if you go in through their cleaner utility you can turn it off there.
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No worries.
I do recall this, it is one of their app shortcuts. So browse through.
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I do recall this, it is one of their app shortcuts. So browse through.
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Thanks, found it in Settings > Permissions > Other permissions.
Definitely gonna open a Xiaomi account here in a few minutes,gonna have to unlock/root/install the EU ROM,the memory management has seemingly went from bad to worse,turning off Google Play Music repeatedly,only keeping 3 apps in recents & having to manually connect my Gear S2 on every boot.
The latter two I can tolerate,especially the Gear S2,as it stays connected once I force/manually do so within the Gear Manager app.
But,the constant interruption of Google Play Music is not cool.
Seems MIUI is the mess I've been reading about for years,some of it is nice but,that Clean Master garbage keeps opening up stuff I don't want (Browser) & closing the things I actually use.
The settings seem redundant as for memory management/permissions: too many cooks in the kitchen.
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Definitely gonna open a Xiaomi account here in a few minutes,gonna have to unlock/root/install the EU ROM,the memory management has seemingly went from bad to worse,turning off Google Play Music repeatedly,only keeping 3 apps in recents & having to manually connect my Gear S2 on every boot.
The latter two I can tolerate,especially the Gear S2,as it stays connected once I force/manually do so within the Gear Manager app.
But,the constant interruption of Google Play Music is not cool.
Seems MIUI is the mess I've been reading about for years,some of it is nice but,that Clean Master garbage keeps opening up stuff I don't want (Browser) & closing the things I actually use.
The settings seem redundant as for memory management/permissions: too many cooks in the kitchen.
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Yeah its a mess, I had to go in there and manually set everything, I did set apps not to suspend like Play Music and others though. The best part of MIUI is its constant updates if you're into using MIUI, if you're into using stock. Hopefully, there will be devs creating ROM's for this phone soon.
I'm really liking this phone and I'll grow use to MIUI but I do miss the SPEN and TW calendar app though, lol.
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Definitely gonna open a Xiaomi account here in a few minutes,gonna have to unlock/root/install the EU ROM,the memory management has seemingly went from bad to worse,turning off Google Play Music repeatedly,only keeping 3 apps in recents & having to manually connect my Gear S2 on every boot.
The latter two I can tolerate,especially the Gear S2,as it stays connected once I force/manually do so within the Gear Manager app.
But,the constant interruption of Google Play Music is not cool.
Seems MIUI is the mess I've been reading about for years,some of it is nice but,that Clean Master garbage keeps opening up stuff I don't want (Browser) & closing the things I actually use.
The settings seem redundant as for memory management/permissions: too many cooks in the kitchen.
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I got unlock code in about a day and a half. Pretty painless.
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I got unlock code in about a day and a half. Pretty painless.
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My unlock code came two days later but my devices was already unlocked from the retailer i bought it from. Stupid me didn't check if it was unlocked or not beforehand.
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I got unlock code in about a day and a half. Pretty painless.
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THX for the feedback.
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My unlock code came two days later but my devices was already unlocked from the retailer i bought it from. Stupid me didn't check if it was unlocked or not beforehand.
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Yours may have been the one post I saw regarding looking for the unlock on verdor-installed Global ROM & which prompted me to check,mine was unlocked as well.
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Updated the Tmobile 5.0 today, deffeantly tell of the changes. My first problem though was the app updates. They would not up date while the new Google Play Services was updated. I Restarted my phone then unistalled the Google Play Services update to finally get rid of the clash. Just an FYI for yall out there
AUTOROOT
I just rooted my N4 just fine using auto root, also have no problems so far with Philz recovery. Dont know if yall already knew these would be smooth transitions but I didnt lol. Well just some fyis. Have fun with yalls goodnes
Is there a flashable zip on here for this yet? Searched everywhere but can't find one.
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Updated the Tmobile 5.0 today, deffeantly tell of the changes. My first problem though was the app updates. They would not up date while the new Google Play Services was updated. I Restarted my phone then unistalled the Google Play Services update to finally get rid of the clash. Just an FYI for yall out there
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Do you have a 0x0 Knox Counter? I'm debating on downloading NK4 and getting COD6 OTA becuase right now it's taking forever to download from sammobile.
KIES
C-4Nati said:
Is there a flashable zip on here for this yet? Searched everywhere but can't find one.
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Use Samsung Kies
good question on the counter, I have restarted my phone and have not seen it, Buuut I did freeze knox though. As far as updating Use Kies took about 10 mins
USB audio?
I got the Lollipop update this morning through T-mobile. It was smooth to update, and I haven't noticed battery issues or anything others had reporter.
However, I was super-excited for Lollipop, because it allows for USB microphones. And I've tried all 5 of the ones I own without success. I tried Samsung support, which was useless. They weren't even aware of the feature.
Do you think it's possible that Samsung or T-mobile bypassed this native feature to Lollipop? I was connecting via OTG cable. I haven't tried mic to powered hub to OTG yet, because I've seen Nexus owners on Lollypop just connect USB microphones via OTG.
I'd be grateful for any advice any of you gurus have out there. I am not rooted or running anything custom. I've been fairly happy with stock. But, like I started with, I was all the while looking forward to this Lollypop update for portable recording via USB. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks.
Downloading as I type...I'm sure I am wasting my time since I been rocking BeanStalk 5.0.2, but my curiosity is making me just give it a look and see how it works. It'll be nice to use the S-Pen features again, but Lollipop without all the bs that samsung and tmo put on there has been nothing short of amazing.
Why have the note 4 when you can have PURE android just like you want with the new 6 inch moto. But whatever guess I will never understand why people will buy a car. Strip it off its goods (rims/system/under the hood upgrades) just to have a classic stripped stock vehicle? I mean already having the features why give then away? I will never understand
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Why have the note 4 when you can have PURE android just like you want with the new 6 inch moto. But whatever guess I will never understand why people will buy a car. Strip it off its goods (rims/system/under the hood upgrades) just to have a classic stripped stock vehicle? I mean already having the features why give then away? I will never understand
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Assuming that you're talking about the Nexus 6/Moto X Pro, there's no need to debate/discuss why I would want TouchWiz on ANY level, which is why I was close to buying a Nexus 6. Honestly though, for me, while the Nexus 6/Moto X Pro isn't a bad phone(they're both really great phones), they lost me with no way to add extra storage or remove your battery if needed. In addition, while I have been running Beanstalk for the last few weeks, I still think the S-Pen is a really great feature to have on the Note 4. There's really no need to go into details about which phone is better, because it will always come down to preference, but in regards to your comment, it's not as stripped down as you present it to be.
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Assuming that you're talking about the Nexus 6/Moto X Pro, there's no need to debate/discuss why I would want TouchWiz on ANY level, which is why I was close to buying a Nexus 6. Honestly though, for me, while the Nexus 6/Moto X Pro isn't a bad phone(they're both really great phones), they lost me with no way to add extra storage or remove your battery if needed. In addition, while I have been running Beanstalk for the last few weeks, I still think the S-Pen is a really great feature to have on the Note 4. There's really no need to go into details about which phone is better, because it will always come down to preference, but in regards to your comment, it's not as stripped down as you present it to be.
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Alright bud. Just saying OK. Don't get like some of the people up in here right away biting haha. Ain't no one saying it with attitude or anything. I just don't get it but now I do ??
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Updated the Tmobile 5.0 today, deffeantly tell of the changes. My first problem though was the app updates. They would not up date while the new Google Play Services was updated. I Restarted my phone then unistalled the Google Play Services update to finally get rid of the clash. Just an FYI for yall out there
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Can I ask how you did that? I upgraded from BeanStalk to stock Lollipop via Kies, but I'm getting force closes on gapps services. Can barely use the phone they are coming in so frequently. What did you do to uninstall gapps and how did you get the correct version installed?
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Alright bud. Just saying OK. Don't get like some of the people up in here right away biting haha. Ain't no one saying it with attitude or anything. I just don't get it but now I do
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No attitude here, everyone is entitled to their opinions. I am certainly not hating on you for what you're saying and personally, in many(maybe most) aspects, those are flat out better phones than the Note 4. I just installed this bs lollipop so now as I type, I am flashing back to BeanStalk. The lack of a removable battery i could live with, but the expandable storage is a necessity for me, the only reason I am staying with the Note 4 since most phones that are coming out are converting to that style.
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Can I ask how you did that? I upgraded from BeanStalk to stock Lollipop via Kies, but I'm getting force closes on gapps services. Can barely use the phone they are coming in so frequently. What did you do to uninstall gapps and how did you get the correct version installed?
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You do not need to install gapps on stock ROMs. They are included. Installing them as a zip will break them. So, factory reset (or fresh install), and don't flash gapps.
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You do not need to install gapps on stock ROMs. They are included. Installing them as a zip will break them. So, factory reset (or fresh install), and don't flash gapps.
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Hey. Thanks for the reply. I actually didn't install gapps over the stock ROM. Not sure what it didn't like installing over Beanstalk. I did a wipe before I installed via kies. Anyway, I resolved by doing a factory reset, like you said. Did two actually. All is well now, thanks.
Hi all,
So I was testing the GN5 and came across a built-in permission manager first thing. Didn't think much of it I mean yes it's a very nice feature and all but then after I had to return the phone, I looked for other references to it online but couldn't find any. It's not available on the Galaxy A8 that's for sure.
So I'm just looking for confirmation that it does indeed exist on every other GN5 out there..
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Hi all,
So I was testing the GN5 and came across a built-in permission manager first thing. Didn't think much of it I mean yes it's a very nice feature and all but then after I had to return the phone, I looked for other references to it online but couldn't find any. It's not available on the Galaxy A8 that's for sure.
So I'm just looking for confirmation that it does indeed exist on every other GN5 out there..
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i can't find it on my note5 N920I so if you could describe how to access it that would be nice
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i can't find it on my note5 N920I so if you could describe how to access it that would be nice
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Should've noted that down... but it pops up by itself either before or after download. Didn't need to set anything before hand. Will see if I can dig up the rom info too... it was a test unit for HK
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yellowchilli said:
Hi all,
So I was testing the GN5 and came across a built-in permission manager first thing. Didn't think much of it I mean yes it's a very nice feature and all but then after I had to return the phone, I looked for other references to it online but couldn't find any. It's not available on the Galaxy A8 that's for sure.
So I'm just looking for confirmation that it does indeed exist on every other GN5 out there..
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That's the only reason I miss aosp or root for. How do you get that? Is it third party app or what? Seems like test build samsung has around for android M update coming soon to note 5.
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Does the phone runs on android 6.0 by any chance?
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He probably came across a test phone of some sort - with Android 6.0
Android definitely needs something like this...
I hate downloading apps that need random permissions for things (Like a photo editor that needs to read my SMS messages) - It creeps me out and is just weird. I'm sure some permissions are innocent and others are malicious.
This feature will definitely help Android!
fail..... of all the screenshots I took I forgot to take one of the build info. is there anywhere on google that might store that? I already checked Play store.. that only remembers my model number.
on my GN5 it was built in. I was setting it up from scratch, installing new apps etc.
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He probably came across a test phone of some sort - with Android 6.0
Android definitely needs something like this...
I hate downloading apps that need random permissions for things (Like a photo editor that needs to read my SMS messages) - It creeps me out and is just weird. I'm sure some permissions are innocent and others are malicious.
This feature will definitely help Android!
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yup I was surprised to see it. I'll see if I can clarify with my PR contact...
I've got Android M on my Nexus 6 and that was pretty buggy. Samsung would've needed a miracle to put their touchwiz on it and maintain such stability at this time so that's highly unlikely.
I am pretty sure that ROM wasn't a 6.0 test rom, but just something Samsung cooked into the Chinese (and HK) ROM... already seen it in some Chinese N9200 before... Could be something unique to said variant, or could be something that can be triggered by change of build file...
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I am pretty sure that ROM wasn't a 6.0 test rom, but just something Samsung cooked into the Chinese (and HK) ROM... already seen it in some Chinese N9200 before... Could be something unique to said variant, or could be something that can be triggered by change of build file...
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Well lg g4 had it cooked un and you could access it by creating widget of activities and sellecting permissions settings but I am not able to find it on this phone
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this function exist in Note 5 Hong Kong version... it will pop out everytime when you install an app.
thank you for clarifying this!
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this function exist in Note 5 Hong Kong version... it will pop out everytime when you install an app.
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Can't wait to get that feature!
Flash Ditto Rom for N5, you will have this feature without Hongkong CSC
Zanr Zij said:
Flash Ditto Rom for N5, you will have this feature without Hongkong CSC
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No root for my Note 5 lol
I am thinking of ordering the enhanced 64GB model from a Chinese seller (ebay or aliexpress). This would be the Chinese model. The sellers state that before shipping they install a multi-language ROM and Google Play, and that it will work no problem on my network (Canada).
Does anyone have experience with ordering such a phone? I have looked at the relevant threads on the forums of other Huawei phones and there seems to sometimes be problems with notifications and Chinese bloatware. I am also unclear whether I can expect to receive future OTA updates?
AFAIK at the moment a P9 Chinese version distribution has not yet been announced... and for the P9 the official availability is tomorrow 16th April.
The P9/P9 Plus presentation has been initially dedicated only to the European market, also prices where indicated in Euro, even if that event was held in London...
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I am thinking of ordering the enhanced 64GB model from a Chinese seller (ebay or aliexpress). This would be the Chinese model. The sellers state that before shipping they install a multi-language ROM and Google Play, and that it will work no problem on my network (Canada).
Does anyone have experience with ordering such a phone? I have looked at the relevant threads on the forums of other Huawei phones and there seems to sometimes be problems with notifications and Chinese bloatware. I am also unclear whether I can expect to receive future OTA updates?
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all I can say is, even with the Chinese ROM, you can get all the google stuff without issues, with the exception being Now on Tap because the Home button is mapped to Huawei's own voice assistant.
i did have some issues with notifs on the Mate 8 but its since received at least 3 updates. My P9 is too new for me to notice any issues
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all I can say is, even with the Chinese ROM, you can get all the google stuff without issues, with the exception being Now on Tap because the Home button is mapped to Huawei's own voice assistant.
i did have some issues with notifs on the Mate 8 but its since received at least 3 updates. My P9 is too new for me to notice any issues
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re: bloatware, it's possible to remove up to 90% of that stuff through "HiApp" - huawei's replacement for google playstore ( which is also where you download all the google stuff)
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all I can say is, even with the Chinese ROM, you can get all the google stuff without issues, with the exception being Now on Tap because the Home button is mapped to Huawei's own voice assistant.
i did have some issues with notifs on the Mate 8 but its since received at least 3 updates. My P9 is too new for me to notice any issues
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re: bloatware, it's possible to remove up to 90% of that stuff through "HiApp" - huawei's replacement for google playstore ( which is also where you download all the google stuff)
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That's great - thanks. My P9 is currently on its way so that's reassuring. I am not bothered about Now on Tap.
Presumably HiApp is in Chinese itself? Is it challenging to navigate around it?
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That's great - thanks. My P9 is currently on its way so that's reassuring. I am not bothered about Now on Tap.
Presumably HiApp is in Chinese itself? Is it challenging to navigate around it?
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it isn't in Chinese.. Once you've chosen English in your first setup step, all system apps show up in English. with the exception of bloatware. I believe there's a guide here on xda some place teaching folks how to download all the google stuff too. basically you'll need google play obviously, google contacts sync and google calendar sync. these are the basics you need to grab off HiApp. Then you can start using Google Playstore as normal to setup account etc
permissions are important as they are very strict and sometimes restrict first, and never ask later. be sure to check there often. Enjoy!
Just Got Mine Yesterday!
My P9 from a shop on aliexpress just came yesterday... and oh yes, it is pretty awesome! Going to use it a couple days and plan on doing a extensive comparison review to my LG G5 in my series of review called "Some Guy's Review..." I did one comparing LG G5 to the S7 Edge and people seemed to appreciate it... I have no brand loyalty so it a pretty honest review IMO
I try to sum up the general user / pro-user experience... what most people run into and care about.... plus stuff I always look for that are my "musts" for things I do in my daily life...
Not getting deeply into it, here's a quick 12-hour impression:
1. Design - It's a pretty phone, I got mine in Gold because the 64GB / 4GB only comes in Gold in China (EVA-AL10 Version is Chinese Version of EVA-L29 International Dual SIM). Let's say a Sony Xperia Z5 and an Iphone had a wild sexual encounter.... the result is a Huawei P9 (Basically an all metal Z5)
2. Snappiness - This phone rocks... didn't slow down even during setup... have yet to notice it heat up either! Have to put it through my grueling non-scientific testing of playing Clash Royale... hahaha. Really though, I won't do a AnTuTu or anything like that because those tests are pretty much meaningless to real world experience usage. Hope to have more later
3. Camera - have yet to take a "real" picture with it... tried it out, seems to have a lot of custom settings and a really good "pro" mode. more to come
4. Battery - seems spot on to all recent Huawei Phones, big, long lasting (that's what she said.... :silly: :good
5. EMUI - I am actually a fan of EMUI... especially with another launcher laid over (I use a HTC Sense Launcher Port). The amount of customization may annoy the regular user... but coming from having a Huawei Mate 8, I understand what you need to do to get everything working like you like. I will give more details later if it suffers from the "sleeping sickness" as I call it... this is where due to all the great battery customizations Huawei throws in, certain app notifications stop working after awhile because the app goes into hibernation and never comes out... time will only tell.
Look for a review probably Monday or Tuesday! I may even do a 3-way just for fun....!!! :good: :highfive: (3-way review... get your mind out of the gutter... hahaha)
I received my eva-dl00 yesterday. (Chinese Dual-Sim 32GB) from Ibuygou.com
Everythings seems to be ok, but Contact Syncing is not working. Any hint?
First impression: Nice phone, very solid quality! But coming from Vanilla....i don´t like EMUI.
Maybe i have to get used to it.
But the P9 with Stock Android would be awesome!
How are u finding notifications inflow? They come on time or with delays?? IMs like Whatsapp Telegram etc giving instant notification even when phone sleeps for 30 plus mins?
Seems to be ok. But it is only a first impression. Could be wrong.
Has anyone from Europe tried if the dual sim works for Chinese version ?
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My P9 from a shop on aliexpress just came yesterday... and oh yes, it is pretty awesome! Going to use it a couple days and plan on doing a extensive comparison review to my LG G5 in my series of review called "Some Guy's Review..." I did one comparing LG G5 to the S7 Edge and people seemed to appreciate it... I have no brand loyalty so it a pretty honest review IMO
I try to sum up the general user / pro-user experience... what most people run into and care about.... plus stuff I always look for that are my "musts" for things I do in my daily life...
Not getting deeply into it, here's a quick 12-hour impression:
1. Design - It's a pretty phone, I got mine in Gold because the 64GB / 4GB only comes in Gold in China (EVA-AL10 Version is Chinese Version of EVA-L29 International Dual SIM). Let's say a Sony Xperia Z5 and an Iphone had a wild sexual encounter.... the result is a Huawei P9 (Basically an all metal Z5)
2. Snappiness - This phone rocks... didn't slow down even during setup... have yet to notice it heat up either! Have to put it through my grueling non-scientific testing of playing Clash Royale... hahaha. Really though, I won't do a AnTuTu or anything like that because those tests are pretty much meaningless to real world experience usage. Hope to have more later
3. Camera - have yet to take a "real" picture with it... tried it out, seems to have a lot of custom settings and a really good "pro" mode. more to come
4. Battery - seems spot on to all recent Huawei Phones, big, long lasting (that's what she said.... :silly: :good
5. EMUI - I am actually a fan of EMUI... especially with another launcher laid over (I use a HTC Sense Launcher Port). The amount of customization may annoy the regular user... but coming from having a Huawei Mate 8, I understand what you need to do to get everything working like you like. I will give more details later if it suffers from the "sleeping sickness" as I call it... this is where due to all the great battery customizations Huawei throws in, certain app notifications stop working after awhile because the app goes into hibernation and never comes out... time will only tell.
Look for a review probably Monday or Tuesday! I may even do a 3-way just for fun....!!! :good: :highfive: (3-way review... get your mind out of the gutter... hahaha)
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I received my eva-dl00 yesterday. (Chinese Dual-Sim 32GB) from Ibuygou.com
Everythings seems to be ok, but Contact Syncing is not working. Any hint?
First impression: Nice phone, very solid quality! But coming from Vanilla....i don´t like EMUI.
Maybe i have to get used to it.
But the P9 with Stock Android would be awesome!
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How are u finding notifications inflow? They come on time or with delays?? IMs like Whatsapp Telegram etc giving instant notification even when phone sleeps for 30 plus mins?
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Seems to be ok. But it is only a first impression. Could be wrong.
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Has anyone from Europe tried if the dual sim works for Chinese version ?
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Posted my review here if interested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/how-to/huawei-p9-vs-tmobile-lg-g5-vs-tmobile-t3365349
I use the eva-dl00 in germany with 2 T-Mobile Sim Cards. Everythings works great. Including LTE.
K-Nose said:
I received my eva-dl00 yesterday. (Chinese Dual-Sim 32GB) from Ibuygou.com
Everythings seems to be ok, but Contact Syncing is not working. Any hint?
First impression: Nice phone, very solid quality! But coming from Vanilla....i don´t like EMUI.
Maybe i have to get used to it.
But the P9 with Stock Android would be awesome!
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must check permissions!
yellowchilli said:
must check permissions!
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im having the same issue i checked the permissions for the contacts and i turned on and still the sync contacts on google accounts its not present like on my nexus 6p
ajftl250 said:
im having the same issue i checked the permissions for the contacts and i turned on and still the sync contacts on google accounts its not present like on my nexus 6p
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reboot after enabling permissions and Contact sync should appear
yellowchilli said:
reboot after enabling permissions and Contact sync should appear
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had to delete the account and create it again pain! worked now
I just got mine today. EVA-AL10. Beautiful phone. Works with cricket no problem... i was trying it out with my verizon sim didnt work. Seems to work well, but some of the stuff are in chinese like browser. Slowly removing the bloat and adding other software to it.
what did everyone end up doing when they first receive the phone? I factory reset it and downloaded google play store from hi app. I needed contacts sync and calendar sync so i downloaded from apk mirror. I downloaded gmail and everything. Its been a while since i came back from droid. I was with apple for a while. Last droid I had was a htc evo. Can't seem to get my contacts on this phone.
strictlys said:
what did everyone end up doing when they first receive the phone? I factory reset it and downloaded google play store from hi app. I needed contacts sync and calendar sync so i downloaded from apk mirror. I downloaded gmail and everything. Its been a while since i came back from droid. I was with apple for a while. Last droid I had was a htc evo. Can't seem to get my contacts on this phone.
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check and allow all permissions for contacta sync, reboot and see.
p. s. contact and calendar sync are both available from hiapp
yellowchilli said:
check and allow all permissions for contacta sync, reboot and see.
p. s. contact and calendar sync are both available from hiapp
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I searched for it numerous times couldn't find it. It works now, but still couldn't find in hiapp.Thanks!
With my Note 7 and its inferior replacement, the S7E, Verizon had loaded both phones up with a plethora of bloatware. On top of what was preinstalled, I'd constantly find new apps magically appearing every so often.
I subsequently learned that the spontaneous new apps were installed without my permission by DT Ignite, malware (IMO) pre-installed by Verizon. Once that was disabled, things quieted down.
My Note 8 that arrived yesterday had far fewer initial crapware games and apps, and I can't find any evidence of DT Ignite in the Apps Manager. Has Verizon finally smartened up, or do you think they'll find another way to pollute our phones?
Dodge DeBoulet said:
With my Note 7 and its inferior replacement, the S7E, Verizon had loaded both phones up with a plethora of bloatware. On top of what was preinstalled, I'd constantly find new apps magically appearing every so often.
I subsequently learned that the spontaneous new apps were installed without my permission by DT Ignite, malware (IMO) pre-installed by Verizon. Once that was disabled, things quieted down.
My Note 8 that arrived yesterday had far fewer initial crapware games and apps, and I can't find any evidence of DT Ignite in the Apps Manager. Has Verizon finally smartened up, or do you think they'll find another way to pollute our phones?
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Dt ignite is still there what i did was download Ignition Test from the play store and it will find it and disable it
djquestt said:
Dt ignite is still there what i did was download Ignition Test from the play store and it will find it and disable it
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Remind me again what is dt ignite
djquestt said:
Dt ignite is still there what i did was download Ignition Test from the play store and it will find it and disable it
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Thanks, DT Ignition did find it ... it's now called something generic like "Mobile Services." But it's gone now.
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Remind me again what is dt ignite
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It's a background app installed by carriers that will download and install games and apps on your phone whether you want them or not. It's very annoying to purge your phone of bloatware only to see it come back mysteriously by itself.
jackdforme said:
Remind me again what is dt ignite
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Its a scumbag move by carriers that installs crap on your phone without your permission. It's also the first thing I disable.
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I just learned something new...thanks!
I was thinking that there wasn't much bloat ware on my new Verizon N8 but now you have me worried there are other hidden gems. What else is anyone removing/disabling
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Dt ignite is still there what i did was download Ignition Test from the play store and it will find it and disable it
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Dodge DeBoulet said:
Thanks, DT Ignition did find it ... it's now called something generic like "Mobile Services." But it's gone now.
It's a background app installed by carriers that will download and install games and apps on your phone whether you want them or not. It's very annoying to purge your phone of bloatware only to see it come back mysteriously by itself.
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Is this it?
skillzo1 said:
Is this it?
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Yessir, that's the one.
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Yessir, that's the one.
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Thank you
jrapps said:
I just learned something new...thanks!
I was thinking that there wasn't much bloat ware on my new Verizon N8 but now you have me worried there are other hidden gems. What else is anyone removing/disabling
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I had used PDP (Package Disabler Pro) to disable nearly everything it recommended on my Note 7 and the S7E that replaced it, at least until Nougat was released. After the upgrade PDP didn't work anymore, but I pretty much knew what to disable by then and DT Ignite was at the top of my list. Nothing came back after I shut that down, and the 2 or 3 security updates VZW has pushed since then didn't re-enable it.
I'm cautiously optimistic that the Note 8 will stay fairly clean ... at least until Oreo is released for the N8.
et t-mobile tu, brute?
interesting discussion chaps.
i know this is a VZW thread and i apologize for the intercept, but is tmobile likely doing the same thing?
would this ignition program find such apps on t mobile? i get the note8 friday from tmobile (my other phones are unlocked non carrier version so this is the first time ill need to look for stuff like this)
Funny I was just about to post a thread "what bloat ware should I get rid of on Verizon note 8?" This is a good start ☺
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Dodge DeBoulet said:
I had used PDP (Package Disabler Pro) to disable nearly everything it recommended on my Note 7 and the S7E that replaced it, at least until Nougat was released. After the upgrade PDP didn't work anymore, but I pretty much knew what to disable by then and DT Ignite was at the top of my list. Nothing came back after I shut that down, and the 2 or 3 security updates VZW has pushed since then didn't re-enable it.
I'm cautiously optimistic that the Note 8 will stay fairly clean ... at least until Oreo is released for the N8.
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Are these package disablers worth getting? Or is it just as easy as turning off apps?
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MACHEK said:
Funny I was just about to post a thread "what bloat ware should I get rid of on Verizon note 8?" This is a good start ☺
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Are these package disablers worth getting? Or is it just as easy as turning off apps?
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Most of the totally useless crapware cannot be disabled without a package disabler app
FWIW, the one I usually use (Package Disabler Pro) is not working on my Note FE, but, BK Disabler is.
I'd say it's well worth the couple of dollars vs dealing with unwanted bloat ware...
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I avoid disabling anything to avoid issues when updates are pushed - I never disabled DT Ignite on my VZW S8 and I never had anything pushed on my phone. Also if you don't want to be tracked, you're using the wrong operating system to begin with.
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I avoid disabling anything to avoid issues when updates are pushed - I never disabled DT Ignite on my VZW S8 and I never had anything pushed on my phone. Also if you don't want to be tracked, you're using the wrong operating system to begin with.
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Good for you, seriously, but that wasn't my experience. I'd wake up to new, unwanted games and apps on my Note 7 and S7 Edge pretty regularly. And after disabling DT Ignite, I never had a problem with any of the updates, including the Nougat release for the S7E. I had to disable DT Ignite again after that installed, but the 3 security updates since have all installed just fine.
Not sure if this is the right place but here it goes. I actually use some VZW stuff. I like the native VZW to VZW video calling. I also love the VZW premium visual voicemail. The VZW cloud is handy, but I can do without.
Anyone know how I get this stuff?
You mean on a non Verizon issued Note 8 or something?
Not bloatware, but I'm pissed ours didn't get the upgrade for the swipe down on homescreen bringing down notifications rather than a 2nd app drawer command.
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I just got off the phone with VZW. My HD calling, video calling and visual voicemail isn't working. Not sure if the CSR was right, but she said there is an advance calling setting on the VZW N8 that I couldn't find on my unlocked Sammy N8. I have seen it before on my S8+ so I know What she is talking about.
I said maybe mine isn't provisioned correctly. She said she wasn't sure. I am going to call back tomorrow to speak with tech support
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You mean on a non Verizon issued Note 8 or something?
Not bloatware, but I'm pissed ours didn't get the upgrade for the swipe down on homescreen bringing down notifications rather than a 2nd app drawer command.
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If you really want it, Nova Launcher can do this. I actually prefer using the fingerprint reader for this, though, and you don't need Nova Launcher for it (although I'd rather have Nova Launcher than not).
Yes action launcher does too but the Note is the only phone I usually use the default launcher with. The sensor isn't convenient to me yet.
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I just replaced the Google Pixel 2 xl with Note 9
So far, I like this phone.
I'd like to ask you guys, if it would be worth to root the phone and install a custom ROM / kernel
I can't see a percentage for the brightness, which is annoying, and the clock is on the left, I'd like to have it centered or on the right
With a good kernel, would it help to improve the battery life?
Thank you very much, in advance, any advices are welcome
With Samsung once you root and trip Knox you can't go back to stock - ever. And some apps will not work anymore. This is actually my first phone where I haven't seen any need for root anyway.
Take a look at good lock, with it you can customize allmost everything, incl. clock postition.
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I just replaced the Google Pixel 2 xl with Note 9
So far, I like this phone.
I'd like to ask you guys, if it would be worth to root the phone and install a custom ROM / kernel
I can't see a percentage for the brightness, which is annoying, and the clock is on the left, I'd like to have it centered or on the right
With a good kernel, would it help to improve the battery life?
Thank you very much, in advance, any advices are welcome
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latest july build seems to have decent battery without the need to root.
also using samsung goodlock and its various components, you will be able to do a lot of stuff that were only possible on a rooted device. such as move clock position and much more UIwise.
for brightness % sorry never seen that.
so play around with all the goodlock addons 1st and see if its worthing staying on stock. as you know rooting will kill Spay...so
( i can never stay on stock since its much to fun to flash roms every now and then)
What exactly is good lock?
Where do can I find this app? @Bober, I always had a percentage on the brightness, on the Pixel 2 xl ( root / custom Rom)
There must be a way for this
Thank you, guys
LE : i never used an Android phone, with stock...
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What exactly is good lock?
Where do can I find this app? @Bober, I always had a percentage on the brightness, on the Pixel 2 xl ( root / custom Rom)
There must be a way for this
Thank you, guys
LE : i never used an Android phone, with stock...
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goodlock can be found on the Samsung store.
there is also an alternative called nicelock in the guides forum.
basically goodlock in it self is nothing but a downloader/manager or various plugins. they are the ones that modd the system.
Thank you very much, bober
Do I have to remove the simcard, when I do this??
I'm from Europe - Germany
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Thank you very much, bober
Do I have to remove the simcard, when I do this??
I'm from Europe - Germany
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for what?
to install goodlock? if you dont see it in the samsung store then try:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-nicelock-goodlock-2019-launcher-pie-t3908648
sometimes apps are available by region. so using nicelock should bypass this.
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What exactly is good lock?
Where do can I find this app? @Bober, I always had a percentage on the brightness, on the Pixel 2 xl ( root / custom Rom)
There must be a way for this
Thank you, guys
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Go to settings-Notifications-Status bar-Show battery percentage
Edit: sorry, misread that...not sure about brightness percentage!
Battery percentage?
Did you read exactly my post?!
LE : i installed NiceLock but when I try to install something from the menu, I can't
Not available in my country....
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Battery percentage?
Did you read exactly my post?!
LE : i installed NiceLock but when I try to install something from the menu, I can't
Not available in my country....
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really, i thought that was the purpous of nicelock, to bypasse that issue. post on the nice lock thread. sure someone has insight on that.
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NICELOCK
Good Lock 2019 Launcher
What is NiceLock?
This app is only an alternative to main Good Lock app for the regions that it is officially unavailable.
This app only acts as a launcher for modules.
That's why I asked about removing the SIM
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That's why I asked about removing the SIM
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try it i guess.
I tried but I can't install anything from NiceLock
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I tried but I can't install anything from NiceLock
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then i really dont know...did you post here for help?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-nicelock-goodlock-2019-launcher-pie-t3908648
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That's why I asked about removing the SIM
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uninstall nicelock an try this method which worked for me.
1. remove the sim.
2. uninstall samsung store
3. restart the phone.
4 open the vpn app and select US .
5. open samsung store , download the app update and than install goodlock.
6. open goodlock and install the apps-plugins ( download all of them and later you can uninstall unwanted ones).
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nex_t said:
I just replaced the Google Pixel 2 xl with Note 9
So far, I like this phone.
I'd like to ask you guys, if it would be worth to root the phone and install a custom ROM / kernel
I can't see a percentage for the brightness, which is annoying, and the clock is on the left, I'd like to have it centered or on the right
With a good kernel, would it help to improve the battery life?
Thank you very much, in advance, any advices are welcome
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im dealing with theis question myself, i have a korean version - n960n and im having some network connection problems ( i live in midle east which has different bands), and the super late updates from samsung for this model, im still in April security update.
other than this i really dont see the need for root-custom rom for my phone.
i will wait till the end of this month and see.
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uninstall nicelock an try this method which worked for me.
1. remove the sim.
2. uninstall samsung store
3. restart the phone.
4 open the vpn app and select US .
5. open samsung store , download the app update and than install goodlock.
6. open goodlock and install the apps-plugins ( download all of them and later you can uninstall unwanted ones).
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im dealing with theis question myself, i have a korean version - n960n and im having some network connection problems ( i live in midle east which has different bands), and the super late updates from samsung for this model, im still in April security update.
other than this i really dont see the need for root-custom rom for my phone.
i will wait till the end of this month and see.
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you should be on may release. manually download it and flash it with Odin.
I'm in the same boat here and am quite surprised by it. I ALWAYS root my phone, first thing, asap. I specifically bought the exynos version of the N9 so I could root. But after playing with it I find myself wondering why I need root.
Ad blocking - kind of miss this but using Brave browser mostly fixes that.
Customization - GoodLock is AWESOME. Takes place of rom customizations and Tasker, which was a must have for me.
Call recording seems to work, which it didn't on my Pixel.
Get to keep Samsung pay, which is much better than Google pay. And secure folder is a lot better than the name suggests, since it provides doubles if apps allowing multiple active logins.
Someone convinced me why I need to root this phone??
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I'm in the same boat here and am quite surprised by it. I ALWAYS root my phone, first thing, asap. I specifically bought the exynos version of the N9 so I could root. But after playing with it I find myself wondering why I need root.
Ad blocking - kind of miss this but using Brave browser mostly fixes that.
Customization - GoodLock is AWESOME. Takes place of rom customizations and Tasker, which was a must have for me.
Call recording seems to work, which it didn't on my Pixel.
Get to keep Samsung pay, which is much better than Google pay. And secure folder is a lot better than the name suggests, since it provides doubles if apps allowing multiple active logins.
Someone convinced me why I need to root this phone??
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to have fun with it and try new things. ( i get bored fast and quickly want more)
if you want to use the phone within the allowed parameters and not want anything more than you already have, than don't root. because the 1st thing happens when you root is that knox fuse gets tripped and apps relying on the device's security integrity will stop trusting it and fail to work. but apart from S pay you can get prety much all apps working one way or an other on a rooted phone just as a stock one would.( lately secure folder was found to work! thx dr
.ketan). people have turned to google pay instead of S pay.
but i do understand that its like: why break what's not broken?
some of us like the freedom and ability to do more. its not essential but since we own the device i guess our though process is what can we do to get even more out of this device.( price is not cheap so we need a reason to justify having bought it guess and have our money's worth ! lol )
but it is true. with good lock the visual aspect that was once one of the big reasons of rooting is now less and less of a reason. same goes with themes as well. nice alternatives to the stock themes and store bought ones like the wonderfull app: #hex ( xda made! search for it here and on playstore) allows you to theme. it has slimmed the gap even more between the need to root and not having to.
one aspect though that is important is being able to remove content and aslo add content like unsupported region carrier specific features eg:CSC , i put canadian CSC on my n960n.( somewill argue rhat if i had bought the canadian variant i would not need to do this. but the other reasons outlined in this message outweighs this.)
all in all im happy with my decision. and i have no trouble understanding that you or others are also quite happy with not having rooted.
what is good is that rooting has put pressure and have given samsung and other device companies examples and insight on what the community wants. by rooting and modding the device we show exactly what we need/want. and the result ( goodlock and other additions) that are aosp inspired has really made the device shine and be an attractive experiance to the general public and rooted user alike.
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to have fun with it and try new things. ( i get bored fast and quickly want more)
if you want to use the phone within the allowed parameters and not want anything more than you already have, than don't root. because the 1st thing happens when you root is that knox fuse gets tripped and apps relying on the device's security integrity will stop trusting it and fail to work. but apart from S pay you can get prety much all apps working one way or an other on a rooted phone just as a stock one would.( lately secure folder was found to work! thx dr
.ketan). people have turned to google pay instead of S pay.
but i do understand that its like: why break what's not broken?
some of us like the freedom and ability to do more. its not essential but since we own the device i guess our though process is what can we do to get even more out of this device.( price is not cheap so we need a reason to justify having bought it guess and have our money's worth ! lol )
but it is true. with good lock the visual aspect that was once one of the big reasons of rooting is now less and less of a reason. same goes with themes as well. nice alternatives to the stock themes and store bought ones like the wonderfull app: #hex ( xda made! search for it here and on playstore) allows you to theme. it has slimmed the gap even more between the need to root and not having to.
one aspect though that is important is being able to remove content and aslo add content like unsupported region carrier specific features eg:CSC , i put canadian CSC on my n960n.( somewill argue rhat if i had bought the canadian variant i would not need to do this. but the other reasons outlined in this message outweighs this.)
all in all im happy with my decision. and i have no trouble understanding that you or others are also quite happy with not having rooted.
what is good is that rooting has put pressure and have given samsung and other device companies examples and insight on what the community wants. by rooting and modding the device we show exactly what we need/want. and the result ( goodlock and other additions) that are aosp inspired has really made the device shine and be an attractive experiance to the general public and rooted user alike.
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I've definitely rooted a bunch of phones. Every phone in my signature that could be rooted, and many friends phones etc. I've been a huge proponent of root. This phone just seems to not need it, at least not yet at this point. When sammy stops pushing updates in timely manner I will probably reconsider.
You are absolutely right that root, and the xda community in particular, has really pushed OEMs to make things better. Its great progress.
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goodlock can be found on the Samsung store.
there is also an alternative called nicelock in the guides forum.
basically goodlock in it self is nothing but a downloader/manager or various plugins. they are the ones that modd the system.
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What customizations are you using on your status bar?