I just replaced the Google Pixel 2 xl with Note 9
So far, I like this phone.
I'd like to ask you guys, if it would be worth to root the phone and install a custom ROM / kernel
I can't see a percentage for the brightness, which is annoying, and the clock is on the left, I'd like to have it centered or on the right
With a good kernel, would it help to improve the battery life?
Thank you very much, in advance, any advices are welcome
With Samsung once you root and trip Knox you can't go back to stock - ever. And some apps will not work anymore. This is actually my first phone where I haven't seen any need for root anyway.
Take a look at good lock, with it you can customize allmost everything, incl. clock postition.
nex_t said:
I just replaced the Google Pixel 2 xl with Note 9
So far, I like this phone.
I'd like to ask you guys, if it would be worth to root the phone and install a custom ROM / kernel
I can't see a percentage for the brightness, which is annoying, and the clock is on the left, I'd like to have it centered or on the right
With a good kernel, would it help to improve the battery life?
Thank you very much, in advance, any advices are welcome
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latest july build seems to have decent battery without the need to root.
also using samsung goodlock and its various components, you will be able to do a lot of stuff that were only possible on a rooted device. such as move clock position and much more UIwise.
for brightness % sorry never seen that.
so play around with all the goodlock addons 1st and see if its worthing staying on stock. as you know rooting will kill Spay...so
( i can never stay on stock since its much to fun to flash roms every now and then)
What exactly is good lock?
Where do can I find this app? @Bober, I always had a percentage on the brightness, on the Pixel 2 xl ( root / custom Rom)
There must be a way for this
Thank you, guys
LE : i never used an Android phone, with stock...
nex_t said:
What exactly is good lock?
Where do can I find this app? @Bober, I always had a percentage on the brightness, on the Pixel 2 xl ( root / custom Rom)
There must be a way for this
Thank you, guys
LE : i never used an Android phone, with stock...
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goodlock can be found on the Samsung store.
there is also an alternative called nicelock in the guides forum.
basically goodlock in it self is nothing but a downloader/manager or various plugins. they are the ones that modd the system.
Thank you very much, bober
Do I have to remove the simcard, when I do this??
I'm from Europe - Germany
nex_t said:
Thank you very much, bober
Do I have to remove the simcard, when I do this??
I'm from Europe - Germany
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for what?
to install goodlock? if you dont see it in the samsung store then try:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-nicelock-goodlock-2019-launcher-pie-t3908648
sometimes apps are available by region. so using nicelock should bypass this.
nex_t said:
What exactly is good lock?
Where do can I find this app? @Bober, I always had a percentage on the brightness, on the Pixel 2 xl ( root / custom Rom)
There must be a way for this
Thank you, guys
LE : i never used an Android phone, with stock...
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Go to settings-Notifications-Status bar-Show battery percentage
Edit: sorry, misread that...not sure about brightness percentage!
Battery percentage?
Did you read exactly my post?!
LE : i installed NiceLock but when I try to install something from the menu, I can't
Not available in my country....
nex_t said:
Battery percentage?
Did you read exactly my post?!
LE : i installed NiceLock but when I try to install something from the menu, I can't
Not available in my country....
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really, i thought that was the purpous of nicelock, to bypasse that issue. post on the nice lock thread. sure someone has insight on that.
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NICELOCK
Good Lock 2019 Launcher
What is NiceLock?
This app is only an alternative to main Good Lock app for the regions that it is officially unavailable.
This app only acts as a launcher for modules.
That's why I asked about removing the SIM
nex_t said:
That's why I asked about removing the SIM
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try it i guess.
I tried but I can't install anything from NiceLock
nex_t said:
I tried but I can't install anything from NiceLock
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then i really dont know...did you post here for help?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-nicelock-goodlock-2019-launcher-pie-t3908648
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That's why I asked about removing the SIM
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uninstall nicelock an try this method which worked for me.
1. remove the sim.
2. uninstall samsung store
3. restart the phone.
4 open the vpn app and select US .
5. open samsung store , download the app update and than install goodlock.
6. open goodlock and install the apps-plugins ( download all of them and later you can uninstall unwanted ones).
7. insert sim and restart .....
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nex_t said:
I just replaced the Google Pixel 2 xl with Note 9
So far, I like this phone.
I'd like to ask you guys, if it would be worth to root the phone and install a custom ROM / kernel
I can't see a percentage for the brightness, which is annoying, and the clock is on the left, I'd like to have it centered or on the right
With a good kernel, would it help to improve the battery life?
Thank you very much, in advance, any advices are welcome
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im dealing with theis question myself, i have a korean version - n960n and im having some network connection problems ( i live in midle east which has different bands), and the super late updates from samsung for this model, im still in April security update.
other than this i really dont see the need for root-custom rom for my phone.
i will wait till the end of this month and see.
ubejd said:
uninstall nicelock an try this method which worked for me.
1. remove the sim.
2. uninstall samsung store
3. restart the phone.
4 open the vpn app and select US .
5. open samsung store , download the app update and than install goodlock.
6. open goodlock and install the apps-plugins ( download all of them and later you can uninstall unwanted ones).
7. insert sim and restart .....
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im dealing with theis question myself, i have a korean version - n960n and im having some network connection problems ( i live in midle east which has different bands), and the super late updates from samsung for this model, im still in April security update.
other than this i really dont see the need for root-custom rom for my phone.
i will wait till the end of this month and see.
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you should be on may release. manually download it and flash it with Odin.
I'm in the same boat here and am quite surprised by it. I ALWAYS root my phone, first thing, asap. I specifically bought the exynos version of the N9 so I could root. But after playing with it I find myself wondering why I need root.
Ad blocking - kind of miss this but using Brave browser mostly fixes that.
Customization - GoodLock is AWESOME. Takes place of rom customizations and Tasker, which was a must have for me.
Call recording seems to work, which it didn't on my Pixel.
Get to keep Samsung pay, which is much better than Google pay. And secure folder is a lot better than the name suggests, since it provides doubles if apps allowing multiple active logins.
Someone convinced me why I need to root this phone??
ThePublisher said:
I'm in the same boat here and am quite surprised by it. I ALWAYS root my phone, first thing, asap. I specifically bought the exynos version of the N9 so I could root. But after playing with it I find myself wondering why I need root.
Ad blocking - kind of miss this but using Brave browser mostly fixes that.
Customization - GoodLock is AWESOME. Takes place of rom customizations and Tasker, which was a must have for me.
Call recording seems to work, which it didn't on my Pixel.
Get to keep Samsung pay, which is much better than Google pay. And secure folder is a lot better than the name suggests, since it provides doubles if apps allowing multiple active logins.
Someone convinced me why I need to root this phone??
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to have fun with it and try new things. ( i get bored fast and quickly want more)
if you want to use the phone within the allowed parameters and not want anything more than you already have, than don't root. because the 1st thing happens when you root is that knox fuse gets tripped and apps relying on the device's security integrity will stop trusting it and fail to work. but apart from S pay you can get prety much all apps working one way or an other on a rooted phone just as a stock one would.( lately secure folder was found to work! thx dr
.ketan). people have turned to google pay instead of S pay.
but i do understand that its like: why break what's not broken?
some of us like the freedom and ability to do more. its not essential but since we own the device i guess our though process is what can we do to get even more out of this device.( price is not cheap so we need a reason to justify having bought it guess and have our money's worth ! lol )
but it is true. with good lock the visual aspect that was once one of the big reasons of rooting is now less and less of a reason. same goes with themes as well. nice alternatives to the stock themes and store bought ones like the wonderfull app: #hex ( xda made! search for it here and on playstore) allows you to theme. it has slimmed the gap even more between the need to root and not having to.
one aspect though that is important is being able to remove content and aslo add content like unsupported region carrier specific features eg:CSC , i put canadian CSC on my n960n.( somewill argue rhat if i had bought the canadian variant i would not need to do this. but the other reasons outlined in this message outweighs this.)
all in all im happy with my decision. and i have no trouble understanding that you or others are also quite happy with not having rooted.
what is good is that rooting has put pressure and have given samsung and other device companies examples and insight on what the community wants. by rooting and modding the device we show exactly what we need/want. and the result ( goodlock and other additions) that are aosp inspired has really made the device shine and be an attractive experiance to the general public and rooted user alike.
bober10113 said:
to have fun with it and try new things. ( i get bored fast and quickly want more)
if you want to use the phone within the allowed parameters and not want anything more than you already have, than don't root. because the 1st thing happens when you root is that knox fuse gets tripped and apps relying on the device's security integrity will stop trusting it and fail to work. but apart from S pay you can get prety much all apps working one way or an other on a rooted phone just as a stock one would.( lately secure folder was found to work! thx dr
.ketan). people have turned to google pay instead of S pay.
but i do understand that its like: why break what's not broken?
some of us like the freedom and ability to do more. its not essential but since we own the device i guess our though process is what can we do to get even more out of this device.( price is not cheap so we need a reason to justify having bought it guess and have our money's worth ! lol )
but it is true. with good lock the visual aspect that was once one of the big reasons of rooting is now less and less of a reason. same goes with themes as well. nice alternatives to the stock themes and store bought ones like the wonderfull app: #hex ( xda made! search for it here and on playstore) allows you to theme. it has slimmed the gap even more between the need to root and not having to.
one aspect though that is important is being able to remove content and aslo add content like unsupported region carrier specific features eg:CSC , i put canadian CSC on my n960n.( somewill argue rhat if i had bought the canadian variant i would not need to do this. but the other reasons outlined in this message outweighs this.)
all in all im happy with my decision. and i have no trouble understanding that you or others are also quite happy with not having rooted.
what is good is that rooting has put pressure and have given samsung and other device companies examples and insight on what the community wants. by rooting and modding the device we show exactly what we need/want. and the result ( goodlock and other additions) that are aosp inspired has really made the device shine and be an attractive experiance to the general public and rooted user alike.
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I've definitely rooted a bunch of phones. Every phone in my signature that could be rooted, and many friends phones etc. I've been a huge proponent of root. This phone just seems to not need it, at least not yet at this point. When sammy stops pushing updates in timely manner I will probably reconsider.
You are absolutely right that root, and the xda community in particular, has really pushed OEMs to make things better. Its great progress.
bober10113 said:
goodlock can be found on the Samsung store.
there is also an alternative called nicelock in the guides forum.
basically goodlock in it self is nothing but a downloader/manager or various plugins. they are the ones that modd the system.
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What customizations are you using on your status bar?
Related
I bought an HTC Desire 510 few months ago cause my Xperia ARC died (was the best phone I ever had).
Now I am very disappointed with the HTC 510, mainly cause of it's awful operating system bundled by google ALL OVER the place
The user interface is a one big disaster, so much annoying and unnecessary stuff... besides the annoying bloatware (parental control app? srsly?)
I really wanna root this phone and change it's OS to those similar of gingerbreed, cyanogen etc but I don't know how to do this with my current phone
and don't even know what custom operating systems are available for the model I have.
What annoys me about the user interface:
*Often lowers the earphone music volume without my permission then gives me this annoying warning that making it higher will damage my hearing - srsly?
*Screen tends to lower it's lighting and back again by itself while I use the phone
*A button at the bottom of the menu that looks like a "home logo" will open somekind of useless google page each time I drag that button up by mistake.
*Terrible and irremovable Gallery app, not to mention it displays images in uncomfortable way, it also features a slideshow which often plays automatically without me asking it to each time I enter a photo album.
*Poorly made irremovable alarm clock app
*Other forced google apps installed on my phone which i don't use and can't just get rid of
*Bad just bad option of organizing apps, well for me atleast, back on my Xperia ARC I used to organize my apps by "commonly used apps" feature, went great, here it's just wacky, it doesn't do it automatically after you set it to organize the following way. So I find myself surfing through all the useless apps to find the app I need at the app menu.
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
horrific google product
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Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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VigiDroid said:
Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
Sent from my HTC_0PCV2 using XDA Free mobile app
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Beggars can't be choosers. Of course this person is trying to be both.
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I bought an HTC Desire 510
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
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doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you.
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Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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All I can say (and I never said it was easy) is for you to subscribe to all of the HTC 510 Forums and start reading thru the threads. In your case, the most helpful one being this one..."Help & Troubleshooting" if you can not find answers to your particular questions then I would assume that means we just aren't there yet. This is a pretty new device after all. I wouldnt know about themes being I am on custom ROM and that is not an option. You should maybe go for the Unlock and root your phone method. Try out some of the ROMs available. I believe that will alleviate many of your issues since the stock ROM that came with these units have multiple issues. Many of them are the same ones you are experiencing. I wish you well and Read, Read, Read.
Good Luck
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Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now? I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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You should definitely read through the forums if you haven't so far. I have read/skimmed every thread here about our phone and I almost have no questions or concerns except for some ideas for a couple of issues that haven't been brought up yet or just not yet done.
I only use Sense Home or Dodol Launcher and they both don't have the option to sort by last used, check out Nova, Apex, or some other launcher.
As far as the update is concerned, you can follow this post by LarryBoyG, if you plan to stay on stock. I'm sure a custom ROM will be built that includes the update, unless everyone just wants to wait for Lollipop.
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
CheesyNutz said:
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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Well I found this http://www.rootupdate.com/2016/08/root-samsung-galaxy-note-7-without-pc.html?m=1 and it says Chainfire has a root file for it. It doesn't specify the carrier or anything but there's hope I guess
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Well I found this http://www.rootupdate.com/2016/08/root-samsung-galaxy-note-7-without-pc.html?m=1 and it says Chainfire has a root file for it. It doesn't specify the carrier or anything but there's hope I guess
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yep i hope its that easy lol
i'm going to guess the bootloader is locked like the s7 edge. hopefully it's not too long before we have a exploit to root.
CheesyNutz said:
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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It's called KNOX, also you don't need root to remove bloat on android 5+. Some will argue for space purposes but the system parition is just that, chances are if you simply cannot uninstall and you have to disable, then the application resides in the system parition. Deleting app in the system partion creates no more useable user space.
As far as Knox, what makes you want to remove it?
I'm waiting to see before buying
With the evolution technology and the reliance on mobile devices, Having KNOX is not as bad as it seems, the piece of mind knowing I have access to defense grade mobile security is great for a business and general security aspect. which goes far past fingerprints and basic passwords. Just my opinion....
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With the evolution technology and the reliance on mobile devices, Having KNOX is not as bad as it seems, the piece of mind knowing I have access to defense grade mobile security is great for a business and general security aspect. which goes far past fingerprints and basic passwords. Just my opinion....
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The golden question is, is there a back door to the iron gates of KNOX? On the front end it can be encrypted to the moon and back, but if there is a back door, it's pointless. Also with finger print scanners and the iris scanner. What a convenient way to capture personal data. Let the people do the work for them...brilliant.
I'm curious to hear what Dev's that know the in's and out's of the software have to say about this...The only way we'd be able to know for sure is if it was fully open source to be able to see any hidden doors and where they exist.
Just saying...
Oh and I do hope someone finds an exploit to be able to stably root.
I keep coming back to these threads day after day, fingers crossed. I can't stomack paying $900 for a device that I don't have full control over. Might as well by an iPhone with the better OS with the way Samsung is moving.
Just does not make any sense to increase the price for less functionality
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I keep coming back to these threads day after day, fingers crossed. I can't stomack paying $900 for a device that I don't have full control over. Might as well by an iPhone with the better OS with the way Samsung is moving.
Just does not make any sense to increase the price for less functionality
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So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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xposed installer that's one
Kind of crazy to decide to buy or not buy a phone because of an ap that doesn't even come installed on the phone. IN any event, if ROOT is found for the Note 7 - then you can install Xposed)
Chances are very high that the US Varients of the Note 7 are all going to be locked. I will be shocked if TMOBILE does not lock down the Note 7 like they did on the S7 (well if you listen to TMOBILE they say Samsung locked it - not tmobile) whatever, my bet is it is going to be locked.
In any event, the Note 7 is going to be a beast of a phone - just like the S7 Edge -BUT, not much different than the 7 Edge - a little larger - slightly better camera - S Pen of course - but otherwise, not a whole lot different - that is probably the main reason why I am struggling with whether to buy or not - I played with one at Best Buy the other day and I like the feel of Note 7 a lot - the curved screen is slightly different than the S7 Edge - but it still looks amazing - not sure what I am going to do.....we'll see....I love new toys - for that reason alone, I will probably end up getting it - but still havent made a final decision....I will NOT buy a pre-order like I have done with every other phone since the note 2 - I got burned when the S7 Edge turned out to be locked and I am not going to risk that again ...we'll find out soon enough...
Yea it sure is a toss up at this point and Samsung if you are listening, you are not doing yourself a favor for locking boot loaders. You don't have to worry about anything, because you'll still make the sales off of the majority who don't care about unlocked BL's, but one thing that you do have to understated is that although the phone enthusiasts may make up a small percentage, we are the ones who are responsible for making up the foundation of the phone customizing culture. You are on the edge and about to lower yourself into the apple territory. Don't do that.
S7 and S7 edge both not rootable?
vibrantliker said:
S7 and S7 edge both not rootable?
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They are rooted at the moment...
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Would a root for the Note 7 cause the iris / finger scanner & Pay apps to stop working or is that just for samsung pay? I ordered my Note 7 yesterday knowing that I probably won't see root for a while, but I don't know if it's worth it if root breaks some of the other functions. At least for me...
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xposed installer that's one
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Xposed is hardly a reason to make the low fruit argument of it might as well be an apple if you can't root it. The fact that I can upload whatever files I want, I can OTG connect keyboards, mice, thumbdrives, expandable memory was brought back, replacement launchers, I can install apps outside of the market, disabled built in software, change what app handles your messages.
Inherently there is so much more flexibility in android. You could drop android back two version numbers and functionality still holds its own against iOS today
All that happens before root.
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coretech said:
Would a root for the Note 7 cause the iris / finger scanner & Pay apps to stop working or is that just for samsung pay? I ordered my Note 7 yesterday knowing that I probably won't see root for a while, but I don't know if it's worth it if root breaks some of the other functions. At least for me...
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If its like the Note 5 when it comes to root (if you can) then it will only kill Samsung Pay. Of course there were other devices (S5/6?) that lost finger print scanning because of the root method. We kind of just have to wait and see.
bajasur said:
They are rooted at the moment...
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I don't see any roms for them on XDA (T-Mob)
clockedtouch said:
So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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I know you weren't talking to me but in my own personal opinion "less functionality" (A.k.a. without root)
means
I cannot control the CPU frequency or GPU, or the governor.
I cannot change the boot animation
I cannot use xposed
I cannot do whatever I want
I cannot tweak what I want for better performance or battery life
I cannot have custom ROMs
I cannot be able to show off my device like "I got root!"
I cannot disable some of the bloat ware that the system does not let me disable by default
I cannot calm my "they are spying on me" by uninstalling sketchy as hell apps or useless that just drain my battery
I cannot not just be bored and test out a **** load of ROMs or Root applications
I cannot have my snapchat mods/hacks
I cannot (Before I actually got YouTube Red) use xposed to make YouTube play in the background
I cannot decompile system applications and re-write some of it or re-theme it and then put it on my phone
I cannot be nerdy and make my my device seem like a samsung s5 or whatever other device I want by changing things such as the model ID and such
I cannot change my IMEI when I don't want to call MetroPCS but I need to test a different SIM card
I cannot have Automatic call recording (Or call recording at all, on stock without root)
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And so much more but then I realized this post is going to get too long and time consuming
TL;DR:
Root is a requirement in my eyes.
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I don't see any roms for them on XDA (T-Mob)
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Andrew S.S. said:
I know you weren't talking to me but in my own personal opinion "less functionality" (A.k.a. without root)
means
I cannot control the CPU frequency or GPU, or the governor.
I cannot change the boot animation
I cannot use xposed
I cannot do whatever I want
I cannot tweak what I want for better performance or battery life
I cannot have custom ROMs
I cannot be able to show off my device like "I got root!"
I cannot disable some of the bloat ware that the system does not let me disable by default
I cannot calm my "they are spying on me" by uninstalling sketchy as hell apps or useless that just drain my battery
I cannot not just be bored and test out a **** load of ROMs or Root applications
I cannot have my snapchat mods/hacks
I cannot (Before I actually got YouTube Red) use xposed to make YouTube play in the background
I cannot decompile system applications and re-write some of it or re-theme it and then put it on my phone
I cannot be nerdy and make my my device seem like a samsung s5 or whatever other device I want by changing things such as the model ID and such
I cannot change my IMEI when I don't want to call MetroPCS but I need to test a different SIM card
I cannot have Automatic call recording (Or call recording at all, on stock without root)
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And so much more but then I realized this post is going to get too long and time consuming
TL;DR: I need root! I cannot live without it and unless you taste and eat the delicious glory(root) as much as I do, you wouldn't understand.
Root is a requirement in my eyes.
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Listing all the things you can do with root is great but my gripe is the claim of "It might as well be an iPhone" when you can't root it. Thats a very low energy argument.
How many user have rooted the new device?
M.
I haven't rooted a phone in at least a couple years. No need anymore. On the Note 8, practically anything can be disabled, themes don't need root, there are amazing root-free adblockers now, and performance is killer. Why waste time tinkering with the phone when I can be enjoying it instead?
I rooted my phone. There is no adblocker like AdAway and I enjoy tinkering with it.
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I haven't rooted a phone in at least a couple years. No need anymore. On the Note 8, practically anything can be disabled, themes don't need root, there are amazing root-free adblockers now, and performance is killer. Why waste time tinkering with the phone when I can be enjoying it instead?
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There are many reasons for root. There always will be too.
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Moniclock said:
How many user have rooted the new device?
M.
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Depends, none in the US or with a snapdragon version. Exynos, yes, lots.
Death-Dealer said:
There are many reasons for root. There always will be too.
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I was simply answering the question as it pertains to me.
For me, no reason to root. Only reason I did was for titanium backup but it caused more issues than it was worth. I restore with samsung backup and log back in to everything to start fresh everytime. I found that rooting to restore and start with dirty app data caused unwanted results. There is not 1 thing I need root for now days
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root is MUST, I do not need a phone without it, period !!
Maybe, one day we can get root with AOSP out of the box. ohh, dreams !!
at least for now we have UK version Note 8 N950F that has unlocked bootloader, and works with multiple bands !! unfortunately it's the only version that supports everything, would be nice to have 256gb on board.
microsd cards is really garbage laggy crap, which will die on you anytime.
I had the S8+ and my version didn't have root, so I was forced to live without it.
I'll be getting my hands on the Note 8 in a couple of days, and my plan now is NOT to root it, regardless of whether root is available. The reason is because what I LOSE from root now outweighs what I gain from it.
The main thing that I lose from root? SECURE FOLDER!
This has become really valuable to me. I lost it after rooting the Note 7 so never really got to use it, but after having used it on the S8+, I don't think I'm willing to give it up.
Like others have already pointed out, the benefits of root aren't that important anymore:
- Titanium backup for restoring apps - mostly done by Samsung's restore, and my most important apps to port over with data have their own backup/restore functions anyway (ie. Wechat and Whatsapp)
- Other root apps like Greenify - Samsung already has similar functions built-in
- Backup of entire phone - can live without it
- custom roms - Samsung already has most of the stuff I wanted from custom roms anyway, like showing the battery percentage on notification bar, etc.
- Accessing root directory - oh well, too bad. Won't die without this ability.
Yes, I'm rooted, for AdAway mainly.
As others have said, most thing you needed root for you can do without root now. For me it was Call Recording and changing the DPI, both of which i could do perfectly on my N8 before rooting it.
I have rooted Note 4 but now do not see point why i need to do for note 8
1 Will trigger know and other samsung security services
2 The all point why Samsung not allowing to root is for security reason as it is all point how to secure you data
Just imagine you have rooted - Now phone stolen + it is rooted so you have open doors to you all content emails contacts etc "Im not sure if all right but if you have root you can access anything on the phone maybe im wrong?"
Im not programmer to use full potential of root if you do not know what are you doing -can make phone work slower that faster
all non system programs you can disable in app To remove samsung thing yes maybe will be good thing, but it is samsung phone so I can blame samsung because they put samsung services Just if do not want to use them do not use
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I haven't rooted a phone in at least a couple years. No need anymore. On the Note 8, practically anything can be disabled, themes don't need root, there are amazing root-free adblockers now, and performance is killer. Why waste time tinkering with the phone when I can be enjoying it instead?
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LOL, you know this is a DEV website right? Where people hang out to root phones, because they want to. Because they enjoy it.
If you don't root then what developer will do Lol !
Anyway, loosing Spay and secure folder is currently challenging, may be some workaround appear later. Also development is at early stage so may you can wait till you find good reason for it. By the way, rooted mine almost in no time after getting it on 21st.
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LOL, you know this is a DEV website right? Where people hang out to root phones, because they want to. Because they enjoy it.
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So THAT'S why it's called "XDA developers"? In my 7 years here you would think I'd have figured that out!
Again. I answered the question as it pertains to me. I've rooted more phones than not, I just don't feel the need anymore.
Got my brand new S10+ yesterday, and found out that no one rooted it yet (am I right?).
Migrating from a previous phone to a new one usually takes me a couple of hours of setting up everything, and a couple more of fiddling around, and I'll hate to do it twice.
I'm guessing its going to take a similar amount of time for many of you guys that likes everything customized & tailored.
So... what do you say?
Migrate (and then when a safe rooting method is out there - repeat everything)?
Wait for root while your brand new & shiny phone smiles at you from your desk while collecting dust?
How long do you think we'll wait until someone comes up with a rooting solution?
I'm gonna set mine up and use it like normal, just no updating at all until a root methods is discovered, preferably one with an unlocked bootloader and that doesn't trip Knox. I haven't had a Galaxy device since the Note 4, Knox is still a thing, right?
Also, I assume you tried unlocked the bootloader in developer options and it didn't work?
Rooting has become a more difficult process in the last few recent years. I'm pretty sure the snapdragon variant is the one that likely won't get a root method or that it will be a long while until it comes around - I could be wrong and not trying to spread misinformation...
Truth be told, the Galaxy s8 was the first phone I felt I didn't need to have root with. The ability to remove apps out of the box, freezing unneeded apps, and substratum for theming really helped with that. I can't wait for my s10 to get here Friday. I don't expect root, but with the new UI, and hopefully, the ability to theme or have a dark mode once again will likely stem that feeling to need root.
While I can obviously live without root since I did pre-order this phone, i will still be a bit sad without Viper4Android
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Got my brand new S10+ yesterday, and found out that no one rooted it yet (am I right?).
Migrating from a previous phone to a new one usually takes me a couple of hours of setting up everything, and a couple more of fiddling around, and I'll hate to do it twice.
I'm guessing its going to take a similar amount of time for many of you guys that likes everything customized & tailored.
So... what do you say?
Migrate (and then when a safe rooting method is out there - repeat everything)?
Wait for root while your brand new & shiny phone smiles at you from your desk while collecting dust?
How long do you think we'll wait until someone comes up with a rooting solution?
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You're going to have to post a model # or something US/International Snapdragon/Exynos before anyone can answer that question. Exynos=root, US Snapdragon=probably never.
If you have any Samsung Snapdragon phone and are waiting for someone to root it you'll see the sun burn out and die sooner.
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Also, I assume you tried unlocked the bootloader in developer options and it didn't work?
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I did see that option under the dev menu, but I didnt try to use it, because AFAIK, bootloader unlocking is only the first step towards a properly rooted device....
Is there any advantage for unlocking the bootloader (before a rooting method is discovered) that I'm missing?
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Truth be told, the Galaxy s8 was the first phone I felt I didn't need to have root with. The ability to remove apps out of the box, freezing unneeded apps, and substratum for theming really helped with that. I can't wait for my s10 to get here Friday. I don't expect root, but with the new UI, and hopefully, the ability to theme or have a dark mode once again will likely stem that feeling to need root.
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Here are my main reasons:
1. Titanium backup - need I say more?
2. Get rid of bloatware
3. Properly block ads
You'll find plenty of other reasons here: https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/all-reasons-you-should-root-your-phone-0189131/
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You're going to have to post a model # or something US/International Snaodragon/Exynos before anyone can answer that question. Exynos=root, US Snapdragon=probably never.
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roaduardo said:
If you have any Samsung Snapdragon phone and are waiting for someone to root it you'll see the sun burn out and die sooner.
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Luckily, I'm with a SM-G975F (Exynos 9820)
What do you think are the odds for having the Exynos variants rooted?
Luckily, I'm with a SM-G975F (Exynos 9820)
What do you think are the odds for having the Exynos variants rooted?
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Fair
When you unlock the boot loader, it’ll factory reset your device, including wiping internal sd card. Best to go ahead and do that sooner than later imo
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When you unlock the boot loader, it’ll factory reset your device, including wiping internal sd card. Best to go ahead and do that sooner than later imo
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I'm aware that rooting will wipe my device clean - thats the reason I brought the question up...
But - are there any other steps in the currently known Samsung rooting methods that will also wipe my phone?
In other words - if I'll unlock the bootloader now (and factory reset my phone) - will I be able to root & keep my data and setup in the future (once a rooting method is discovered)?
My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
Titanium Backup (to delete some system apps) is also nice. I still have my rooted 6T but I doubt I'll be using it much after I get my S10(E) tomorrow.
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My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
Titanium Backup (to delete some system apps) is also nice. I still have my rooted 6T but I doubt I'll be using it much after I get my S10(E) tomorrow.
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Oh man don't even mention Titanium Backup. I had many rooted Moto phones from the original thru the G4 and even did some rom development with them. Titanium Backup was one of the first and best apps I ever paid for. The one good thing about Motos though , it was almost impossible to brick a Moto.
Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??
First time with pie? Why are you trolling the forum reposting this question instead of spending a minute looking?
After you tap build number and it tells you that developer options have been enabled, go back to the top level menu and scroll all the way down. It's at the very bottom.
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Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??
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Don't give people heart attacks like that, lol. Gotta have developed options at least to speed up the animations.
roaduardo said:
My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
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Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.
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Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??
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It's under /Settings/System in Pie
jitz said:
Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.
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Where are you from?
jitz said:
Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.
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LUCKY!
edopa said:
Where are you from?
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Israel,
It seems that all of the S10 variants sold here supports call recording out of the box.
Hi together,
I am wondering which benefits I can expect from rooting my device.
One thing that comes to my mind is having an option to use face unlock for older unlock APIs.
What do you guys think?
Tirade incoming...
I'm probably in the minority, but I won't buy a phone I cannot root. The idea that the phone that I paid $1000 for up front is under the control of other companies seems wrong to me. I have full control over my computers... my ISP doesn't tell me what I can run on it and can't force me to use their DNS; Microsoft doesn't tell me that I'm breaking a EULA by running admin programs; my bank's website doesn't refuse to load because I'm running a lot of browser extensions that can modify the page. Google says they respect that people want control over their phones but they also say they respect app creator's wanting to run on an unmodified device. I throw those companies to the wind and don't look back. If only Google would stop blocking access to things and requiring us to use root to gain them back. They give and take features almost constantly and it often feels like a losing battle.
Ideology aside, there are so many small things that can be done through rooting. The next best alternative is either awkward or non-existent. I could name them off, but each thing on their own is easily dismissable is about preference. But if I had to use a phone that had none of my modifications/tweaks, I would be fairly unhappy. I don't think you'll understand the difference until you're actually changing your phone significantly as a whole then have to consider going back. A lot of things you won't know you even wanted until you find that they're possible... and a lot of things you'll look at and not even care about, despite them being popular to other people. That's what rooting is to me. Choices and options... in a world where Apple and even Google think that less is more.
I think if you're willing to experiment and put a significant amount of time in doing so, you should dive in and find out what you like. But if you're on the ropes about it, then you might not get into it.
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Tirade incoming...
I'm probably in the minority, but I won't buy a phone I cannot root. The idea that the phone that I paid $1000 for up front is under the control of other companies seems wrong to me. I have full control over my computers... my ISP doesn't tell me what I can run on it and can't force me to use their DNS; Microsoft doesn't tell me that I'm breaking a EULA by running admin programs; my bank's website doesn't refuse to load because I'm running a lot of browser extensions that can modify the page. Google says they respect that people want control over their phones but they also say they respect app creator's wanting to run on an unmodified device. I throw those companies to the wind and don't look back. If only Google would stop blocking access to things and requiring us to use root to gain them back. They give and take features almost constantly and it often feels like a losing battle.
Ideology aside, there are so many small things that can be done through rooting. The next best alternative is either awkward or non-existent. I could name them off, but each thing on their own is easily dismissable is about preference. But if I had to use a phone that had none of my modifications/tweaks, I would be fairly unhappy. I don't think you'll understand the difference until you're actually changing your phone significantly as a whole then have to consider going back. A lot of things you won't know you even wanted until you find that they're possible... and a lot of things you'll look at and not even care about, despite them being popular to other people. That's what rooting is to me. Choices and options... in a world where Apple and even Google think that less is more.
I think if you're willing to experiment and put a significant amount of time in doing so, you should dive in and find out what you like. But if you're on the ropes about it, then you might not get into it.
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To make that clear. I rooted every android phone I owned up to now. There has been always a thing that bothered me about the stock ROM.
But this time I feel like everything is working out of the box. (Except face unlock for ing, which sux)
I get your point and you are totally right. But I'm not sure if I want to change so much and having to update on my own and other things is to much work for me.
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To make that clear. I rooted every android phone I owned up to now. There has been always a thing that bothered me about the stock ROM.
But this time I feel like everything is working out of the box. (Except face unlock for ing, which sux)
I get your point and you are totally right. But I'm not sure if I want to change so much and having to update on my own and other things is to much work for me.
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I hear you. Rooting used to be fun and easy but it's more work than I want to deal with at this point.
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It takes me longer the download the stock image to do updates with than it takes me to re-root the phone after the update. I wonder why it seems like a lot of work to you.
PS. My broadband ISP is slow....
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It takes me longer the download the stock image to do updates with than it takes me to re-root the phone after the update. I wonder why it seems like a lot of work to you.
PS. My broadband ISP is slow....
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It takes more time, which you actively have to spend. It's not like ow there is an update. Ok install done.
You have to go through all steps. You have to e.g. change settings in build.prop again. Flash kernel or what ever.
One example with rooted and problems with apps I'm always unsure if it's due to root or due to the rom. Stuff like this.
I don't have to do either of those things. My build.prop changes are systemlessly handled by a Magisk module that just works as soon as I'm rooted again. YMMV.
I've spent more time writing in this thread than my monthly process takes. If you don't have that time, then fine. You've answered your own question?
I've rooted all my devices except the pixel ones. There's absolutely no need for me to root a pixel device, everything is working as I want out of the box. That's one reason that development for the pixel 4/xl is nearly non existent.
ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!
dave5777 said:
ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!
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Yes this would be the only reason for me.
first reason finger face
second reason motion sense..
now on android beta 2.5 not rooted
Why choose android if you are going to use a limited system?
If i could live without root i would just go iPhone way
fuarkgl3 said:
Why choose android if you are going to use a limited system?
If i could live without root i would just go iPhone way
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Cause the limited system will do what most people need it to do
dave5777 said:
ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!
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Pull it down for half a sec.
Mackay53 said:
Cause the limited system will do what most people need it to do
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Again. If you are going to use a limited system why choose android over iOS?
I don't understand your reply
fuarkgl3 said:
Again. If you are going to use a limited system why choose android over iOS?
I don't understand your reply
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Because many people like what Android has to offer over iOS, simple. Rooting isn't as useful as what it used to be
Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...
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Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...
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From what I've been reading it's going to be hard to get Google Pay to work with root. I only use root to bring back the 2 button gesture using a Magisk module. I don't know if it's worth it anymore.
xtravbx said:
Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...
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Google pay works right now for me and I'm rooted running 11 beta 2.5.
fr0st420 said:
From what I've been reading it's going to be hard to get Google Pay to work with root. I only use root to bring back the 2 button gesture using a Magisk module. I don't know if it's worth it anymore.
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I want to root so I can run ProtonVPN (or any VPN really) alongside Adguard. You can't run them side x side without root....
Admittedly a little sick of the whole big brother thing, so wouldn't mind obscuring my traffic a bit.