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[Q] will the T-Mobile version be rootable

I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security

CheesyNutz said:
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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Well I found this http://www.rootupdate.com/2016/08/root-samsung-galaxy-note-7-without-pc.html?m=1 and it says Chainfire has a root file for it. It doesn't specify the carrier or anything but there's hope I guess

susy1990 said:
Well I found this http://www.rootupdate.com/2016/08/root-samsung-galaxy-note-7-without-pc.html?m=1 and it says Chainfire has a root file for it. It doesn't specify the carrier or anything but there's hope I guess
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yep i hope its that easy lol

i'm going to guess the bootloader is locked like the s7 edge. hopefully it's not too long before we have a exploit to root.

CheesyNutz said:
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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It's called KNOX, also you don't need root to remove bloat on android 5+. Some will argue for space purposes but the system parition is just that, chances are if you simply cannot uninstall and you have to disable, then the application resides in the system parition. Deleting app in the system partion creates no more useable user space.
As far as Knox, what makes you want to remove it?

I'm waiting to see before buying

With the evolution technology and the reliance on mobile devices, Having KNOX is not as bad as it seems, the piece of mind knowing I have access to defense grade mobile security is great for a business and general security aspect. which goes far past fingerprints and basic passwords. Just my opinion....

clockedtouch said:
With the evolution technology and the reliance on mobile devices, Having KNOX is not as bad as it seems, the piece of mind knowing I have access to defense grade mobile security is great for a business and general security aspect. which goes far past fingerprints and basic passwords. Just my opinion....
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The golden question is, is there a back door to the iron gates of KNOX? On the front end it can be encrypted to the moon and back, but if there is a back door, it's pointless. Also with finger print scanners and the iris scanner. What a convenient way to capture personal data. Let the people do the work for them...brilliant.
I'm curious to hear what Dev's that know the in's and out's of the software have to say about this...The only way we'd be able to know for sure is if it was fully open source to be able to see any hidden doors and where they exist.
Just saying...
Oh and I do hope someone finds an exploit to be able to stably root.

I keep coming back to these threads day after day, fingers crossed. I can't stomack paying $900 for a device that I don't have full control over. Might as well by an iPhone with the better OS with the way Samsung is moving.
Just does not make any sense to increase the price for less functionality

Amd4life said:
I keep coming back to these threads day after day, fingers crossed. I can't stomack paying $900 for a device that I don't have full control over. Might as well by an iPhone with the better OS with the way Samsung is moving.
Just does not make any sense to increase the price for less functionality
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So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......

clockedtouch said:
So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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xposed installer that's one

Kind of crazy to decide to buy or not buy a phone because of an ap that doesn't even come installed on the phone. IN any event, if ROOT is found for the Note 7 - then you can install Xposed)
Chances are very high that the US Varients of the Note 7 are all going to be locked. I will be shocked if TMOBILE does not lock down the Note 7 like they did on the S7 (well if you listen to TMOBILE they say Samsung locked it - not tmobile) whatever, my bet is it is going to be locked.
In any event, the Note 7 is going to be a beast of a phone - just like the S7 Edge -BUT, not much different than the 7 Edge - a little larger - slightly better camera - S Pen of course - but otherwise, not a whole lot different - that is probably the main reason why I am struggling with whether to buy or not - I played with one at Best Buy the other day and I like the feel of Note 7 a lot - the curved screen is slightly different than the S7 Edge - but it still looks amazing - not sure what I am going to do.....we'll see....I love new toys - for that reason alone, I will probably end up getting it - but still havent made a final decision....I will NOT buy a pre-order like I have done with every other phone since the note 2 - I got burned when the S7 Edge turned out to be locked and I am not going to risk that again ...we'll find out soon enough...

Yea it sure is a toss up at this point and Samsung if you are listening, you are not doing yourself a favor for locking boot loaders. You don't have to worry about anything, because you'll still make the sales off of the majority who don't care about unlocked BL's, but one thing that you do have to understated is that although the phone enthusiasts may make up a small percentage, we are the ones who are responsible for making up the foundation of the phone customizing culture. You are on the edge and about to lower yourself into the apple territory. Don't do that.

S7 and S7 edge both not rootable?

vibrantliker said:
S7 and S7 edge both not rootable?
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They are rooted at the moment...
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app

Would a root for the Note 7 cause the iris / finger scanner & Pay apps to stop working or is that just for samsung pay? I ordered my Note 7 yesterday knowing that I probably won't see root for a while, but I don't know if it's worth it if root breaks some of the other functions. At least for me...

mister_propa said:
xposed installer that's one
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Xposed is hardly a reason to make the low fruit argument of it might as well be an apple if you can't root it. The fact that I can upload whatever files I want, I can OTG connect keyboards, mice, thumbdrives, expandable memory was brought back, replacement launchers, I can install apps outside of the market, disabled built in software, change what app handles your messages.
Inherently there is so much more flexibility in android. You could drop android back two version numbers and functionality still holds its own against iOS today
All that happens before root.
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coretech said:
Would a root for the Note 7 cause the iris / finger scanner & Pay apps to stop working or is that just for samsung pay? I ordered my Note 7 yesterday knowing that I probably won't see root for a while, but I don't know if it's worth it if root breaks some of the other functions. At least for me...
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If its like the Note 5 when it comes to root (if you can) then it will only kill Samsung Pay. Of course there were other devices (S5/6?) that lost finger print scanning because of the root method. We kind of just have to wait and see.

bajasur said:
They are rooted at the moment...
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I don't see any roms for them on XDA (T-Mob)

clockedtouch said:
So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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I know you weren't talking to me but in my own personal opinion "less functionality" (A.k.a. without root)
means
I cannot control the CPU frequency or GPU, or the governor.
I cannot change the boot animation
I cannot use xposed
I cannot do whatever I want
I cannot tweak what I want for better performance or battery life
I cannot have custom ROMs
I cannot be able to show off my device like "I got root!"
I cannot disable some of the bloat ware that the system does not let me disable by default
I cannot calm my "they are spying on me" by uninstalling sketchy as hell apps or useless that just drain my battery
I cannot not just be bored and test out a **** load of ROMs or Root applications
I cannot have my snapchat mods/hacks
I cannot (Before I actually got YouTube Red) use xposed to make YouTube play in the background
I cannot decompile system applications and re-write some of it or re-theme it and then put it on my phone
I cannot be nerdy and make my my device seem like a samsung s5 or whatever other device I want by changing things such as the model ID and such
I cannot change my IMEI when I don't want to call MetroPCS but I need to test a different SIM card
I cannot have Automatic call recording (Or call recording at all, on stock without root)
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And so much more but then I realized this post is going to get too long and time consuming
TL;DR:
Root is a requirement in my eyes.

vibrantliker said:
I don't see any roms for them on XDA (T-Mob)
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Andrew S.S. said:
I know you weren't talking to me but in my own personal opinion "less functionality" (A.k.a. without root)
means
I cannot control the CPU frequency or GPU, or the governor.
I cannot change the boot animation
I cannot use xposed
I cannot do whatever I want
I cannot tweak what I want for better performance or battery life
I cannot have custom ROMs
I cannot be able to show off my device like "I got root!"
I cannot disable some of the bloat ware that the system does not let me disable by default
I cannot calm my "they are spying on me" by uninstalling sketchy as hell apps or useless that just drain my battery
I cannot not just be bored and test out a **** load of ROMs or Root applications
I cannot have my snapchat mods/hacks
I cannot (Before I actually got YouTube Red) use xposed to make YouTube play in the background
I cannot decompile system applications and re-write some of it or re-theme it and then put it on my phone
I cannot be nerdy and make my my device seem like a samsung s5 or whatever other device I want by changing things such as the model ID and such
I cannot change my IMEI when I don't want to call MetroPCS but I need to test a different SIM card
I cannot have Automatic call recording (Or call recording at all, on stock without root)
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And so much more but then I realized this post is going to get too long and time consuming
TL;DR: I need root! I cannot live without it and unless you taste and eat the delicious glory(root) as much as I do, you wouldn't understand.
Root is a requirement in my eyes.
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Listing all the things you can do with root is great but my gripe is the claim of "It might as well be an iPhone" when you can't root it. Thats a very low energy argument.

What are the benefits to rooting Tab S2?

ok, i just got a tab s2 from christmas party, and im wondering what are the benefits to rooting the tablet
im all about rooting and all, as my note 5 is rooted running MOAR. And you can check my profile, ive done a good bit of themeing over the past few years.
but as for the Tablet, what good would root serve? should i root or pack it back up and get the gift receipt to exchange it for something else?

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JoeyDuran said:
ok, i just got a tab s2 from christmas party, and im wondering what are the benefits to rooting the tablet
im all about rooting and all, as my note 5 is rooted running MOAR. And you can check my profile, ive done a good bit of themeing over the past few years.
but as for the Tablet, what good would root serve? should i root or pack it back up and get the gift receipt to exchange it for something else?
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Rooting this will give you the option to do anything a rooted device can do.

Root it. Then let me know when theme it so I have a desire to root. Wait, you didn't get the 9.7, did you? ?

Basically this, do you want the keys to your house or do want someone else to have them and let them decide which parts of the house you're allowed to access?

ashyx said:
Basically this, do you want the keys to your house or do want someone else to have them and let them decide which parts of the house you're allowed to access?
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Well, it could be argued that rooting in the hands of inexperienced users is a bit like handing the keys to the house to someone else. Plus there are rooms out there that you don't want people wandering into aimlessly. Think cockpit of a jetliner.
For me the main benefits are AdAway, xPosed, Tasker with secure settings, and ability to delete bloat ware rather than freeze it.

GroovyGeek said:
Well, it could be argued that rooting in the hands of inexperienced users is a bit like handing the keys to the house to someone else. Plus there are rooms out there that you don't want people wandering into aimlessly. Think cockpit of a jetliner.
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That may have some credibility if you gave your keys to someone else, but I neither do that nor give any of my devices to anyone else to play with.
I'm the pilot, so I'm in the cockpit and in charge of the jet.

ashyx said:
That may have some credibility if you gave your keys to someone else, but I neither do that nor give any of my devices to anyone else to play with.
I'm the pilot, so I'm in the cockpit and in charge of the jet.
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For you absolutely, for the typical user it is more like buying the budget fare and then being asked to fly the plane. For someone who needs to be told "what is rooting" or asks what it can do for them I would not be so sure the benefits are clear. This is not intended to put down the OP, we all need to learn and some learn by asking the right questions from more experienced users.

GroovyGeek said:
For you absolutely, for the typical user it is more like buying the budget fare and then being asked to fly the plane. For someone who needs to be told "what is rooting" or asks what it can do for them I would not be so sure the benefits are clear. This is not intended to put down the OP, we all need to learn and some learn by asking the right questions from more experienced users.
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It comes down to this as far as I'm concerned, you can either be the driver or the passenger. [emoji6]

GroovyGeek said:
Well, it could be argued that rooting in the hands of inexperienced users is a bit like handing the keys to the house to someone else. Plus there are rooms out there that you don't want people wandering into aimlessly. Think cockpit of a jetliner.
For me the main benefits are AdAway, xPosed, Tasker with secure settings, and ability to delete bloat ware rather than freeze it.
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This is the most helpful post to answer what the OP was originally asking. After rooting, you can install custom ROMs that could give things like extended battery life or the ability to overclock your processor. It may not need it now, but future applications may refuse to run, or run slowly when installed unless you update your operating system. Samsung will eventually stop providing updates, but often there is support for the device by the XDA community who want to continue to use the tablet long after Samsung "retires" it.
As for right now, I'm leaving my device mostly stock until there becomes a strong reason to root.

Lucas155 said:
As for right now, I'm leaving my device mostly stock until there becomes a strong reason to root.
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That's how I feel too. There's really nothing I need to do now that requires root access.

For me it was worth it just for the Xposed module that allows all apps to be used in multiwindow ?

Ramer said:
Root it. Then let me know when theme it so I have a desire to root. Wait, you didn't get the 9.7, did you? ?
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sorry ramer, just seein this...havent been keeping up with xda lately. and i got the 8.0 one

I want to root my new S2 so badly I can hardly stand it because I have a hard time living without AFWall+, AdAway, and Titanium Backup. However, this is my first Samsung device since the Galaxy S2, which had "Triangle Away". Now I'm worried that the thing will break on me within the warranty period and Samsung will refuse to repair it because of the Knox flag.
I'm more curious what the reliability of these tablets has been before I do anything to mine that precludes me from returning it or getting warranty service.

ashyx said:
It comes down to this as far as I'm concerned, you can either be the driver or the passenger. [emoji6]
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I agree with this. Rooting gives you the option to kill off ads, really backup the device, install software you want (like an adblocker ), not what google/samsung wants you to install (anything but an adblocker).
For me, it started with rooting, as I wanted a real backup. Now I root stock and run titanium backup, adblock, when there is, xposed with minminguard (even better adblocker) and as soon as I get a build working or someone else beats me to it, I install Lineage (previously known as CyanogenMod) to get rid of all bloat and install the apps I want. (yeah, even opengasps gets that treatment, pico only)
My wife was using my CM Moto G 2014 for a while and when she wanted to replace it, she went for one on which Lineage was available... Having to learn a different way of using the phone was the reason to switch to 1 interface for all. (and the restore of her settings with TB was nice as well )
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jshamlet said:
I want to root my new S2 so badly I can hardly stand it because I have a hard time living without AFWall+, AdAway, and Titanium Backup. However, this is my first Samsung device since the Galaxy S2, which had "Triangle Away". Now I'm worried that the thing will break on me within the warranty period and Samsung will refuse to repair it because of the Knox flag.
I'm more curious what the reliability of these tablets has been before I do anything to mine that precludes me from returning it or getting warranty service.
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Mine had a bad charger port, while I was developing CM for it. (T810) Flashed stock, KNOX flag triggered, they checked and repaired. However, I'm in Europe and manufacturers have to prove that messing with software caused the breakage before they can void warranty. (Which they usually don't try, as it's to much a legal hassle)

T_I said:
I agree with this. Rooting gives you the option to kill off ads, really backup the device, install software you want (like an adblocker ), not what google/samsung wants you to install (anything but an adblocker).
For me, it started with rooting, as I wanted a real backup. Now I root stock and run titanium backup, adblock, when there is, xposed with minminguard (even better adblocker) and as soon as I get a build working or someone else beats me to it, I install Lineage (previously known as CyanogenMod) to get rid of all bloat and install the apps I want. (yeah, even opengasps gets that treatment, pico only)
My wife was using my CM Moto G 2014 for a while and when she wanted to replace it, she went for one on which Lineage was available... Having to learn a different way of using the phone was the reason to switch to 1 interface for all. (and the restore of her settings with TB was nice as well )
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Mine had a bad charger port, while I was developing CM for it. (T810) Flashed stock, KNOX flag triggered, they checked and repaired. However, I'm in Europe and manufacturers have to prove that messing with software caused the breakage before they can void warranty. (Which they usually don't try, as it's to much a legal hassle)
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I'm in the US, where we seem to enjoy letting corporations have their way with us. Given the scare I had last night with the battery*, I think I'm going to stay stock until at least a few weeks or months have gone by to avoid infant mortality issues.
*The battery levels dropped significantly faster than I was expecting, and then refused to recharge past 98% until I power cycled the tablet.

Hi, thank you all for the replies here, I would have 3 related questions:
Is there any way to root the SM-T719 without triggering KNOX/installing recovery?
Will root had any bad influence on Miracast or similar screen casting techniques or on audio? (I had a Sony and if the DRM keys where not found the screen cast and some other proprietary enhancements like Bravia didn't function after unlocking the bootloader, don't understand if KNOX is similar).
If so, can this be reversed?
Thanks!

ccris said:
Hi, thank you all for the replies here, I would have 3 related questions:
Is there any way to root the SM-T719 without triggering KNOX/installing recovery?
Will root had any bad influence on Miracast or similar screen casting techniques or on audio? (I had a Sony and if the DRM keys where not found the screen cast and some other proprietary enhancements like Bravia didn't function after unlocking the bootloader, don't understand if KNOX is similar).
If so, can this be reversed?
Thanks!
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Short of an engineering kernel, which hasn't been found to my knowledge, no. Rooting will trip Knox on this device. This is irreversible, so make absolutely sure it won't be an issue before tripping it.
However, the only thing you really lose is Knox related features, such as secure storage (and possibly your warranty depending on location). I've not really found any functionality missing or damaged beyond that. The Tab S2 doesn't support Samsung Pay as it stands, which is the only other thing that typically gets axed with the warranty bit is set.
Unlike Sony, which for some reason thinks their software is so special they need DRM on the device, Samsung only borks things which are legitimately tied to a known secure device, and the list is pretty short on this tablet.

I'm not really sure if it's related but didn't notice this before rooting... When using an app (Tapatalk/Play Store/Opera browser) sometimes there's a glitch, like for 1-2 seconds the display refreshes the content, this might be repeted every 15-30 seconds... anyone else noticed something similar? thanks!

ccris said:
I'm not really sure if it's related but didn't notice this before rooting... When using an app (Tapatalk/Play Store/Opera browser) sometimes there's a glitch, like for 1-2 seconds the display refreshes the content, this might be repeted every 15-30 seconds... anyone else noticed something similar? thanks!
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what are the root apps you are using?
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Is the "OEM Developer Options" switch necessary for Root?

Im confused.....I was wanting to get a Note8 and have the option to Root. I currently have a rooted Note2 and service with ATT but none of their new phones have the OEM developer switch. Will this prevent me from rooting? What options do I have? If it is necessary for root, can I get my phone elsewhere(possibly from Samsung) with OEM dev option and still use it with ATT? If so ..... where? TIA

coming from a Note 2, is there any reason you would NEED root on a note 8?

j_hansen said:
coming from a Note 2, is there any reason you would NEED root on a note 8?
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I am not a developer and only have a stock chainfire root on my Note2(no custom Roms). I do enjoy some of the apps that require root. i.e.- titanium backup, twrp, SuperSu, AdBlock Plus, Solid Explorer, ES File Explorer, Viper4Android(Audio), Dolby Digital, Wakelock Detector, Xposed Framework, Magisk, Servicely, Tasker, System App Remover and I like having the options that root provides...
Are you saying I dont need root if I get the Note 8...... or are you implying that maybe I dont know enough to attempt what it would take to do it. Im not technically challenged but I am 70 and things are harder for me than they were a few years ago.
Believe me, an honest answer will be more helpful than hurtful.....
Thanks

I used to root and rom my note 2/3/4 as I liked the control and advantages it brung but with the Note 8 I just haven't even considered it, of course our needs/wants are different but I'd say just get the Note 8 and im sure you won't be disappointed no matter what, even if it means finding a few workarounds to achieve 1 or 2 things root provided on your note 2.
getting the 8 will make you feel you just did time travel

Chasoscar said:
I am not a developer and only have a stock chainfire root on my Note2. I do enjoy some of the apps that require root. i.e.- titanium backup, twrp, SuperSu, AdBlock Plus, Solid Explorer, ES File Explorer, Viper4Android(Audio), Dolby Digital, Wakelock Detector, Xposed Framework, Magisk, Servicely, Tasker, System App Remover and I like having the options that root provides...
Are you saying I dont need root if I get the Note 8...... or are you implying that maybe I dont know enough to attempt what it would take to do it. Im not technically challenged but I am 70 and things are harder for me than they were a few years ago.
Believe me, an honest answer will be more helpful than hurtful.....
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If you want root go note 8 exynos. Root/rom for snapdragon is locked down serving life with no chance of parole aka bootloader locked. Root not hard on exynos if you read the guides carefully. A lot of apps you metion can be replicated with non root apps. Samsung has 1 of the best stock androids.
I'd take roms anyday over stock. People smoking crack if they choose the other. 70 and on xda still on here? Props to you sir.

Thanks...... yeah, I just dont like all the ATT bloat and to be honest I dont like them telling me what I can or cant do with a phone that I own....

Chasoscar said:
Thanks...... yeah, I just dont like all the ATT bloat and to be honest I dont like them telling me what I can or cant do with a phone that I own....
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The go Note 8 exynos. None of the US carriers will have that version, all of them snapdragon. So you will have to order online. I don't blame you and feel the same. I am to much of a broke college kid. Carriers only 1s who offer affordable payment plan fml. Unfortunately that means snapdragon for me

Waiting for root?

Got my brand new S10+ yesterday, and found out that no one rooted it yet (am I right?).
Migrating from a previous phone to a new one usually takes me a couple of hours of setting up everything, and a couple more of fiddling around, and I'll hate to do it twice.
I'm guessing its going to take a similar amount of time for many of you guys that likes everything customized & tailored.
So... what do you say?
Migrate (and then when a safe rooting method is out there - repeat everything)?
Wait for root while your brand new & shiny phone smiles at you from your desk while collecting dust?
How long do you think we'll wait until someone comes up with a rooting solution?

I'm gonna set mine up and use it like normal, just no updating at all until a root methods is discovered, preferably one with an unlocked bootloader and that doesn't trip Knox. I haven't had a Galaxy device since the Note 4, Knox is still a thing, right?
Also, I assume you tried unlocked the bootloader in developer options and it didn't work?

Rooting has become a more difficult process in the last few recent years. I'm pretty sure the snapdragon variant is the one that likely won't get a root method or that it will be a long while until it comes around - I could be wrong and not trying to spread misinformation...
Truth be told, the Galaxy s8 was the first phone I felt I didn't need to have root with. The ability to remove apps out of the box, freezing unneeded apps, and substratum for theming really helped with that. I can't wait for my s10 to get here Friday. I don't expect root, but with the new UI, and hopefully, the ability to theme or have a dark mode once again will likely stem that feeling to need root.

While I can obviously live without root since I did pre-order this phone, i will still be a bit sad without Viper4Android

jitz said:
Got my brand new S10+ yesterday, and found out that no one rooted it yet (am I right?).
Migrating from a previous phone to a new one usually takes me a couple of hours of setting up everything, and a couple more of fiddling around, and I'll hate to do it twice.
I'm guessing its going to take a similar amount of time for many of you guys that likes everything customized & tailored.
So... what do you say?
Migrate (and then when a safe rooting method is out there - repeat everything)?
Wait for root while your brand new & shiny phone smiles at you from your desk while collecting dust?
How long do you think we'll wait until someone comes up with a rooting solution?
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You're going to have to post a model # or something US/International Snapdragon/Exynos before anyone can answer that question. Exynos=root, US Snapdragon=probably never.

If you have any Samsung Snapdragon phone and are waiting for someone to root it you'll see the sun burn out and die sooner.

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Also, I assume you tried unlocked the bootloader in developer options and it didn't work?
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I did see that option under the dev menu, but I didnt try to use it, because AFAIK, bootloader unlocking is only the first step towards a properly rooted device....
Is there any advantage for unlocking the bootloader (before a rooting method is discovered) that I'm missing?
st0nez0r said:
Truth be told, the Galaxy s8 was the first phone I felt I didn't need to have root with. The ability to remove apps out of the box, freezing unneeded apps, and substratum for theming really helped with that. I can't wait for my s10 to get here Friday. I don't expect root, but with the new UI, and hopefully, the ability to theme or have a dark mode once again will likely stem that feeling to need root.
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Here are my main reasons:
1. Titanium backup - need I say more?
2. Get rid of bloatware
3. Properly block ads
You'll find plenty of other reasons here: https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/all-reasons-you-should-root-your-phone-0189131/
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You're going to have to post a model # or something US/International Snaodragon/Exynos before anyone can answer that question. Exynos=root, US Snapdragon=probably never.
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roaduardo said:
If you have any Samsung Snapdragon phone and are waiting for someone to root it you'll see the sun burn out and die sooner.
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Luckily, I'm with a SM-G975F (Exynos 9820)
What do you think are the odds for having the Exynos variants rooted?

Luckily, I'm with a SM-G975F (Exynos 9820)
What do you think are the odds for having the Exynos variants rooted?
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Fair

When you unlock the boot loader, it’ll factory reset your device, including wiping internal sd card. Best to go ahead and do that sooner than later imo

lightmastertech said:
When you unlock the boot loader, it’ll factory reset your device, including wiping internal sd card. Best to go ahead and do that sooner than later imo
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I'm aware that rooting will wipe my device clean - thats the reason I brought the question up...
But - are there any other steps in the currently known Samsung rooting methods that will also wipe my phone?
In other words - if I'll unlock the bootloader now (and factory reset my phone) - will I be able to root & keep my data and setup in the future (once a rooting method is discovered)?

My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
Titanium Backup (to delete some system apps) is also nice. I still have my rooted 6T but I doubt I'll be using it much after I get my S10(E) tomorrow.

roaduardo said:
My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
Titanium Backup (to delete some system apps) is also nice. I still have my rooted 6T but I doubt I'll be using it much after I get my S10(E) tomorrow.
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Oh man don't even mention Titanium Backup. I had many rooted Moto phones from the original thru the G4 and even did some rom development with them. Titanium Backup was one of the first and best apps I ever paid for. The one good thing about Motos though , it was almost impossible to brick a Moto.

Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??

First time with pie? Why are you trolling the forum reposting this question instead of spending a minute looking?
After you tap build number and it tells you that developer options have been enabled, go back to the top level menu and scroll all the way down. It's at the very bottom.

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Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??
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Don't give people heart attacks like that, lol. Gotta have developed options at least to speed up the animations.

roaduardo said:
My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
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Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.

mrao said:
Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??
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It's under /Settings/System in Pie

jitz said:
Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.
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Where are you from?

jitz said:
Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.
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LUCKY!

edopa said:
Where are you from?
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Israel,
It seems that all of the S10 variants sold here supports call recording out of the box.

ROOT POSSIBLE?! 0day exploit CVE-2019-2215

So are we ready to gain root on SM-G960U and others?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateof...o-hundreds-of-millions-of-users/#68e63a235ea2
I am downloading the 0day and will be testing it on several unpached Samsung phones
"The bug is a local privilege escalation vulnerability that allows for a full compromise of a vulnerable device,"
Let's get this dirty santa v2 on the road

I'll hold off on updating cause I don't do much things on my phone that needs privacy anyway, but I doubt anyone would be able to still obtain root. Then again I don't really need root tbh. It'll just be nice once I upgrade so I can have a rooted dex station

RFE said:
So are we ready to gain root on SM-G960U and others?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateof...o-hundreds-of-millions-of-users/#68e63a235ea2
I am downloading the 0day and will be testing it on several unpached Samsung phones
"The bug is a local privilege escalation vulnerability that allows for a full compromise of a vulnerable device,"
Let's get this dirty santa v2 on the road
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Where are you downloading this?

the more i have lived without root, the more i realize that its just not that necessary anymore. It sucks that its suck a PITA and that the mfgs havent figured out a way to give us access to the stuff we want root for in the first place while protecting the vulnerable stuff at the same time. It cant be that crazy of a concept to put certain things in a protected shell and allow the other stuff to be less secured and give us all the good stuff of root without their panties being in a bunch about it.

It's not about security, it's about makin you use their bloatware/spyware. I want root to get out of the goolag. I don't trust them and without root I have no choice but to use their info harvesting services and apps. It's like being held at gunpoint and being forced to give up all privacy to the new international nazi organization called Google

I'm still on android 8.0 this is not a daily phone I can test if anyone has anything to test

Heathmcdonald said:
It's not about security, it's about makin you use their bloatware/spyware. I want root to get out of the goolag. I don't trust them and without root I have no choice but to use their info harvesting services and apps. It's like being held at gunpoint and being forced to give up all privacy to the new international nazi organization called Google
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i can see why youre on that thought path, but if youre so at arms over this, then why use a brand of phone that is notorious about not being very root friendly? Compile your own firmware, dont use android at all (there are alternatives). Why did you get a S9 in the first place? The S8 wasnt exactly a hotbed for root

How can I help? I also happen to have the SM-G960U on Android 8.0.0 UI 9. Security Patch Dec 1 2018. Def vulnerable. Been waiting for some type of exploit. Idc about Samsung pay or knox. I just want TWRP & FULL CONTROL of what I buy. EFS Backups.

youdoofus said:
i can see why youre on that thought path, but if youre so at arms over this, then why use a brand of phone that is notorious about not being very root friendly? Compile your own firmware, dont use android at all (there are alternatives). Why did you get a S9 in the first place? The S8 wasnt exactly a hotbed for root
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I had a s8+ it was rooted and I loved it even with the 80% battery I got like 8-10 hours of screeen on time and I didn't give it any thought whe I when I broke my phone. If I had known I would have just bought another s8+
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youdoofus said:
i can see why youre on that thought path, but if youre so at arms over this, then why use a brand of phone that is notorious about not being very root friendly? Compile your own firmware, dont use android at all (there are alternatives). Why did you get a S9 in the first place? The S8 wasnt exactly a hotbed for root
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I had a s8+ it was rooted and I loved it even with the 80% battery I got like 8-10 hours of screeen on time and I didn't give it any thought whe I when I broke my phone. If I had known I would have just bought another s8+ and besides that, all this stuff about Google hadn't came out yet. I can't afford another 5-700 for a new phone, I don't have a contract nor do I want one but I assure you that when I buy another one it won't be Samsung

May have a way to root.
Hello I was able to download vmos and in settings is option to turn on root. It's a phone emulator so it's a primative root but I was able to transfer everything to vmos and when I run root checker it says root is successful and I can run all the root apps. But I also have a question has anyone used this work around and would I be possible to flash anything this way? Or would the twrp through the app work like it would normally? But I gained root this way without unlocking bootloader. Could possibly be a way to somehow use this backdoor to gain the real root. But so far everything works how it should. I'll keep everyone posted on happens when I try to flash somthing through twrp in vmos.