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[Q] will the T-Mobile version be rootable

I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security

CheesyNutz said:
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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Well I found this http://www.rootupdate.com/2016/08/root-samsung-galaxy-note-7-without-pc.html?m=1 and it says Chainfire has a root file for it. It doesn't specify the carrier or anything but there's hope I guess

susy1990 said:
Well I found this http://www.rootupdate.com/2016/08/root-samsung-galaxy-note-7-without-pc.html?m=1 and it says Chainfire has a root file for it. It doesn't specify the carrier or anything but there's hope I guess
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yep i hope its that easy lol

i'm going to guess the bootloader is locked like the s7 edge. hopefully it's not too long before we have a exploit to root.

CheesyNutz said:
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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It's called KNOX, also you don't need root to remove bloat on android 5+. Some will argue for space purposes but the system parition is just that, chances are if you simply cannot uninstall and you have to disable, then the application resides in the system parition. Deleting app in the system partion creates no more useable user space.
As far as Knox, what makes you want to remove it?

I'm waiting to see before buying

With the evolution technology and the reliance on mobile devices, Having KNOX is not as bad as it seems, the piece of mind knowing I have access to defense grade mobile security is great for a business and general security aspect. which goes far past fingerprints and basic passwords. Just my opinion....

clockedtouch said:
With the evolution technology and the reliance on mobile devices, Having KNOX is not as bad as it seems, the piece of mind knowing I have access to defense grade mobile security is great for a business and general security aspect. which goes far past fingerprints and basic passwords. Just my opinion....
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The golden question is, is there a back door to the iron gates of KNOX? On the front end it can be encrypted to the moon and back, but if there is a back door, it's pointless. Also with finger print scanners and the iris scanner. What a convenient way to capture personal data. Let the people do the work for them...brilliant.
I'm curious to hear what Dev's that know the in's and out's of the software have to say about this...The only way we'd be able to know for sure is if it was fully open source to be able to see any hidden doors and where they exist.
Just saying...
Oh and I do hope someone finds an exploit to be able to stably root.

I keep coming back to these threads day after day, fingers crossed. I can't stomack paying $900 for a device that I don't have full control over. Might as well by an iPhone with the better OS with the way Samsung is moving.
Just does not make any sense to increase the price for less functionality

Amd4life said:
I keep coming back to these threads day after day, fingers crossed. I can't stomack paying $900 for a device that I don't have full control over. Might as well by an iPhone with the better OS with the way Samsung is moving.
Just does not make any sense to increase the price for less functionality
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So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......

clockedtouch said:
So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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xposed installer that's one

Kind of crazy to decide to buy or not buy a phone because of an ap that doesn't even come installed on the phone. IN any event, if ROOT is found for the Note 7 - then you can install Xposed)
Chances are very high that the US Varients of the Note 7 are all going to be locked. I will be shocked if TMOBILE does not lock down the Note 7 like they did on the S7 (well if you listen to TMOBILE they say Samsung locked it - not tmobile) whatever, my bet is it is going to be locked.
In any event, the Note 7 is going to be a beast of a phone - just like the S7 Edge -BUT, not much different than the 7 Edge - a little larger - slightly better camera - S Pen of course - but otherwise, not a whole lot different - that is probably the main reason why I am struggling with whether to buy or not - I played with one at Best Buy the other day and I like the feel of Note 7 a lot - the curved screen is slightly different than the S7 Edge - but it still looks amazing - not sure what I am going to do.....we'll see....I love new toys - for that reason alone, I will probably end up getting it - but still havent made a final decision....I will NOT buy a pre-order like I have done with every other phone since the note 2 - I got burned when the S7 Edge turned out to be locked and I am not going to risk that again ...we'll find out soon enough...

Yea it sure is a toss up at this point and Samsung if you are listening, you are not doing yourself a favor for locking boot loaders. You don't have to worry about anything, because you'll still make the sales off of the majority who don't care about unlocked BL's, but one thing that you do have to understated is that although the phone enthusiasts may make up a small percentage, we are the ones who are responsible for making up the foundation of the phone customizing culture. You are on the edge and about to lower yourself into the apple territory. Don't do that.

S7 and S7 edge both not rootable?

vibrantliker said:
S7 and S7 edge both not rootable?
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They are rooted at the moment...
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app

Would a root for the Note 7 cause the iris / finger scanner & Pay apps to stop working or is that just for samsung pay? I ordered my Note 7 yesterday knowing that I probably won't see root for a while, but I don't know if it's worth it if root breaks some of the other functions. At least for me...

mister_propa said:
xposed installer that's one
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Xposed is hardly a reason to make the low fruit argument of it might as well be an apple if you can't root it. The fact that I can upload whatever files I want, I can OTG connect keyboards, mice, thumbdrives, expandable memory was brought back, replacement launchers, I can install apps outside of the market, disabled built in software, change what app handles your messages.
Inherently there is so much more flexibility in android. You could drop android back two version numbers and functionality still holds its own against iOS today
All that happens before root.
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coretech said:
Would a root for the Note 7 cause the iris / finger scanner & Pay apps to stop working or is that just for samsung pay? I ordered my Note 7 yesterday knowing that I probably won't see root for a while, but I don't know if it's worth it if root breaks some of the other functions. At least for me...
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If its like the Note 5 when it comes to root (if you can) then it will only kill Samsung Pay. Of course there were other devices (S5/6?) that lost finger print scanning because of the root method. We kind of just have to wait and see.

bajasur said:
They are rooted at the moment...
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app
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I don't see any roms for them on XDA (T-Mob)

clockedtouch said:
So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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I know you weren't talking to me but in my own personal opinion "less functionality" (A.k.a. without root)
means
I cannot control the CPU frequency or GPU, or the governor.
I cannot change the boot animation
I cannot use xposed
I cannot do whatever I want
I cannot tweak what I want for better performance or battery life
I cannot have custom ROMs
I cannot be able to show off my device like "I got root!"
I cannot disable some of the bloat ware that the system does not let me disable by default
I cannot calm my "they are spying on me" by uninstalling sketchy as hell apps or useless that just drain my battery
I cannot not just be bored and test out a **** load of ROMs or Root applications
I cannot have my snapchat mods/hacks
I cannot (Before I actually got YouTube Red) use xposed to make YouTube play in the background
I cannot decompile system applications and re-write some of it or re-theme it and then put it on my phone
I cannot be nerdy and make my my device seem like a samsung s5 or whatever other device I want by changing things such as the model ID and such
I cannot change my IMEI when I don't want to call MetroPCS but I need to test a different SIM card
I cannot have Automatic call recording (Or call recording at all, on stock without root)
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And so much more but then I realized this post is going to get too long and time consuming
TL;DR:
Root is a requirement in my eyes.

vibrantliker said:
I don't see any roms for them on XDA (T-Mob)
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Andrew S.S. said:
I know you weren't talking to me but in my own personal opinion "less functionality" (A.k.a. without root)
means
I cannot control the CPU frequency or GPU, or the governor.
I cannot change the boot animation
I cannot use xposed
I cannot do whatever I want
I cannot tweak what I want for better performance or battery life
I cannot have custom ROMs
I cannot be able to show off my device like "I got root!"
I cannot disable some of the bloat ware that the system does not let me disable by default
I cannot calm my "they are spying on me" by uninstalling sketchy as hell apps or useless that just drain my battery
I cannot not just be bored and test out a **** load of ROMs or Root applications
I cannot have my snapchat mods/hacks
I cannot (Before I actually got YouTube Red) use xposed to make YouTube play in the background
I cannot decompile system applications and re-write some of it or re-theme it and then put it on my phone
I cannot be nerdy and make my my device seem like a samsung s5 or whatever other device I want by changing things such as the model ID and such
I cannot change my IMEI when I don't want to call MetroPCS but I need to test a different SIM card
I cannot have Automatic call recording (Or call recording at all, on stock without root)
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And so much more but then I realized this post is going to get too long and time consuming
TL;DR: I need root! I cannot live without it and unless you taste and eat the delicious glory(root) as much as I do, you wouldn't understand.
Root is a requirement in my eyes.
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Listing all the things you can do with root is great but my gripe is the claim of "It might as well be an iPhone" when you can't root it. Thats a very low energy argument.

Note8 Root yes/no

How many user have rooted the new device?
M.

I haven't rooted a phone in at least a couple years. No need anymore. On the Note 8, practically anything can be disabled, themes don't need root, there are amazing root-free adblockers now, and performance is killer. Why waste time tinkering with the phone when I can be enjoying it instead?

I rooted my phone. There is no adblocker like AdAway and I enjoy tinkering with it.

_MetalHead_ said:
I haven't rooted a phone in at least a couple years. No need anymore. On the Note 8, practically anything can be disabled, themes don't need root, there are amazing root-free adblockers now, and performance is killer. Why waste time tinkering with the phone when I can be enjoying it instead?
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There are many reasons for root. There always will be too.
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Moniclock said:
How many user have rooted the new device?
M.
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Depends, none in the US or with a snapdragon version. Exynos, yes, lots.

Death-Dealer said:
There are many reasons for root. There always will be too.
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I was simply answering the question as it pertains to me.

For me, no reason to root. Only reason I did was for titanium backup but it caused more issues than it was worth. I restore with samsung backup and log back in to everything to start fresh everytime. I found that rooting to restore and start with dirty app data caused unwanted results. There is not 1 thing I need root for now days
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root is MUST, I do not need a phone without it, period !!
Maybe, one day we can get root with AOSP out of the box. ohh, dreams !!
at least for now we have UK version Note 8 N950F that has unlocked bootloader, and works with multiple bands !! unfortunately it's the only version that supports everything, would be nice to have 256gb on board.
microsd cards is really garbage laggy crap, which will die on you anytime.

I had the S8+ and my version didn't have root, so I was forced to live without it.
I'll be getting my hands on the Note 8 in a couple of days, and my plan now is NOT to root it, regardless of whether root is available. The reason is because what I LOSE from root now outweighs what I gain from it.
The main thing that I lose from root? SECURE FOLDER!
This has become really valuable to me. I lost it after rooting the Note 7 so never really got to use it, but after having used it on the S8+, I don't think I'm willing to give it up.
Like others have already pointed out, the benefits of root aren't that important anymore:
- Titanium backup for restoring apps - mostly done by Samsung's restore, and my most important apps to port over with data have their own backup/restore functions anyway (ie. Wechat and Whatsapp)
- Other root apps like Greenify - Samsung already has similar functions built-in
- Backup of entire phone - can live without it
- custom roms - Samsung already has most of the stuff I wanted from custom roms anyway, like showing the battery percentage on notification bar, etc.
- Accessing root directory - oh well, too bad. Won't die without this ability.

Yes, I'm rooted, for AdAway mainly.
As others have said, most thing you needed root for you can do without root now. For me it was Call Recording and changing the DPI, both of which i could do perfectly on my N8 before rooting it.

I have rooted Note 4 but now do not see point why i need to do for note 8
1 Will trigger know and other samsung security services
2 The all point why Samsung not allowing to root is for security reason as it is all point how to secure you data
Just imagine you have rooted - Now phone stolen + it is rooted so you have open doors to you all content emails contacts etc "Im not sure if all right but if you have root you can access anything on the phone maybe im wrong?"
Im not programmer to use full potential of root if you do not know what are you doing -can make phone work slower that faster
all non system programs you can disable in app To remove samsung thing yes maybe will be good thing, but it is samsung phone so I can blame samsung because they put samsung services Just if do not want to use them do not use

_MetalHead_ said:
I haven't rooted a phone in at least a couple years. No need anymore. On the Note 8, practically anything can be disabled, themes don't need root, there are amazing root-free adblockers now, and performance is killer. Why waste time tinkering with the phone when I can be enjoying it instead?
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LOL, you know this is a DEV website right? Where people hang out to root phones, because they want to. Because they enjoy it.

If you don't root then what developer will do Lol !
Anyway, loosing Spay and secure folder is currently challenging, may be some workaround appear later. Also development is at early stage so may you can wait till you find good reason for it. By the way, rooted mine almost in no time after getting it on 21st.

Brava27 said:
LOL, you know this is a DEV website right? Where people hang out to root phones, because they want to. Because they enjoy it.
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So THAT'S why it's called "XDA developers"? In my 7 years here you would think I'd have figured that out!
Again. I answered the question as it pertains to me. I've rooted more phones than not, I just don't feel the need anymore.

Note 9 verizon

Any root? Unlocking bootloader available? If not do you think it will come. I like Verizon because of the reception i get but it annoying as hell that the past several phones I've had I can't unlock.

austtint said:
Any root? Unlocking bootloader available? If not do you think it will come. I like Verizon because of the reception i get but it annoying as hell that the past several phones I've had I can't unlock.
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Very unlikely, as is the case for the USA versions of the S9/S9+. If there were any possibilities of root via engineering boot, something like samfail/sampwn would have been out already.

austtint said:
Any root? Unlocking bootloader available? If not do you think it will come. I like Verizon because of the reception i get but it annoying as hell that the past several phones I've had I can't unlock.
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This has been discussed ad nauseum on here.
The US and Canada and Note 9s do NOT have an unlockable bootloader. They will NEVER be unlocked. It won't happen. Before you say someone could work on it...they have been. Since the S7/Edge.
They won't be rooted. Not going to happen.
If you COULD root (you can't, you won't) it would PERMANENTLY trip Knox. It's irreversible. That would mean no Samsung Pay, Secure Folder, Samsung Pass, or Samsung Pass.
If you want to block ads, install AdHell 3.1.1. It's the best ad blocker and uses Knox itself to block ads. You can use it to disable any unwanted apps.
You can also uninstall/disable apps with ADB and no root.
There's really no need for custom kernels anymore. 4000 mAh battery last all day with hard use (6-8 hrs SOT), and the SD845 is smoking fast and smooth.
If you don't like TouchWiz, install a third party launcher and a theme from the Samsung store.
Almost anything you can do with root, I can do without.

mrao said:
Very unlikely, as is the case for the USA versions of the S9/S9+. If there were any possibilities of root via engineering boot, something like samfail/sampwn would have been out already.
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to add, an eng boot wont even flash on user devices.. i used eng system.img and combo firm which neither will work anymore even if it existed bcuz they now have binary checks.. u cant mix/match binaries anymore.. meaning u can have combo boot on stock rom.. i woukd assume itd be the same for all binaries (userdebug/factory/eng/user)

Excuse my ignorance to the matter looking to unlock from Verizon so I have a choice of the carrier any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated...

ROOT POSSIBLE?! 0day exploit CVE-2019-2215

So are we ready to gain root on SM-G960U and others?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateof...o-hundreds-of-millions-of-users/#68e63a235ea2
I am downloading the 0day and will be testing it on several unpached Samsung phones
"The bug is a local privilege escalation vulnerability that allows for a full compromise of a vulnerable device,"
Let's get this dirty santa v2 on the road

I'll hold off on updating cause I don't do much things on my phone that needs privacy anyway, but I doubt anyone would be able to still obtain root. Then again I don't really need root tbh. It'll just be nice once I upgrade so I can have a rooted dex station

RFE said:
So are we ready to gain root on SM-G960U and others?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateof...o-hundreds-of-millions-of-users/#68e63a235ea2
I am downloading the 0day and will be testing it on several unpached Samsung phones
"The bug is a local privilege escalation vulnerability that allows for a full compromise of a vulnerable device,"
Let's get this dirty santa v2 on the road
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Where are you downloading this?

the more i have lived without root, the more i realize that its just not that necessary anymore. It sucks that its suck a PITA and that the mfgs havent figured out a way to give us access to the stuff we want root for in the first place while protecting the vulnerable stuff at the same time. It cant be that crazy of a concept to put certain things in a protected shell and allow the other stuff to be less secured and give us all the good stuff of root without their panties being in a bunch about it.

It's not about security, it's about makin you use their bloatware/spyware. I want root to get out of the goolag. I don't trust them and without root I have no choice but to use their info harvesting services and apps. It's like being held at gunpoint and being forced to give up all privacy to the new international nazi organization called Google

I'm still on android 8.0 this is not a daily phone I can test if anyone has anything to test

Heathmcdonald said:
It's not about security, it's about makin you use their bloatware/spyware. I want root to get out of the goolag. I don't trust them and without root I have no choice but to use their info harvesting services and apps. It's like being held at gunpoint and being forced to give up all privacy to the new international nazi organization called Google
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i can see why youre on that thought path, but if youre so at arms over this, then why use a brand of phone that is notorious about not being very root friendly? Compile your own firmware, dont use android at all (there are alternatives). Why did you get a S9 in the first place? The S8 wasnt exactly a hotbed for root

How can I help? I also happen to have the SM-G960U on Android 8.0.0 UI 9. Security Patch Dec 1 2018. Def vulnerable. Been waiting for some type of exploit. Idc about Samsung pay or knox. I just want TWRP & FULL CONTROL of what I buy. EFS Backups.

youdoofus said:
i can see why youre on that thought path, but if youre so at arms over this, then why use a brand of phone that is notorious about not being very root friendly? Compile your own firmware, dont use android at all (there are alternatives). Why did you get a S9 in the first place? The S8 wasnt exactly a hotbed for root
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I had a s8+ it was rooted and I loved it even with the 80% battery I got like 8-10 hours of screeen on time and I didn't give it any thought whe I when I broke my phone. If I had known I would have just bought another s8+
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youdoofus said:
i can see why youre on that thought path, but if youre so at arms over this, then why use a brand of phone that is notorious about not being very root friendly? Compile your own firmware, dont use android at all (there are alternatives). Why did you get a S9 in the first place? The S8 wasnt exactly a hotbed for root
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I had a s8+ it was rooted and I loved it even with the 80% battery I got like 8-10 hours of screeen on time and I didn't give it any thought whe I when I broke my phone. If I had known I would have just bought another s8+ and besides that, all this stuff about Google hadn't came out yet. I can't afford another 5-700 for a new phone, I don't have a contract nor do I want one but I assure you that when I buy another one it won't be Samsung

May have a way to root.
Hello I was able to download vmos and in settings is option to turn on root. It's a phone emulator so it's a primative root but I was able to transfer everything to vmos and when I run root checker it says root is successful and I can run all the root apps. But I also have a question has anyone used this work around and would I be possible to flash anything this way? Or would the twrp through the app work like it would normally? But I gained root this way without unlocking bootloader. Could possibly be a way to somehow use this backdoor to gain the real root. But so far everything works how it should. I'll keep everyone posted on happens when I try to flash somthing through twrp in vmos.

Root

Hey, I have not rooted a device since S5. Up till now I have not had a reaso too. So can someone please telm me the benefits of rooting the S10 5G on Android 10. I am on the fence right now.
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GastonC said:
Hey, I have not rooted a device since S5. Up till now I have not had a reaso too. So can someone please telm me the benefits of rooting the S10 5G on Android 10. I am on the fence right now.
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Hey mate, over the years the main benefits of root have become less and less... Important per say compared to the older days, but in saying that root does have the same benefit of complete control over the device. Some apps detect root and won't allow you to use them, bank apps, Pokemon go, Snapchat, google pay, but generally magisk hide, hiding the manager itself and some basic code editing in terminal for Google pays case is all that's needed as long as you don't very heavily modify the device, example Snapchat can work with magisk hide but if you use a edited services.jar is known to get detected regardless of magisk hide.
In saying that, unless your an enthusiast like myself who just loves tinkering just for the sake of it, or you don't care about warranty (country dependant), if you don't see any need/reason for root, then your answer is already answered.
I do hope others comment there opinions down below as this is just my own point of view.