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So who is waiting to root the S6 to see if Samsung Pay requires a Non-Tripped KNOX?
I am seriously on the fence about it, in my opinion it is about a 50% chance it will be required, and even then will I really use it all the time?
On the other hand I love root and the apps I have that require it.
What are your thoughts, Waiting or no?
*We are assuming that any root methods will trip KNOX. Even if root is achieved without tripping KNOX a ROM requiring a recovery WILL trip it anyways*
I'm in the same boat.. So much so that I'm debating if I want to keep this device. I enjoy custom roms way too much. Coming from a Lg G2 running 5.0.2 AICP rom, it was really great.
More worried that with Tmobile and JUMP if I ever need to get a replacement device, that KNOX will cause issues when they receive my device. With my G2, i returned it but after I reverted to stock.
This is the first time I'm actually afraid to root and install custom recovery. I only have 6 days to decide if I want to keep this before i have to send in my g2 for jump
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I'm in the same boat.. So much so that I'm debating if I want to keep this device. I enjoy custom roms way too much. Coming from a Lg G2 running 5.0.2 AICP rom, it was really great.
More worried that with Tmobile and JUMP if I ever need to get a replacement device, that KNOX will cause issues when they receive my device. With my G2, i returned it but after I reverted to stock.
This is the first time I'm actually afraid to root and install custom recovery. I only have 6 days to decide if I want to keep this before i have to send in my g2 for jump
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Two things to keep in mind:
T-Mobile doesnt care about JUMP even in warranty situations. Revert it back to stock and go on your merry way. Only Samsung cares and under JUMP you have warranty care as well, so T-Mo not Samsung takes care of the claims/replacement device
AOSP Roms may not come to the S6 for a while, at least not stable. The Exynos processor is notorious for poor support from AOSP roms like AICP, CM, SLiM and others.. Just a heads up
I will put this right here the next big root is here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6/help/cf-auto-root-tmo-s6-t3069386
I'm aware Aosp isnt stable, which is fine. I'm ok with at least a stock base thats been modded. Custom kernal would be great to make the phone more energy efficient
I'll give things some time and see what happen
opieum said:
I will put this right here the next big root is here.
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We know root is available, it's been available since before the pre-order even went live. It still trips Knox though, and that's the discussion.
Personally, I'm waiting until either Knox can be bypassed, or we get confirmation that Samsung Pay won't need it. Somehow I doubt either will happen, but I'm willing to wait a while to find out.
tlxxxsracer: Don't count on custom kernels, but that goes without saying. A modified base would be nice, AOSP would be wonderful but unrealistic. Honestly at this point, the only reason I want root is Titanium Backup, an ad blocker and putting the Nexus dialer/contacts on the phone. Touchwiz dialer is simply awful.
Don't care. Rooted. Can't stand ads and need tethering (AT&T corporate account). But I would root just to block the ads. I accept the consequences and if I can't use Samsung pay, I'll simply use Google wallet, which will work everywhere Apple Pay is accepted anyway.
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Don't care. Rooted. Can't stand ads and need tethering (AT&T corporate account). But I would root just to block the ads. I accept the consequences and if I can't use Samsung pay, I'll simply use Google wallet, which will work everywhere Apple Pay is accepted anyway.
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Root without a hitch?
Brava27 said:
Root without a hitch?
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Rooted here without a hitch.
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greyhulk said:
Don't care. Rooted. Can't stand ads and need tethering (AT&T corporate account). But I would root just to block the ads. I accept the consequences and if I can't use Samsung pay, I'll simply use Google wallet, which will work everywhere Apple Pay is accepted anyway.
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Ritual82 said:
Rooted here without a hitch.
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I assume there isn't a recovery yet
Brava27 said:
I assume there isn't a recovery yet
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Correct, hopefully soon.
entropism said:
We know root is available, it's been available since before the pre-order even went live. It still trips Knox though, and that's the discussion.
Personally, I'm waiting until either Knox can be bypassed, or we get confirmation that Samsung Pay won't need it. Somehow I doubt either will happen, but I'm willing to wait a while to find out.
tlxxxsracer: Don't count on custom kernels, but that goes without saying. A modified base would be nice, AOSP would be wonderful but unrealistic. Honestly at this point, the only reason I want root is Titanium Backup, an ad blocker and putting the Nexus dialer/contacts on the phone. Touchwiz dialer is simply awful.
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How do you put the nexus dialer/contacts on the phone?? You are running a TouchWiz based ROM so I imagine it won't just be that easy... I been trying to get it to work on my S5 but to no avail lol -__-
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How do you put the nexus dialer/contacts on the phone?? You are running a TouchWiz based ROM so I imagine it won't just be that easy... I been trying to get it to work on my S5 but to no avail lol -__-
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You need to have root, and then install it as a system app.
http://pocketnow.com/2013/12/26/install-google-dialer
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You need to have root, and then install it as a system app.
http://pocketnow.com/2013/12/26/install-google-dialer
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That is the KitKat one though I believe, any chance you have a link to get the Lollipop version one working?
Brava27 said:
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No issues.
JoeFCaputo113 said:
That is the KitKat one though I believe, any chance you have a link to get the Lollipop version one working?
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Not personally, but it shouldn't be too hard to apply. Just an old article from before Lollipop.
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Not personally, but it shouldn't be too hard to apply. Just an old article from before Lollipop.
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So you have an S6 with this working on it? Care to share a screenie?
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So you have an S6 with this working on it? Care to share a screenie?
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Uhhhh... no? Like I said, I'm waiting on root.
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Uhhhh... no? Like I said, I'm waiting on root.
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S6 already has root.... Only phones that have shipped are T-Mo and they are the only one's with root anyway..
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S6 already has root.... Only phones that have shipped are T-Mo and they are the only one's with root anyway..
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Joe, reread my posts. I am choosing NOT TO ROOT, because I'm holding off for an option that either doesn't trip knox, or confirmation that tripping knox doesn't void Samsung Pay. Stated that in my first post.
So as we all know if you root your device it troops knox which than breaks samsung pay. I know ir was done on the s6. I b was wondering if there is any news about rooting note5 n able to keep samsung pay?.
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So as we all know if you root your device it troops knox which than breaks samsung pay. I know ir was done on the s6. I b was wondering if there is any news about rooting note5 n able to keep samsung pay?.
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Really hoping for this too. I'm on verizon so no chance of root unless there's a way to do it without tripping KNOX.
Any android phone without root is a battery drainer.
K.0.0.L. said:
Any android phone without root is a battery drainer.
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That has got to be the silliest (and most incorrect) thing I've seen posted on XDA in 9 years. Oh, wait.. no.. there was something sillier. I remember when someone suggested that Samsung was going to be developer-friendly.
My Samsung Tablet non rooted says it currently has 18 days left on the battery. It has been on for 3 days. I use it for games at night. Not a phone but ehh close enough
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That has got to be the silliest (and most incorrect) thing I've seen posted on XDA in 9 years. Oh, wait.. no.. there was something sillier. I remember when someone suggested that Samsung was going to be developer-friendly.
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Fully agree!!!
Go for package disabler pro and you can turn off almost any process on your puppy...
garyd9 said:
That has got to be the silliest (and most incorrect) thing I've seen posted on XDA in 9 years. Oh, wait.. no.. there was something sillier. I remember when someone suggested that Samsung was going to be developer-friendly.
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I'm speaking from experience. Of course, everyone has its own opinion.
I think we are distracted from the topic.
i am also a note 5 user, and up until now, i haven't rooted it. i don't know why i don't carry that enthusiasm when i got the phone, unlike when i owned the Note 3 and note 4. maybe because my note 5 is already buttery smooth, or i am afraid to root it now since i can't find any safer way to root it, or maybe i am just being confused of the way we root it now. anyhow, when i was using the note 3, i also have the problem with s-health not working when i rooted note 3. so what i did was, i rooted the damn phone anyway, installed system app mover, backed up s-health applications, then move it off to system app to user application. rebooted the phone and open s-health, well what do you know? it worked. but i don't tried this on samsung pay since i don't have it on my phone, because of our region. anyway, try that solution maybe it will work for you, and if it worked, just keep in my mind that there will be no guarantee about your samsung pay security.
good luck.
Is there a way to get temporary root so it then won't trip knox?
I work at Samsung UK and rooting is possible to do, but I would make sure you find someone who has already done it. It is not just Samsung Pay that stops working, most Banking apps will stop working also as it won't be able to authenticate your device. You will also Void your Samsung Warranty.
Proceed carefully.
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I work at Samsung UK and rooting is possible to do, but I would make sure you find someone who has already done it. It is not just Samsung Pay that stops working, most Banking apps will stop working also as it won't be able to authenticate your device. You will also Void your Samsung Warranty.
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I don't mean to be rude (it happens naturally without any effort whatsoever), but what is the purpose of this post? To warn people against rooting, or to suggest that it's possible to root without tripping KNOX?
If the former, that's pretty much a given (and the community has found ways around many of those issues.) If the latter, your post could be considered by many to be a troll without giving real information.
I'd donate for a root on my note 5 that doesnt trip knox.
Yeah I'll pay for this to I'll set down $30 to whoever can get this and prove it and what not.
plz
Get me a root that doesent trip knox coz my name...
Has this been done yet?
WARNING: YOU WILL LOSE ALL OF YOUR DATA SO MAKE SURE YOU BACKUP ANY IMPORTANT FILES
I found a way to root without tripping Knox. Well, kinda. Root as normal (yes you will trip Knox) install twrp, and use twrp to wipe all partitions (except the recovery partition of course), and then re-install the stock files with Odin and flash the super su binary with TWRP BEFORE BOOTING INTO ANDROID the results should be a rooted Note 5 with a Knox counter of 0 no one try this just yet, but I'm 90% sure that's how I did it before. Once I get home from vacation I'll double check and write up a more detailed guide. :good:
ThePhxRises said:
... Root as normal (yes you will trip Knox) install twrp...
... the results should be a rooted Note 5 with a Knox counter of 0
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KNOX will still be tripped. There's no known way to "untrip" knox. It's like a fuse. Even if it doesn't show as modified inside of android's settings, it will still show in ODIN mode.
garyd9 said:
KNOX will still be tripped. There's no known way to "untrip" knox. It's like a fuse. Even if it doesn't show as modified inside of android's settings, it will still show in ODIN mode.
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I've done this before, works fine for me, as far as Samsung pay goes it still works
ThePhxRises said:
I've done this before, works fine for me, as far as Samsung pay goes it still works
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Sure. Okay.
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Sure. Okay.
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Whether or not it logically should work doesn't really matter, all that matters is it has worked for me in the past. Maybe it was just a random occurrence, but as soon as I have the chance I'll see if I can recreate the results
How many user have rooted the new device?
M.
I haven't rooted a phone in at least a couple years. No need anymore. On the Note 8, practically anything can be disabled, themes don't need root, there are amazing root-free adblockers now, and performance is killer. Why waste time tinkering with the phone when I can be enjoying it instead?
I rooted my phone. There is no adblocker like AdAway and I enjoy tinkering with it.
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I haven't rooted a phone in at least a couple years. No need anymore. On the Note 8, practically anything can be disabled, themes don't need root, there are amazing root-free adblockers now, and performance is killer. Why waste time tinkering with the phone when I can be enjoying it instead?
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There are many reasons for root. There always will be too.
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Moniclock said:
How many user have rooted the new device?
M.
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Depends, none in the US or with a snapdragon version. Exynos, yes, lots.
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There are many reasons for root. There always will be too.
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I was simply answering the question as it pertains to me.
For me, no reason to root. Only reason I did was for titanium backup but it caused more issues than it was worth. I restore with samsung backup and log back in to everything to start fresh everytime. I found that rooting to restore and start with dirty app data caused unwanted results. There is not 1 thing I need root for now days
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root is MUST, I do not need a phone without it, period !!
Maybe, one day we can get root with AOSP out of the box. ohh, dreams !!
at least for now we have UK version Note 8 N950F that has unlocked bootloader, and works with multiple bands !! unfortunately it's the only version that supports everything, would be nice to have 256gb on board.
microsd cards is really garbage laggy crap, which will die on you anytime.
I had the S8+ and my version didn't have root, so I was forced to live without it.
I'll be getting my hands on the Note 8 in a couple of days, and my plan now is NOT to root it, regardless of whether root is available. The reason is because what I LOSE from root now outweighs what I gain from it.
The main thing that I lose from root? SECURE FOLDER!
This has become really valuable to me. I lost it after rooting the Note 7 so never really got to use it, but after having used it on the S8+, I don't think I'm willing to give it up.
Like others have already pointed out, the benefits of root aren't that important anymore:
- Titanium backup for restoring apps - mostly done by Samsung's restore, and my most important apps to port over with data have their own backup/restore functions anyway (ie. Wechat and Whatsapp)
- Other root apps like Greenify - Samsung already has similar functions built-in
- Backup of entire phone - can live without it
- custom roms - Samsung already has most of the stuff I wanted from custom roms anyway, like showing the battery percentage on notification bar, etc.
- Accessing root directory - oh well, too bad. Won't die without this ability.
Yes, I'm rooted, for AdAway mainly.
As others have said, most thing you needed root for you can do without root now. For me it was Call Recording and changing the DPI, both of which i could do perfectly on my N8 before rooting it.
I have rooted Note 4 but now do not see point why i need to do for note 8
1 Will trigger know and other samsung security services
2 The all point why Samsung not allowing to root is for security reason as it is all point how to secure you data
Just imagine you have rooted - Now phone stolen + it is rooted so you have open doors to you all content emails contacts etc "Im not sure if all right but if you have root you can access anything on the phone maybe im wrong?"
Im not programmer to use full potential of root if you do not know what are you doing -can make phone work slower that faster
all non system programs you can disable in app To remove samsung thing yes maybe will be good thing, but it is samsung phone so I can blame samsung because they put samsung services Just if do not want to use them do not use
_MetalHead_ said:
I haven't rooted a phone in at least a couple years. No need anymore. On the Note 8, practically anything can be disabled, themes don't need root, there are amazing root-free adblockers now, and performance is killer. Why waste time tinkering with the phone when I can be enjoying it instead?
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LOL, you know this is a DEV website right? Where people hang out to root phones, because they want to. Because they enjoy it.
If you don't root then what developer will do Lol !
Anyway, loosing Spay and secure folder is currently challenging, may be some workaround appear later. Also development is at early stage so may you can wait till you find good reason for it. By the way, rooted mine almost in no time after getting it on 21st.
Brava27 said:
LOL, you know this is a DEV website right? Where people hang out to root phones, because they want to. Because they enjoy it.
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So THAT'S why it's called "XDA developers"? In my 7 years here you would think I'd have figured that out!
Again. I answered the question as it pertains to me. I've rooted more phones than not, I just don't feel the need anymore.
Im confused.....I was wanting to get a Note8 and have the option to Root. I currently have a rooted Note2 and service with ATT but none of their new phones have the OEM developer switch. Will this prevent me from rooting? What options do I have? If it is necessary for root, can I get my phone elsewhere(possibly from Samsung) with OEM dev option and still use it with ATT? If so ..... where? TIA
coming from a Note 2, is there any reason you would NEED root on a note 8?
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coming from a Note 2, is there any reason you would NEED root on a note 8?
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I am not a developer and only have a stock chainfire root on my Note2(no custom Roms). I do enjoy some of the apps that require root. i.e.- titanium backup, twrp, SuperSu, AdBlock Plus, Solid Explorer, ES File Explorer, Viper4Android(Audio), Dolby Digital, Wakelock Detector, Xposed Framework, Magisk, Servicely, Tasker, System App Remover and I like having the options that root provides...
Are you saying I dont need root if I get the Note 8...... or are you implying that maybe I dont know enough to attempt what it would take to do it. Im not technically challenged but I am 70 and things are harder for me than they were a few years ago.
Believe me, an honest answer will be more helpful than hurtful.....
Thanks
I used to root and rom my note 2/3/4 as I liked the control and advantages it brung but with the Note 8 I just haven't even considered it, of course our needs/wants are different but I'd say just get the Note 8 and im sure you won't be disappointed no matter what, even if it means finding a few workarounds to achieve 1 or 2 things root provided on your note 2.
getting the 8 will make you feel you just did time travel
Chasoscar said:
I am not a developer and only have a stock chainfire root on my Note2. I do enjoy some of the apps that require root. i.e.- titanium backup, twrp, SuperSu, AdBlock Plus, Solid Explorer, ES File Explorer, Viper4Android(Audio), Dolby Digital, Wakelock Detector, Xposed Framework, Magisk, Servicely, Tasker, System App Remover and I like having the options that root provides...
Are you saying I dont need root if I get the Note 8...... or are you implying that maybe I dont know enough to attempt what it would take to do it. Im not technically challenged but I am 70 and things are harder for me than they were a few years ago.
Believe me, an honest answer will be more helpful than hurtful.....
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If you want root go note 8 exynos. Root/rom for snapdragon is locked down serving life with no chance of parole aka bootloader locked. Root not hard on exynos if you read the guides carefully. A lot of apps you metion can be replicated with non root apps. Samsung has 1 of the best stock androids.
I'd take roms anyday over stock. People smoking crack if they choose the other. 70 and on xda still on here? Props to you sir.
Thanks...... yeah, I just dont like all the ATT bloat and to be honest I dont like them telling me what I can or cant do with a phone that I own....
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Thanks...... yeah, I just dont like all the ATT bloat and to be honest I dont like them telling me what I can or cant do with a phone that I own....
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The go Note 8 exynos. None of the US carriers will have that version, all of them snapdragon. So you will have to order online. I don't blame you and feel the same. I am to much of a broke college kid. Carriers only 1s who offer affordable payment plan fml. Unfortunately that means snapdragon for me
What's everyone's view of rooting the pixel unlocked version? What features won't work? I know knox for samsung trips when unlocking. Is it the same concept with Pixels? My last device similar was a nexus 6 so yeah..
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What's everyone's view of rooting the pixel unlocked version? What features won't work?
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Any feature that relies on Safetynet won't work and there is simply no way around that.
With Samsung, KNOX is a "fuse" that gets tripped so after you unlock the bootloader there's no going back. It'll forever know the bootloader has been unlocked at some point which messes with certain features (depending on make/model). With the Pixel phones you can flash the stock software and then re-lock the bootloader if you want. Once re-locked the OS sees the factory state and everything works as usual. Just make sure you've got the stock software flashed before you re-lock the bootloader or you risk bricking the device.
As a side note, with biometric security, make sure you've properly logged out of your Google account and removed all stored fingerprints or faces BEFORE you unlock. The unlocking process will wipe the device but your biometrics are still stored. If that happens you have to go through the setup process without biometrics and then perform a "proper" factory reset within the Android OS in order to get biometrics working again.
Of course the Pixel 5 is a new phone, so I'm giving this info based on currently released devices. There are always risks when you alter the factory state so be warned. There's a phrase my old boss used to use: "Pioneers take the arrows, settlers take the land." Not very PC but the underlying concept is sound.
I'll root asap. These days, I use it mainly for effective Adblock. The occasional app goes wonky, but it's a game of cat and mouse with safety-net.
YMMV etc
kboya said:
I'll root asap. These days, I use it mainly for effective Adblock. The occasional app goes wonky, but it's a game of cat and mouse with safety-net.
YMMV etc
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The cat and mouse game is over, Google won. With hardware backed encrypted key negotiation it is no longer possible or feasible to beat. TNMTV (There's No Mileage To Vary)
That doesn't mean you can't root, just that there are consequences. For me, those consequences far outweigh any perceived benefit of having root access. I won't be rooting any more phones.
SteveYoungs said:
The cat and mouse game is over, Google won. With hardware backed encrypted key negotiation it is no longer possible or feasible to beat. TNMTV (There's No Mileage To Vary)
That doesn't mean you can't root, just that there are consequences. For me, those consequences far outweigh any perceived benefit of having root access. I won't be rooting any more phones.
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What's the best adblocker for a non-rooted phone right now?
Guys, since Android 9 you don't have to root in order to adblock. Just use the private DNS option together with something like nextdns.io . It's also battery efficient, since it's not a VPN.
SteveYoungs said:
The cat and mouse game is over, Google won. With hardware backed encrypted key negotiation it is no longer possible or feasible to beat. TNMTV (There's No Mileage To Vary)
That doesn't mean you can't root, just that there are consequences. For me, those consequences far outweigh any perceived benefit of having root access. I won't be rooting any more phones.
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We'll see what happens because, as you make clear when you include experiences, MAV (Mileage Always Varies).
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Guys, since Android 9 you don't have to root in order to adblock. Just use the private DNS option together with something like nextdns.io . It's also battery efficient, since it's not a VPN.
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True, but when I tried that after 9's release it wasn't particularly effective or at least not as effective as Adaway w Magisk's systemless solution. Maybe I'll give it another go on the P5.
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Blockada, but download the App from the developer Website (play store Version doesnt get Updates Quick)
Pixel 5 will be the first device i dont plan to unlock+root, most benefits of rooting are gone in the last years because they got baked into Android. For adblocking there is Blockada which is as good as rooted adblock. I dont need a custom rom with stock clean Android and monthly Updates anymore. For debloating you dont need root, just a PC so i am going to deactivate most Google Apps.
Adblock so has a non-root version now.
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We'll see what happens because, as you make clear when you include experiences, MAV (Mileage Always Varies).
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Prediction: I'll eventually die of old age and you still won't be passing Safetynet. ☺
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The cat and mouse game is over, Google won. With hardware backed encrypted key negotiation it is no longer possible or feasible to beat. TNMTV (There's No Mileage To Vary)
That doesn't mean you can't root, just that there are consequences. For me, those consequences far outweigh any perceived benefit of having root access. I won't be rooting any more phones.
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If you know what you are doing there is no issues with Android 11, Magisk and safety net.
I can still use Google Pay and my banking apps without modules and nonsense coding. Just use Magisk and that is it. Oh of course you will need to hide a few apps in the Magisk settings.
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One thing to keep in mind is warranty and insurance (if you have insurance) claims.
If you have to use the warranty or insurance and you are unable to revert to factory default then warranty and insurance claims will be a huge pain.
vandyman said:
If you know what you are doing there is no issues with Android 11, Magisk and safety net.
I can still use Google Pay and my banking apps without modules and nonsense coding. Just use Magisk and that is it. Oh of course you will need to hide a few apps in the Magisk settings.
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Sorry, but no. See: https://www.xda-developers.com/safetynet-hardware-attestation-hide-root-magisk
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Sorry, but no. See: https://www.xda-developers.com/safetynet-hardware-attestation-hide-root-magisk
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Anything is possible, we go through this year after year with new updates to the software.
Google has always aloud its devices to have an unlocked boot loader and to be developed.
I personally don't see Google closing down its development. If they do, they will be out of the phone business. Most peeps buy the Google device for the freedom of development. I for one would buy something different if I could not root anymore.
Now for other manufacturers, it is a lot harder for them because they have there own software for their hardware and it is not compatible with the Google OS.
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vandyman said:
Anything is possible, we go through this year after year with new updates to the software.
Google has always aloud its devices to have an unlocked boot loader and to be developed.
I personally don't see Google closing down its development. If they do, they will be out of the phone business. Most peeps buy the Google device for the freedom of development. I for one would buy something different if I could not root anymore.
Now for other manufacturers, it is a lot harder for them because they have there own software for their hardware and it is not compatible with the Google OS.
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The Verizon versions of the Google Pixel 3Xl were locked down. I wouldn't say Giggle always allowed phones to be rooted. However, the ones sold by Google were rootable.
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Eudeferrer said:
The Verizon versions of the Google Pixel 3Xl were locked down. I wouldn't say Giggle always allowed phones to be rooted. However, the ones sold by Google were rootable.
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You are right. Verizon versions of Google devices will always be locked down.
If I remember correctly the last and only time that version allowed a Google unlocked device was a Samsung/Google Galaxy Nexus.
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SteveYoungs said:
Sorry, but no. See: https://www.xda-developers.com/safetynet-hardware-attestation-hide-root-magisk
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You said your not rooted right? You can still force basic key attestation (only needed for some devices), change device fingerprint, etc. Lots of things to do to pass safety net at the moment. Has worked fine for me ever since topjohnwu releaased that news.
vandyman said:
Anything is possible, we go through this year after year with new updates to the software.
Google has always aloud its devices to have an unlocked boot loader and to be developed.
I personally don't see Google closing down its development. If they do, they will be out of the phone business. Most peeps buy the Google device for the freedom of development. I for one would buy something different if I could not root anymore.
Now for other manufacturers, it is a lot harder for them because they have there own software for their hardware and it is not compatible with the Google OS.
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Hardware attestation does not prevent you from unlocking your boot loader, and it does not prevent you from rooting. What it does do is make passing Safetynet impossible if you are rooted, unlocked boot loader.
This is not something that will one day be worked around. The days of passing Safetynet on a rooted device are behind us.
SteveYoungs said:
Hardware attestation does not prevent you from unlocking your boot loader, and it does not prevent you from rooting. What it does do is make passing Safetynet impossible if you are rooted, unlocked boot loader.
This is not something that will one day be worked around. The days of passing Safetynet on a rooted device are behind us.
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Nothing has changed yet! I still can use Gpay with Magisk and without any add on.
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