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After watching several videos of it battling the Siri of iOS while I was awaiting my tablet, I was hyped about using this feature.
Now that I have had my tablet for almost almost a week now, it was overhyped and the accuracy was overblown in those videos on YouTube.
I know it's not my accent, since it gets my questions correctly, it just doesn't answer 'em.
I tried simple stuff too, like requesting for the current score of USA vs Korea in volleyball (when the game was going on), requesting for specific train times, requesting to see my calendar, asking it to see if I was busy on a certain day and time, and it just Google'd these questions, not telling me the answers (especially the last one; it Google'd "Am I busy at 4pm on this coming Monday?" instead of showing my calendar).
Hell even the simplest things like "show me my calendar" has it Googling that, and not actually showing me my calendar.
I've only ever successfully gotten it to tell me the weather, the time, set alarm, and tell me when the Olympics 2012 ends.
If Google Voice Search (or w/e they call it) is this bad, I wonder how bad Siri is, seeing how in those videos, Google beat Siri all the time.
Had a guy at work playing around with Siri, not very impressing, certainly nothing like the staged commercials. Technology is not there yet. I think that Dragon has a better voice recognition ability, (part of Swype Beta), but I have not played with their "Dragon Go" yet on my tablet. Didn't care for it much on my phone.
Printerscape said:
After watching several videos of it battling the Siri of iOS while I was awaiting my tablet, I was hyped about using this feature.
Now that I have had my tablet for almost almost a week now, it was overhyped and the accuracy was overblown in those videos on YouTube.
I know it's not my accent, since it gets my questions correctly, it just doesn't answer 'em.
I tried simple stuff too, like requesting for the current score of USA vs Korea in volleyball (when the game was going on), requesting for specific train times, requesting to see my calendar, asking it to see if I was busy on a certain day and time, and it just Google'd these questions, not telling me the answers (especially the last one; it Google'd "Am I busy at 4pm on this coming Monday?" instead of showing my calendar).
Hell even the simplest things like "show me my calendar" has it Googling that, and not actually showing me my calendar.
I've only ever successfully gotten it to tell me the weather, the time, set alarm, and tell me when the Olympics 2012 ends.
If Google Voice Search (or w/e they call it) is this bad, I wonder how bad Siri is, seeing how in those videos, Google beat Siri all the time.
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Siri answers a lot more of those types of questions, although it is definitely slower as the videos point out. Overall though, I rarely ask those questions anyways. I generally only ask about sports scores and weather or conversions, and a few more things.
I think they are both good at different things. Most of the YouTube videos I've seen seem to show of Google Nows speed a bit much. Hopefully what Google Now lacks.. now, it will make up for in later updates, assuming they are not harassed by Apple too much more.
I'd also like to mention that Google Now is not in any way a clone or copy of Siri. Voice recognition and human-like feedback have been strived towards since even before the USS-Enterprises computer did it in early Star-Trek Apple, or anyone recently claiming it was 'their idea' should be shot in the foot.
Didn't Google have to 'dumb' down their voice app because of the lawsuit Apple had against the Galaxy Nexus?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/29/apple-lands-preliminary-ban-against-samsung-galaxy-nexus/
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Apple, or anyone recently claiming it was 'their idea' should be shot in the foot.
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In the foot? I can think of another, less elegant location.
Is does work alot better than siri in alot of ways, then again this stuff was available since froyo. I believe Google said all those features are coming back
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ynnek63 said:
Didn't Google have to 'dumb' down their voice app because of the lawsuit Apple had against the Galaxy Nexus?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/29/apple-lands-preliminary-ban-against-samsung-galaxy-nexus/
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They removed local search (i.e., showing apps and contacts, etc., along with off-device search) from ALL on-device search, because it was the integrated search functionality specifically that was the patent that the judge found most likely to be upheld. Not related directly to voice.
But atleast Google now is better then S voice lol, I removed it from my G note.... For some reason it never worked for me : /
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I think it's pretty good, it's very accurate for me even in noisy environments.
It's just not very complex in it's abilities, which I agree with a member above is due to it being young technology rather than overrated per say.
As it's part of my phone and I use it more, I still find Siri far more frustrating and inaccurate. Oddly a series of jailbreaks make it far more capable and I'm wondering if we'll ever see similar hacking on Android.
Somewhat related, I'm just glad Google allows for offline dictation as there's nothing more annoying than a voice assistant telling you it's unavailable because you're in bad service area.
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It's just not very complex in it's abilities, which I agree with a member above is due to it being young technology rather than overrated per say.
As it's part of my phone and I use it more, I still find Siri far more frustrating and inaccurate. Oddly a series of jailbreaks make it far more capable and I'm wondering if we'll ever see similar hacking on Android.
Somewhat related, I'm just glad Google allows for offline dictation as there's nothing more annoying than a voice assistant telling you it's unavailable because you're in bad service area.
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Well, if not for the insanity that is Apple, it would have much more capabilities, but I find it pretty easy to use, accurate, and despite local search, pretty good.
Lolz, why people always believe that Apple make new things every time and now calling this Google now a siri clone.
Having used both siri and Google now, I think both are different and have different strength points and Google now doing more work than siri. Siri is more vocal though.
People think S voice is bad but I have found it more useful than siri and it can do device functions as well which siri can't.
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Google now isn't a siri clone and wasn't created to be one. Although I will admit that Google now works a lot better on my galaxy nexus, Google Now is pretty amazing. I love when I'm out somewhere that it tells me how much traffic I will have on my way home and will give me better directions.
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As somebody already said, the voice recognition is accurate but it just doesn't give you 'local' results. I tried to get it to display a book I have in Play Books or music in Play Music but it wouldn't open those apps. I use SpeakToIt Assistant, which seems to be much better at playing your music, reading calendar, sending SMS's (on my Sensation), etc.
I think it runs better actually... Tried it out next to an iPhone 4s and asked them both the questions at the same time and my Gnex blew it out of the water
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I think it runs better actually... Tried it out next to an iPhone 4s and asked them both the questions at the same time and my Gnex blew it out of the water
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Yes, I agree
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The OP complains mostly about calendar integration...which I agree ought to be included. It will, however, schedule reminders using alarms. I hope this isn't yet another patent issue....especially since voice commands have been in the works for years on multiple platforms. Heck, back in the 80s I had my Amiga executing various commands by voice...even telling me the time using Majel Roddenberry's voice after a 'computer. Time please' command. I programmed a bunch of voice commands using AREXX.
I find the voice feature very useful. On my galaxy nexus I asked it to call home depot and it called the nearest store and offered navigation and eta. It really makes for the ultimate hands free navigaion/calling system. It responds very quickly as well.
I would like it to SAY more. And I would pay good money if it sounded like Majel Roddenberry.
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I know that for people in the UK you have to tick the box for it to search from Google.com opposed to co.uk, otherwise it wont bring up pictures and certain cards (as answers to questions).
Also, change the language to english (US) to get the cute female voice opposed to our British male, ha.
But overall, nothing like the Youtube video where the guy asks 74 odd questions on Google Now. When i try, it just searches the same question...
For anyone who's not yet tried Google's new Handwrite feature for entering search terms, or rather fingerwriting them, it's working fine in Chrome on my N7 after I enabled Handwrite in my Google.com settings. Haven't tried it in other browsers yet.
Don't know if Google will update their standard search app to include this feature, but time will tell whether it's just a gimmick - voice search is probably faster perhaps. It's quite fun to play with though.
Thanks for sharing. Definitely nice having an alternative.
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Hell, typing is much faster. Writing with your fingers is a half-assed idea IMHO.
i tried it a few times imo it still needs some MAJOR tweaks. voice search works well and is fun to use. i do get strange looks at coffee shops talking into my N7.
speech to text for message boards & emails is priceless. also if your travelling use the speech to text in the translator now that is one good feature on the N7.
I know its life companion but they definitely meant it more as assistant (at least I hope so). But ya mine has been great. I really love the TV stuff, its actually really useful. S health isn't bad, and it runs all the apps I could possibly need. I don't know why, but I've been using their calendar and stuff and it integrates well. The eye stuff is actually useful. I love the rotation and the video pause. Camera is actually awesome and goes great with my bitcasa subscription. The multi window is another feature that is actually more useful
The hover thing is cool but more of a novelty, I wish they would have integrated it more. S voice sucks, its soo slow and gets text wrong all the time.
At the end of the day it doesn't really feel much more like a life assistant any more than other smartphones (I wouldn't call it a life companion or a life assistant) , but its defiantly a great smartphone.
So how do you feel the phone has held up to being a life companion/assistant ?
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I know its life companion but they definitely meant it more as assistant (at least I hope so). But ya mine has been great. I really love the TV stuff, its actually really useful. S health isn't bad, and it runs all the apps I could possibly need. I don't know why, but I've been using their calendar and stuff and it integrates well. The eye stuff is actually useful. I love the rotation and the video pause. Camera is actually awesome and goes great with my bitcasa subscription. The multi window is another feature that is actually more useful
The hover thing is cool but more of a novelty, I wish they would have integrated it more. S voice sucks, its soo slow and gets text wrong all the time.
At the end of the day it doesn't really feel much more like a life assistant any more than other smartphones (I wouldn't call it a life companion or a life assistant) , but its defiantly a great smartphone.
So how do you feel the phone has held up to being a life companion/assistant ?
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I love mine. She gets me lol. I'm not sure why your S Voice isn't working properly. My texts are very accurate. I rarely have an issue with it. I can't wait to use S Health when I go on my hiking trip at the end of this month. Nothing but positive feedback from me.
P1NK13P13 are you running TriForce 3.0 on baseband MF9 ?
Yes sir, I am... ♥ it!
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The TV remote and app is a cool extra, gps, bluetooth, nfc, camera all work great. I turned off all of the other extra features and just use it like a smartphone. I dont talk to my phone or wave at it or anything like that. It is best phone I have ever used and battery life is excellent. Getting up to 2 days with normal usage and a full day with heavy usage.
I don't use any samsung stuff, running ge. but I really love the hardware, it is so much faster, better in battery then the s3. not to mention the screen and camera. but really I use it like the last 2 galaxies before it. I really liked multi Window though.
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Voice control with music app is very handy. When people try to talk and you say "pause" then give them the look to go ahead and talk blows their mind. I still haven't learned all features but the Sammy commercials hit the nail on the head when people see my gs4.
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Does the Nuance Dragon Assistant work with the Moto X? Are we locked into using the Google Now if we want to talk with the X? Google is awesome, but Nuance has been working with speech recognition a long time. And they have programs out for Windows PCs. I know talking to a Jarvis is still a distant future. Competition is important, right?
Does Moto X have the right stuff to be competitive for 2 years? I've heard the stats aren't as impressive as was originally expected. I've also heard that stats alone aren't what makes the phone set apart from the pack. I'm not that interested in option to change up the designs. Talking to the phone is amazing, but if Dragon Assistant isn't on board then I'll reconsider.
AT&T: With a 2 year extension of contract, we're paying $200, plus some tax, upgrade/activation fee, and case. So, let's round up to $300. $300 plus the ongoing price of the month to month service. Am I going to be happy with the Moto X's performance with the needs upcoming apps will have?
I am with AT&T and might move from the Dell Streak 5. I love Dell Streak, but if I use it everyday I'll break that big screen. Which is why I'm not a big fan of the Galaxy s4 or even the HTC One. I can keep the Streak and swap SIM cards with the smaller Moto X as needed.
Love to hear your thoughts.
I can't really speak for 2-year performance, but it's super fast and buttery right now. More so than other, higher-specced phones, which are bogged down by stuff like touchwiz. Motorola did a really nice job with the optimizations. Dragon dictation does work but afaik you can't use it with touchless controls.
Also, it feels really nice in the hand.
Thanks to your post, I just discovered a completely new way to talk to my phone! I just installed Dragon and turned on the "listen in background" mode. Since the microphones are always on, dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!! This is pretty awesome!
Thanks for the great find!
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I can't really speak for 2-year performance, but it's super fast and buttery right now. More so than other, higher-specced phones, which are bogged down by stuff like touchwiz. Motorola did a really nice job with the optimizations. Dragon dictation does work but afaik you can't use it with touchless controls.
Also, it feels really nice in the hand.
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jhnl33 said:
Thanks to your post, I just discovered a completely new way to talk to my phone! I just installed Dragon and turned on the "listen in background" mode. Since the microphones are always on, dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!! This is pretty awesome!
Thanks for the great find!
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Alright....I'm getting some mixed messages here. "Can't use it with touchless controls"? That sucks! But wait...."dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!!" ??
buttery..:laugh:
Sorry, I didn't realize that Dragon had its own "listen in background" mode. So you can't use it instead of google now for the "ok google now" thing, but you can use dragon's own mode to activate it touchlessly.
MaggiesStreak said:
Alright....I'm getting some mixed messages here. "Can't use it with touchless controls"? That sucks! But wait...."dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!!" ??
buttery..:laugh:
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Yeah! I'm playing around with it now! I customized the wake-up phrase to be "Yo google" and have the "background wake-up" option ticked. I don't know about other phones, but I presume because the Moto X has always on mics, having Dragon using the mics all the time isn't much of a battery drain. It is true that you can't use it in conjunction with touchless controls, but in all honesty, moto's touchless controls aren't that great. Dragon is much more accurate and you can customize the key phrase!
Also, regarding your previous concerns; I really recommend the moto x. It's really the smoothest phone on the market right now and with google at the head, I can guarantee that updates will keep the Moto running smooth as it is right now. I mentioned that touchless controls were kind of meh (they trigger quite a bit even without saying "ok google now"), but active notifications are really the deal sealer here. I honestly can't live without active notifications anymore; it's just incredibly convenient.
Active notifications are amazing, hopefully Moto will add some improvements to the touchless controls with future updates
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terabyte128 said:
Active notifications are amazing, hopefully Moto will add some improvements to the touchless controls with future updates
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Alright..you two are good salespeople. I'll work on scrounging up the $600 or so.
I just finished a contract with AT&T, and I don't think I'm interested in signing another contract. My lifestyle for the next year will provide me with plenty of wifi to supplement the 2G cap pre-paid AT&T allows @$60/month. And the other deal in town is StraightTalk @$45/month also with a 2G cap, even though they say its unlimited.
I hear the Moto X price is going to drop some. I hope that Iphone C(heap) phone sells like hotcakes and the Moto X price rolls back.
Thank you for the follow up on the Dragon bit.:highfive: I even thought about calling Naunce Dragon to ask them.
Does it keep the phone awake? Or is this using the benefits of the NLP?
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Does it keep the phone awake? Or is this using the benefits of the NLP?
I'm still guessing that the Dragon always-listening mode takes up a lot of battery as it would on a "normal" phone. tl;dr I don't think it takes advantage of X's X8 always listening chip.
The below quotes are from my communications with the Nuance Mobility Zen Desk (https://nuancemobility.zendesk.com).
Me: Does Dragon Assistant work with Moto X the same way Google Now works with Moto X?
I'm thinking about buying the Moto X. However, I'm unable to find any information about the "touchless" features working with Dragon Assistant.
Moto X runs on Android 4.2.2. The touchless features focus on Google Now and a processor dedicated to an "always listening" microphone.
Moto X specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php
Their response: Hello,
Thank you for contacting us,
I can not really comment on how Google now is integrated with moto X. However, I can tell you about Dragon Mobile Assistant functionality.
Dragon does have "always listening" functionality under which the device can be accessed touch-less. This functionality is called "Driver mode".
More feature of Dragon Mobile Assistant can be checked at: http://www.dragonmobileapps.com/
Regards,
Nuance Mobility Support
Me: Under Driver Mode, the Dragon Assistant will make use of the always on micrphones, then correct? Instead of saying "ok Google" to start up the device's Google Now app I can say a.phrase designated by Dragon Assistant. Is that correct?
The Moto X carries three always-on Wolfson microphones that constantly listen for the words "OK Google Now," to turn on a "Touchless Control" system, waking up the handset for voice commands and searching via Google Now. Source: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/28/motox_teardown_onshoring_handset_costs/
Their response: Yes, Under driver mode, Dragon Assistant will be always using device microphones for continuously listening for customized wake-up command.
Regards,
Nuance Mobility Support
Does it seem like I'm asking a very specific question and getting a very general answer to anyone else? I thought I was very clear.
The Nuance Mobility Team must have politicians working for them.
Take a read of the reviews for the Maxx/Ultra/X! They are stellar. I disabled Google search & this works better. I like using my Jawbone headset button.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nuance.balerion&hl=en
I will say, functionally, I enjoy this far more than moto's touchless controls. But boy does it suck down the battery! Maybe if I was on a stock rom with the stock kernel, somehow some magic would happen and it would use the passive listening that's built in, but at least on AOSP based ROMs, in my experience, this thing will eat juice. i'm 15h on battery, 1.5h screen on, and 20%. 55% of the battery drain is from Dragon.
I think I'll keep it for driving, but maybe not for having on all the time.
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Take a read of the reviews for the Maxx/Ultra/X! They are stellar. I disabled Google search & this works better. I like using my Jawbone headset button.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nuance.balerion&hl=en
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Path A
Want to use touchless for BT only activation, you cannot. Constant listening or no BT.
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Use Dragon for BT only, have touchless off & have listening only at BT button activation.
Hi,
Recently i look Iron Man for 28858 times and alway i ask me if an IA as Jarvis have created ?
Have you got any informations about IA ?
Imagine an IA as Jarvis in your phone will very very cool.
Its A.I
and yeah I think it'd be pretty cool
but we have siri s voice and so on
hahagu said:
Its A.I
and yeah I think it'd be pretty cool
but we have siri s voice and so on
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I now Siri, Cortana, S voice but it's not as Jarvis... Jarvis is more develop than others A.I
yasings said:
I now Siri, Cortana, S voice but it's not as Jarvis... Jarvis is more develop than others A.I
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Yeah, but making a real life 'J.A.R.V.I.S' would be very hard. That would need a very powerful supercomputer, and a large database with 'real A.I' which means it is self conscious and thinking.
If that goes wrong, we can accidentally create a real life 'Ultron' instead of a 'J.A.R.V.I.S'
A proper Artificial Intelligence would require a Quantum Computer. Since those are not available, proper AI's can not be build.
Apple's Siri and Microsoft's Cortana are SI's, Simulated Intelligences. Google Now and S Voice are Digital Assistants. The difference between SI's and DA's is that SI's are programmed with a simulated personality, while DA's are not.
With the way that Microsoft is taking Windows 10 and data collection... I am not sure I want to see Microsoft's soon to be Windows 20 Cortana-AI.
Thanks boy and girl, but now i imagine i have an A.I as JARVIS i will stop to use my phone because what i need, jarvis do my task, am I wrong ?