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Moto X has me worried for Nexus 5

It seems Google has been so on point with nexus 4 and new nexus 7 plus all the updated apps I truly don't understand the point of the moto x. I mean at 200 on contract why would anyone buy this phone. Even though Google doesn't make the nexus why compete against yourself.
I have a feeling the nexus phone might either go away or not even be anything major this year. Its almost November what new processor would go in it. I am thinking this year the nexus 5 will be made by HTC and cost a lot more.
For some reason I like the material for the new nexus 7 and would like that as the back of the next nexus.
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Wasn't it confirmed that LG are making the nexus 5? Usually oems get two shots..... I liked the lockscreen on the moto X
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Fataldesain said:
It seems Google has been so on point with nexus 4 and new nexus 7 plus all the updated apps I truly don't understand the point of the moto x. I mean at 200 on contract why would anyone buy this phone. Even though Google doesn't make the nexus why compete against yourself.
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I mean, are they serious? Do they really think this is in the same league as the Galaxy S4 or iPhone 5 available at the same price?
I'm worried about a Nexus 5 now too. Cannibalize sales with a Nexus device or price the next Nexus way higher. Only the former is appealing to me and I'm sure it's not to Google.

I think the moto x is going to be a Microsoft kin type of failure. Is there some hidden features I am missing? HTC one, s4, new iPhone and even the nexus 4 are all better and same price. Why release all these versions like who cares for a dev edition x. I was thinking this phone would be free on contract and that would be the selling point.
Highly doubt a new nexus happening this year. I see Google just making the dev phones now.
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italia0101 said:
Wasn't it confirmed that LG are making the nexus 5? Usually oems get two shots..... I liked the lockscreen on the moto X
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LG said no.

Nexus 5 will be made by LG and so the Moto X does not have any bearing on it, or the Nexus program until such time that Motorola becomes a Nexus manufacturer.
This is just Moto still sucking. Not as terrible as before, but still bad.
Google needs to just take full reins of Motorola and turn them into a pure hardware arm of Google and not try to please everyone and end up pleasing no one.

vickpick said:
LG said no.
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They said no but they changed there mind. They just wanted to keep it a secret.
Also Moto X is only going to be released in the US as far as I read, which makes sense as its made in the US and customization from other countries will take time and effort.

MrPhilo said:
They said no but they changed there mind. They just wanted to keep it a secret.
Also Moto X is only going to be released in the US as far as I read, which makes sense as its made in the US and customization from other countries will take time and effort.
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Oh, I see. I don't see why they won't make their phones through Motorola since they own them. Better than paying Microsoft for phones that profit other companies.

I think Nexus 5 is the last project of the Nexus. Then Google completely focused on Motorola phones.
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Since the Nexus 4 is rather faulty imo (both H/W rev. 10 & rev. 11) - bad battery performance, getting abnormally warm during normal use (hate it), poor software optimization etc, I doubt that Google will keep rolling the nexus project along with LG. Samsung were fine partners.

Fatherboard said:
Since the Nexus 4 is rather faulty imo (both H/W rev. 10 & rev. 11) - bad battery performance, getting abnormally warm during normal use (hate it), poor software optimization etc, I doubt that Google will keep rolling the nexus project along with LG. Samsung were fine partners.
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Not quite sure what you are talking about. If you are facing all those problems, try using stock everything and see if the problem persists. There are 6 Nexus 4s among my family and friends and we dont face any bad battery performance, any stutters or anything. We are all on stock.

Fatherboard said:
Since the Nexus 4 is rather faulty imo (both H/W rev. 10 & rev. 11) - bad battery performance, getting abnormally warm during normal use (hate it), poor software optimization etc, I doubt that Google will keep rolling the nexus project along with LG. Samsung were fine partners.
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You never had a HTC One X? This gets way hotter than the Nexus 4.
Plus Nexus 4 back is made of glass, which is the reason you feel the heat more. All other phone such as HTC One and Samsung S4 has the same problem. This is due to the Snapdragon chip, not because of LG.

why not in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021559]

After owning a HTC One and moving to the Galaxy S4, I went back to the beautiful White Nexus 4. The feel in the hand of the nexus 4 is superior to any phone I have owned even though it has some lower specs

not worried here, Moto X is aimed to completely different kind of users, Nexus is aimed more for developers and Android Fans, Moto X has a locked bootloader and will be distributed via carriers. I think that the challenge is for Samsung or HTC which sells devices in similar conditions (not to mention apple). I Also think it depends of the kind of user you are.

dkotoric said:
After owning a HTC One and moving to the Galaxy S4, I went back to the beautiful White Nexus 4. The feel in the hand of the nexus 4 is superior to any phone I have owned even though it has some lower specs
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Completely agree. Although i own both HTC One and Nexus 4, i find myself using my Nexus 4 more than my HTC One.And if Google was to make it their last project, they may as well go out with a bang! I'm talking Sony Xperia Z water proof body, Nokia's 41MP with 6 or 7 (i dont know how many they have now lol) elements camera lens, and full AOSP OS = my dream phone.
Behold The Google Nexus Lumia Z....is what i'm thinking lol.

I just want the moto x to be ported
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Everyone something new comes out everyone starts complaining. So what that the moto x is running near stock with some cool features. So what that battery life is supposedly improved. So what that the camera is far superior. So what that Motorolas radios are usually really good. So what that benchmarks are on par with stock Nexus 4. So what that there will be a 32 GB Model. All the things that everyone complains about with the Nexus 4 is improved upon with the moto x. I love my Nexus 4. But I'm really tempted to get the developer addition depending on the cost. My concern is that asop based roms will not have all the features working since I'm sure all the teams are closed source
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randomnoob83 said:
I just want the moto x to be ported
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Same heree or I want these features in KLP or some kind of Google update.. but let's not complain and see what Google will give our Nexus.

it's got a nice lockscreen hopefully someone can port it when the device is opened by devs

Goodbye Nexus 5!! Google takes Nexus 5 off the new "Google Store"

Google announced the new Google store but the listing of Nexus 5 is gone .
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2015/03/meet-updated-chromebook-pixel-and-new.html
Clicking phones on https://store.google.com/ take you to the Nexus 6 listing https://store.google.com/product/nexus_6
The Nexus 5 has no place on the new site. This was speculated a while ago but just the feeling of it being off the store is awful.
I love the Nexus 5 with its quirks, endless issues and powerful specs at the price we never imagined.

Yep, not available for sale anymore https://store.google.com/product/nexus_5

I really do hope they replace it with another 5" device.
I'd love for there to always be both a "normal" phone and a phablet in the Nexus line.
Especially since I have no desire for a phablet, and I've only ever purchased nexus devices. I managed to skip the Nexus 6, but my N5 definitely won't last another year after.

I think it was taken off sale on purpose to push nexus 6 sales, me personally id rather have the 5. The 6 is nice but i know from nexus devices they are usually cheap and good for performance with a few corners cut, I couldn't buy the 6 for its price knowing there is better phones out there at a cheaper price

vincy24 said:
Google announced the new Google store but the listing of Nexus 5 is gone .
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2015/03/meet-updated-chromebook-pixel-and-new.html
Clicking phones on https://store.google.com/ take you to the Nexus 6 listing https://store.google.com/product/nexus_6
The Nexus 5 has no place on the new site. This was speculated a while ago but just the feeling of it being off the store is awful.
I love the Nexus 5 with its quirks, endless issues and powerful specs at the price we never imagined.
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Loved my Nexus 5. Loved it. Slightly bigger screen (5'2"), bigger battery, it would have been perfect.
I sold it for the Moto Maxx (same specs as Nexus 6, also made by Motorola but 5.2" and 3900 mAh battery) but I still have fond memories. And my wife loves her Nexus 5.
For the specs it had and the price, it was fantastic.

yup , its gone from indian play store too ..

We will see it return.. Stronger and faster than it was before..
Cue Six Million Dollar Man theme music.

who knows? maybe there will be Nexus 5 2015 edition hihihi :fingers-crossed:

The Nexus 5 will still be for sale new on Ebay and Amazon among others. It's not going anywhere for a while. You can even still buy a new Nexus One if you wanted. Just because the play store has stopped selling it means nothing.

There will be.

RonnellTapawan said:
who knows? maybe there will be Nexus 5 2015 edition hihihi :fingers-crossed:
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I hope so. 5.5" screen, 4gb ram, and whatever fast 64bit cpu would work for me.

Farewell to NEXUS 5
Nexus 5 is a Limited Edition Phone.....Feeling nice to be a Nexus 5 User....

cesc777 said:
Nexus 5 is a Limited Edition Phone.....Feeling nice to be a Nexus 5 User....
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Limited edition? More like discontinued

Elluel said:
Limited edition? More like discontinued
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Everyone has their own opinions....its mine...."discontinued" feels bit low..

I seriously hope they continue with the 5 inch Nexus series. Nexus has the best development community by far. We get all the new roms and features way before other phones.
I fear developers will jump ship to another brand if the only available Nexus is a 6 inch...

Elluel said:
Limited edition? More like discontinued
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Technically discontinued is right. But I'd assume since the Nexus 5 is better or probably on par with most flagships nearly this long after it's 2013 release, people consider it as like a limited edition phone.. I'm on the fence. While I also feel that technically it is discontinued, I also feel like the value of the Nexus 5 may slightly increase because it's still a great phone for development and it's going to be harder to find, and the Nexus 5 IMHO was probably the best Nexus phone released to date, the Nexus 6 is a phablet and honestly don't know much about it's successor based on it's size I immediately figured it would be the wrong phone for me, plus I've heard the Nexus 6 had it's share of problems like any phone. Nexus 5 had their initial batches which were flawed in design somewhat and they updated the form factor for it.
(very proud to say I have a 32GB launch edition white Nexus 5 btw)

TheLastSidekick said:
Technically discontinued is right. But I'd assume since the Nexus 5 is better or probably on par with most flagships nearly this long after it's 2013 release, people consider it as like a limited edition phone.. I'm on the fence. While I also feel that technically it is discontinued, I also feel like the value of the Nexus 5 may slightly increase because it's still a great phone for development and it's going to be harder to find, and the Nexus 5 IMHO was probably the best Nexus phone released to date, the Nexus 6 is a phablet and honestly don't know much about it's successor based on it's size I immediately figured it would be the wrong phone for me, plus I've heard the Nexus 6 had it's share of problems like any phone. Nexus 5 had their initial batches which were flawed in design somewhat and they updated the form factor for it.
(very proud to say I have a 32GB launch edition white Nexus 5 btw)
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May as well call every discontinued device "limited edition".

You forgot the word special

cesc777 said:
Nexus 5 is a Limited Edition Phone.....Feeling nice to be a Nexus 5 User....
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I own a red Nexus 5. I love it.

any one think the nexus 5X is a downgrade over the nexus 5?

well got me a nexus 5 on swappa for a good deal it well go well with my nexus 9 tablet i am fully neuxs fan any ways dos any one think that the new nexus 5X is more like a downgrade over the nexus 5? any one has a new nexus 5X wish do you per fer nexus 5X or nexus 5 has far has speed gos
the new nexus 5X has a 1.44 snapdragon 808 CPU why the old nexus 5 has a 2.3 800 snapdragon CPU it i saw some youtub video and speed test on the nexus 5 with android 6.01 and it seems the nexus 5 is march faster then on the new nexus 5X so if you haveing to pick wish would you used the new nexus 5X or the old nexus 5?

Snow755 said:
well got me a nexus 5 on swappa for a good deal it well go well with my nexus 9 tablet i am fully neuxs fan any ways dos any one think that the new nexus 5X is more like a downgrade over the nexus 5? any one has a new nexus 5X wish do you per fer nexus 5X or nexus 5 has far has speed gos
the new nexus 5X has a 1.44 snapdragon 808 CPU why the old nexus 5 has a 2.3 800 snapdragon CPU it i saw some youtub video and speed test on the nexus 5 with android 6.01 and it seems the nexus 5 is march faster then on the new nexus 5X so if you haveing to pick wish would you used the new nexus 5X or the old nexus 5?
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I'm not a Nexus 5X user, but from what I can tell, it is not a downgrade.
5X has a better camera, 5X has a better screen, 5X has a fingerprint scanner, 5X will get Android N officially from Google, 5X has a better battery life, 5X has USB Type-C and 5X has better speakers.
It is true though that Nexus 5 should be faster on Apps that do not utilize hexa-core CPUs.

As above, the camera is great, I don't need to take a proper one with me now, low light amazes me
The screen is nice, the n5 was brighter.
the fingerprint scanner is nice and convenient, power button is barely used, security is another subject with fingerprints,
The 5x has one speaker and thats par,
Battery life is great with display on, I guess that's what makes the display drain better than the n5
The nexus5x may take a while with os and kernel improvements to really get the benefits from 6 cores,the 2 big cores help with apps loading, takes little time to reload browser unlike the n5 did
I would say its an upgrade for me, glad I got it,I haven't looked back

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I think N5X is a good device overall (not at European prices though), but is not absolutely better than the original N5: it's less comfortable to hold with one hand, lacks wireless charging and its performances are often lower than the older model because of the disk encryption. What's more, I also find the 3.5mm jack on the lower edge a design flaw.
On the other hand, better camera and fingerprint sensor are welcome additions.
Wrapping up, I think the newer device is not worth buying, as long as the older N5 is supported by Google.
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Snow755 said:
well got me a nexus 5 on swappa for a good deal it well go well with my nexus 9 tablet i am fully neuxs fan any ways dos any one think that the new nexus 5X is more like a downgrade over the nexus 5? any one has a new nexus 5X wish do you per fer nexus 5X or nexus 5 has far has speed gos
the new nexus 5X has a 1.44 snapdragon 808 CPU why the old nexus 5 has a 2.3 800 snapdragon CPU it i saw some youtub video and speed test on the nexus 5 with android 6.01 and it seems the nexus 5 is march faster then on the new nexus 5X so if you haveing to pick wish would you used the new nexus 5X or the old nexus 5?
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Less usable RAM thanks to 64 bit OS. Less user available storage.
Arguably crappier SOC if you are a gamer.
Other than that, its an upgrade.

No OIS, so I think it is a downgrade. The different with and without OIS is really large, especially for indoor.
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akash3656 said:
Less usable RAM thanks to 64 bit OS. Less user available storage.
Arguably crappier SOC if you are a gamer.
Other than that, its an upgrade.
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its true less ram and storage but that didnt put me off, the specs on paper is not great, i could of gotten oneplus 2 but its not just the hardware that counts but the software. whats the point in having a high spec unit if OS optimization is bad (not aimed at oneplus), touchwiz is an example.

DummyPLUG said:
No OIS, so I think it is a downgrade. The different with and without OIS is really large, especially for indoor.
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Yea but it has EIS
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I am not a N5x owner and I bought my N5 only two months ago and I'm really enjoying it but I'm sure 5x is better, only that it is not what you expect to be after two years of tech development.
Nexus 5 had been build with very few compromises while 5x isn't built to be a flasgship and I think who own a N5 shouldn't buy a 5x only because it will not give the same feeling that unboxing a Nexus 5 gave you.
Conversely I suggest to who has never own a N5, but a previous nexus like 4 (I owned it too), to buy it but only at the right price. In Italy, where I actually live and at the moment I'm writing, a Nexus 5x 32GB costs 429€, I don't know if it's too much, you can tell, but the same shop offers a Galaxy S6 32GB at the same price. I like nexus world, just think that I sold a S6 flat to buy a N5 but I had 300 euro in the change and I will have never exchanged with a 5x at par, I'm not crazy, it's just not worth so much or as much as a S6

I was looking at one here in Australia but they are $300 more than I paid for my Nexus 5 and didn't seem like it was worth the extra money.
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I think that the nexus 5x is a good upgrade over the five, And it's a good phone too. But considering the price, I can get better in that segment (I live in India) and I'd practically not buy the 5x.

Exchanging nexus 6 with nexus 5x would be better option ???

Exchanging nexus 6 with nexus 5x would be better option ???

Perfomance wise? I believe it wouldn't be such a good idea, unless you are a lite user, and ready to face possible problems regarding quality and possible bootloop caused by hardware.
If you have decided, please make sure it's official dealer and offers warranty, just in case?

It depends what you want. I prefer to use a 6. 5x will be supported for a year longer.

Minus the camera and fingerprint sensor I think the Nexus 6 is better. It's all personal preference though. Snapdragon 805 > Snapdragon 808 in real world usage IMO. But maybe that was because my Nexus 6 was rooted with a custom kernel vs my friend's stock Moto X Pure Edition.

Noooooooo. You can count on the 5x being unofficially officially dead (see: bootloop issue). The only nexus phones worth anything now are the 6 and 6p, and Google's ending support for the 6 soon, although there will obviously be ROMs for years to come.

Personally everything in the range of 4.7 to 5.2 ~ inches will feel like a downgrade for me. The major thing about the N6 IMO is the screen and the size, those features just make the phone feel higher grade in every aspect. If you don't care about the size you could go with the 5X, it has a 64 bit processor, better android development for that reason, still have 1 year of android updates, but other than that N6 will feel way better.

Here in the Netherlands the price of a N6 is $300 higher than the N5x.
So from the financial point of view - not wise - to change a N6 for a 5x

NLBeev said:
Here in the Netherlands the price of a N6 is $300 higher than the N5x.
So from the financial point of view - not wise - to change a N6 for a 5x
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That's because 5x is garbage...
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BigDig said:
That's because 5x is garbage...
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Any experience? Please share...

Nexus 6 is always a beast, build quality and its screen size... Snapdragon 805 is not a joke. I would not exchange it unless my nexus has any hardware issues... anyways after using a nexus 6 its hard to go ahead with any other ones cos of the feel and experience you will have... I would say...... no! no way a better option.

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Not a personal experience but if you go to their forums or read online you can find out what kind of issues they are having. N6 is the last real Nexus device made by brand name OEM ( Motorola - owned by Google at the time and not Lenovo) unlike the 6p. The 5x was just a budget phone by LG, that lines up right next to their other 50+ budget phones... It just doesn't have personally
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NLBeev said:
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Once again, see bootloop issue. All Nexus 5x phones aside from ones that were fixed by warranty are as good as dead. It's only a matter of time.

Have a look at this and you'll be able to read up on the bootloop issue: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/5x-bootloop-cause-fix-t3476794

BlockOfDynamite said:
....All Nexus 5x phones aside from ones that were fixed by warranty are as good as dead.
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...more happy with my Nexus 6 [emoji1]

Should I upgrade from Nexus 6?

Which phone should one upgrade to from Nexus 6? I'm absolutely in love with this phone since the day I bought it. The gorgeous display and front firing speakers are really lit. I love the multimedia experience this beast provides and that too without even a little lag. I'm currently running Pure Nexus Rom 7.1.2 with it's own custom kernel. Now the thing is that I'm also thinking of upgrading. I have been considering One Plus 3T and LG V20 as my viable options but I'm really confused. Should I upgrade or not? If yes, then to which device, and why? My budget is around $300-350 and I usually go for slightly used phones. Also of important notice is the fact that Android Oreo has been released and it is pretty uncertain that whether Nexus 6 will see any development in this regard.

All major ROMs will support the N6. Also there is at least one out there already on Oreo.
You won't find anything similar to a N6 as a phone in the market. Maybe you can get a first gen pixel XL for that price of a good deal pops up but even then I wouldn't exchange the N6 for a pixel.

This has been discussed here before, you are not the first, sorry for the let down.
These threads have the most discussions / ideas.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/to-t3587000
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/phone-t3499571

skbhere said:
Which phone should one upgrade to from Nexus 6? I'm absolutely in love with this phone since the day I bought it. The gorgeous display and front firing speakers are really lit. I love the multimedia experience this beast provides and that too without even a little lag. I'm currently running Pure Nexus Rom 7.1.2 with it's own custom kernel. Now the thing is that I'm also thinking of upgrading. I have been considering One Plus 3T and LG V20 as my viable options but I'm really confused. Should I upgrade or not? If yes, then to which device, and why? My budget is around $300-350 and I usually go for slightly used phones. Also of important notice is the fact that Android Oreo has been released and it is pretty uncertain that whether Nexus 6 will see any development in this regard.
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skbhere said:
Which phone should one upgrade to from Nexus 6?....
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Thinking yet..... I'll leave Google devices; too expensive. Chinese equivalents like the OnePlus 5 are a lot cheaper.
I've seen the newest One+ and I'm impressed.

skbhere said:
Which phone should one upgrade to from Nexus 6? I'm absolutely in love with this phone since the day I bought it. The gorgeous display and front firing speakers are really lit. I love the multimedia experience this beast provides and that too without even a little lag. I'm currently running Pure Nexus Rom 7.1.2 with it's own custom kernel. Now the thing is that I'm also thinking of upgrading. I have been considering One Plus 3T and LG V20 as my viable options but I'm really confused. Should I upgrade or not? If yes, then to which device, and why? My budget is around $300-350 and I usually go for slightly used phones. Also of important notice is the fact that Android Oreo has been released and it is pretty uncertain that whether Nexus 6 will see any development in this regard.
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Android 8.0 for Nexus 6
https://youtu.be/WT3J8SMX5kY
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